In depth Clemson Notre Dame breakdown

Quote Originally Posted by mws:

Notre Dame is a half-way member of the ACC, with the result that Notre Dame and Clemson had four common opponents (which Clemson was 14 ppg better against). And there is no basis for saying that even a single Clemson game was closer than the score indicates. What are you talking about?

Quote Originally Posted by mws:

Notre Dame is a half-way member of the ACC, with the result that Notre Dame and Clemson had four common opponents (which Clemson was 14 ppg better against). And there is no basis for saying that even a single Clemson game was closer than the score indicates. What are you talking about?

Quote Originally Posted by wareagle18tr:

You're a fanboy. Are you saying, then, that all of their games have been blowouts except for the A&M game which you contend still wasn't in jeopardy?

You made a claim you can't back up. You sais a number of  Clemson games were closer than the score indicated, but you can't name one.  That's my point --- there weren't any.  Meanwhile the A&M game was not as close as the score indicated.  You have some kind of weird bias going on.

Quote Originally Posted by mws:

Re-formatted:You're a fanboy. Are you saying, then, that all of their games have been blowouts except for the A&M game which you contend still wasn't in jeopardy? You made a claim you can't back up. You said a number of  Clemson games were closer than the score indicated, but you can't name one.  That's my point --- there weren't any.  Meanwhile the A&M game was not as close as the score indicated.  Your bias is preventing you from seeing things clearly.

Quote Originally Posted by lajohn:

...MAKE A "PICK" ALREADY!!!This, long-drawn, "OVER-ANALYSIS", is going to flow-into the NEXT YEAR!!!

Quote Originally Posted by alopez14325:

 

I'm not posting this in order to convince ppl to bet one side or the other, the reason it's so long is bc I just wanted to provide the relevant info needed for everybody to make their own predictions...

Quote Originally Posted by wareagle18tr:

  I thought this was bias yesterday when you had only posted a few times and before I knew for sure you were picking Clemson. The ACC has only three teams with eight-plus wins this year. The ACC only has nine teams with a winning record, and besides the three I just referenced, six are only one game above .500. Both teams have played four teams with eight-plus wins with ND obviously having the stronger group of eight-plus win teams. Clemson's group consisted of Georgia Southern and A&M, a game where they escaped with a questionable win. I believe ND is a tad underrated while Clemson is overrated due to the fact they played in such a weak conference (where a number of their games were closer than the score would indicate) and are being given credit for their recent history. You said you thought ND would win only 2 or 3 times out of 10. You may be right. But they're not playing ten times. I think ND is the better team in a winner take-all match up. They definitely cover if they don't win.I also believe ND will beat bama in the NC. Bama has only played one complete team all year: Georgia. A team that's supposed to be as good as bama is (some would say greatest of all time) shouldn't take their first lead of the game with only a minute left in the game. And I think they lose that game had Tua not gotten hurt and forcing bama to play Jalen Hurts. But that's what happens when you've only played two teams that could give you somewhat of a good game, MSU and LSU, only because they had such exceptional defenses.