Doenst matter one bit what type of schedule teams play. Weak schedule/tougher schedule blah blah blah. It only matters how teams perform vs that schedule.You're either a positive road team or a negative road team.
Did anyone in there right mind predict that Nebraska would open it up like that. If you watched Arizona on the road toward the ladder part of the season and removed all those garbage points they scored off of teams miscues and took into account what thier raw Points against was...their raw road PA.Then you would have uncovered the disguise that most of these teams are hiding under. Arizona couldnt score a lick of offense on the road whatsoever during their last 4 road series. They gave up 36 to Wash and gave up 24 to Cal.The only teams they held to 17 was USC and AST If you average that out you come out with an average defensive team.There stats were skewed to make em look better than they were because they played good D" at home Jeckyl and Hyde.Watch out for the Jeckyl and Hyde good home /lousy on the road and vise versa
Oregon st is another Jekyl and Hyde team BYU...from a weaker conferense smoked thier ass.Thats beacuse BYU was crushing thier road competition by 28 raw ppg and had a defensive road rating of an 11and were able to stuff the run. It showed in the final score.
Bowl games are road games for both clubs.Teams are not playing in the comforts of there own backyard with their sorority brothers and sisters. Some teams can handle playing good footbal on the road, some teams can not. Some teams are real bad at home and real good on the road.Well with this Bowl Shit..you better be the ladder
Anyone taking Tenn, LSU or the Ducks had better get their Ducks in a row.The proof is in the pudding just from what we have been seeing so far.The only way that shit ass UCLA covered that game was because Temple lost their star RB and didnt have A QB to step it up. Thats a lesson learned for me. I will mark that down for next year I made my play because of it and got burned.Temples defense was keeping them in the game until the QB couldnt handle the pressure and the 3 and outs made the defense tired and the play calling was down right trivial to say the least. It was nothing spectacular UCLA did imo.
Tenn cant score a lick on the road and neither can LSU. Anybody who has watched these 2 teams perform on the road..and I dont care who they played. Will agree... they both go down big
Jefferson will be on his ass all day 104th ranked offense.Thats the worse offense LSU has had in years. 33sacks for 238 yards. Nice offensive line there. I dont want to hear- oh they played some good defenses from a better conference than Penn State.Thats poppycock .If they didnt score the 14 points off Miss St. miscues toward the end of that game they would have lost that game13-24..intangables and (Pts teams score off another teams miscues can make some teams look better in the offensive catagory than they really are.LSU and Tennesee are prime examples...Be careful with those 2 clubs
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I think I finally figured this **BOWL SHIT **out.
Pac-10 tougher conference.
Doenst matter one bit what type of schedule teams play. Weak schedule/tougher schedule blah blah blah. It only matters how teams perform vs that schedule.You're either a positive road team or a negative road team.
Did anyone in there right mind predict that Nebraska would open it up like that. If you watched Arizona on the road toward the ladder part of the season and removed all those garbage points they scored off of teams miscues and took into account what thier raw Points against was...their raw road PA.Then you would have uncovered the disguise that most of these teams are hiding under. Arizona couldnt score a lick of offense on the road whatsoever during their last 4 road series. They gave up 36 to Wash and gave up 24 to Cal.The only teams they held to 17 was USC and AST If you average that out you come out with an average defensive team.There stats were skewed to make em look better than they were because they played good D" at home Jeckyl and Hyde.Watch out for the Jeckyl and Hyde good home /lousy on the road and vise versa
Oregon st is another Jekyl and Hyde team BYU...from a weaker conferense smoked thier ass.Thats beacuse BYU was crushing thier road competition by 28 raw ppg and had a defensive road rating of an 11and were able to stuff the run. It showed in the final score.
Bowl games are road games for both clubs.Teams are not playing in the comforts of there own backyard with their sorority brothers and sisters. Some teams can handle playing good footbal on the road, some teams can not. Some teams are real bad at home and real good on the road.Well with this Bowl Shit..you better be the ladder
Anyone taking Tenn, LSU or the Ducks had better get their Ducks in a row.The proof is in the pudding just from what we have been seeing so far.The only way that shit ass UCLA covered that game was because Temple lost their star RB and didnt have A QB to step it up. Thats a lesson learned for me. I will mark that down for next year I made my play because of it and got burned.Temples defense was keeping them in the game until the QB couldnt handle the pressure and the 3 and outs made the defense tired and the play calling was down right trivial to say the least. It was nothing spectacular UCLA did imo.
Tenn cant score a lick on the road and neither can LSU. Anybody who has watched these 2 teams perform on the road..and I dont care who they played. Will agree... they both go down big
Jefferson will be on his ass all day 104th ranked offense.Thats the worse offense LSU has had in years. 33sacks for 238 yards. Nice offensive line there. I dont want to hear- oh they played some good defenses from a better conference than Penn State.Thats poppycock .If they didnt score the 14 points off Miss St. miscues toward the end of that game they would have lost that game13-24..intangables and (Pts teams score off another teams miscues can make some teams look better in the offensive catagory than they really are.LSU and Tennesee are prime examples...Be careful with those 2 clubs
Love Tenny and under and I have LSU as one of my biggest rated bowl plays. Whats the reasoning here? Tigers always come in prepared for the bowls and will be HIGHLY motivated to close this game out. I think Tenny had time to get healthy and has the D to keep Taylor in check. See a tight hard fought game and 6 is too much.
Whats my reasoning
........DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
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Quote Originally Posted by Saint_John:
Love Tenny and under and I have LSU as one of my biggest rated bowl plays. Whats the reasoning here? Tigers always come in prepared for the bowls and will be HIGHLY motivated to close this game out. I think Tenny had time to get healthy and has the D to keep Taylor in check. See a tight hard fought game and 6 is too much.
Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
Good luck
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Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
I have decided to remove VT -5.5 and the parlay from this selection. I have uncovered a few things taking me off the game. Im going to stick with the better of the 2, which in my opinion, would be Penn State. I still say VT wins the game, the reason why the teaser stays, dont want to take the chance with the spread
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VIRGINIA TECH -5 1/2 CANCEL
PENN STATE -2.5 20 UNITS **BIG PLAY**
TEASER 7 PLAY:
VTECH +1.5 / PENNSTATE + 4.5 20 UNITS **BIG PLAY
2TEAM PARLAY
VTECH -5.5/PENNSTATE -2.5 CANCEL
I have decided to remove VT -5.5 and the parlay from this selection. I have uncovered a few things taking me off the game. Im going to stick with the better of the 2, which in my opinion, would be Penn State. I still say VT wins the game, the reason why the teaser stays, dont want to take the chance with the spread
Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
Good luck
I have considered LSU's recent bowl history. They had QB's an offensive line that never gave up 33 sacks for 236 yrds and solid RB's back then. Not this time
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Quote Originally Posted by JBoss:
Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
Good luck
I have considered LSU's recent bowl history. They had QB's an offensive line that never gave up 33 sacks for 236 yrds and solid RB's back then. Not this time
I have decided to remove VTech - 5.5 and the parlay form my this selection. Been having some serious discussions about this game and have uncovered some issues that take me off it .However, im still going to stick with the teaser only beacuase i still believe thay win the game, just dont want to take a chance with the spread.
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:
VIRGINIA TECH -5 1/2 **PLAY CANCELED**
PENN STATE -2.5 20 UNITS **BIG PLAY**
TEASER 7 PLAY:
VTECH +1.5 / PENNSTATE + 4.5 20 UNITS **BIG PLAY
2TEAM PARLAY
VTECH -5.5/PENNSTATE -2.5 ***PLAY CANCELED***
I have decided to remove VTech - 5.5 and the parlay form my this selection. Been having some serious discussions about this game and have uncovered some issues that take me off it .However, im still going to stick with the teaser only beacuase i still believe thay win the game, just dont want to take a chance with the spread.
Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
Good luck
I agree, LSU is a better faster defense, when they play at home in front of their sorority brothers and sisters. However, on the road they are just average. They cant score a lick (104th rated ), run the ball,(3.6 ypc) they give up way to many sacks( 33/236), and Jeffereson blows as QB. Mark my words.. this O-line is in big trouble vs Penn State. You might even see another shut out as last night.
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Quote Originally Posted by JBoss:
Points taken but consider LSU recent bowl history and Penn State offense against only two defenses they played in Ohio State and Iowa. LSU is a better faster defense......got to take LSU.
Va Tech is bad in bowl games. SEC is outstanding on turf in bowl games. Team speed steps up especially on def front seven. If I'm getting 6 pts on an SEC team on turf in a dome against Va Tech...got to take it.
I havent placed my bets but thinking out loud here and my mind is pretty close to made up.
Good luck
I agree, LSU is a better faster defense, when they play at home in front of their sorority brothers and sisters. However, on the road they are just average. They cant score a lick (104th rated ), run the ball,(3.6 ypc) they give up way to many sacks( 33/236), and Jeffereson blows as QB. Mark my words.. this O-line is in big trouble vs Penn State. You might even see another shut out as last night.
Dont be bitter about UCLA. They Needed to win this our the Alumni wo uld find a way to get Rick out....Defense this year took over like a mini Ravens D that had to score on D to win it!
Tenn Defense. Im sure Kiffin could shut alot of people up if he gets the W vs Old Timer Frankie!!!!!!
GL
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Dont be bitter about UCLA. They Needed to win this our the Alumni wo uld find a way to get Rick out....Defense this year took over like a mini Ravens D that had to score on D to win it!
Tenn Defense. Im sure Kiffin could shut alot of people up if he gets the W vs Old Timer Frankie!!!!!!
Good points. What about an under play? That field is shit from the Miami Wis game. With LSU Rbs out, neither team turning the ball over too much and no real threat in the return game. Could be a slugfest advantage Penn St. I still like Tenn getting pts on the turf though. Raining in Orlando could continue tomorrow.
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Good points. What about an under play? That field is shit from the Miami Wis game. With LSU Rbs out, neither team turning the ball over too much and no real threat in the return game. Could be a slugfest advantage Penn St. I still like Tenn getting pts on the turf though. Raining in Orlando could continue tomorrow.
Doenst matter one bit what type of schedule teams play. Weak schedule/tougher schedule blah blah blah. It only matters how teams perform vs that schedule.You're either a positive road team or a negative road team.
Did anyone in there right mind predict that Nebraska would open it up like that. If you watched Arizona on the road toward the ladder part of the season and removed all those garbage points they scored off of teams miscues and took into account what thier raw Points against was...their raw road PA.Then you would have uncovered the disguise that most of these teams are hiding under. Arizona couldnt score a lick of offense on the road whatsoever during their last 4 road series. They gave up 36 to Wash and gave up 24 to Cal.The only teams they held to 17 was USC and AST If you average that out you come out with an average defensive team.There stats were skewed to make em look better than they were because they played good D" at home Jeckyl and Hyde.Watch out for the Jeckyl and Hyde good home /lousy on the road and vise versa
Oregon st is another Jekyl and Hyde team BYU...from a weaker conferense smoked thier ass.Thats beacuse BYU was crushing thier road competition by 28 raw ppg and had a defensive road rating of an 11and were able to stuff the run. It showed in the final score.
Bowl games are road games for both clubs.Teams are not playing in the comforts of there own backyard with their sorority brothers and sisters. Some teams can handle playing good footbal on the road, some teams can not. Some teams are real bad at home and real good on the road.Well with this Bowl Shit..you better be the ladder
Anyone taking Tenn, LSU or the Ducks had better get their Ducks in a row.The proof is in the pudding just from what we have been seeing so far.The only way that shit ass UCLA covered that game was because Temple lost their star RB and didnt have A QB to step it up. Thats a lesson learned for me. I will mark that down for next year I made my play because of it and got burned.Temples defense was keeping them in the game until the QB couldnt handle the pressure and the 3 and outs made the defense tired and the play calling was down right trivial to say the least. It was nothing spectacular UCLA did imo.
Tenn cant score a lick on the road and neither can LSU. Anybody who has watched these 2 teams perform on the road..and I dont care who they played. Will agree... they both go down big
Jefferson will be on his ass all day 104th ranked offense.Thats the worse offense LSU has had in years. 33sacks for 238 yards. Nice offensive line there. I dont want to hear- oh they played some good defenses from a better conference than Penn State.Thats poppycock .If they didnt score the 14 points off Miss St. miscues toward the end of that game they would have lost that game13-24..intangables and (Pts teams score off another teams miscues can make some teams look better in the offensive catagory than they really are.LSU and Tennesee are prime examples...Be careful with those 2 clubs
Keep up the good work
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:
I think I finally figured this **BOWL SHIT **out.
Pac-10 tougher conference.
Doenst matter one bit what type of schedule teams play. Weak schedule/tougher schedule blah blah blah. It only matters how teams perform vs that schedule.You're either a positive road team or a negative road team.
Did anyone in there right mind predict that Nebraska would open it up like that. If you watched Arizona on the road toward the ladder part of the season and removed all those garbage points they scored off of teams miscues and took into account what thier raw Points against was...their raw road PA.Then you would have uncovered the disguise that most of these teams are hiding under. Arizona couldnt score a lick of offense on the road whatsoever during their last 4 road series. They gave up 36 to Wash and gave up 24 to Cal.The only teams they held to 17 was USC and AST If you average that out you come out with an average defensive team.There stats were skewed to make em look better than they were because they played good D" at home Jeckyl and Hyde.Watch out for the Jeckyl and Hyde good home /lousy on the road and vise versa
Oregon st is another Jekyl and Hyde team BYU...from a weaker conferense smoked thier ass.Thats beacuse BYU was crushing thier road competition by 28 raw ppg and had a defensive road rating of an 11and were able to stuff the run. It showed in the final score.
Bowl games are road games for both clubs.Teams are not playing in the comforts of there own backyard with their sorority brothers and sisters. Some teams can handle playing good footbal on the road, some teams can not. Some teams are real bad at home and real good on the road.Well with this Bowl Shit..you better be the ladder
Anyone taking Tenn, LSU or the Ducks had better get their Ducks in a row.The proof is in the pudding just from what we have been seeing so far.The only way that shit ass UCLA covered that game was because Temple lost their star RB and didnt have A QB to step it up. Thats a lesson learned for me. I will mark that down for next year I made my play because of it and got burned.Temples defense was keeping them in the game until the QB couldnt handle the pressure and the 3 and outs made the defense tired and the play calling was down right trivial to say the least. It was nothing spectacular UCLA did imo.
Tenn cant score a lick on the road and neither can LSU. Anybody who has watched these 2 teams perform on the road..and I dont care who they played. Will agree... they both go down big
Jefferson will be on his ass all day 104th ranked offense.Thats the worse offense LSU has had in years. 33sacks for 238 yards. Nice offensive line there. I dont want to hear- oh they played some good defenses from a better conference than Penn State.Thats poppycock .If they didnt score the 14 points off Miss St. miscues toward the end of that game they would have lost that game13-24..intangables and (Pts teams score off another teams miscues can make some teams look better in the offensive catagory than they really are.LSU and Tennesee are prime examples...Be careful with those 2 clubs
Good points. What about an under play? That field is shit from the Miami Wis game. With LSU Rbs out, neither team turning the ball over too much and no real threat in the return game. Could be a slugfest advantage Penn St. I still like Tenn getting pts on the turf though. Raining in Orlando could continue tomorrow.
Yeah I did more research on that game and decided to omit it.
The under looks good in the Lsu game .Really never did well with O/U though...GL Bud
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Quote Originally Posted by JBoss:
Good points. What about an under play? That field is shit from the Miami Wis game. With LSU Rbs out, neither team turning the ball over too much and no real threat in the return game. Could be a slugfest advantage Penn St. I still like Tenn getting pts on the turf though. Raining in Orlando could continue tomorrow.
Yeah I did more research on that game and decided to omit it.
The under looks good in the Lsu game .Really never did well with O/U though...GL Bud
Dont be bitter about UCLA. They Needed to win this our the Alumni wo uld find a way to get Rick out....Defense this year took over like a mini Ravens D that had to score on D to win it!
Tenn Defense. Im sure Kiffin could shut alot of people up if he gets the W vs Old Timer Frankie!!!!!!
GL
Im not Bitter!! !!
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Quote Originally Posted by LTE23:
Dont be bitter about UCLA. They Needed to win this our the Alumni wo uld find a way to get Rick out....Defense this year took over like a mini Ravens D that had to score on D to win it!
Tenn Defense. Im sure Kiffin could shut alot of people up if he gets the W vs Old Timer Frankie!!!!!!
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