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    Ohio State does not deserve to be in the top 4. Not even close.

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:06 AM ET #1

    Baylor deserves it more than OSU.  Oregon will win the national championship this year.
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    Baylor deserves it more than OSU.  Oregon will win the national championship this year.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:12 AM ET #2

    Coming from you means they are a lock to be in the Playoff
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    Coming from you means they are a lock to be in the Playoff
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:20 AM ET #3

    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.
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    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:24 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo:

    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.

    We'll find out in 12 hours 
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    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.

    We'll find out in 12 hours 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:29 AM ET #5

    Wow you are stupid. Clearly if you evaluate the entire resume, Ohio State has an argument to be in the top 4. I actually would think about voting them 5 still, but it is so close that you are clearly biased to state what you have here.

     

    59-0 in a  championship game against a good team. 12-1 total in a power 5 conference. That standard "eye test" stuff that everyone talks about. All that works in the Buckeyes' favor.

    Having said that, their loss was the worst of the top 6. So I can see how they get locked out. But is waaaaay closer than you think.

     

    I think the top 4 stay the same.

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    Wow you are stupid. Clearly if you evaluate the entire resume, Ohio State has an argument to be in the top 4. I actually would think about voting them 5 still, but it is so close that you are clearly biased to state what you have here.

     

    59-0 in a  championship game against a good team. 12-1 total in a power 5 conference. That standard "eye test" stuff that everyone talks about. All that works in the Buckeyes' favor.

    Having said that, their loss was the worst of the top 6. So I can see how they get locked out. But is waaaaay closer than you think.

     

    I think the top 4 stay the same.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:32 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Wow you are stupid. Clearly if you evaluate the entire resume, Ohio State has an argument to be in the top 4. I actually would think about voting them 5 still, but it is so close that you are clearly biased to state what you have here.

     

    59-0 in a  championship game against a good team. 12-1 total in a power 5 conference. That standard "eye test" stuff that everyone talks about. All that works in the Buckeyes' favor.

    Having said that, their loss was the worst of the top 6. So I can see how they get locked out. But is waaaaay closer than you think.

     

    I think the top 4 stay the same.

    It is the worst loss (to VTech) but it's also the most forgivable.  They had a new QB....look how he turned out at the end of the year.   New O-Line....look at how that turned out.    It's still a black eye on their resume, but from that point on they were incredible.   They also beat MSU in East Lansing and destroyed Wisconsin on a neutral field.    Tonights game may be the most impressive win by any team all year.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Wow you are stupid. Clearly if you evaluate the entire resume, Ohio State has an argument to be in the top 4. I actually would think about voting them 5 still, but it is so close that you are clearly biased to state what you have here.

     

    59-0 in a  championship game against a good team. 12-1 total in a power 5 conference. That standard "eye test" stuff that everyone talks about. All that works in the Buckeyes' favor.

    Having said that, their loss was the worst of the top 6. So I can see how they get locked out. But is waaaaay closer than you think.

     

    I think the top 4 stay the same.

    It is the worst loss (to VTech) but it's also the most forgivable.  They had a new QB....look how he turned out at the end of the year.   New O-Line....look at how that turned out.    It's still a black eye on their resume, but from that point on they were incredible.   They also beat MSU in East Lansing and destroyed Wisconsin on a neutral field.    Tonights game may be the most impressive win by any team all year.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:32 AM ET #7

    Think about it this way. If the Big 12 commissioner doesn't even think his teams are better, then how can the committee think they're better

     

    The commissioner has no idea which team is champion of their own little conference.

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    Think about it this way. If the Big 12 commissioner doesn't even think his teams are better, then how can the committee think they're better

     

    The commissioner has no idea which team is champion of their own little conference.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:33 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    It is the worst loss (to VTech) but it's also the most forgivable.  They had a new QB....look how he turned out at the end of the year.   New O-Line....look at how that turned out.    It's still a black eye on their resume, but from that point on they were incredible.   They also beat MSU in East Lansing and destroyed Wisconsin on a neutral field.    Tonights game may be the most impressive win by any team all year.  

     I do agree with you on those points. Hence my original statement as to how close this is

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    It is the worst loss (to VTech) but it's also the most forgivable.  They had a new QB....look how he turned out at the end of the year.   New O-Line....look at how that turned out.    It's still a black eye on their resume, but from that point on they were incredible.   They also beat MSU in East Lansing and destroyed Wisconsin on a neutral field.    Tonights game may be the most impressive win by any team all year.  

     I do agree with you on those points. Hence my original statement as to how close this is

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:35 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo:

    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.

    Feeling stupid and being stupid are very different. You are in my opinion stupid and that my friend is hard to overcome!! Your TV must have been broken tonight and you didn't watch the biggest azz whipping of the YEAR IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!! I hope that OSU doesn't make it in the playoff and feel sorry for the team that has to play them.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo:

    So when they are not in, you are going to feel stupid.

    Feeling stupid and being stupid are very different. You are in my opinion stupid and that my friend is hard to overcome!! Your TV must have been broken tonight and you didn't watch the biggest azz whipping of the YEAR IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!! I hope that OSU doesn't make it in the playoff and feel sorry for the team that has to play them.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

     I do agree with you on those points. Hence my original statement as to how close this is


    I'm a Buckeye fan and want them in....  I just don't see how the committee can take TCU from #3 to out of it altogether and replace them with OSU.   I HOPE it happens, but if they want to start this thing on the right foot, I don't know if they will.  

    Why couldn't FSU just lose and then the only argument would be TCU or Baylor?  
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     I do agree with you on those points. Hence my original statement as to how close this is


    I'm a Buckeye fan and want them in....  I just don't see how the committee can take TCU from #3 to out of it altogether and replace them with OSU.   I HOPE it happens, but if they want to start this thing on the right foot, I don't know if they will.  

    Why couldn't FSU just lose and then the only argument would be TCU or Baylor?  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by middleman820:


    Feeling stupid and being stupid are very different. You are in my opinion stupid and that my friend is hard to overcome!! Your TV must have been broken tonight and you didn't watch the biggest azz whipping of the YEAR IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!! I hope that OSU doesn't make it in the playoff and feel sorry for the team that has to play them.  

    You have to realize the OP claimed to put $25,000 on Iowa State 2nd half, so he's not all there
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    Feeling stupid and being stupid are very different. You are in my opinion stupid and that my friend is hard to overcome!! Your TV must have been broken tonight and you didn't watch the biggest azz whipping of the YEAR IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!! I hope that OSU doesn't make it in the playoff and feel sorry for the team that has to play them.  

    You have to realize the OP claimed to put $25,000 on Iowa State 2nd half, so he's not all there
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:46 AM ET #12

    They lost to Virginia Tech clowns.  I know you all are Ohio fans but they have no chance at all.
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    They lost to Virginia Tech clowns.  I know you all are Ohio fans but they have no chance at all.
     
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    I will be glad when we go to an 8 team playoff and we can all argue about who the 9th team is. At least then you will be talking about 2 loss teams that don't really deserve it anyway!
    Gamble for entertainment, invest for wealth!
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    I will be glad when we go to an 8 team playoff and we can all argue about who the 9th team is. At least then you will be talking about 2 loss teams that don't really deserve it anyway!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 12:57 AM ET #14

    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCU

    And for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fan

    They would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D 
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    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCU

    And for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fan

    They would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D 
     
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    Oregon might win the toilet bowl wait til Alabama or tcu get a hold of this finesse team they will get destroyed Oregon is a joke just like Florida st acc and PAC 12 pathetic conferences
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    Oregon might win the toilet bowl wait til Alabama or tcu get a hold of this finesse team they will get destroyed Oregon is a joke just like Florida st acc and PAC 12 pathetic conferences
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 1:19 AM ET #16

    Ohio St. Would get totally demolished by Bama, so it really doesn't matter!!!
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    Ohio St. Would get totally demolished by Bama, so it really doesn't matter!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphan:

    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCUAnd for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fanThey would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D


    Hahaha

    You mean like they did to penn st, va tech, Indiana or Michigan for 3 qtrs?

    I like Ohio st & they are good but their defense isn't that good, look at the stats

    Baylor & TCU both would score at least 30 on that defense, at least

    Could Ohio st beat them? Yes, but they could both also beat Ohio st, lots of variables would come into play

    To say the bucks would beat the brakes off them is flat out wrong (at best)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphan:

    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCUAnd for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fanThey would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D


    Hahaha

    You mean like they did to penn st, va tech, Indiana or Michigan for 3 qtrs?

    I like Ohio st & they are good but their defense isn't that good, look at the stats

    Baylor & TCU both would score at least 30 on that defense, at least

    Could Ohio st beat them? Yes, but they could both also beat Ohio st, lots of variables would come into play

    To say the bucks would beat the brakes off them is flat out wrong (at best)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 1:58 AM ET #18

    Is Ohio State better than GT?  How impressive has FSU been this year?  What would FSU's record be in the SEC?    Didn't Baylor beat TCU, but lose to West Virginia?  Who are the top 4 teams in college football right now (with one loss or less)?  For me the championship has already been determined....Alabama survived the SEC.  Put together a big 12 championship and reapply next near.


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    Is Ohio State better than GT?  How impressive has FSU been this year?  What would FSU's record be in the SEC?    Didn't Baylor beat TCU, but lose to West Virginia?  Who are the top 4 teams in college football right now (with one loss or less)?  For me the championship has already been determined....Alabama survived the SEC.  Put together a big 12 championship and reapply next near.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 2:17 AM ET #19

    AL BAM THE END NNNN CCCCC!!!
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    AL BAM THE END NNNN CCCCC!!!
     
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    I'd really like to see 6 teams, but that couldn't work, because the "Byes" would be based on perception. i.e. this year 1 loss Alabama and 1 loss Oregon would get a bye over undefeated FSU. Unless you put in some clause that undefeated teams get first shot at byes, but that would discourage tougher schedules.

    I'm sure the committee went over all these scenarios when they came up with 4, but 6 would really be the best number.

    Champions of the power 5 conferences: SEC, Big 10, Big 12, ACC.

    The 6th team would be the highest ranked team otherwise. This allows a Boise St. to sneak in during a good year, or a 1 loss SEC team to get in if they ran the table and lost in the conference championship. Or a co-conference champion like Baylor/TCU.

    The 4th team this year should be who the committee views has the stronger conference; the Big 10 or Big 12.

    Big 10 characterized by good defenses with pro-style offenses. The big 12 with wide open spread offenses that put up big points.

    Question is do you think Michigan St, Wisconsin, Nebraska are better competition than Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma St., Oklahoma.

    If they really have some logical explanation of Strength of Schedule between the 3, I would just go with that to choose #4.

    I believe if the committee has chosen TCU before today, TCU will keep their spot. Ohio St and FSU both beat ranked teams, so they could possibly move up.

     

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    I'd really like to see 6 teams, but that couldn't work, because the "Byes" would be based on perception. i.e. this year 1 loss Alabama and 1 loss Oregon would get a bye over undefeated FSU. Unless you put in some clause that undefeated teams get first shot at byes, but that would discourage tougher schedules.

    I'm sure the committee went over all these scenarios when they came up with 4, but 6 would really be the best number.

    Champions of the power 5 conferences: SEC, Big 10, Big 12, ACC.

    The 6th team would be the highest ranked team otherwise. This allows a Boise St. to sneak in during a good year, or a 1 loss SEC team to get in if they ran the table and lost in the conference championship. Or a co-conference champion like Baylor/TCU.

    The 4th team this year should be who the committee views has the stronger conference; the Big 10 or Big 12.

    Big 10 characterized by good defenses with pro-style offenses. The big 12 with wide open spread offenses that put up big points.

    Question is do you think Michigan St, Wisconsin, Nebraska are better competition than Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma St., Oklahoma.

    If they really have some logical explanation of Strength of Schedule between the 3, I would just go with that to choose #4.

    I believe if the committee has chosen TCU before today, TCU will keep their spot. Ohio St and FSU both beat ranked teams, so they could possibly move up.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 6:39 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:



    Hahaha

    You mean like they did to penn st, va tech, Indiana or Michigan for 3 qtrs?

    I like Ohio st & they are good but their defense isn't that good, look at the stats

    Baylor & TCU both would score at least 30 on that defense, at least

    Could Ohio st beat them? Yes, but they could both also beat Ohio st, lots of variables would come into play

    To say the bucks would beat the brakes off them is flat out wrong (at best)

     Do you think that OSU would not score 50 + on Baylor or TCU! so the score would be 52-31 DA!!!!!!!!!! Ask Melvin Gordon how he feels today!!!!
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    Hahaha

    You mean like they did to penn st, va tech, Indiana or Michigan for 3 qtrs?

    I like Ohio st & they are good but their defense isn't that good, look at the stats

    Baylor & TCU both would score at least 30 on that defense, at least

    Could Ohio st beat them? Yes, but they could both also beat Ohio st, lots of variables would come into play

    To say the bucks would beat the brakes off them is flat out wrong (at best)

     Do you think that OSU would not score 50 + on Baylor or TCU! so the score would be 52-31 DA!!!!!!!!!! Ask Melvin Gordon how he feels today!!!!
     
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    The thing's a disaster. Just going to be another mythical national title. They should go back to the AP poll determining, it's just as random. 
    I think it'll stay the same top 4 with everyone winning and Ohio State winning so emphatically. I don't think it should be that way but not sure how they can do it any other way without getting lambasted. I don't think it should be that way. I think Ohio State should be the team and I think Baylor is got screwed here cause if Ohio State barely won or lost the committee could have pointed to the head to head and put Baylor in at 4 over TCU and not gotten too much grief from anyone.
    As far as winning it not sure how you go against Alabama at this poing. I understand the Oregon love but who has Oregon always struggled with over the years? Stanford. Cause Stanford played big physical ball on both sides. Think Alabama would do the exact same thing if they played and would actually hope to play Oregon and would win pretty easily. Of course until FSU is actually knocked out these guys are a threat. They sure don't look good but they just won't die; it's amazing the luck/will that team has. 
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    The thing's a disaster. Just going to be another mythical national title. They should go back to the AP poll determining, it's just as random. 
    I think it'll stay the same top 4 with everyone winning and Ohio State winning so emphatically. I don't think it should be that way but not sure how they can do it any other way without getting lambasted. I don't think it should be that way. I think Ohio State should be the team and I think Baylor is got screwed here cause if Ohio State barely won or lost the committee could have pointed to the head to head and put Baylor in at 4 over TCU and not gotten too much grief from anyone.
    As far as winning it not sure how you go against Alabama at this poing. I understand the Oregon love but who has Oregon always struggled with over the years? Stanford. Cause Stanford played big physical ball on both sides. Think Alabama would do the exact same thing if they played and would actually hope to play Oregon and would win pretty easily. Of course until FSU is actually knocked out these guys are a threat. They sure don't look good but they just won't die; it's amazing the luck/will that team has. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Think about it this way. If the Big 12 commissioner doesn't even think his teams are better, then how can the committee think they're better

     

    The commissioner has no idea which team is champion of their own little conference.

    The commish of the big 12 is a god damn idiot the champ is Baylor based on the head to head win over Tcu and he is a moron for not admitting that
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    Think about it this way. If the Big 12 commissioner doesn't even think his teams are better, then how can the committee think they're better

     

    The commissioner has no idea which team is champion of their own little conference.

    The commish of the big 12 is a god damn idiot the champ is Baylor based on the head to head win over Tcu and he is a moron for not admitting that
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphan:

    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCU

    And for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fan

    They would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D 
    LOL OHio st defense has stunk it up all season wisconsin offense is one dimenshional they cant pass worth a crap and have been melvin gordon all season ohio st came in with a game plan to stop gordon and the qb sucks period and by the way the big ten was awful this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphan:

    Ohio st would beat the brakes off Baylor or TCU

    And for the record, I'm not biased in any way. Just a football fan

    They would score at will against either one of them, and THEY can actually play some D 
    LOL OHio st defense has stunk it up all season wisconsin offense is one dimenshional they cant pass worth a crap and have been melvin gordon all season ohio st came in with a game plan to stop gordon and the qb sucks period and by the way the big ten was awful this year
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

    LOL OHio st defense has stunk it up all season wisconsin offense is one dimenshional they cant pass worth a crap and have been melvin gordon all season ohio st came in with a game plan to stop gordon and the qb sucks period and by the way the big ten was awful this year

    Every team planned to stop Gordon.   Only one did.   LSU couldn't.... LSU who nearly beat Alabama.  Gary Anderson stopped Gordon in that game with his play calling.
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    LOL OHio st defense has stunk it up all season wisconsin offense is one dimenshional they cant pass worth a crap and have been melvin gordon all season ohio st came in with a game plan to stop gordon and the qb sucks period and by the way the big ten was awful this year

    Every team planned to stop Gordon.   Only one did.   LSU couldn't.... LSU who nearly beat Alabama.  Gary Anderson stopped Gordon in that game with his play calling.
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