Sure they could have but they played 2 playoff teams this year and went 0-2 then beat pretty much nobody. A home win vs USC (who since joining the B1G doesn't beat anyone when they head east - L's to Minnesota, Maryland, Illinois, Michigan). They have zero resume to build a case when comparing 2 loss teams.
@maxwagers781
Sure they could have but they played 2 playoff teams this year and went 0-2 then beat pretty much nobody. A home win vs USC (who since joining the B1G doesn't beat anyone when they head east - L's to Minnesota, Maryland, Illinois, Michigan). They have zero resume to build a case when comparing 2 loss teams.
I’ve used sagarin ratings and schedule strength ranks for handicapping for the last 20 or so years and find its objective. He has Notre Dame ranked 3rd and schedule strength 32.
miss 10 sos 39
miami 7 30
Texas tech 5 67
Indiana 2 43
My opinion - the sos argument doesn’t fly and Notre Dame got screwed .
I’ve used sagarin ratings and schedule strength ranks for handicapping for the last 20 or so years and find its objective. He has Notre Dame ranked 3rd and schedule strength 32.
miss 10 sos 39
miami 7 30
Texas tech 5 67
Indiana 2 43
My opinion - the sos argument doesn’t fly and Notre Dame got screwed .
Saban and the scumbags in college media that’s how bama got in
3 loss team should not be in. teams with 2 losses still out there. do they think that a 3 loss team would win the natty lol. bama is guaranteed a 4th loss,
Nuthin but a g thang baby
Quote Originally Posted by Dickey227:
Saban and the scumbags in college media that’s how bama got in
3 loss team should not be in. teams with 2 losses still out there. do they think that a 3 loss team would win the natty lol. bama is guaranteed a 4th loss,
ND and Miami each beat ONE top 25 team (end of season)... and they played each other so collectively they were guaranteed one.
I think basketball gets it right with quadrants............. and yes, I do think teams can get there with non-stout schedules. but don't complain if you have 2 losses.
one comment I saw..... "best teams at end of season"... that is not a criteria whatsoever. they did imply though when they left out FSU
MF got in over ND because the committee applied another non-criteria i.e. that the ACC gets 1 team....... just change the rules next year.... also ACC, and probably the B12, need to change tiebreaker to highest ranked teams
Alabama beat 7 Top 25 teams (end of season)
ND and Miami each beat ONE top 25 team (end of season)... and they played each other so collectively they were guaranteed one.
I think basketball gets it right with quadrants............. and yes, I do think teams can get there with non-stout schedules. but don't complain if you have 2 losses.
one comment I saw..... "best teams at end of season"... that is not a criteria whatsoever. they did imply though when they left out FSU
MF got in over ND because the committee applied another non-criteria i.e. that the ACC gets 1 team....... just change the rules next year.... also ACC, and probably the B12, need to change tiebreaker to highest ranked teams
Sagarin does have ND highly ranked.. I notice that all the time and respect his rankings.
BUT,
if you think about it, why are they ranked so highly?.. basically blowing out vastly inferior competition (meaningless) and soundly beating #20-#45 types (which is more meaningful)
NCAA mid-majors and smaller upstart teams have this problem with the tourney... "how do we get first quadrant wins if we don't play first quadrant teams?"... they lose out to teams that play 12 first quadrant games.......... Alabama in football though has a high rate on "first quadrant games" (football might need more categories)
@TheBuddah
Sagarin does have ND highly ranked.. I notice that all the time and respect his rankings.
BUT,
if you think about it, why are they ranked so highly?.. basically blowing out vastly inferior competition (meaningless) and soundly beating #20-#45 types (which is more meaningful)
NCAA mid-majors and smaller upstart teams have this problem with the tourney... "how do we get first quadrant wins if we don't play first quadrant teams?"... they lose out to teams that play 12 first quadrant games.......... Alabama in football though has a high rate on "first quadrant games" (football might need more categories)