My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
GL Gents!!!
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My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
yes hawaii's d has gotten better, but the schedule is menacing and too much newness on the team and coaching. as far as graunke goes i dont think he is that good of a qb compared to others on the team. although i know rolo personally and i think his coaching will improve graunke. at the same time i also think he was cheating out of his chance when chang was qb. with rolo's experience graunke has a better chance to lead the team.
back to the topic....makes a great point. i think you might be over looking k st's potential based on those early season games....
oh well gl to all
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yes hawaii's d has gotten better, but the schedule is menacing and too much newness on the team and coaching. as far as graunke goes i dont think he is that good of a qb compared to others on the team. although i know rolo personally and i think his coaching will improve graunke. at the same time i also think he was cheating out of his chance when chang was qb. with rolo's experience graunke has a better chance to lead the team.
back to the topic....makes a great point. i think you might be over looking k st's potential based on those early season games....
My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
GL Gents!!!
Hey pal....your the first person that I've seen who has a bit of substance regarding backing the Cards....nice post. You mentioned a lot of detail regarding previous games this year and the early strength of schedule. I've always felt that if you capped current games based on previous weeks performances, it could lead to lost wagers. I'm looking at this as a head to head matchup and what I think might be a key factor is K State's zone blocking against the Cards interior D line. The Cards do not have any returning linebackers so they are relatively green in the middle of their D. With zone blocking, if the LB's don't fill the appropriate holes, K States running game will be successful. Louisville's strength is their rushing D but they haven't had to play against a type of offense that K State will employ. As well, Freeman has shown vast improvement in his passing completions, going 53% his freshman year to 63% last year and 78% so far this year,though his oppents this year have been very soft. Still, he has still been able to gain confidence with his play and I like the fact that he is a threat to hurt the D with his rushing ability. Many other keys to this game exist but regardless, BOL on your plays this week
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Quote Originally Posted by richardtonsj:
My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
GL Gents!!!
Hey pal....your the first person that I've seen who has a bit of substance regarding backing the Cards....nice post. You mentioned a lot of detail regarding previous games this year and the early strength of schedule. I've always felt that if you capped current games based on previous weeks performances, it could lead to lost wagers. I'm looking at this as a head to head matchup and what I think might be a key factor is K State's zone blocking against the Cards interior D line. The Cards do not have any returning linebackers so they are relatively green in the middle of their D. With zone blocking, if the LB's don't fill the appropriate holes, K States running game will be successful. Louisville's strength is their rushing D but they haven't had to play against a type of offense that K State will employ. As well, Freeman has shown vast improvement in his passing completions, going 53% his freshman year to 63% last year and 78% so far this year,though his oppents this year have been very soft. Still, he has still been able to gain confidence with his play and I like the fact that he is a threat to hurt the D with his rushing ability. Many other keys to this game exist but regardless, BOL on your plays this week
My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
GL Gents!!!
i was gonna say somethin for louisville but this guy has already said it better then i could have
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Quote Originally Posted by richardtonsj:
My reason is because we only saw how bad Louisville's offense was on national televised game, we over look a decent Kentucky's D. Also, Louisville's D was very good in the that game. It was the late turnovers by the offense that gave up those late TD's.
Exactly who has K State played this year that makes people want to jump on their bandwagon so much? N. Texas and Montana State. I'm sorry but N. Texas is like one of the worst team in D-1 football. Their D is even worse than SMU as of now. Exactly who has K State beat on the road besides that upset of Texas? Yes they do have an experience QB but against the caliber of this Louisville's D, I honestly don't think he will be that effective passing the ball. Louisville offense looked dismal against Kentucky but that was his first game starting. If I remember correctly, before that Kentucky game, there were many Louisville backers praising how he has the potential to be a NFL QB.
Anyway those are my perspective on this game and why I'm taking the the home dog with pts.
GL Gents!!!
i was gonna say somethin for louisville but this guy has already said it better then i could have
Hehe. Yeah. Ask 1000 UofL fans and 600 will tell you that Louisville will lose.
1) They know what KSU is capable of even though the Wildcats have played D-IAAA cupcakes.
2) They have no faith in Cantwell.
Have to disagree I live here in the VILLE and most have no faith in Coach Kragthorpe we believe in Cantwell. Mel Kiper Jr. had Cantwell picked as the best Junior QB last year. Mel knows his stuff.
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Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:
Hehe. Yeah. Ask 1000 UofL fans and 600 will tell you that Louisville will lose.
1) They know what KSU is capable of even though the Wildcats have played D-IAAA cupcakes.
2) They have no faith in Cantwell.
Have to disagree I live here in the VILLE and most have no faith in Coach Kragthorpe we believe in Cantwell. Mel Kiper Jr. had Cantwell picked as the best Junior QB last year. Mel knows his stuff.
Have to disagree I live here in the VILLE and most have no faith in Coach Kragthorpe we believe in Cantwell. Mel Kiper Jr. had Cantwell picked as the best Junior QB last year. Mel knows his stuff.
What's the word in Louisville for tonight's game and what are your expectations?
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Quote Originally Posted by SCOOPYDEW:
Have to disagree I live here in the VILLE and most have no faith in Coach Kragthorpe we believe in Cantwell. Mel Kiper Jr. had Cantwell picked as the best Junior QB last year. Mel knows his stuff.
What's the word in Louisville for tonight's game and what are your expectations?
I agree that UofL's defense can bet underrated here. They can stop the run but can they stop Freeman and the KSU receiving corp?
Josh Freeman will have to give this game away with mistakes for UofL to win outright. Which is a possibility.
Louisville got there new Defensive Cordinator from Michigan Ron English he stopped the Florida Gators in the Bowl game I dont think he is to worried about K State being to good. Only question is does he have defensive play makers like he did at Michigan. We will know by half time.
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Quote Originally Posted by HappyKane:
I agree that UofL's defense can bet underrated here. They can stop the run but can they stop Freeman and the KSU receiving corp?
Josh Freeman will have to give this game away with mistakes for UofL to win outright. Which is a possibility.
Louisville got there new Defensive Cordinator from Michigan Ron English he stopped the Florida Gators in the Bowl game I dont think he is to worried about K State being to good. Only question is does he have defensive play makers like he did at Michigan. We will know by half time.
Louisville got there new Defensive Cordinator from Michigan Ron English he stopped the Florida Gators in the Bowl game I dont think he is to worried about K State being to good. Only question is does he have defensive play makers like he did at Michigan. We will know by half time.
Ron English SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how many yds in total defense Big Blue has allowed on average in the last three years? He didn't stop Florida....we just scored more points than they did, just like we had to do everytime we lucked out with a win.
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Quote Originally Posted by SCOOPYDEW:
Louisville got there new Defensive Cordinator from Michigan Ron English he stopped the Florida Gators in the Bowl game I dont think he is to worried about K State being to good. Only question is does he have defensive play makers like he did at Michigan. We will know by half time.
Ron English SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how many yds in total defense Big Blue has allowed on average in the last three years? He didn't stop Florida....we just scored more points than they did, just like we had to do everytime we lucked out with a win.
Hey pal....your the first person that I've seen who has a bit of substance regarding backing the Cards....nice post. You mentioned a lot of detail regarding previous games this year and the early strength of schedule. I've always felt that if you capped current games based on previous weeks performances, it could lead to lost wagers. I'm looking at this as a head to head matchup and what I think might be a key factor is K State's zone blocking against the Cards interior D line. The Cards do not have any returning linebackers so they are relatively green in the middle of their D. With zone blocking, if the LB's don't fill the appropriate holes, K States running game will be successful. Louisville's strength is their rushing D but they haven't had to play against a type of offense that K State will employ. As well, Freeman has shown vast improvement in his passing completions, going 53% his freshman year to 63% last year and 78% so far this year,though his oppents this year have been very soft. Still, he has still been able to gain confidence with his play and I like the fact that he is a threat to hurt the D with his rushing ability. Many other keys to this game exist but regardless, BOL on your plays this week
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Quote Originally Posted by amd:
Hey pal....your the first person that I've seen who has a bit of substance regarding backing the Cards....nice post. You mentioned a lot of detail regarding previous games this year and the early strength of schedule. I've always felt that if you capped current games based on previous weeks performances, it could lead to lost wagers. I'm looking at this as a head to head matchup and what I think might be a key factor is K State's zone blocking against the Cards interior D line. The Cards do not have any returning linebackers so they are relatively green in the middle of their D. With zone blocking, if the LB's don't fill the appropriate holes, K States running game will be successful. Louisville's strength is their rushing D but they haven't had to play against a type of offense that K State will employ. As well, Freeman has shown vast improvement in his passing completions, going 53% his freshman year to 63% last year and 78% so far this year,though his oppents this year have been very soft. Still, he has still been able to gain confidence with his play and I like the fact that he is a threat to hurt the D with his rushing ability. Many other keys to this game exist but regardless, BOL on your plays this week
what do you guys think about louisville being -5 on the powerline?
it seems the main rationale for everyone on kst is that they are so good and louisville is terrible, but this number doesnt tell us that.
honestly im not a big fan of powerlines but this is interesting there is such a difference.
What is YOUR gut feeling telling you? After studying all aspects of the game do you have any feedback? It sounds like you want to take the Ville. According to Ville backers, my conclusion is that they're taking them because 1) short line equals "trap" game, 2) K State's weak strength of schedule, 3) K States poor road history combined with road chalk. Are these three reasons among other possibilities enough reason to back the Ville?
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Quote Originally Posted by clowninmyside:
what do you guys think about louisville being -5 on the powerline?
it seems the main rationale for everyone on kst is that they are so good and louisville is terrible, but this number doesnt tell us that.
honestly im not a big fan of powerlines but this is interesting there is such a difference.
What is YOUR gut feeling telling you? After studying all aspects of the game do you have any feedback? It sounds like you want to take the Ville. According to Ville backers, my conclusion is that they're taking them because 1) short line equals "trap" game, 2) K State's weak strength of schedule, 3) K States poor road history combined with road chalk. Are these three reasons among other possibilities enough reason to back the Ville?
Damn, I've read every post on this game, and I'm about to hung the dog and hide in a corner, I'm nervous about this one. The damn line is too low and not budging, just like the Pitt/Cleveland game at -6,and Carolina/Chicago, it's been nothing but dogs in both NCAA and the NFL. I hit nicely monday night with my birds covering the spread, now 2-0 ATS and over 46.5, and my gut feeling is saying K. St but my mind is saying Louisville. Who is the best capper that everyone counts on? I saw somewhere on this website where the two best cappers for the week in NCAAF were 14-3 and 13-5 and they both had Louisville, Colorado and UConn, now I cant find it. Who does everyone count on and trust for opinion?
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Damn, I've read every post on this game, and I'm about to hung the dog and hide in a corner, I'm nervous about this one. The damn line is too low and not budging, just like the Pitt/Cleveland game at -6,and Carolina/Chicago, it's been nothing but dogs in both NCAA and the NFL. I hit nicely monday night with my birds covering the spread, now 2-0 ATS and over 46.5, and my gut feeling is saying K. St but my mind is saying Louisville. Who is the best capper that everyone counts on? I saw somewhere on this website where the two best cappers for the week in NCAAF were 14-3 and 13-5 and they both had Louisville, Colorado and UConn, now I cant find it. Who does everyone count on and trust for opinion?
Damn, I've read every post on this game, and I'm about to hung the dog and hide in a corner, I'm nervous about this one. The damn line is too low and not budging, just like the Pitt/Cleveland game at -6,and Carolina/Chicago, it's been nothing but dogs in both NCAA and the NFL. I hit nicely monday night with my birds covering the spread, now 2-0 ATS and over 46.5, and my gut feeling is saying K. St but my mind is saying Louisville. Who is the best capper that everyone counts on? I saw somewhere on this website where the two best cappers for the week in NCAAF were 14-3 and 13-5 and they both had Louisville, Colorado and UConn, now I cant find it. Who does everyone count on and trust for opinion?
Trust your own opinion with your own research, otherwise stay away from the play if you're unsure.....you'll save yourself a lot of money that way......tailing burns holes in the pockets.
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmie1974:
Damn, I've read every post on this game, and I'm about to hung the dog and hide in a corner, I'm nervous about this one. The damn line is too low and not budging, just like the Pitt/Cleveland game at -6,and Carolina/Chicago, it's been nothing but dogs in both NCAA and the NFL. I hit nicely monday night with my birds covering the spread, now 2-0 ATS and over 46.5, and my gut feeling is saying K. St but my mind is saying Louisville. Who is the best capper that everyone counts on? I saw somewhere on this website where the two best cappers for the week in NCAAF were 14-3 and 13-5 and they both had Louisville, Colorado and UConn, now I cant find it. Who does everyone count on and trust for opinion?
Trust your own opinion with your own research, otherwise stay away from the play if you're unsure.....you'll save yourself a lot of money that way......tailing burns holes in the pockets.
The Dallas line really didn't budge, I was originally for the under in that game but saw the total drop, and went against the public. I also noticed the public on Dallas, but the line dropping to 6.5, and thats what gave me the decision to go with my birds and the over.
When a line doesn't move, it's normally locked in by vegas that they have a strong sense of what kind of game this is going to be. Could it be another shootout like monday night or a poor perforamnce by both teams? I notice every year, what happens in NCAAF that week will follow in the NFL, so far I'm right. 90% of the public was on the saints at +1, I took washington because I felt that they were giving one for a reason, even after a poor performance against the giants. The public could not understand why the saints would be getting 1, obviously they found out when they blew a 25-19 lead late in the fourth. Just my two cents, but this game doesn't make any sense to me.
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The Dallas line really didn't budge, I was originally for the under in that game but saw the total drop, and went against the public. I also noticed the public on Dallas, but the line dropping to 6.5, and thats what gave me the decision to go with my birds and the over.
When a line doesn't move, it's normally locked in by vegas that they have a strong sense of what kind of game this is going to be. Could it be another shootout like monday night or a poor perforamnce by both teams? I notice every year, what happens in NCAAF that week will follow in the NFL, so far I'm right. 90% of the public was on the saints at +1, I took washington because I felt that they were giving one for a reason, even after a poor performance against the giants. The public could not understand why the saints would be getting 1, obviously they found out when they blew a 25-19 lead late in the fourth. Just my two cents, but this game doesn't make any sense to me.
What is YOUR gut feeling telling you? After studying all aspects of the game do you have any feedback? It sounds like you want to take the Ville. According to Ville backers, my conclusion is that they're taking them because 1) short line equals "trap" game, 2) K State's weak strength of schedule, 3) K States poor road history combined with road chalk. Are these three reasons among other possibilities enough reason to back the Ville?
to me that says that kanst is not as good as ppl are thinking and louisville aint as bad. louisvilles defense played a good game against kentucky and looks much improved there offense struggled badly though. what worries me is that 1)kragthorpe is coach and he could have a big influence if this is close at the end 2) big 12 is a much better conference. teams blowing out sorry teams at home the first two games and getting lines based on promise (ARIZONA LAST WEEK) are teams i dont want to be laying road chalk with.
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Quote Originally Posted by amd:
What is YOUR gut feeling telling you? After studying all aspects of the game do you have any feedback? It sounds like you want to take the Ville. According to Ville backers, my conclusion is that they're taking them because 1) short line equals "trap" game, 2) K State's weak strength of schedule, 3) K States poor road history combined with road chalk. Are these three reasons among other possibilities enough reason to back the Ville?
to me that says that kanst is not as good as ppl are thinking and louisville aint as bad. louisvilles defense played a good game against kentucky and looks much improved there offense struggled badly though. what worries me is that 1)kragthorpe is coach and he could have a big influence if this is close at the end 2) big 12 is a much better conference. teams blowing out sorry teams at home the first two games and getting lines based on promise (ARIZONA LAST WEEK) are teams i dont want to be laying road chalk with.
with Kansas St. being 0-5 ATS as road favorites in the past two years and the amount of public favorite here, my final pick is Louisville +4. I strongly believe that vegas knows something here, and the line is low for a specific reason. I wish everyone the BOL !
Louisville +4
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with Kansas St. being 0-5 ATS as road favorites in the past two years and the amount of public favorite here, my final pick is Louisville +4. I strongly believe that vegas knows something here, and the line is low for a specific reason. I wish everyone the BOL !
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