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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #76

    I only spoke my mind. That is how I feel and I stand by it.
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2011 - 11:25 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    I only spoke my mind. That is how I feel and I stand by it.
    Either you are eleven years old, or you are just the biggest scumbag on Covers.... not sure, nor do I care, just speaking my mind, and I'm standing by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    I only spoke my mind. That is how I feel and I stand by it.
    Either you are eleven years old, or you are just the biggest scumbag on Covers.... not sure, nor do I care, just speaking my mind, and I'm standing by it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 12:07 AM ET #78

    I have a low tolerance for morons. He made an unsubstantiated claim that showed a very low intelligence level and I responded with my true feelings. If you have a problem with the truth, then you can decline to read it.
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    I have a low tolerance for morons. He made an unsubstantiated claim that showed a very low intelligence level and I responded with my true feelings. If you have a problem with the truth, then you can decline to read it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #79

    These are the things that stand out to me about this game:

    Boise State only lost one game last year.  They had Nevada beat and just fell apart late and gave the game away.  They beat Virginia Tech in a close game that could have gone either way.  Nevada and Virginia Tech were both very good teams. Outside of those games they played teams that were average at best, mostly below average, but they went out and crushed those teams.  None of those games were even close.

    Georgia went 6-7 last year (3-5 in the SEC).  Georgia played a much more difficult schedule than Boise State did.  Georgia played better teams than Boise State did, but they did not beat any of them.  Georgia did not beat a single team with a winning record last year.  Not only did they not beat any of the good teams they played, but they lost to a couple teams that were far inferior to them (Colorado, UCF).

    I follow SEC football very closely.  I know the Georgia team pretty well and I saw them play in person last year in a loss to South Carolina.  I am not overly knowledgeable about teams outside the SEC so I had to look for info about Boise State.  One of the reasons for some people picking Georgia to win/cover in this thread is they believe Georgia will dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Athlon Sports released a complete ranking and analysis of all 120 FBS teams.  They rated the top 10 OL and DL units in college football.  Athlon Sports rated Boise State the 5th best offensive line in the country and #1 devensive line in the country with 3 preseason All-Americans between the two groups.

    The only "clear cut advantage" I see in this game for Georgia is they have a better kicker and punter and the game is being played in the Gerogia Dome.

    It is very possible that Georgia is the more talented team but, I can not put my money on a team coming off a losing season were they did not beat a single team with a winning record when they are going up agaisnt a team with Kellen Moore at quarterback.  Moore is 38-2 as a starter and his two loses have come by a combined 4 points.  This is a play on Boise State or no play for me pending further research.

     

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    These are the things that stand out to me about this game:

    Boise State only lost one game last year.  They had Nevada beat and just fell apart late and gave the game away.  They beat Virginia Tech in a close game that could have gone either way.  Nevada and Virginia Tech were both very good teams. Outside of those games they played teams that were average at best, mostly below average, but they went out and crushed those teams.  None of those games were even close.

    Georgia went 6-7 last year (3-5 in the SEC).  Georgia played a much more difficult schedule than Boise State did.  Georgia played better teams than Boise State did, but they did not beat any of them.  Georgia did not beat a single team with a winning record last year.  Not only did they not beat any of the good teams they played, but they lost to a couple teams that were far inferior to them (Colorado, UCF).

    I follow SEC football very closely.  I know the Georgia team pretty well and I saw them play in person last year in a loss to South Carolina.  I am not overly knowledgeable about teams outside the SEC so I had to look for info about Boise State.  One of the reasons for some people picking Georgia to win/cover in this thread is they believe Georgia will dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Athlon Sports released a complete ranking and analysis of all 120 FBS teams.  They rated the top 10 OL and DL units in college football.  Athlon Sports rated Boise State the 5th best offensive line in the country and #1 devensive line in the country with 3 preseason All-Americans between the two groups.

    The only "clear cut advantage" I see in this game for Georgia is they have a better kicker and punter and the game is being played in the Gerogia Dome.

    It is very possible that Georgia is the more talented team but, I can not put my money on a team coming off a losing season were they did not beat a single team with a winning record when they are going up agaisnt a team with Kellen Moore at quarterback.  Moore is 38-2 as a starter and his two loses have come by a combined 4 points.  This is a play on Boise State or no play for me pending further research.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 12:32 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Dead_Presidents:

    These are the things that stand out to me about this game:

    Boise State only lost one game last year.  They had Nevada beat and just fell apart late and gave the game away.  They beat Virginia Tech in a close game that could have gone either way.  Nevada and Virginia Tech were both very good teams. Outside of those games they played teams that were average at best, mostly below average, but they went out and crushed those teams.  None of those games were even close.

    Georgia went 6-7 last year (3-5 in the SEC).  Georgia played a much more difficult schedule than Boise State did.  Georgia played better teams than Boise State did, but they did not beat any of them.  Georgia did not beat a single team with a winning record last year.  Not only did they not beat any of the good teams they played, but they lost to a couple teams that were far inferior to them (Colorado, UCF).

    I follow SEC football very closely.  I know the Georgia team pretty well and I saw them play in person last year in a loss to South Carolina.  I am not overly knowledgeable about teams outside the SEC so I had to look for info about Boise State.  One of the reasons for some people picking Georgia to win/cover in this thread is they believe Georgia will dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Athlon Sports released a complete ranking and analysis of all 120 FBS teams.  They rated the top 10 OL and DL units in college football.  Athlon Sports rated Boise State the 5th best offensive line in the country and #1 devensive line in the country with 3 preseason All-Americans between the two groups.

    The only "clear cut advantage" I see in this game for Georgia is they have a better kicker and punter and the game is being played in the Gerogia Dome.

    It is very possible that Georgia is the more talented team but, I can not put my money on a team coming off a losing season were they did not beat a single team with a winning record when they are going up agaisnt a team with Kellen Moore at quarterback.  Moore is 38-2 as a starter and his two loses have come by a combined 4 points.  This is a play on Boise State or no play for me pending further research.

     

    no need for pending research.  UGA has been a farce at best for the last several years.  That combined with a well coached team with heart and a stud QB....

    Sometimes teams win / cover when they clearly should not of and so ofcourse UGA may win the game and even cover but there is no way that they are the correct team to take in betting terms. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead_Presidents:

    These are the things that stand out to me about this game:

    Boise State only lost one game last year.  They had Nevada beat and just fell apart late and gave the game away.  They beat Virginia Tech in a close game that could have gone either way.  Nevada and Virginia Tech were both very good teams. Outside of those games they played teams that were average at best, mostly below average, but they went out and crushed those teams.  None of those games were even close.

    Georgia went 6-7 last year (3-5 in the SEC).  Georgia played a much more difficult schedule than Boise State did.  Georgia played better teams than Boise State did, but they did not beat any of them.  Georgia did not beat a single team with a winning record last year.  Not only did they not beat any of the good teams they played, but they lost to a couple teams that were far inferior to them (Colorado, UCF).

    I follow SEC football very closely.  I know the Georgia team pretty well and I saw them play in person last year in a loss to South Carolina.  I am not overly knowledgeable about teams outside the SEC so I had to look for info about Boise State.  One of the reasons for some people picking Georgia to win/cover in this thread is they believe Georgia will dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  Athlon Sports released a complete ranking and analysis of all 120 FBS teams.  They rated the top 10 OL and DL units in college football.  Athlon Sports rated Boise State the 5th best offensive line in the country and #1 devensive line in the country with 3 preseason All-Americans between the two groups.

    The only "clear cut advantage" I see in this game for Georgia is they have a better kicker and punter and the game is being played in the Gerogia Dome.

    It is very possible that Georgia is the more talented team but, I can not put my money on a team coming off a losing season were they did not beat a single team with a winning record when they are going up agaisnt a team with Kellen Moore at quarterback.  Moore is 38-2 as a starter and his two loses have come by a combined 4 points.  This is a play on Boise State or no play for me pending further research.

     

    no need for pending research.  UGA has been a farce at best for the last several years.  That combined with a well coached team with heart and a stud QB....

    Sometimes teams win / cover when they clearly should not of and so ofcourse UGA may win the game and even cover but there is no way that they are the correct team to take in betting terms. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 12:34 AM ET #81

    By the way I am going to bed for the night.  If you have any questions or want some insight just ask me and I will try to fill you in sometime before lunch tomorrow.

    It has been fun. 

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    By the way I am going to bed for the night.  If you have any questions or want some insight just ask me and I will try to fill you in sometime before lunch tomorrow.

    It has been fun. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 2:05 AM ET #82

    [Quote: Originally Posted by KittyKatz286]

    You're a fucking moron and I truly honestly hope you drop dead. And no, it's not because you disagree with me, it's because you say stupid things like I'm gonna proclaim I win at 75%. You base that on NOTHING. I am probably one of the most intelligent people on this site and honestly, my win% in sports other than soccer and tennis is very, very likely below 50%. In fact, for your information you stupid fuck, I even posted earlier in some thread that I know I'm not the best capper and there are tons of people better than me and I do not warrant the respect of anyone. This is not about Boise anymore, it's about idiots like you who truly, honestly, deserve to suffer a slow and painful death for contributing nothing to society. In conclusion: I HOPE YOU DIE.

    Damn KK, that's pretty fucked up wanting someone to die because as you say, (he says stupid things). It's not that important.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by KittyKatz286]

    You're a fucking moron and I truly honestly hope you drop dead. And no, it's not because you disagree with me, it's because you say stupid things like I'm gonna proclaim I win at 75%. You base that on NOTHING. I am probably one of the most intelligent people on this site and honestly, my win% in sports other than soccer and tennis is very, very likely below 50%. In fact, for your information you stupid fuck, I even posted earlier in some thread that I know I'm not the best capper and there are tons of people better than me and I do not warrant the respect of anyone. This is not about Boise anymore, it's about idiots like you who truly, honestly, deserve to suffer a slow and painful death for contributing nothing to society. In conclusion: I HOPE YOU DIE.

    Damn KK, that's pretty fucked up wanting someone to die because as you say, (he says stupid things). It's not that important.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 2:13 AM ET #83

    Did Georgia Dominate UCF in the Bowl ?????

    What happen to the Talent edge in that game ?????

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    Did Georgia Dominate UCF in the Bowl ?????

    What happen to the Talent edge in that game ?????

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 7:51 AM ET #84

    I am going to play the under 52.  Two good defenses.  Number might be inflated because of Boise St. reputation as a high scoring team.  Flash back 2 years ago to Boise/TCU in the BCS bowl game- this game has the same type of feel.
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    I am going to play the under 52.  Two good defenses.  Number might be inflated because of Boise St. reputation as a high scoring team.  Flash back 2 years ago to Boise/TCU in the BCS bowl game- this game has the same type of feel.
     
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    KittyKat- As said before- you have shown yourself as a true idiot if you want somebody to die just because you disagree with their post. Or as the poster said- you are 11 years old.

    The fact remains that arguements can be made for either team. Georgia should win based on talent, but as we all know, talent alone doesn't win ball games. Boise seems to have a big edge in coaching and they do have talent as well. Home field edge goes to Georgia. Truth be told, this game seems to have no play written all over it. I am betting on Georgia because i believe Richt will have his team ready. Am I an idiot for betting this way? No i am not. And i won't call any Boise betters idiots either. Good luck no matter which side you bet on!!

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    KittyKat- As said before- you have shown yourself as a true idiot if you want somebody to die just because you disagree with their post. Or as the poster said- you are 11 years old.

    The fact remains that arguements can be made for either team. Georgia should win based on talent, but as we all know, talent alone doesn't win ball games. Boise seems to have a big edge in coaching and they do have talent as well. Home field edge goes to Georgia. Truth be told, this game seems to have no play written all over it. I am betting on Georgia because i believe Richt will have his team ready. Am I an idiot for betting this way? No i am not. And i won't call any Boise betters idiots either. Good luck no matter which side you bet on!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2011 - 9:59 AM ET #86

    And Kitty Kat- for you to say Kellen Moore is far and away better than Aaron Murry is another biased statement. Both are very good quarterbacks. Ask any NFL scout about Aaron Murry. He is a stud that will be playing on Sundays in the near future.
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    And Kitty Kat- for you to say Kellen Moore is far and away better than Aaron Murry is another biased statement. Both are very good quarterbacks. Ask any NFL scout about Aaron Murry. He is a stud that will be playing on Sundays in the near future.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    And Kitty Kat- for you to say Kellen Moore is far and away better than Aaron Murry is another biased statement. Both are very good quarterbacks. Ask any NFL scout about Aaron Murry. He is a stud that will be playing on Sundays in the near future.
           Spot on... Compare these numbers

    Moore -  71.3 % -  3845 yds - 35 TD -  6 Int

    Murray - 61.1%  - 3049 yds -  24 TD  - 8 Int

    Murray was a freshman, and played against better defenses, and was without Green for first 4 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    And Kitty Kat- for you to say Kellen Moore is far and away better than Aaron Murry is another biased statement. Both are very good quarterbacks. Ask any NFL scout about Aaron Murry. He is a stud that will be playing on Sundays in the near future.
           Spot on... Compare these numbers

    Moore -  71.3 % -  3845 yds - 35 TD -  6 Int

    Murray - 61.1%  - 3049 yds -  24 TD  - 8 Int

    Murray was a freshman, and played against better defenses, and was without Green for first 4 games.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

           Spot on... Compare these numbers

    Moore -  71.3 % -  3845 yds - 35 TD -  6 Int

    Murray - 61.1%  - 3049 yds -  24 TD  - 8 Int

    Murray was a freshman, and played against better defenses, and was without Green for first 4 games.



    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

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           Spot on... Compare these numbers

    Moore -  71.3 % -  3845 yds - 35 TD -  6 Int

    Murray - 61.1%  - 3049 yds -  24 TD  - 8 Int

    Murray was a freshman, and played against better defenses, and was without Green for first 4 games.



    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

     
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    Murray is damn good and has a promising future. weak pass defenses? yeah right. Tideman is right on. U will see.
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    Murray is damn good and has a promising future. weak pass defenses? yeah right. Tideman is right on. U will see.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

     

    LOl. Yeah right. Moore was playing against WAC defenses. That should be all that needs to be said on that.

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    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

     

    LOl. Yeah right. Moore was playing against WAC defenses. That should be all that needs to be said on that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

    Not knocking Moore ..... but to say Murrays numbers are skewed due to weak pass defenses is laughabe... Green missed first 4 games and still lead the team in receptions with a little over 800 yards.... so Murray distributed the other 2200 yards between 8 other receivers... which is a pretty good indication that he has it upstairs  and not going to the line with his mind already made up as to where he is going to throw it.... also only 8 interceptions would indicate that this kid is the real deal .... and as a freshman. Going 1-3 in first four games Green missed is also a little misleading with losing to Gamecocks by 13...Razorbacks by 7, and MSU by 12..... not a bad showing with freshman qb, missing his star receiver.....I am not arguing who is better... only saying that anyone who discredits Murray as being a quality qb is sadly mistaken. 
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    C'mon Tide.. Murray's #'s waaay inflated due to the weak Pass D's he faced..

    Not saying Moore's are not inflated, but considering hes like 30 something and 2 as a starter, he get's a pass..

    UGA was also 1-3 withou AJ Green and that included a loss to Colorado..

    Not knocking Moore ..... but to say Murrays numbers are skewed due to weak pass defenses is laughabe... Green missed first 4 games and still lead the team in receptions with a little over 800 yards.... so Murray distributed the other 2200 yards between 8 other receivers... which is a pretty good indication that he has it upstairs  and not going to the line with his mind already made up as to where he is going to throw it.... also only 8 interceptions would indicate that this kid is the real deal .... and as a freshman. Going 1-3 in first four games Green missed is also a little misleading with losing to Gamecocks by 13...Razorbacks by 7, and MSU by 12..... not a bad showing with freshman qb, missing his star receiver.....I am not arguing who is better... only saying that anyone who discredits Murray as being a quality qb is sadly mistaken. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fts1409:

    Murray is damn good and has a promising future. weak pass defenses? yeah right. Tideman is right on. U will see.


    already have thread on how Murray did against 'actual' pass defenses..

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101110449
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    Murray is damn good and has a promising future. weak pass defenses? yeah right. Tideman is right on. U will see.


    already have thread on how Murray did against 'actual' pass defenses..

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101110449
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    already have thread on how Murray did against 'actual' pass defenses..

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101110449


    Where's the thread for how Moore did against "actual pass defenses" ?

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    already have thread on how Murray did against 'actual' pass defenses..

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=101110449


    Where's the thread for how Moore did against "actual pass defenses" ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyedog:

    Where's the thread for how Moore did against "actual pass defenses" ?



    37-2 as a starter.. think that's all the stats you need..

    but as you wish..

    • VT- 23/38, 216 yards, 3 TDS, 0 INT
    • Oregon- 19/29, 197 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
    • @Oregon- 25/37, 386 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT

    So against the "big boys from the BCS conferences" over the past 3 years..

    67/104 or 64.4%
    799 yards
    7 TDs
    1 INT
    and oh yea, the most important stat- Boise 3-0 in those games..
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    Where's the thread for how Moore did against "actual pass defenses" ?



    37-2 as a starter.. think that's all the stats you need..

    but as you wish..

    • VT- 23/38, 216 yards, 3 TDS, 0 INT
    • Oregon- 19/29, 197 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
    • @Oregon- 25/37, 386 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT

    So against the "big boys from the BCS conferences" over the past 3 years..

    67/104 or 64.4%
    799 yards
    7 TDs
    1 INT
    and oh yea, the most important stat- Boise 3-0 in those games..
     
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    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.
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    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.
    yes it is.... its worse than comparing apples and oranges, but more like grapefruits to watermelons
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    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.
    yes it is.... its worse than comparing apples and oranges, but more like grapefruits to watermelons
     
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    Really, three games out of thirty-nine. And I think you are missing a few.

    And I've really never thought of Oregon as a shut down defense.

    The rest are the country's JV teams.

     

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    Really, three games out of thirty-nine. And I think you are missing a few.

    And I've really never thought of Oregon as a shut down defense.

    The rest are the country's JV teams.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.


    not trying to compare..

    Just stating that vs. good pass defenses Murray struggled...

    that is a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    It is impossible to compare an SEC QB's stats to boise states schedule in comparison.


    not trying to compare..

    Just stating that vs. good pass defenses Murray struggled...

    that is a fact.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyedog:

    And I've really never thought of Oregon as a shut down defense.



    Well that's good.. I never thought of UGA being a shut down defense either..

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyedog:

    And I've really never thought of Oregon as a shut down defense.



    Well that's good.. I never thought of UGA being a shut down defense either..

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    not trying to compare..

    Just stating that vs. good pass defenses Murray struggled...

    that is a fact.

    Yea but Boise has never faced good defense so we don't really know about Moore.
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    not trying to compare..

    Just stating that vs. good pass defenses Murray struggled...

    that is a fact.

    Yea but Boise has never faced good defense so we don't really know about Moore.
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