Players gone at penn state

THISGUY POSTS

ok, whats your point? this isnt a marketing thread or one on research. am i not allowed to talk football because i believe penn state is and should be education first? no penn state fans should be able to talk football if they feel education is more important than football

AND THE ROLLING LAUGHING GUY.

IS THAT YOU ROLLING AROUND GOING CRAZY BECAUSE YOU LOST COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR A DECADE MAYBE FOREVER??

How much would you bet if you could fade Penn state winning a national championship in the next 20 years, and how much $$$ would you risk??

If i didnt hate futures;

id lay 1,000$ at 3 to 1 that penn state is winless in N.C. Games!!

"I think it's about the image, the whole package of what Penn State football and Penn State became," Triponey told USA TODAY Sports. "Penn State became where it was too big to fail. It wasn't just that we can't have bad press. It was we have to protect this image that we're perfect that we're the 'Grand Experiment.' "

In another instance, Triponey said Spanier told her, "You can't expect to change the culture" and that in "40 years he never saw anybody stand up to Joe Paterno."

i dont understand how the culture and football first mentality is not a football issue...Nobody stood up to JOEPA!

Thisguy i guess im ready for you to be at stage 5 and your still at stage 1 of grief ..sorry!!

1. Denial

This is probably the longest stage of grief and the first to pop up. Usually a story breaks with damning evidence that a school or a coach committed serious violations. More often than not, it's a story from my former colleagues at Yahoo! Sports and college football angels of death, Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel. All the stories from them and others are meticulously reported, fact-checked, run through several layers of lawyers and solid enough to run that many are willing to risk their journalistic reputations on it. Bottom line is they've got your program in some very hot water and, more often than not, it means a few members of the NCAA enforcement staff will be on campus within 48-72 hours.

Typical responses from fans: "This isn't happening." "It's not true." "We were not doing this." "We're clean." "So what?" And in some parts of the country, "Nuh-uh."

What it means: There is always the initial shock and in the age of the Internet, often time to prepare for a news story to come out. Almost immediately, fans will lose any connection to reality and like a turtle crawling into its shell, will retreat to the safety of denial. Facts, witness statements and records are not evidence against your program, but rather fabrications. Fans typically put on their (insert bowl here) T-shirt and head to the game room to watch highlights of the pummeling of an opposing team. Usually this lasts until the NCAA delivers a formal Notice of Inquiry or it becomes clear there will be one shortly.

Perhaps the best stage to observe from afar, this is where fan bases turn on the media. With the rise of blogs, it has been fascinating to see fans pick apart stories line-by-line in the hope of finding mistakes, figuring out bias on behalf of the writers or even accusing a rival school of being behind it all. The absolute best is when the local media starts to dig into a school and then they get thrown into the lot of organizations who are only coming after a school because they were successful. Typical responses from fans: "They're out to get us." "It's not fair!" "It's all the media's fault!" And "This can't happen to us." What it means: Though there is a little bit of denial, fans have at least moved on and recognized that their program probably did something wrong (but it's nothing like what the media has described). As a wise, green Star Wars character once said, "Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Such is the case when a school commits a major NCAA infraction. Terrelle Pryor's final game will not be recalled for OSU's victory.(US Presswire) While the diehards and last holdouts will do what they can to skip this stage, most rational fans will move onto the bargaining stage with some regret. This typically is the "beg for forgiveness stage" and where people try and talk themselves into anything that can starve off severe NCAA sanctions.   What it means: This is when universities and their fans buy into the fact that they've been caught but now they're reformed and will never cheat again. This is when you hear school presidents trumpet the fact that they're adding several compliance officers and that they're changing their practices. Sometimes there's self-sanctions in the form of a few scholarships lost or the head coach starts collecting unemployment benefits. What it all comes down to is the chance to keep playing at a high level in exchange for getting off light for their infractions by saying they've changed.   Years after leaving, Lane Kiffin remains a whipping boy in Knoxville.(US Presswire) This is usually when a school has had its COI hearing and the long, drawn-out, agonizing wait for a ruling begins. Fans tend to realize that they'll receive some sort of sanctions that will very likely hurt the program for the next couple of years. The really tough part about getting through this stage comes from the ridicule fans take from rivals and from the media speculating on what kind of penalties the school will receive. Fans understand that it's coming, but that doesn't make it any easier to take. Typical responses from fans: "Why bother?" "Who cares?" And "I'm still a diehard fan no matter what." What it means: Fans realize that their program will be set back and that wins -- at least for a while -- will be much harder to come by. There's a bit of a separation between the program and the pride fans once had for it. Some fair-weather fans will likely move to pro sports (if they're not locked out). The passion some once had for a team is simply no longer there despite all of the good memories.   It hasn't been all roses for Reggie Bush and USC since his departure.(US Presswire) This is the toughest stage to move into and rightfully so. It's just plain hard to accept the facts and accept the punishment that has been doled out. It stinks. But once the process has run its course, there's just not much a school can do about it. With the infractions appeals process limited in scope and success, acceptance is happening sooner rather than later for many college football followers. Typical responses from fans: "Don't worry." "We'll be fine." "It will be OK." And "Can't wait until next year." 0 Thisguy i guess im ready for you to be at stage 5 and your still at stage 1 of grief ..sorry!! 1. Denial This is probably the longest stage of grief and the first to pop up. Usually a story breaks with damning evidence that a school or a coach committed serious violations. More often than not, it's a story from my former colleagues at Yahoo! Sports and college football angels of death, Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel. All the stories from them and others are meticulously reported, fact-checked, run through several layers of lawyers and solid enough to run that many are willing to risk their journalistic reputations on it. Bottom line is they've got your program in some very hot water and, more often than not, it means a few members of the NCAA enforcement staff will be on campus within 48-72 hours. Typical responses from fans: "This isn't happening." "It's not true." "We were not doing this." "We're clean." "So what?" And in some parts of the country, "Nuh-uh." What it means: There is always the initial shock and in the age of the Internet, often time to prepare for a news story to come out. Almost immediately, fans will lose any connection to reality and like a turtle crawling into its shell, will retreat to the safety of denial. Facts, witness statements and records are not evidence against your program, but rather fabrications. Fans typically put on their (insert bowl here) T-shirt and head to the game room to watch highlights of the pummeling of an opposing team. Usually this lasts until the NCAA delivers a formal Notice of Inquiry or it becomes clear there will be one shortly.   Cam Newton brought titles, glory and NCAA scrutiny to Auburn.(US Presswire) Perhaps the best stage to observe from afar, this is where fan bases turn on the media. With the rise of blogs, it has been fascinating to see fans pick apart stories line-by-line in the hope of finding mistakes, figuring out bias on behalf of the writers or even accusing a rival school of being behind it all. The absolute best is when the local media starts to dig into a school and then they get thrown into the lot of organizations who are only coming after a school because they were successful. Typical responses from fans: "They're out to get us." "It's not fair!" "It's all the media's fault!" And "This can't happen to us." What it means: Though there is a little bit of denial, fans have at least moved on and recognized that their program probably did something wrong (but it's nothing like what the media has described). As a wise, green Star Wars character once said, "Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Such is the case when a school commits a major NCAA infraction. Terrelle Pryor's final game will not be recalled for OSU's victory.(US Presswire) While the diehards and last holdouts will do what they can to skip this stage, most rational fans will move onto the bargaining stage with some regret. This typically is the "beg for forgiveness stage" and where people try and talk themselves into anything that can starve off severe NCAA sanctions.   What it means: This is when universities and their fans buy into the fact that they've been caught but now they're reformed and will never cheat again. This is when you hear school presidents trumpet the fact that they're adding several compliance officers and that they're changing their practices. Sometimes there's self-sanctions in the form of a few scholarships lost or the head coach starts collecting unemployment benefits. What it all comes down to is the chance to keep playing at a high level in exchange for getting off light for their infractions by saying they've changed.   Years after leaving, Lane Kiffin remains a whipping boy in Knoxville.(US Presswire) This is usually when a school has had its COI hearing and the long, drawn-out, agonizing wait for a ruling begins. Fans tend to realize that they'll receive some sort of sanctions that will very likely hurt the program for the next couple of years. The really tough part about getting through this stage comes from the ridicule fans take from rivals and from the media speculating on what kind of penalties the school will receive. Fans understand that it's coming, but that doesn't make it any easier to take. Typical responses from fans: "Why bother?" "Who cares?" And "I'm still a diehard fan no matter what." What it means: Fans realize that their program will be set back and that wins -- at least for a while -- will be much harder to come by. There's a bit of a separation between the program and the pride fans once had for it. Some fair-weather fans will likely move to pro sports (if they're not locked out). The passion some once had for a team is simply no longer there despite all of the good memories.   It hasn't been all roses for Reggie Bush and USC since his departure.(US Presswire) This is the toughest stage to move into and rightfully so. It's just plain hard to accept the facts and accept the punishment that has been doled out. It stinks. But once the process has run its course, there's just not much a school can do about it. With the infractions appeals process limited in scope and success, acceptance is happening sooner rather than later for many college football followers. Typical responses from fans: "Don't worry." "We'll be fine." "It will be OK." And "Can't wait until next year."   Capper007 Banned Joined: Sep, 2010 Posts: 6909 Posted: Aug. 6, 2012 - 4:04 PM ET #88 Acceptance This is the toughest stage to move into and rightfully so. It's just plain hard to accept the facts and accept the punishment that has been doled out. It stinks. But once the process has run its course, there's just not much a school can do about it. With the infractions appeals process limited in scope and success, acceptance is happening sooner rather than later for many college football followers. 0 Acceptance This is the toughest stage to move into and rightfully so. It's just plain hard to accept the facts and accept the punishment that has been doled out. It stinks. But once the process has run its course, there's just not much a school can do about it. With the infractions appeals process limited in scope and success, acceptance is happening sooner rather than later for many college football followers.   Capper007 Banned Joined: Sep, 2010 Posts: 6909 Posted: Aug. 6, 2012 - 4:07 PM ET #89 4theloveofarguementsays anyway, why do you care so much??????????? no one gives a shit its about winning, all you are doing is whining like a bitch! why is saying they suck and were and are wrong is whining and im a bitch?? 0 4theloveofarguementsays anyway, why do you care so much??????????? no one gives a shit its about winning, all you are doing is whining like a bitch! why is saying they suck and were and are wrong is whining and im a bitch??   Capper007 Banned Joined: Sep, 2010 Posts: 6909 Posted: Aug. 6, 2012 - 4:08 PM ET #90 sticks and stones 4theloveofurmomfucksmydick 0 sticks and stones 4theloveofurmomfucksmydick   Capper007 Banned Joined: Sep, 2010 Posts: 6909 Posted: Aug. 6, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #91 As if peolpe cant share the same opinions 4theluv??  i can assure you i would never create a new alias to argue with idiots on a fan based "sports" betting forum. why are you still reading the posts and threads about penn state if you "dont care" about it?? 0 As if peolpe cant share the same opinions 4theluv??  i can assure you i would never create a new alias to argue with idiots on a fan based "sports" betting forum. why are you still reading the posts and threads about penn state if you "dont care" about it??   Capper007 Banned Joined: Sep, 2010 Posts: 6909 Posted: Aug. 7, 2012 - 4:30 AM ET #92 As if peolpe cant share the same opinions 4theluv?? i can assure you i would never create a new alias to argue with idiots on a fan based "sports" betting forum. why are you still reading the posts and threads about penn state if you "dont care" about it?? 0 As if peolpe cant share the same opinions 4theluv?? i can assure you i would never create a new alias to argue with idiots on a fan based "sports" betting forum. why are you still reading the posts and threads about penn state if you "dont care" about it??   BamaPiks Prospect Joined: May, 2012 Posts: 461 Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 12:04 AM ET #93 @4theloveofmoney Respectfully, I am not an alias to Capper. I just wanted to clear that up. I am a bama homer living in North Alabama with a single account. BOL to you as the season nears! 0 @4theloveofmoney Respectfully, I am not an alias to Capper. I just wanted to clear that up. I am a bama homer living in North Alabama with a single account. BOL to you as the season nears!     warcameagle56 Captain Joined: Dec, 2011 Posts: 5418 Posted: Aug. 8, 2012 - 2:34 AM ET #94 It  made me sick to hear Silas Red say it was a BUSINESS DECISION to go to UsC..like he could care less about Penn ST...WATCH AND see all the pennST former players will get sanctions reduced..60 mill,no bowling for 4 yrs,players able to haul ass.I feel for the victims,but I dont think the parents families did enuff.If I found Sandusky raped my kid I would be blowing the whistle until somebody was fired.Wearing a caring stripe on Penn State s helmet is stupid.Is that gonna help the avictims foget the nasty molestions? FCK NO..give him 60 MILL,fire mf that didn t report it and play ball.This is TOTAL BS..Jerry will never see a free day,Paterno lost statue and all time wins that um only took him half a century not to mention him dieing w a broken heart and his family being humiliated.Ppl act like Paterno  molested those kids..Its just absurd and because of a few dumbasses making bad decisions.If this was Auburn Id have about a 1000 mf s down their protesting for days and it would be devastating.the care stickers like that is gonna erase what the 2nd mile monster Sanduky did.They ought to let Mr LongDong tear SANDUSKYS ass once before dinner 3 times per victim he had..lol 0 It  made me sick to hear Silas Red say it was a BUSINESS DECISION to go to UsC..like he could care less about Penn ST...WATCH AND see all the pennST former players will get sanctions reduced..60 mill,no bowling for 4 yrs,players able to haul ass.I feel for the victims,but I dont think the parents families did enuff.If I found Sandusky raped my kid I would be blowing the whistle until somebody was fired.Wearing a caring stripe on Penn State s helmet is stupid.Is that gonna help the avictims foget the nasty molestions? FCK NO..give him 60 MILL,fire mf that didn t report it and play ball.This is TOTAL BS..Jerry will never see a free day,Paterno lost statue and all time wins that um only took him half a century not to mention him dieing w a broken heart and his family being humiliated.Ppl act like Paterno  molested those kids..Its just absurd and because of a few dumbasses making bad decisions.If this was Auburn Id have about a 1000 mf s down their protesting for days and it would be devastating.the care stickers like that is gonna erase what the 2nd mile monster Sanduky did.They ought to let Mr LongDong tear SANDUSKYS ass once before dinner 3 times per victim he had..lol All Forums | College Football «First Previous 1234 Hot Forum Topics 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 230,752 Tuesday 06/09/2026 476 Congrats to ltdsks - 20 wins in a row! 4,089 Streak Survivor Winner List 20,892 Den Bosch 1,571 IT'S NBA PLAYOFF TIME ..................2026 25,512 Tuesday 2,123 PART DEUX 164 If It Ain’t Broke 1,462 Thoughts That Come To You 2,206 × Warning - External Link Yes, I want to proceed Cancel × Report User Thank you for reporting This content is abusive or harmful This post is spam An error has occurred Submit Cancel This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. × Delete Post Are you sure you would like to remove this post? 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