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    College football is so dumb

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #1

    The regular season is SO important but essentially auburn is playing useless games. They are playing like a team that can win it all but they have a loss. So how exactly is every game important? If you lose you are done? So when you lose all of your games are meaningless right? So dumb. Michigan st also. This coming from a fsu fan whos team is in it
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    The regular season is SO important but essentially auburn is playing useless games. They are playing like a team that can win it all but they have a loss. So how exactly is every game important? If you lose you are done? So when you lose all of your games are meaningless right? So dumb. Michigan st also. This coming from a fsu fan whos team is in it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:44 PM ET #2

    Yes the bcs is crap
    But at least it wil be gone and we'll have a 4 team playoff 
    Hopefully that expands in the future 
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    Yes the bcs is crap
    But at least it wil be gone and we'll have a 4 team playoff 
    Hopefully that expands in the future 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:47 PM ET #3

    4 isnt enought. Its a start but 16 sounds better.  Teams come on late in the year in sports all the time
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    4 isnt enought. Its a start but 16 sounds better.  Teams come on late in the year in sports all the time
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:52 PM ET #4

    The money the unviersity gets for a BCS Bowl compared to non BCS Bowl is millions so Auburn victory today was not for nothing. I would also argue a 1 loss SEC Champ would jump an undefeated ohio state and an undefeated baylor due to strength of schedule and SEC record in national title games.

    Personally I want a 20 team college tourney where top 4 seeds get a 2 week bye. Also move all the games with FBS vs FCS schools up a month and make them pre season games so coaches can play backups and third stringers and do not count them in the standings.
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    The money the unviersity gets for a BCS Bowl compared to non BCS Bowl is millions so Auburn victory today was not for nothing. I would also argue a 1 loss SEC Champ would jump an undefeated ohio state and an undefeated baylor due to strength of schedule and SEC record in national title games.

    Personally I want a 20 team college tourney where top 4 seeds get a 2 week bye. Also move all the games with FBS vs FCS schools up a month and make them pre season games so coaches can play backups and third stringers and do not count them in the standings.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 8:03 PM ET #5

    Exactly. Even if you say a 1 loss team jumps a unbeaten ohio st team, well then that makes all of ohio st games meaningless. Baylor, stanford etc. At what point if your ohio st do you just say we are playing meaningless college football. If you are playing a game and cant win a national title, your game is meaningless no matter how exciting. Auburn had a meaningless win for this specific season
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    Exactly. Even if you say a 1 loss team jumps a unbeaten ohio st team, well then that makes all of ohio st games meaningless. Baylor, stanford etc. At what point if your ohio st do you just say we are playing meaningless college football. If you are playing a game and cant win a national title, your game is meaningless no matter how exciting. Auburn had a meaningless win for this specific season
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 1:17 AM ET #6

    Ohio State wins are not meaingless if Florida State and Baylor screw up down the stretch. Last year it was destined K State and Oregon would play in the national title game after Bama loss. Then they both loss the following week making the SEC title game last year a play in game for the national title game.

    Also BCS bowl games make the unviersity a bunch of money. They may not be national title games but they are not meaningless Meaningless is 2 6-6 teams playing in the whogivesacrap bowl in dumpsville usa.

    I would much prefer a 20 team tourney and move all the non conference scrub games to the front of the season and make them pre season games.

    I think within 10 years they will get to at least 8 or 12 teams.
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    Ohio State wins are not meaingless if Florida State and Baylor screw up down the stretch. Last year it was destined K State and Oregon would play in the national title game after Bama loss. Then they both loss the following week making the SEC title game last year a play in game for the national title game.

    Also BCS bowl games make the unviersity a bunch of money. They may not be national title games but they are not meaningless Meaningless is 2 6-6 teams playing in the whogivesacrap bowl in dumpsville usa.

    I would much prefer a 20 team tourney and move all the non conference scrub games to the front of the season and make them pre season games.

    I think within 10 years they will get to at least 8 or 12 teams.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 1:52 AM ET #7

    Only if the national title was their goal.

    I disagree that Mich St. is playing meaningless games.

    If a team like Mich St. fights their way into a BCS bowl, that's a  b a d a s s  year for them. They were never going to play in the national championship game.

    A team like Oregon is playing meaningless football now.

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    Only if the national title was their goal.

    I disagree that Mich St. is playing meaningless games.

    If a team like Mich St. fights their way into a BCS bowl, that's a  b a d a s s  year for them. They were never going to play in the national championship game.

    A team like Oregon is playing meaningless football now.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 1:54 AM ET #8

    I'd be ok with 12 team playoff..If you're not ranked in the top 12, p i s s  off.

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    I'd be ok with 12 team playoff..If you're not ranked in the top 12, p i s s  off.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 8:52 AM ET #9

     So in your mind, even if Auburn beats Alabama and then wins the SEC Championship, they have no shot at the BCS title game?

     First of all let's just put FSU into the NCG as they will be there, that leaves 'Bama, Ohio St., Baylor, Oregon, Auburn and Missouri as their possible opponents (Clemson has no shot at ACC title let alone BCS).

      I don't think that it would be a stretch to say that AU would jump Oregon and Ohio St. even if they both won out. The Tiger's BCS computer ranking is currently .870 compared to OSU's .850 and Oregon's .780 and with final victories against the #1 team and a likely Top 10 team compared to what the other two teams have left to play, that number will only swell. That leaves only 'Bama and Baylor left to jump. How could the BCS not put AU ahead of the 'Tide? Auburn would be 12-1 and SEC Champions with a victory over an 11-1 Alabama team that finished second in the SEC West. Baylor would clearly have to lose at either OK.St., TCU, or against Texas, the Bears will be more than a touchdown favorite against all of them but you never know.

      Will the Auburn Tigers play in the BCS Title game ? Probably not, but I guarantee you that Coach Malzahn and most of Lee County, Alabama think that they can be there. 

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     So in your mind, even if Auburn beats Alabama and then wins the SEC Championship, they have no shot at the BCS title game?

     First of all let's just put FSU into the NCG as they will be there, that leaves 'Bama, Ohio St., Baylor, Oregon, Auburn and Missouri as their possible opponents (Clemson has no shot at ACC title let alone BCS).

      I don't think that it would be a stretch to say that AU would jump Oregon and Ohio St. even if they both won out. The Tiger's BCS computer ranking is currently .870 compared to OSU's .850 and Oregon's .780 and with final victories against the #1 team and a likely Top 10 team compared to what the other two teams have left to play, that number will only swell. That leaves only 'Bama and Baylor left to jump. How could the BCS not put AU ahead of the 'Tide? Auburn would be 12-1 and SEC Champions with a victory over an 11-1 Alabama team that finished second in the SEC West. Baylor would clearly have to lose at either OK.St., TCU, or against Texas, the Bears will be more than a touchdown favorite against all of them but you never know.

      Will the Auburn Tigers play in the BCS Title game ? Probably not, but I guarantee you that Coach Malzahn and most of Lee County, Alabama think that they can be there. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 2:10 PM ET #10

    8 team playoff with the top 8 ranked teams. 1st round week after season is over semi-finals the following week then championship in a New Years Night Bowl game
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    8 team playoff with the top 8 ranked teams. 1st round week after season is over semi-finals the following week then championship in a New Years Night Bowl game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 2:17 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

    Will the Auburn Tigers play in the BCS Title game ? Probably not, but I guarantee you that Coach Malzahn and most of Lee County, Alabama think that they can be there. 


    No. A one-loss BCS AQ will not jump an undefeated BCS AQ.


    That said, the BCS is fking retarded.
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    Will the Auburn Tigers play in the BCS Title game ? Probably not, but I guarantee you that Coach Malzahn and most of Lee County, Alabama think that they can be there. 


    No. A one-loss BCS AQ will not jump an undefeated BCS AQ.


    That said, the BCS is fking retarded.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 9:50 PM ET #12

    If there was a 12 team playoff, the top 4 teams would all be resting players the last 2 weeks.  
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    If there was a 12 team playoff, the top 4 teams would all be resting players the last 2 weeks.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 10:52 PM ET #13

    Playoffs are always going to be flawed. As long as you have the subjective opinions of people impacting the selection process, the first team out always has a gripe against the last team in.

    Fans who gripe about their team not getting into a playoff should look at the 1971 USC or 1974 Maryland basketball teams. Back when they took only 32 teams.
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    Playoffs are always going to be flawed. As long as you have the subjective opinions of people impacting the selection process, the first team out always has a gripe against the last team in.

    Fans who gripe about their team not getting into a playoff should look at the 1971 USC or 1974 Maryland basketball teams. Back when they took only 32 teams.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 11:15 PM ET #14

    With out a bye week: 
    1vs8
    4vs6
    2vs7
    3vs5
    Without a bye week:
    1 and 2 bye
    4vs6
    8vs9
    Winner of 8vs9meets 1
    7vs10
    Winner of 7vs10meets 2
    3vs5

    What's so hard about that...I actually like the bye, but not a 2 week bye w/12 teams...7
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    With out a bye week: 
    1vs8
    4vs6
    2vs7
    3vs5
    Without a bye week:
    1 and 2 bye
    4vs6
    8vs9
    Winner of 8vs9meets 1
    7vs10
    Winner of 7vs10meets 2
    3vs5

    What's so hard about that...I actually like the bye, but not a 2 week bye w/12 teams...7
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 11:21 PM ET #15

    In my book, the point of playing a football game is to win the game, not to take a step toward a championship that will "prove" you're better than a whole lot of teams you didn't play. 
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    In my book, the point of playing a football game is to win the game, not to take a step toward a championship that will "prove" you're better than a whole lot of teams you didn't play. 
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