He announced it to the team at the team banquet so when ever that is. I don't know the date. But I do know the Sugar Bowl was like a week into January.
I guess he could have stayed and coached the team in the game but how much effort would he have put into actually coaching the team and preparing them for the game as oppose to getting ready for the Notre Dame job?
If you were playing on that team would you want a coach that is giving it 100% or has one foot out the door?
I would want the coach to at least finish the season. You get paid to finish the season and its inexcusable to leave them in the cold like that. I know you can agree with me on a moral basis. And if rules and regulations "should" be based on what is right then no coach should be allowed to leave his team before the biggest game in that schools program.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
He announced it to the team at the team banquet so when ever that is. I don't know the date. But I do know the Sugar Bowl was like a week into January.
I guess he could have stayed and coached the team in the game but how much effort would he have put into actually coaching the team and preparing them for the game as oppose to getting ready for the Notre Dame job?
If you were playing on that team would you want a coach that is giving it 100% or has one foot out the door?
I would want the coach to at least finish the season. You get paid to finish the season and its inexcusable to leave them in the cold like that. I know you can agree with me on a moral basis. And if rules and regulations "should" be based on what is right then no coach should be allowed to leave his team before the biggest game in that schools program.
I would want the coach to at least finish the season. You get paid to finish the season and its inexcusable to leave them in the cold like that. I know you can agree with me on a moral basis. And if rules and regulations "should" be based on what is right then no coach should be allowed to leave his team before the biggest game in that schools program.
Morally I absolutely agree with you. It's a poor message to send to kids that you recruit or inherit about finishing what you start. I do feel bad for the kids. Especially the ones that were freshman or sophomores that Kelly recruited and then bolted on. That really does suck.
However, it is a part of the beast that is Division 1 football. It comes with the territory when you agree to accept that scholarship. You have to take the bad with the good.
I do remember the reaction of the Cincy players as well. I remember several of them walked out of the team banquet when Kelly announced it. I did feel bad for them.
But at that point I also wasn't surprised that Kelly did it. It's been his history all along the way. He started at Grand Valley State University(Div 2 school in West Michigan) and led them to a Div 2 title then took the Central Michigan job. Won the MAC at CMU and capitalized on that opportunity. I was actually shocked he didn't take the Tennessee job after his first year at Cincy(I believe it was his first year). He has been using these schools as stepping stones the whole way.
Schools protect themselves with buyout clauses in the contract so I don't necessarily feel bad for the institutions.
I guess one way to parallel this into our world would be for me to ask you this. If I was an employer that was willing to double your salary tomorrow but you had to quit immediately, no notice at all. Would you do it?
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Quote Originally Posted by HugoBossNYC:
I would want the coach to at least finish the season. You get paid to finish the season and its inexcusable to leave them in the cold like that. I know you can agree with me on a moral basis. And if rules and regulations "should" be based on what is right then no coach should be allowed to leave his team before the biggest game in that schools program.
Morally I absolutely agree with you. It's a poor message to send to kids that you recruit or inherit about finishing what you start. I do feel bad for the kids. Especially the ones that were freshman or sophomores that Kelly recruited and then bolted on. That really does suck.
However, it is a part of the beast that is Division 1 football. It comes with the territory when you agree to accept that scholarship. You have to take the bad with the good.
I do remember the reaction of the Cincy players as well. I remember several of them walked out of the team banquet when Kelly announced it. I did feel bad for them.
But at that point I also wasn't surprised that Kelly did it. It's been his history all along the way. He started at Grand Valley State University(Div 2 school in West Michigan) and led them to a Div 2 title then took the Central Michigan job. Won the MAC at CMU and capitalized on that opportunity. I was actually shocked he didn't take the Tennessee job after his first year at Cincy(I believe it was his first year). He has been using these schools as stepping stones the whole way.
Schools protect themselves with buyout clauses in the contract so I don't necessarily feel bad for the institutions.
I guess one way to parallel this into our world would be for me to ask you this. If I was an employer that was willing to double your salary tomorrow but you had to quit immediately, no notice at all. Would you do it?
I guess one way to parallel this into our world would be for me to ask you this. If I was an employer that was willing to double your salary tomorrow but you had to quit immediately, no notice at all. Would you do it?
You cant compare the two because no job in the "real world" would require you to leave on the spot. I work in finance in NYC and ppl leave for better opportunities all the time, but if they leave, a 2 weeks notice is standard. Its one fucking week for crying out loud!!! Asshole kelly and notre dame can wait a fucking week.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
I guess one way to parallel this into our world would be for me to ask you this. If I was an employer that was willing to double your salary tomorrow but you had to quit immediately, no notice at all. Would you do it?
You cant compare the two because no job in the "real world" would require you to leave on the spot. I work in finance in NYC and ppl leave for better opportunities all the time, but if they leave, a 2 weeks notice is standard. Its one fucking week for crying out loud!!! Asshole kelly and notre dame can wait a fucking week.
You cant compare the two because no job in the "real world" would require you to leave on the spot. I work in finance in NYC and ppl leave for better opportunities all the time, but if they leave, a 2 weeks notice is standard. Its one fucking week for crying out loud!!! Asshole kelly and notre dame can wait a fucking week.
Sorry for trying to find a parallel. What was I thinking trying to create a discussion?
OK according to his wiki page Kelly accepted the N.D. job on Dec 10th and his team played in the Sugar Bowl on Jan 1st.
So he didn't wait 3 weeks for the record. Case closed.
Morally I agree it's wrong. Realistically that is 3 weeks he loses to his new team by half assed coaching his old team.
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Quote Originally Posted by HugoBossNYC:
You cant compare the two because no job in the "real world" would require you to leave on the spot. I work in finance in NYC and ppl leave for better opportunities all the time, but if they leave, a 2 weeks notice is standard. Its one fucking week for crying out loud!!! Asshole kelly and notre dame can wait a fucking week.
Sorry for trying to find a parallel. What was I thinking trying to create a discussion?
OK according to his wiki page Kelly accepted the N.D. job on Dec 10th and his team played in the Sugar Bowl on Jan 1st.
So he didn't wait 3 weeks for the record. Case closed.
Morally I agree it's wrong. Realistically that is 3 weeks he loses to his new team by half assed coaching his old team.
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