Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: NOTRE DAME 9.5 +140 .. -170 to go under .. shux .. OKLAHOMA 9.5 +120OK.STATE 8.5 +125TEXAS 8.5 -125TCU 6.5 EVENK-STATE 5.5 -140TEXAS TECH 5.5 -105W.VIRGINIA 5.5 +120KANSAS 2.5 -135OREGON 9.5 -130UCLA 8.5 -135USC 8.5 -190UTAH 8.5 EVEN ARIZONA STATE 7.5 +130WASHINGTON 7.5 -155OREGON 6.5 -140CALIFORNIA 5.5 EVENWASHINGTON STATE 5.5 +140 STANFORD 4.5 +120COLORADO 3.5 +140ARIZONA 2.5 -165 ..I ended up taking Wash St over 5.5, Stanford under 4.5 and Colorado under 3.5. Shaw's teams seem to be getting worse about every year. He can't seem to get the skill players anymore. And the portal is about out of the question for a high academic school like Stanford.
Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: NOTRE DAME 9.5 +140 .. -170 to go under .. shux .. OKLAHOMA 9.5 +120OK.STATE 8.5 +125TEXAS 8.5 -125TCU 6.5 EVENK-STATE 5.5 -140TEXAS TECH 5.5 -105W.VIRGINIA 5.5 +120KANSAS 2.5 -135OREGON 9.5 -130UCLA 8.5 -135USC 8.5 -190UTAH 8.5 EVEN ARIZONA STATE 7.5 +130WASHINGTON 7.5 -155OREGON 6.5 -140CALIFORNIA 5.5 EVENWASHINGTON STATE 5.5 +140 STANFORD 4.5 +120COLORADO 3.5 +140ARIZONA 2.5 -165 ..I ended up taking Wash St over 5.5, Stanford under 4.5 and Colorado under 3.5. Shaw's teams seem to be getting worse about every year. He can't seem to get the skill players anymore. And the portal is about out of the question for a high academic school like Stanford.
No prob bud .. think those were Doc's plays, I'm on Wash St and Colorado though, didn't quite get around to stanford .. the hook on Colorado seems like a real killer for them idk if there's even 3 'could wins' on the menu for them .
TROY SUN BELT CHAMPS 14-1 (BOL)
Picked this up this AM, they moved it down to 12 .. looks like you can grab it 14 at Draftkings .. I wrote up the play on OVER 5.5 RSWs somewhere back in the thread and love that play so not gunna rehash the whole feeling other than agree with Phil's mag putting them as a potential surprise and contender for the division .. gotta get past ULL who naturally projects to at least win the division easily .. but there's alot of uncertainties to be had on that team and we're holding I believe the next 2 best in Troy and S.Bama, both with schedules to win games ...
Probably need the Cajuns to lose conf 2 games for either of our cards to make a hand .. best candidates for that are when they are @Marshall, S.Bama and Troy but otherwise need a freak loss .. Troy does have a pretty tough schedule and esp brutal non-con schedule @Miss, @W.KY, Army which unfortunately could sink us in a tiebreaker situation but conf too is no picnic .. @Appy, Marshall, @S.Bama (Battle for the Belt rivalry), @ULL .. eek .. this is why I held off earlier on the 10-1, waiting for best odds ..
Troy however does have a great chance for massive improvement and strong pieces in place to accomplish that .. don't think its such a long shot they rise up this year to at least clinch the division, any sorta hedge out opportunities will depend greatly on how they do against Appy and Marshall, but the good news is if they make the champ game very likely had to beat one or both of them and louisiana so odds shouldn't be tooooo tooooo long if not maybe looking to be favs ..
No prob bud .. think those were Doc's plays, I'm on Wash St and Colorado though, didn't quite get around to stanford .. the hook on Colorado seems like a real killer for them idk if there's even 3 'could wins' on the menu for them .
TROY SUN BELT CHAMPS 14-1 (BOL)
Picked this up this AM, they moved it down to 12 .. looks like you can grab it 14 at Draftkings .. I wrote up the play on OVER 5.5 RSWs somewhere back in the thread and love that play so not gunna rehash the whole feeling other than agree with Phil's mag putting them as a potential surprise and contender for the division .. gotta get past ULL who naturally projects to at least win the division easily .. but there's alot of uncertainties to be had on that team and we're holding I believe the next 2 best in Troy and S.Bama, both with schedules to win games ...
Probably need the Cajuns to lose conf 2 games for either of our cards to make a hand .. best candidates for that are when they are @Marshall, S.Bama and Troy but otherwise need a freak loss .. Troy does have a pretty tough schedule and esp brutal non-con schedule @Miss, @W.KY, Army which unfortunately could sink us in a tiebreaker situation but conf too is no picnic .. @Appy, Marshall, @S.Bama (Battle for the Belt rivalry), @ULL .. eek .. this is why I held off earlier on the 10-1, waiting for best odds ..
Troy however does have a great chance for massive improvement and strong pieces in place to accomplish that .. don't think its such a long shot they rise up this year to at least clinch the division, any sorta hedge out opportunities will depend greatly on how they do against Appy and Marshall, but the good news is if they make the champ game very likely had to beat one or both of them and louisiana so odds shouldn't be tooooo tooooo long if not maybe looking to be favs ..
Ha thx duck.. yeah think i should be the happy one bud you've been a total sniper on those ... also keep in mind, my strategy was to do the homework I could early and soon as the RSW's dropped try to capture (what I thought would be) best numbers/odds, and do it before Phil and the mags dropped .. Think my Troy RSW was the first one I made after I got the Phil digital mag (btw that came out at least a week before everyone got their hard copy so I'd def recommend it, mag helped me land a couple plays before the zombie horde showed up).... Either way I was using a lot less info than what we have now and there was ton movement in the portal to piece together, unclear who was still eligible, etc .. couldn't get a beat on every team either, had to make a few assumptions what the quality of the opponents was gunna be .. and otherwise pre-summer pickin leaves a long time for my grapes to sour ...
Feel pretty good though, even some I'm sour on like GTech the RSW 3 feels alot better than 3.5 lol .. My favorite play by a mile was Air Force Over 7.5 .. we're def not gunna see that number again .. I think there's an 8 at CZRs still and 8.5's elsewhere .. Keep them on the radar, I woulda gotten around to playing 8.5 eventually because I have em favored in all 12, only Boise by under a TD .. Think most all scenarios end with 9+ wins unless something drastic happens like Daniels gets injured early on, etc .. that could happen w him running so much but the team is all around solid and I don't think 9W's would be dead even with a backup ..
Ha thx duck.. yeah think i should be the happy one bud you've been a total sniper on those ... also keep in mind, my strategy was to do the homework I could early and soon as the RSW's dropped try to capture (what I thought would be) best numbers/odds, and do it before Phil and the mags dropped .. Think my Troy RSW was the first one I made after I got the Phil digital mag (btw that came out at least a week before everyone got their hard copy so I'd def recommend it, mag helped me land a couple plays before the zombie horde showed up).... Either way I was using a lot less info than what we have now and there was ton movement in the portal to piece together, unclear who was still eligible, etc .. couldn't get a beat on every team either, had to make a few assumptions what the quality of the opponents was gunna be .. and otherwise pre-summer pickin leaves a long time for my grapes to sour ...
Feel pretty good though, even some I'm sour on like GTech the RSW 3 feels alot better than 3.5 lol .. My favorite play by a mile was Air Force Over 7.5 .. we're def not gunna see that number again .. I think there's an 8 at CZRs still and 8.5's elsewhere .. Keep them on the radar, I woulda gotten around to playing 8.5 eventually because I have em favored in all 12, only Boise by under a TD .. Think most all scenarios end with 9+ wins unless something drastic happens like Daniels gets injured early on, etc .. that could happen w him running so much but the team is all around solid and I don't think 9W's would be dead even with a backup ..
Sup Bridge..you have some nice plays… especially those GOY plays…
just want some insight on why you are playing a couple of them that I’m thinking about also…
Co St /Michigan-28.5… the points jumped out at me too but I’m hesitant bc first game at the big house to start the season… Harbaugh doesn’t let off the gas…also both QBs have pressure to go off for the fact that both want that primary starting job.. also Michigan is loaded with exp on offense.. has the capability to blow them out and wants to wash the playoff loss out of thier mouths and get off to a strong start… Co St also lost one of the best TEs in the game and a pain in the As- QB that beat me on a couple games is gone.. so new Qb situation in the big house is never a good thing..it’s a lot of points but Mich could very well cover it
the second game is OK st..
OK st never covers but when they do it’s big.. you never know when Spencer is going to go off… though they lost the RB… Knowles on D… and an explosive WR,
So they have a 3 rd year QB and he has actually been improving every year.. I don’t think they will win the big 12 but I don’t they lose by 2 TDS in any loss they have… I don’t know much about the Mac .. I think C Mich had a good coach-Mcelwain?? Not sure but want your reasoning on why you think they can hang in Stillwater within TDS….
Sup Bridge..you have some nice plays… especially those GOY plays…
just want some insight on why you are playing a couple of them that I’m thinking about also…
Co St /Michigan-28.5… the points jumped out at me too but I’m hesitant bc first game at the big house to start the season… Harbaugh doesn’t let off the gas…also both QBs have pressure to go off for the fact that both want that primary starting job.. also Michigan is loaded with exp on offense.. has the capability to blow them out and wants to wash the playoff loss out of thier mouths and get off to a strong start… Co St also lost one of the best TEs in the game and a pain in the As- QB that beat me on a couple games is gone.. so new Qb situation in the big house is never a good thing..it’s a lot of points but Mich could very well cover it
the second game is OK st..
OK st never covers but when they do it’s big.. you never know when Spencer is going to go off… though they lost the RB… Knowles on D… and an explosive WR,
So they have a 3 rd year QB and he has actually been improving every year.. I don’t think they will win the big 12 but I don’t they lose by 2 TDS in any loss they have… I don’t know much about the Mac .. I think C Mich had a good coach-Mcelwain?? Not sure but want your reasoning on why you think they can hang in Stillwater within TDS….
Yeah that Centeo burned me a couple times… he’s pretty mobile too… but yes I agree on that staff should be an upgrade… but how fast will it translate? I think it will take a few games-half a season… but first game at the big house? And second part is how is the D gonna stop an offense of that caliber? I think this could be a 45-10 type game..I live all perspectives though… thanks for the input!
Yeah that Centeo burned me a couple times… he’s pretty mobile too… but yes I agree on that staff should be an upgrade… but how fast will it translate? I think it will take a few games-half a season… but first game at the big house? And second part is how is the D gonna stop an offense of that caliber? I think this could be a 45-10 type game..I live all perspectives though… thanks for the input!
You are talking about a couple games that I played and wrote up already somewhere back in the thread .. I hit CO.St +30 thought that was a little high but that was at least a month ago, pre-mags .. you got the right idea, I like Mich home vs those little teams and w a reasonable line .. very possible they add an explosive pass game .... BUT .... go peep the spring game, I did NOT get the warm and fuzzies and I think Bell was still sidelined sure but there were a few real whiffs passing, a couple of their best plays were trick plays RB/TE throwing .. the BIG TD looked like they put Rudy in there just to get burned... D was out of position on another easy score .. Harbaugh is def a showman with his Kapernick halftime show and looked to me like he kinda rigged up his highlight reel .. that said it does look like they are gunna try to show off some passing and get ahead wk 1 is a good time to go deep late in a game ..
I hit Michigan in these spots a few yrs back, vs W.MICH in 18 off that opener loss to ND think it was Mich -16.5ish .. did again vs W.Mich LY in the opener line about the same .. The diff then was Mich was not looking strong either off a loss or off their worst ssn ever and we got a good lines to play and as luck had it Mich was surprisingly good both those years.. W.Mich turned out to be a capable MAC team LY but they were also capable of losing to Ball State by 25 .. Now the spread is OVER 4TD's because Mich had one of their best teams ever, def their most underrated .. won't be the case this year, I fully expect them to be overrated after dream ssn and covering like 11 games ATS ... and the Rams I think going thru a very positive transition brought some real WR weapons from Nevada and Dante Wright is a legit gamer, been injured a couple years though .. 31+ pt win gotta bank on the Rams just not able to do much of anything offensively, esp landing a backdoor TD and might also want to see them turn it over a couple times .. total domination .. might happen/might not ..
I'd take Mich -28 and maybe more against Hawaii though, might be the monster 70-zip type of dominator you are wanting to see here .. line might be too massive if they lose big to vandy and W.KY but def keep that game on the radar ..
You are talking about a couple games that I played and wrote up already somewhere back in the thread .. I hit CO.St +30 thought that was a little high but that was at least a month ago, pre-mags .. you got the right idea, I like Mich home vs those little teams and w a reasonable line .. very possible they add an explosive pass game .... BUT .... go peep the spring game, I did NOT get the warm and fuzzies and I think Bell was still sidelined sure but there were a few real whiffs passing, a couple of their best plays were trick plays RB/TE throwing .. the BIG TD looked like they put Rudy in there just to get burned... D was out of position on another easy score .. Harbaugh is def a showman with his Kapernick halftime show and looked to me like he kinda rigged up his highlight reel .. that said it does look like they are gunna try to show off some passing and get ahead wk 1 is a good time to go deep late in a game ..
I hit Michigan in these spots a few yrs back, vs W.MICH in 18 off that opener loss to ND think it was Mich -16.5ish .. did again vs W.Mich LY in the opener line about the same .. The diff then was Mich was not looking strong either off a loss or off their worst ssn ever and we got a good lines to play and as luck had it Mich was surprisingly good both those years.. W.Mich turned out to be a capable MAC team LY but they were also capable of losing to Ball State by 25 .. Now the spread is OVER 4TD's because Mich had one of their best teams ever, def their most underrated .. won't be the case this year, I fully expect them to be overrated after dream ssn and covering like 11 games ATS ... and the Rams I think going thru a very positive transition brought some real WR weapons from Nevada and Dante Wright is a legit gamer, been injured a couple years though .. 31+ pt win gotta bank on the Rams just not able to do much of anything offensively, esp landing a backdoor TD and might also want to see them turn it over a couple times .. total domination .. might happen/might not ..
I'd take Mich -28 and maybe more against Hawaii though, might be the monster 70-zip type of dominator you are wanting to see here .. line might be too massive if they lose big to vandy and W.KY but def keep that game on the radar ..
As for the Chips, I hit them +19 or 20 .. also took it Under 59.5 .. that was before I got my bearings in the preview mags and now I am a bit skep on C.Mich this year esp the WR's and on D .. we know they got a BIG BOOMER RB but the good backup Lewis (inj LY) just xferred .. richardson is a pretty good QB but doesn't have a baller WR ilke Pimpleton, at least not that we know of... But gotta respect Mcelwain he's done nothing but show up with a a good run team and good run D every year so far... things looked bad when Lewis got injured pre-ssn LY and boom he shows up with maybe the best RB in CFB .. I fully expect this to be the Lew Nichols show, maybe 30 att's .. Pokes stop him and the offensive potential points drop considerably and they will have a sure thing top DL in the country that is realllly deep .. don't think the Chips are gunna breeze down the field putting drives together, think alot more gutty drives .. I never liked Sanders, think everyone else sees why now .. totally unreliable A-Martinez type of QB, no consistency at all .. nobody I'm putting my money on and lost his fav WR and Warren total beast at RB .. OK State also off maybe their best season ever too huh? .. just another reason to not be laying a big number on in the opener even if it does kinda seem like the Chips offense is in a bad matchup ..
I think the Under might be worth a look .. Chips secondary looks bad to me this year, don't have many non freshman back there .. maybe sanders can light them up but I think they'll play it safe .. plus this is def a team that MUST FIND a backup QB .. sanders been battled injuries I think each year esp 2020, first game .. if they're up and controlling late in the game be a good time to get backups some reps .. also the proj #3 backups is Gunner Gundy so might find Mike Gundy handing out reps deep down his QB depth chart .. just not a sitch where you think they finish up strong .. if you like the Pokes maybe just wait to see what the H1 line looks like at least you'll know yer just getting Sanders at QB .. Im obvi sour on my Chips +19 bet now that i think 21.5 was available .. feel much better w under 59.5 ..
As for the Chips, I hit them +19 or 20 .. also took it Under 59.5 .. that was before I got my bearings in the preview mags and now I am a bit skep on C.Mich this year esp the WR's and on D .. we know they got a BIG BOOMER RB but the good backup Lewis (inj LY) just xferred .. richardson is a pretty good QB but doesn't have a baller WR ilke Pimpleton, at least not that we know of... But gotta respect Mcelwain he's done nothing but show up with a a good run team and good run D every year so far... things looked bad when Lewis got injured pre-ssn LY and boom he shows up with maybe the best RB in CFB .. I fully expect this to be the Lew Nichols show, maybe 30 att's .. Pokes stop him and the offensive potential points drop considerably and they will have a sure thing top DL in the country that is realllly deep .. don't think the Chips are gunna breeze down the field putting drives together, think alot more gutty drives .. I never liked Sanders, think everyone else sees why now .. totally unreliable A-Martinez type of QB, no consistency at all .. nobody I'm putting my money on and lost his fav WR and Warren total beast at RB .. OK State also off maybe their best season ever too huh? .. just another reason to not be laying a big number on in the opener even if it does kinda seem like the Chips offense is in a bad matchup ..
I think the Under might be worth a look .. Chips secondary looks bad to me this year, don't have many non freshman back there .. maybe sanders can light them up but I think they'll play it safe .. plus this is def a team that MUST FIND a backup QB .. sanders been battled injuries I think each year esp 2020, first game .. if they're up and controlling late in the game be a good time to get backups some reps .. also the proj #3 backups is Gunner Gundy so might find Mike Gundy handing out reps deep down his QB depth chart .. just not a sitch where you think they finish up strong .. if you like the Pokes maybe just wait to see what the H1 line looks like at least you'll know yer just getting Sanders at QB .. Im obvi sour on my Chips +19 bet now that i think 21.5 was available .. feel much better w under 59.5 ..
Good stuff once again bro… the Michigan game I still feel covers…the QBs are gonna put on a tryout before our eyes… JJ is on his as-… even the alum/students are calling for JJ…. So there will be pressure to dominate….Defense may feast on the Luxury to be able to take risks and play loose…
You convinced me on the Chips though… I don’t like the secondary situation you talked about about … but you say they have good run D traditionally under McElwain?..so that and the fact Warren is gone and Spencer’s main weapon… forces him to use his arm to win the game and that usually ends in distaster…. Ok St has also had a couple recent opening day scares in recent years..I think Gundy experiments too much in these games.. but yeah I don’t trust Spencer either soo….. Chips and the points is sounding better….
Good stuff once again bro… the Michigan game I still feel covers…the QBs are gonna put on a tryout before our eyes… JJ is on his as-… even the alum/students are calling for JJ…. So there will be pressure to dominate….Defense may feast on the Luxury to be able to take risks and play loose…
You convinced me on the Chips though… I don’t like the secondary situation you talked about about … but you say they have good run D traditionally under McElwain?..so that and the fact Warren is gone and Spencer’s main weapon… forces him to use his arm to win the game and that usually ends in distaster…. Ok St has also had a couple recent opening day scares in recent years..I think Gundy experiments too much in these games.. but yeah I don’t trust Spencer either soo….. Chips and the points is sounding better….
And Chips have that back and the run game to control TOPossession…
How good was their line? and is that back 100%?
Ill have to research the chips a little more…that’s the one conference I neglect unfortunately… I love watching the Mac on a degenerate special late night… blistering cold.. with two fans on the top row bundled up… and those dudes just playing their as-es off.. I do catch one once and while but not often..
And Chips have that back and the run game to control TOPossession…
How good was their line? and is that back 100%?
Ill have to research the chips a little more…that’s the one conference I neglect unfortunately… I love watching the Mac on a degenerate special late night… blistering cold.. with two fans on the top row bundled up… and those dudes just playing their as-es off.. I do catch one once and while but not often..
@steponaduck Ha thx duck.. yeah think i should be the happy one bud you've been a total sniper on those ... also keep in mind, my strategy was to do the homework I could early and soon as the RSW's dropped try to capture (what I thought would be) best numbers/odds, and do it before Phil and the mags dropped .. Think my Troy RSW was the first one I made after I got the Phil digital mag (btw that came out at least a week before everyone got their hard copy so I'd def recommend it, mag helped me land a couple plays before the zombie horde showed up).... Either way I was using a lot less info than what we have now and there was ton movement in the portal to piece together, unclear who was still eligible, etc .. couldn't get a beat on every team either, had to make a few assumptions what the quality of the opponents was gunna be .. and otherwise pre-summer pickin leaves a long time for my grapes to sour ... Feel pretty good though, even some I'm sour on like GTech the RSW 3 feels alot better than 3.5 lol .. My favorite play by a mile was Air Force Over 7.5 .. we're def not gunna see that number again .. I think there's an 8 at CZRs still and 8.5's elsewhere .. Keep them on the radar, I woulda gotten around to playing 8.5 eventually because I have em favored in all 12, only Boise by under a TD .. Think most all scenarios end with 9+ wins unless something drastic happens like Daniels gets injured early on, etc .. that could happen w him running so much but the team is all around solid and I don't think 9W's would be dead even with a backup .. Good luck buddy!!
I agree with this, took Over 8 with my biggest play and doubled down on win the MW @ +550. Hoping to hit the over and make a small profit regardless, and provides a hedge opportunity with Boise visiting AF (I'm assuming they can win that, and thus the West). Thoughts on conference?
@steponaduck Ha thx duck.. yeah think i should be the happy one bud you've been a total sniper on those ... also keep in mind, my strategy was to do the homework I could early and soon as the RSW's dropped try to capture (what I thought would be) best numbers/odds, and do it before Phil and the mags dropped .. Think my Troy RSW was the first one I made after I got the Phil digital mag (btw that came out at least a week before everyone got their hard copy so I'd def recommend it, mag helped me land a couple plays before the zombie horde showed up).... Either way I was using a lot less info than what we have now and there was ton movement in the portal to piece together, unclear who was still eligible, etc .. couldn't get a beat on every team either, had to make a few assumptions what the quality of the opponents was gunna be .. and otherwise pre-summer pickin leaves a long time for my grapes to sour ... Feel pretty good though, even some I'm sour on like GTech the RSW 3 feels alot better than 3.5 lol .. My favorite play by a mile was Air Force Over 7.5 .. we're def not gunna see that number again .. I think there's an 8 at CZRs still and 8.5's elsewhere .. Keep them on the radar, I woulda gotten around to playing 8.5 eventually because I have em favored in all 12, only Boise by under a TD .. Think most all scenarios end with 9+ wins unless something drastic happens like Daniels gets injured early on, etc .. that could happen w him running so much but the team is all around solid and I don't think 9W's would be dead even with a backup .. Good luck buddy!!
I agree with this, took Over 8 with my biggest play and doubled down on win the MW @ +550. Hoping to hit the over and make a small profit regardless, and provides a hedge opportunity with Boise visiting AF (I'm assuming they can win that, and thus the West). Thoughts on conference?
Think we see alot more clock bleeding in this one than expected, App loses 4 good rec targets and no way they want to see Brice scramble around looking for open receivers, they saw enough of that at Duke .. UNC actually a surprisingly high run rate last year with Howell .. basically did it all had about as many rushes and at least gross positive yards as the top RB did .. no way Mack is showing up in Boone with his new QB gettin cutsie throwing the ball after an absurd 13% sack rate last year that's exactly how they're gunna kill all their drives .. Howell and their RB LY are both gone and British Brooks getting hyped up off his 40ish att's last year so this offense has alot to work on .. not trying to fade a a longo offense but just don't see them taking too many chances week 1 until they really need to .. Heels were a relatively quick paced O with Howell but think its very unlikely they're going full throttle in a tough week 1 roadie w their brand new QB... if so that could definitely cause their offense problems .. The real problem we could run into is if UNC's D can't stop Appy's run game, its a really loaded backfield .. Doubt UNC's D turns over a whole new leaf here but there's alot back on the DL and DB units and their run D did have a couple solid games late LY vs a really good rush O @Pitt and also NC State .. def lean toward improvement on D .. App's DC is back so I feel good they'll be tough again despite a few losses .. Their new OC is from CMU and that only further supports likely heavy run game.. idk what pace CMU played with LY but APP's prev OC dialed their pace back and I don't see a reason they speed things up .. might actually slow things way down if they're really grinding out the rush yds ..
Bookies are all offering the same total, its 57's across the board and with implied final score about 30-27 UNC wins and that total hasn't moved since it came out over a month ago .. Safe to say week 1 totals are a tough prediction in the first place and when we see stale numbers and all the books agreeing I'd say there's not much attn to this number, everyone copying not much handicapping going on .. doesn't mean they're wrong but I don't see a reason why this game would be above average scoring with so many offensive pieces being replaced .. think its very unlikely we see either team take a lead because of great passing and so no way will we see either team leading decide to 'open up the playbook' .. think this number drops a couple points sometime before kickoff so taking it now .. - Good luck!
Think we see alot more clock bleeding in this one than expected, App loses 4 good rec targets and no way they want to see Brice scramble around looking for open receivers, they saw enough of that at Duke .. UNC actually a surprisingly high run rate last year with Howell .. basically did it all had about as many rushes and at least gross positive yards as the top RB did .. no way Mack is showing up in Boone with his new QB gettin cutsie throwing the ball after an absurd 13% sack rate last year that's exactly how they're gunna kill all their drives .. Howell and their RB LY are both gone and British Brooks getting hyped up off his 40ish att's last year so this offense has alot to work on .. not trying to fade a a longo offense but just don't see them taking too many chances week 1 until they really need to .. Heels were a relatively quick paced O with Howell but think its very unlikely they're going full throttle in a tough week 1 roadie w their brand new QB... if so that could definitely cause their offense problems .. The real problem we could run into is if UNC's D can't stop Appy's run game, its a really loaded backfield .. Doubt UNC's D turns over a whole new leaf here but there's alot back on the DL and DB units and their run D did have a couple solid games late LY vs a really good rush O @Pitt and also NC State .. def lean toward improvement on D .. App's DC is back so I feel good they'll be tough again despite a few losses .. Their new OC is from CMU and that only further supports likely heavy run game.. idk what pace CMU played with LY but APP's prev OC dialed their pace back and I don't see a reason they speed things up .. might actually slow things way down if they're really grinding out the rush yds ..
Bookies are all offering the same total, its 57's across the board and with implied final score about 30-27 UNC wins and that total hasn't moved since it came out over a month ago .. Safe to say week 1 totals are a tough prediction in the first place and when we see stale numbers and all the books agreeing I'd say there's not much attn to this number, everyone copying not much handicapping going on .. doesn't mean they're wrong but I don't see a reason why this game would be above average scoring with so many offensive pieces being replaced .. think its very unlikely we see either team take a lead because of great passing and so no way will we see either team leading decide to 'open up the playbook' .. think this number drops a couple points sometime before kickoff so taking it now .. - Good luck!
Another game that just really doesn't scream average scoring especially for an opener. But some reasons for a 55 total is both these defenses really stunk last year TCU imploded big time and Buffs as a program have been well below crush depth for a few yrs both sides of the ball really struggling. We see Buffs giving up 5yds / carry and TCU giving up just an insane 5.8 and easy to predict some points. That and TCU bringing in Sonny Dykes and both his OC's from SMU and they got a couple capable QB's in Morris and Duggan plus a really good WR in Q Jackson.
The part to like is both D's were really on their last legs LY esp by seasons end, really thin all over and of all years in history this is a great one for defenses especially to reinvent themselves .. TCU brings in a really good DC from Tulsa (great get!) and while they have to install a new 3-3-5 system I do like that it tends to limit any real big explosive plays .. Buffs retain their DC and also play in that 3 down lineman system and it worked sometimes LY like limiting TA&M to 10 pts and held them under 3/carry in just a heartbreaking loss .. Buff were legit run heavy clock drainers and HC Dorrell stated he wanted to maintain that identity w his new OC hire and he got the right guy brining in Minny's OC .. I wouldn't have expected much passing into the 8 man coverage anyway, esp the way their QB/WR unit sounds and off a 13% sack rate LY, but now the pass game could be non existent .. Slow pace made it tough for any CU games to tip 55 points LY and really needed CU to score quickly and find some success passing .. total 55 only happened 3 times LY .. would count on any successful CU drives to at least kill off large chunks of the clock for us.
TCU could have quicker success scoring but they'll also be throwing into 8 man covers and while we think of an SMU offense being built on explosive passing, it is really more balanced than one might think .. CU's D won't be paper thin this year and a real positive is seeing a backlog of BIG bodies at that NT position w solid returner in 330 LB Sami and 2 more guys tipping at 340.. a real must have for this scheme .. Same for TCU big UGA xfer in the middle of the DL can create those gaps in the OL .. if Dykes shows up w an offense running on all cylinders, drops 35 then maybe CU can get 3 TD's and bust the total but again the more CU needs to contribute the more the clock is sure to be choked off.. I'd count on both D's being tougher esp in the opener ..
Total came out at 55.5 so down a hook and couple shops showing 54.5 now so seems folks who've looked into this one are at least agreeing w us .. Betting now because I could see this come down a few pts before kickoff and think no chance it goes up, nothing to like betting a higher total in this one .. This is also one of a few games I think the outcome / total is likely correlated.. Tough to imagine CU keeping up with da Frogs in a high scoring affair, but could see the Buffs effect their run heavy ball control offense. Could also see TCU w a few offensive struggles in a week 1 high altitude roadie vs home team that is hoping to make it more of a snot bubbler .. CU ML/U55 is the correlated odds booster I'd consider .. - Good luck!
Another game that just really doesn't scream average scoring especially for an opener. But some reasons for a 55 total is both these defenses really stunk last year TCU imploded big time and Buffs as a program have been well below crush depth for a few yrs both sides of the ball really struggling. We see Buffs giving up 5yds / carry and TCU giving up just an insane 5.8 and easy to predict some points. That and TCU bringing in Sonny Dykes and both his OC's from SMU and they got a couple capable QB's in Morris and Duggan plus a really good WR in Q Jackson.
The part to like is both D's were really on their last legs LY esp by seasons end, really thin all over and of all years in history this is a great one for defenses especially to reinvent themselves .. TCU brings in a really good DC from Tulsa (great get!) and while they have to install a new 3-3-5 system I do like that it tends to limit any real big explosive plays .. Buffs retain their DC and also play in that 3 down lineman system and it worked sometimes LY like limiting TA&M to 10 pts and held them under 3/carry in just a heartbreaking loss .. Buff were legit run heavy clock drainers and HC Dorrell stated he wanted to maintain that identity w his new OC hire and he got the right guy brining in Minny's OC .. I wouldn't have expected much passing into the 8 man coverage anyway, esp the way their QB/WR unit sounds and off a 13% sack rate LY, but now the pass game could be non existent .. Slow pace made it tough for any CU games to tip 55 points LY and really needed CU to score quickly and find some success passing .. total 55 only happened 3 times LY .. would count on any successful CU drives to at least kill off large chunks of the clock for us.
TCU could have quicker success scoring but they'll also be throwing into 8 man covers and while we think of an SMU offense being built on explosive passing, it is really more balanced than one might think .. CU's D won't be paper thin this year and a real positive is seeing a backlog of BIG bodies at that NT position w solid returner in 330 LB Sami and 2 more guys tipping at 340.. a real must have for this scheme .. Same for TCU big UGA xfer in the middle of the DL can create those gaps in the OL .. if Dykes shows up w an offense running on all cylinders, drops 35 then maybe CU can get 3 TD's and bust the total but again the more CU needs to contribute the more the clock is sure to be choked off.. I'd count on both D's being tougher esp in the opener ..
Total came out at 55.5 so down a hook and couple shops showing 54.5 now so seems folks who've looked into this one are at least agreeing w us .. Betting now because I could see this come down a few pts before kickoff and think no chance it goes up, nothing to like betting a higher total in this one .. This is also one of a few games I think the outcome / total is likely correlated.. Tough to imagine CU keeping up with da Frogs in a high scoring affair, but could see the Buffs effect their run heavy ball control offense. Could also see TCU w a few offensive struggles in a week 1 high altitude roadie vs home team that is hoping to make it more of a snot bubbler .. CU ML/U55 is the correlated odds booster I'd consider .. - Good luck!
Should mention that I used their welcome bonus 1k insurance bet promo on this bad boy but I was def looking to play AF already just didn't see any real juicy odds its mostly 4 or 4.5-1 and best odds happened to be MGM's so stars aligned .. I wrote up a bunch of stuff on AF further back in the pile of pre-ssn plays when betting their RSW, but long/short story is I got them favored in 11 if not 12 games this year and I could maybe see how a projection today might see Boise on the road at AF as the slight of favs but I think AF more likely shows up as a 3 pt fav in that one too ..
Chief concern is whether QB Hazziq Daniels survives the full year w out being limited by injuries .. option QB's have the ball alot so its a real risk .. also got some guys off the DL, even an NFL draft pick and turnover in the D coaching w DC Rudzinski off to UVA and promoting their LB coach .. so some worry there esp when pass D has been the real weak point of the D for a few years.. But gotta like AF playing some of their best football ever LY and not only have a ton of starters back but ton of experienced backups and not nearly the injury concerned for them like we'd have for other teams at least outside of QB ..
It also does feel like AF was playing on a level that coulda won the champ game last year .. barely lost to Utah State in a barn burner and close loss to SDSU both the eventual division winners... SDSU also came in a tough spot right on the heels of their big Boise win and not saying they were looking ahead to Army since there was a bye in between but very possible Calhoun didn't have his max effort lineup out there and still close 1 score game going -2 in turnovers and even out-yarded the aztecs .. we also saw AF beat a pretty formidable Louisville team in the Bowl and while I don't put toooo too much stock in bowl games I'd say it also didn't look like Da Ville showed up unmotivated or unprepared, it looked like Air Force legit beat a decent enough ACC team and would say that Satterfield did have cards ready in his last bowl in '19 just beating the crap out of Miss. State in that one ..
Odds are tighter than I wanted, got AF for the conference 35-1 last year and almost made the champ game .. no free lunch this time, odds are tight but not tight enough, think AF beats Boise again and they stay in the driver seat and make the champ game pretty easy .. I suspect they'll play a pretty good Fresno State team but one going thru a big coaching change too and while Haener and the old offense allowed them to hang with some pretty good teams LY they were clearly not unbeatable either with near losses to UNLV and Nevada, lost to Hawaii in a close one on the road, lost by 26 to Boise at home .. UTEP even gave em a good game in the bowl .. I like my chances ..
Should mention that I used their welcome bonus 1k insurance bet promo on this bad boy but I was def looking to play AF already just didn't see any real juicy odds its mostly 4 or 4.5-1 and best odds happened to be MGM's so stars aligned .. I wrote up a bunch of stuff on AF further back in the pile of pre-ssn plays when betting their RSW, but long/short story is I got them favored in 11 if not 12 games this year and I could maybe see how a projection today might see Boise on the road at AF as the slight of favs but I think AF more likely shows up as a 3 pt fav in that one too ..
Chief concern is whether QB Hazziq Daniels survives the full year w out being limited by injuries .. option QB's have the ball alot so its a real risk .. also got some guys off the DL, even an NFL draft pick and turnover in the D coaching w DC Rudzinski off to UVA and promoting their LB coach .. so some worry there esp when pass D has been the real weak point of the D for a few years.. But gotta like AF playing some of their best football ever LY and not only have a ton of starters back but ton of experienced backups and not nearly the injury concerned for them like we'd have for other teams at least outside of QB ..
It also does feel like AF was playing on a level that coulda won the champ game last year .. barely lost to Utah State in a barn burner and close loss to SDSU both the eventual division winners... SDSU also came in a tough spot right on the heels of their big Boise win and not saying they were looking ahead to Army since there was a bye in between but very possible Calhoun didn't have his max effort lineup out there and still close 1 score game going -2 in turnovers and even out-yarded the aztecs .. we also saw AF beat a pretty formidable Louisville team in the Bowl and while I don't put toooo too much stock in bowl games I'd say it also didn't look like Da Ville showed up unmotivated or unprepared, it looked like Air Force legit beat a decent enough ACC team and would say that Satterfield did have cards ready in his last bowl in '19 just beating the crap out of Miss. State in that one ..
Odds are tighter than I wanted, got AF for the conference 35-1 last year and almost made the champ game .. no free lunch this time, odds are tight but not tight enough, think AF beats Boise again and they stay in the driver seat and make the champ game pretty easy .. I suspect they'll play a pretty good Fresno State team but one going thru a big coaching change too and while Haener and the old offense allowed them to hang with some pretty good teams LY they were clearly not unbeatable either with near losses to UNLV and Nevada, lost to Hawaii in a close one on the road, lost by 26 to Boise at home .. UTEP even gave em a good game in the bowl .. I like my chances ..
BRIDGE PLAYS WK 1/GOY: TULSA -1 @ WYOMING UTAH @ FLORIDA OVER 52.5 UTAH -1 @ UCLA (GOY)
SMALLER WK 1/GOY: VANDY -3.5 @ HAWAII WYOMING @ ILLINOIS -9 CO.STATE +30 @ MICHIGAN W.KENTUCKY -7.5 @ HAWAII C.MICHIGAN +19 @ OK.STATE TEXAS STATE +10 @ NEVADA C.MICH @ OK.ST UNDER 59.5 UTAH @ FLORIDA OVER 52.5 L'VILLE @ CUSE UNDER 59.5 APP STATE / UNC UNDER 57 TCU / COLORADO UNDER 55 LSU @ ARKANSAS -2 (GOY) OLE MISS -7.5 @ GA TECH (GOY) FLA. STATE +11.5 @ MIAMI (GOY) S.CAROLINA +17.5 @ CLEM (GOY) WASH @ WASH STATE +1.5 (GOY) MISS STATE +7 @ OLE MISS (GOY) MINNESOTA +11.5 @ WISCO (GOY) WASH STATE +15.5 @ WISCO (GOY)
REG SSN WINS: SMU OVER 6.5 -100 (CZR) TULSA OVER 5 -115 (CZR) UNLV OVER 3.5 -110 (CZR) UTAH OVER 8.5 +100 (FAN) KANSAS OVER 2 -125 (CZR) PURDUE OVER 7 -110 (CZR) MISSOURI OVER 5 +115 (CZR) TROY RSW OVER 5.5 -115 (CZR) AIR FORCE OVER 7.5 -125 (CZR) TENNESSEE OVER 7.5 -105 (CZR) VANDERBILT OVER 2 +112 (BAR) COLO STATE OVER 4.5 -113 (BAR) WASH STATE OVER 4.5 -125 (CZR) WASH STATE OVER 5.5 +140 (FAN) GEORGIA TECH OVER 3 -125 (CZR) SOUTH ALABAMA OVER 5 -120 (CZR) UTEP RSW OVER 5.5 +115 (CZR) COASTAL UNDER 9.5 -113 (BAR) WISCONSIN UNDER 9 -115 (CZR) UTAH STATE UNDER 9 -125 (BAR) LOUISIANA UNDER 10 -143 (BAR) APP STATE UNDER 9.5 -113 (BAR) WYOMING UNDER 5.5 +100 (BAR) COLORADO UNDER 3.5 -110 (FAN) CLEMSON UNDER 10.5 +110 (CZR)
CONF FUTURES: NC STATE ACC CHAMP 12-1 (CZR) IOWA STATE B12 CHAMP 25-1 (CZR) WASH STATE PAC CHAMP 100-1 (BOL) WASH STATE PAC CHAMPS 150-1 (CZR) SAN JOSE STATE MW CHAMPS 25-1 (CZR) VIRGINIA TECH ACC CHAMPS 150-1 (CZR) SOUTH ALABAMA SUN CHAMPS 50-1 (CZR) TROY SUN BELT CHAMPS 14-1 (BOL) AIR FORCE MW CHAMP 5-1 (MGM) UTEP CUSA CHAMPS 33-1 (BAR) AKRON MAC 200-1 (BAR) OHIO MAC 16-1 (PTBET) BOWLING GREEN MAC 120-1 (BRIV)
HEISMANs: CAM RISING 90-1 (BAS) CAM WARD 150-1 (FAN) MAX JOHNSON 80-1 (FAN) JORDAN ADDISON 100-1 (BAS) JAXSON SMITH NINJA 50-1 (BAS) ANTHONY RICHARDSON 50-1 (BAS)
BRIDGE PLAYS WK 1/GOY: TULSA -1 @ WYOMING UTAH @ FLORIDA OVER 52.5 UTAH -1 @ UCLA (GOY)
SMALLER WK 1/GOY: VANDY -3.5 @ HAWAII WYOMING @ ILLINOIS -9 CO.STATE +30 @ MICHIGAN W.KENTUCKY -7.5 @ HAWAII C.MICHIGAN +19 @ OK.STATE TEXAS STATE +10 @ NEVADA C.MICH @ OK.ST UNDER 59.5 UTAH @ FLORIDA OVER 52.5 L'VILLE @ CUSE UNDER 59.5 APP STATE / UNC UNDER 57 TCU / COLORADO UNDER 55 LSU @ ARKANSAS -2 (GOY) OLE MISS -7.5 @ GA TECH (GOY) FLA. STATE +11.5 @ MIAMI (GOY) S.CAROLINA +17.5 @ CLEM (GOY) WASH @ WASH STATE +1.5 (GOY) MISS STATE +7 @ OLE MISS (GOY) MINNESOTA +11.5 @ WISCO (GOY) WASH STATE +15.5 @ WISCO (GOY)
REG SSN WINS: SMU OVER 6.5 -100 (CZR) TULSA OVER 5 -115 (CZR) UNLV OVER 3.5 -110 (CZR) UTAH OVER 8.5 +100 (FAN) KANSAS OVER 2 -125 (CZR) PURDUE OVER 7 -110 (CZR) MISSOURI OVER 5 +115 (CZR) TROY RSW OVER 5.5 -115 (CZR) AIR FORCE OVER 7.5 -125 (CZR) TENNESSEE OVER 7.5 -105 (CZR) VANDERBILT OVER 2 +112 (BAR) COLO STATE OVER 4.5 -113 (BAR) WASH STATE OVER 4.5 -125 (CZR) WASH STATE OVER 5.5 +140 (FAN) GEORGIA TECH OVER 3 -125 (CZR) SOUTH ALABAMA OVER 5 -120 (CZR) UTEP RSW OVER 5.5 +115 (CZR) COASTAL UNDER 9.5 -113 (BAR) WISCONSIN UNDER 9 -115 (CZR) UTAH STATE UNDER 9 -125 (BAR) LOUISIANA UNDER 10 -143 (BAR) APP STATE UNDER 9.5 -113 (BAR) WYOMING UNDER 5.5 +100 (BAR) COLORADO UNDER 3.5 -110 (FAN) CLEMSON UNDER 10.5 +110 (CZR)
CONF FUTURES: NC STATE ACC CHAMP 12-1 (CZR) IOWA STATE B12 CHAMP 25-1 (CZR) WASH STATE PAC CHAMP 100-1 (BOL) WASH STATE PAC CHAMPS 150-1 (CZR) SAN JOSE STATE MW CHAMPS 25-1 (CZR) VIRGINIA TECH ACC CHAMPS 150-1 (CZR) SOUTH ALABAMA SUN CHAMPS 50-1 (CZR) TROY SUN BELT CHAMPS 14-1 (BOL) AIR FORCE MW CHAMP 5-1 (MGM) UTEP CUSA CHAMPS 33-1 (BAR) AKRON MAC 200-1 (BAR) OHIO MAC 16-1 (PTBET) BOWLING GREEN MAC 120-1 (BRIV)
HEISMANs: CAM RISING 90-1 (BAS) CAM WARD 150-1 (FAN) MAX JOHNSON 80-1 (FAN) JORDAN ADDISON 100-1 (BAS) JAXSON SMITH NINJA 50-1 (BAS) ANTHONY RICHARDSON 50-1 (BAS)
Hit it as a Smaller play at -7.5 .. its definitely concerning betting into a big line move but that's not as much as normal, I expected the models and odds makers wouldn't have either team pegged till seeing a few games and just totally clueless in pre-ssn ... I'm predicting Hawaii is in worse than expected shape already have a sense looking at the Haw camp news that they are struggling to get their offense down Timmy Chang made a huge jump from WR coach to HC and I doubt he has the guys to fit a Nevada style offense esp in year 1 with maybe half the team being new to Hawaii, and just a ton who never played in college yet .. defense returns 4 starters and same problem for them very little talent or experience with alot of space to fill ..
Main concern w W.KY was finding a QB, saw Jarred Doege Coin xferred in and we know he can play, how good was the question .. but I overlooked another QB they got Austin Reed because he was from D2 but by all accounts he's more than ready for a G5 job and I got the same feeling checking him out I did for Zappe last year .. same kinda sauce .. and coaches are saying its a pretty huge battle in camp, Steele put Reed as the likely starter .. I hope he wins the job but either way I'm pretty confident the QB spot is gunna have a winner and any big lead or injury we can count on the 2nd QB to not be a major drop off .. Hills did lose a bunch of WR's but the backups of LY have plenty of experience Davis and Corrley were solid and Stearns' younger brother should crack the rotation .. also get 2X All-Con TE Josh Simon back from injury and gives them 2 real good TE's and a good WR xfer from W.Mich plenty of weapons ..
.. On the flip side hope the D can find a good replacement pass rusher for Malone but besides that the units all look fine if not capable of improving on what was a pretty decent D last year .. we can say opponents had alot of yards and points but considering the number of possessions the D did great .. UTSA / Mich State's offenses really the only ones able to keep up w these guys LY but thats not in the same universe compared to even the best outlook for Hawaii .. WKY also brings back their 1st team all con kicker from a great special teams unit .. Steele showing Hawaii using same guy as kicker and punter from a bad ST unit last year .. very unlikely they've had time to get that unit in order ..
Betting it now I think folks will wise up to what Haw is looking like as Fall Camp moves along and maybe line moves to 14 before week zero .. SP+ pre-ssn had this at like WKY -20 neutral so WKY -17 on the road .. def think it'll flow that direction if anything .. but also Haw got Vandy coming in the week before and unless Clark Lea wants to be job huntin before week 1 he better have this team squared away .. possible the Dores expose the Bows Week 0 and that'll be the only game on during the SUPER DEGEN LATE NIGHT time slot .. Hills have Austin P in week zero so prob see a real 70-zip beatdown .. doubt books will be shy about pumping up WKY to at least their SP+ number or beyond I mean who in the world is gunna be betting Hawaii south of +20 if they got Vandy rompin them at home the week before ..
Hit it as a Smaller play at -7.5 .. its definitely concerning betting into a big line move but that's not as much as normal, I expected the models and odds makers wouldn't have either team pegged till seeing a few games and just totally clueless in pre-ssn ... I'm predicting Hawaii is in worse than expected shape already have a sense looking at the Haw camp news that they are struggling to get their offense down Timmy Chang made a huge jump from WR coach to HC and I doubt he has the guys to fit a Nevada style offense esp in year 1 with maybe half the team being new to Hawaii, and just a ton who never played in college yet .. defense returns 4 starters and same problem for them very little talent or experience with alot of space to fill ..
Main concern w W.KY was finding a QB, saw Jarred Doege Coin xferred in and we know he can play, how good was the question .. but I overlooked another QB they got Austin Reed because he was from D2 but by all accounts he's more than ready for a G5 job and I got the same feeling checking him out I did for Zappe last year .. same kinda sauce .. and coaches are saying its a pretty huge battle in camp, Steele put Reed as the likely starter .. I hope he wins the job but either way I'm pretty confident the QB spot is gunna have a winner and any big lead or injury we can count on the 2nd QB to not be a major drop off .. Hills did lose a bunch of WR's but the backups of LY have plenty of experience Davis and Corrley were solid and Stearns' younger brother should crack the rotation .. also get 2X All-Con TE Josh Simon back from injury and gives them 2 real good TE's and a good WR xfer from W.Mich plenty of weapons ..
.. On the flip side hope the D can find a good replacement pass rusher for Malone but besides that the units all look fine if not capable of improving on what was a pretty decent D last year .. we can say opponents had alot of yards and points but considering the number of possessions the D did great .. UTSA / Mich State's offenses really the only ones able to keep up w these guys LY but thats not in the same universe compared to even the best outlook for Hawaii .. WKY also brings back their 1st team all con kicker from a great special teams unit .. Steele showing Hawaii using same guy as kicker and punter from a bad ST unit last year .. very unlikely they've had time to get that unit in order ..
Betting it now I think folks will wise up to what Haw is looking like as Fall Camp moves along and maybe line moves to 14 before week zero .. SP+ pre-ssn had this at like WKY -20 neutral so WKY -17 on the road .. def think it'll flow that direction if anything .. but also Haw got Vandy coming in the week before and unless Clark Lea wants to be job huntin before week 1 he better have this team squared away .. possible the Dores expose the Bows Week 0 and that'll be the only game on during the SUPER DEGEN LATE NIGHT time slot .. Hills have Austin P in week zero so prob see a real 70-zip beatdown .. doubt books will be shy about pumping up WKY to at least their SP+ number or beyond I mean who in the world is gunna be betting Hawaii south of +20 if they got Vandy rompin them at home the week before ..
Thanks bud .. hope so .. this does involve quite a bit of speculation and were layin some hefty points on a pretty long road trip .. If Hills go on the road and dick around throwing picks or just don't have their act together they could get themselves in trouble ... but the main concerns kinda addressed here .. Really like them getting a tune up game the week before vs Austin P and since QB is the clear ignition switch fore these guys I had to feel like whoever gets the QB1 nod went thru a solid competition ... Doege Coin is QB1 then I feel good thinking he won the job legitimately not because he hit 65% completions at WV or coaches were just not ready to take a chance playing a D2 kid .. Of all the teams in the world WKY should have no problems putting in the best QB no matter which league they xferred in from lol ..
Thanks bud .. hope so .. this does involve quite a bit of speculation and were layin some hefty points on a pretty long road trip .. If Hills go on the road and dick around throwing picks or just don't have their act together they could get themselves in trouble ... but the main concerns kinda addressed here .. Really like them getting a tune up game the week before vs Austin P and since QB is the clear ignition switch fore these guys I had to feel like whoever gets the QB1 nod went thru a solid competition ... Doege Coin is QB1 then I feel good thinking he won the job legitimately not because he hit 65% completions at WV or coaches were just not ready to take a chance playing a D2 kid .. Of all the teams in the world WKY should have no problems putting in the best QB no matter which league they xferred in from lol ..
Correlated parlay on W.KY hitting this spread and the total hitting .. Its possible Hawaii is such an offensive dud to start out that we kick ourselves a little bit by H2 .. but a few things to like here, W.KY definitely wants to retain their 2 QB's and best way to do that is extend their QB competition into the season and this is a great game to have it be decided .. Hills have a bye next week before going to Indy .. I really like the idea of their top two QB's pushing the offense a full 60 mins .. Hawaii may also have a QB in Cammon Cooper and a couple decent legacy RB's who can assist on the total .. tough to imagine they are decided at QB either, maybe the starter but they shouldn't be shy about pulling a dud QB out and giving someone else a shot if things aren't quite working ... both offenses should be giving us a full 60 mins even if its just for practice sake .. Just a game that shouldn't slow down much, think its big win big total ..
Correlated parlay on W.KY hitting this spread and the total hitting .. Its possible Hawaii is such an offensive dud to start out that we kick ourselves a little bit by H2 .. but a few things to like here, W.KY definitely wants to retain their 2 QB's and best way to do that is extend their QB competition into the season and this is a great game to have it be decided .. Hills have a bye next week before going to Indy .. I really like the idea of their top two QB's pushing the offense a full 60 mins .. Hawaii may also have a QB in Cammon Cooper and a couple decent legacy RB's who can assist on the total .. tough to imagine they are decided at QB either, maybe the starter but they shouldn't be shy about pulling a dud QB out and giving someone else a shot if things aren't quite working ... both offenses should be giving us a full 60 mins even if its just for practice sake .. Just a game that shouldn't slow down much, think its big win big total ..
@UNIMAN Thanks bud .. hope so .. this does involve quite a bit of speculation and were layin some hefty points on a pretty long road trip .. If Hills go on the road and dick around throwing picks or just don't have their act together they could get themselves in trouble ... but the main concerns kinda addressed here .. Really like them getting a tune up game the week before vs Austin P and since QB is the clear ignition switch fore these guys I had to feel like whoever gets the QB1 nod went thru a solid competition ... Doege Coin is QB1 then I feel good thinking he won the job legitimately not because he hit 65% completions at WV or coaches were just not ready to take a chance playing a D2 kid .. Of all the teams in the world WKY should have no problems putting in the best QB no matter which league they xferred in from lol ..
It's college football, sometimes the best logic gets thrown out the window!
I like the logic here. WKU can put up points, Rainbows defense a big ??. Rainbow offense should want to go fast with run and shoot. More pts.
Hilltoppers never been to the Island so a first for them. That's the biggest negative here. Still like it, may tail a little.
@UNIMAN Thanks bud .. hope so .. this does involve quite a bit of speculation and were layin some hefty points on a pretty long road trip .. If Hills go on the road and dick around throwing picks or just don't have their act together they could get themselves in trouble ... but the main concerns kinda addressed here .. Really like them getting a tune up game the week before vs Austin P and since QB is the clear ignition switch fore these guys I had to feel like whoever gets the QB1 nod went thru a solid competition ... Doege Coin is QB1 then I feel good thinking he won the job legitimately not because he hit 65% completions at WV or coaches were just not ready to take a chance playing a D2 kid .. Of all the teams in the world WKY should have no problems putting in the best QB no matter which league they xferred in from lol ..
It's college football, sometimes the best logic gets thrown out the window!
I like the logic here. WKU can put up points, Rainbows defense a big ??. Rainbow offense should want to go fast with run and shoot. More pts.
Hilltoppers never been to the Island so a first for them. That's the biggest negative here. Still like it, may tail a little.
Yeah logic first thing to go always lol .. see that UTSA / Houston thread I mean sure the matchup based on LY favs Houston I agree w that .. but 2 real good FB teams so why lay any points against UTSA in the thunderdome when we haven't even seen the new versions look like yet idk .. and at 4.5 or more is basically needing a TD maybe 12 or more pt lead late and the ball to feel safe .. and RR's def a team that can backdoor multiple late TD's if say they are down 17 .. not hard to imagine that UTSA is showing up just playing better FB to start the year .. I could see that landing a bunch of diff ways .. I'd say more slug fest than shootout the way both D's able to reek that havoc ..
I don't subscribe to the Bowling Green Times lol but the headlines sound like what I'd expect .. Hawaii headlines sound alot more like Chang is workin on building the culture and team unity etc and nowhere near figuring out his best depth chart and what they can do .. also expected .. Hawaii could backdoor cover or WK could make mistakes on the road but if its a clean game that doesn't have a wild n crazy ending I'd be pretty surprised if WKY isin't rompin these guys.. Seein folks bettin up Vandy and not that it doesn't make sense, I bet it early on, but between the two teams which QB's you gunna trust to cover as a decent fav.. think maybe both lol ..
Yeah logic first thing to go always lol .. see that UTSA / Houston thread I mean sure the matchup based on LY favs Houston I agree w that .. but 2 real good FB teams so why lay any points against UTSA in the thunderdome when we haven't even seen the new versions look like yet idk .. and at 4.5 or more is basically needing a TD maybe 12 or more pt lead late and the ball to feel safe .. and RR's def a team that can backdoor multiple late TD's if say they are down 17 .. not hard to imagine that UTSA is showing up just playing better FB to start the year .. I could see that landing a bunch of diff ways .. I'd say more slug fest than shootout the way both D's able to reek that havoc ..
I don't subscribe to the Bowling Green Times lol but the headlines sound like what I'd expect .. Hawaii headlines sound alot more like Chang is workin on building the culture and team unity etc and nowhere near figuring out his best depth chart and what they can do .. also expected .. Hawaii could backdoor cover or WK could make mistakes on the road but if its a clean game that doesn't have a wild n crazy ending I'd be pretty surprised if WKY isin't rompin these guys.. Seein folks bettin up Vandy and not that it doesn't make sense, I bet it early on, but between the two teams which QB's you gunna trust to cover as a decent fav.. think maybe both lol ..
Main concern w W.KY was finding a QB, saw Jarred Doege Coin xferred in and we know he can play, how good was the question .. but I overlooked another QB they got Austin Reed because he was from D2 but by all accounts he's more than ready for a G5 job and I got the same feeling checking him out I did for Zappe last year .. same kinda sauce .. and coaches are saying its a pretty huge battle in camp, Steele put Reed as the likely starter .. ..
Welp .. DOEGE COIN back in da portal again ... I'll go ahead and guess that he wasn't actually named the backup QB yet (I mean no reason for coach to do that when he'd obviously lose him right away) .. No, I'll bet J-DOG realized the contest was long over and prob not even worth continuing ... I Could be wrong sure but I'd keep one hand on that Hilltopper Popcorn Bag if I was you ... Could be sold out a whoooole lot faster than when I was tellin ya to buy it last year .. woop!..
Main concern w W.KY was finding a QB, saw Jarred Doege Coin xferred in and we know he can play, how good was the question .. but I overlooked another QB they got Austin Reed because he was from D2 but by all accounts he's more than ready for a G5 job and I got the same feeling checking him out I did for Zappe last year .. same kinda sauce .. and coaches are saying its a pretty huge battle in camp, Steele put Reed as the likely starter .. ..
Welp .. DOEGE COIN back in da portal again ... I'll go ahead and guess that he wasn't actually named the backup QB yet (I mean no reason for coach to do that when he'd obviously lose him right away) .. No, I'll bet J-DOG realized the contest was long over and prob not even worth continuing ... I Could be wrong sure but I'd keep one hand on that Hilltopper Popcorn Bag if I was you ... Could be sold out a whoooole lot faster than when I was tellin ya to buy it last year .. woop!..
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