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    Boise St does not deserve to play for National Title...

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    SatNightFever05
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:04 AM ET #151

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    and How would they be able to prove that with the schedule they played?


    Did anyone think Butler was the 2nd best team in CBB last year?  went 20-0 in a crap conference.. then won against a couple good teams..

    Boise doesn't have to prove anything... by starting the year in the top 5 and beating VT, they proved everything they needed to prove..

    Boise hasn't lost to a Reg season game in 3 years.. not even teams in the SEC can say they've gone undefeated against non-aq schools since 2008..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    and How would they be able to prove that with the schedule they played?


    Did anyone think Butler was the 2nd best team in CBB last year?  went 20-0 in a crap conference.. then won against a couple good teams..

    Boise doesn't have to prove anything... by starting the year in the top 5 and beating VT, they proved everything they needed to prove..

    Boise hasn't lost to a Reg season game in 3 years.. not even teams in the SEC can say they've gone undefeated against non-aq schools since 2008..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:05 AM ET #152

    Are you now comparing basketball where a playoff is used to Boise State proving something with the first game of the year?
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    Are you now comparing basketball where a playoff is used to Boise State proving something with the first game of the year?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:07 AM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    Did anyone think Butler was the 2nd best team in CBB last year?  went 20-0 in a crap conference.. then won against a couple good teams..

    Boise doesn't have to prove anything... by starting the year in the top 5 and beating VT, they proved everything they needed to prove..

    Boise hasn't lost to a Reg season game in 3 years.. not even teams in the SEC can say they've gone undefeated against non-aq schools since 2008..


    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



    Did anyone think Butler was the 2nd best team in CBB last year?  went 20-0 in a crap conference.. then won against a couple good teams..

    Boise doesn't have to prove anything... by starting the year in the top 5 and beating VT, they proved everything they needed to prove..

    Boise hasn't lost to a Reg season game in 3 years.. not even teams in the SEC can say they've gone undefeated against non-aq schools since 2008..


    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:08 AM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Are you now comparing basketball where a playoff is used to Boise State proving something with the first game of the year?


    What's with all this first game of the year stuff?

    I mean, you can't get a more clear picture of who is better between the 2 on a neutral field.. now Boise's W gets discounted because it was at the beginning of the season???  C'mon..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Are you now comparing basketball where a playoff is used to Boise State proving something with the first game of the year?


    What's with all this first game of the year stuff?

    I mean, you can't get a more clear picture of who is better between the 2 on a neutral field.. now Boise's W gets discounted because it was at the beginning of the season???  C'mon..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:08 AM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by ATLGettinPaper:



    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.


    Well then you'd be a broke SEC home then wouldn't you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLGettinPaper:



    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.


    Well then you'd be a broke SEC home then wouldn't you...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:14 AM ET #156

    You realize you are talking down about teams that have won championships and have actually done something and backing a team that has never won ANYTHING right? Then discarded all the proven teams as scrubs compared to the unproven commodity... right?
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    You realize you are talking down about teams that have won championships and have actually done something and backing a team that has never won ANYTHING right? Then discarded all the proven teams as scrubs compared to the unproven commodity... right?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:15 AM ET #157

    boise will be in the national championship game ... auburn will lose to alabama, then win the sec...oregon wins the pac10 and plays boise state for the stupid ass fake money making trophy!






    ps...boise state wins the championship!
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    boise will be in the national championship game ... auburn will lose to alabama, then win the sec...oregon wins the pac10 and plays boise state for the stupid ass fake money making trophy!






    ps...boise state wins the championship!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 3:17 AM ET #158

    Quote Originally Posted by darnbuckeyes:

    boise will be in the national championship game ... auburn will lose to alabama, then win the sec...oregon wins the pac10 and plays boise state for the stupid ass fake money making trophy!


    Man Boise is not playing in the nation title game. sorry sir.



    ps...boise state wins the championship!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darnbuckeyes:

    boise will be in the national championship game ... auburn will lose to alabama, then win the sec...oregon wins the pac10 and plays boise state for the stupid ass fake money making trophy!


    Man Boise is not playing in the nation title game. sorry sir.



    ps...boise state wins the championship!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 4:30 AM ET #159

    Can't help it but gotta post my .02 cents.

     Seems to me like the Boise St experts triumph this SEC experts LOL.

     Winner : Boise State Backers!!

     SEC Backers need to just get rid of Tebow's posters in their room cause he's gone. Tebow's Era was the only thing that keeps SEC from being a joke.
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    Can't help it but gotta post my .02 cents.

     Seems to me like the Boise St experts triumph this SEC experts LOL.

     Winner : Boise State Backers!!

     SEC Backers need to just get rid of Tebow's posters in their room cause he's gone. Tebow's Era was the only thing that keeps SEC from being a joke.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 4:42 AM ET #160

    Quote Originally Posted by ROOKIE007:

    Can't help it but gotta post my .02 cents.

     Seems to me like the Boise St experts triumph this SEC experts LOL.

     Winner : Boise State Backers!!

     SEC Backers need to just get rid of Tebow's posters in their room cause he's gone. Tebow's Era was the only thing that keeps SEC from being a joke.

    I guess Tebow played for LSU and Bama too
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROOKIE007:

    Can't help it but gotta post my .02 cents.

     Seems to me like the Boise St experts triumph this SEC experts LOL.

     Winner : Boise State Backers!!

     SEC Backers need to just get rid of Tebow's posters in their room cause he's gone. Tebow's Era was the only thing that keeps SEC from being a joke.

    I guess Tebow played for LSU and Bama too
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 5:07 AM ET #161

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    Actually Im the last person to speak of him this way, pay more attention to the ones riding his dick around him. If you think Boises defense would contain that guy, I simply feel sorry for you.


    feel sorry for me?  for what?  because i have spent too much time watching CFB?

    what does it say about you that you can't appreciate good defense?  just shut it... sit back, and we'll let this be decided in about 6 weeks... and i will be sure to get in touch with you at that point to see if you have changed your opinion any...

    see you then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    Actually Im the last person to speak of him this way, pay more attention to the ones riding his dick around him. If you think Boises defense would contain that guy, I simply feel sorry for you.


    feel sorry for me?  for what?  because i have spent too much time watching CFB?

    what does it say about you that you can't appreciate good defense?  just shut it... sit back, and we'll let this be decided in about 6 weeks... and i will be sure to get in touch with you at that point to see if you have changed your opinion any...

    see you then...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 5:30 AM ET #162

    I saw Utah beat the crap out Alabama, and make a ton of Money........
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    I saw Utah beat the crap out Alabama, and make a ton of Money........
    ....................................
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 5:58 AM ET #163

    Quote Originally Posted by oakster:

    I can tell everyone here from firsthand knowledge that Boise is the last team Duck fans want to see in the title game. They will usually parrot the same things SEC fans say. I think deep down they are afraid of losing to  BSU 3 years in a row.
    Id love to see them lose again .
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakster:

    I can tell everyone here from firsthand knowledge that Boise is the last team Duck fans want to see in the title game. They will usually parrot the same things SEC fans say. I think deep down they are afraid of losing to  BSU 3 years in a row.
    Id love to see them lose again .
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 8:54 AM ET #164

    What people seem to forget, is that very few of the good BCS schools want to schedule a non-conference game against Boise.  They will all have to play the top 3 teams in their own conference, and the risk of losing one of those is enough to shy away from a top 10 opponent like Boise, for fear of getting that second loss.

    Boise should be trying like hell to join Mountain West, then petition NCAA to make the MW a BCS conference.  TCU, Utah, Boise makes it a legit conference.

    But none of the big 6 want any more teams shwoing up at the table for a piece of the pie...  That is the real issue...

    IMO - Boise coould beat any team inthe top 10.  At a neutral site, they would be no more than +3.  Anything more than +3, and I will gladly take home my winnings.

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    What people seem to forget, is that very few of the good BCS schools want to schedule a non-conference game against Boise.  They will all have to play the top 3 teams in their own conference, and the risk of losing one of those is enough to shy away from a top 10 opponent like Boise, for fear of getting that second loss.

    Boise should be trying like hell to join Mountain West, then petition NCAA to make the MW a BCS conference.  TCU, Utah, Boise makes it a legit conference.

    But none of the big 6 want any more teams shwoing up at the table for a piece of the pie...  That is the real issue...

    IMO - Boise coould beat any team inthe top 10.  At a neutral site, they would be no more than +3.  Anything more than +3, and I will gladly take home my winnings.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #165

    Quote Originally Posted by ATLGettinPaper:



    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.

    I'm a HUGE Cornhusker fan and believe I know what kind of team they have in Lincoln this year. Boise St beats Nebraska by at least 10 if that game were to happen. Bye bye bankroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLGettinPaper:



    Man stop the foolish talk.  Boise will play Wisky or something in BCS bowl game not the NC Title game might I add.  And get beat then everybody can go to sleep and shut the hell up about Boise.  Man i'd bet half my bankroll on Nebraska if they played Boise.  I bet you they wouldn't beat Nebraska, T.Martinez would run all over that slow ass defense.

    I'm a HUGE Cornhusker fan and believe I know what kind of team they have in Lincoln this year. Boise St beats Nebraska by at least 10 if that game were to happen. Bye bye bankroll.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyamarik:

    What people seem to forget, is that very few of the good BCS schools want to schedule a non-conference game against Boise.  They will all have to play the top 3 teams in their own conference, and the risk of losing one of those is enough to shy away from a top 10 opponent like Boise, for fear of getting that second loss.

    Boise should be trying like hell to join Mountain West, then petition NCAA to make the MW a BCS conference.  TCU, Utah, Boise makes it a legit conference.

    But none of the big 6 want any more teams shwoing up at the table for a piece of the pie...  That is the real issue...

    IMO - Boise coould beat any team inthe top 10.  At a neutral site, they would be no more than +3.  Anything more than +3, and I will gladly take home my winnings.

    Great commentary! Kudos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyamarik:

    What people seem to forget, is that very few of the good BCS schools want to schedule a non-conference game against Boise.  They will all have to play the top 3 teams in their own conference, and the risk of losing one of those is enough to shy away from a top 10 opponent like Boise, for fear of getting that second loss.

    Boise should be trying like hell to join Mountain West, then petition NCAA to make the MW a BCS conference.  TCU, Utah, Boise makes it a legit conference.

    But none of the big 6 want any more teams shwoing up at the table for a piece of the pie...  That is the real issue...

    IMO - Boise coould beat any team inthe top 10.  At a neutral site, they would be no more than +3.  Anything more than +3, and I will gladly take home my winnings.

    Great commentary! Kudos.

     
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    at first, i thought they did not deserve to be in the game- and maybe they really dont- but i think they are the best team in the country this year and would win th nc game if given a shot
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    at first, i thought they did not deserve to be in the game- and maybe they really dont- but i think they are the best team in the country this year and would win th nc game if given a shot
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 12:12 PM ET #168

    Oakster,

    Did you play ball at Hampden-Sydney?
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    Oakster,

    Did you play ball at Hampden-Sydney?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 12:50 PM ET #169

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    at first, i thought they did not deserve to be in the game- and maybe they really dont- but i think they are the best team in the country this year and would win th nc game if given a shot


    which means, by definition, that they DO deserve to be in the big game... in fact, it means they are the only team that MUST be in the big game... if they are not in the big game, this season was 100% bullshit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    at first, i thought they did not deserve to be in the game- and maybe they really dont- but i think they are the best team in the country this year and would win th nc game if given a shot


    which means, by definition, that they DO deserve to be in the big game... in fact, it means they are the only team that MUST be in the big game... if they are not in the big game, this season was 100% bullshit...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 12:55 PM ET #170

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    and what makes you think Auburn's defense is worse than the teams Boise plays? LOL



    terrible rebuttal!  this seems to be how you formulate arguments... and this is how i tear them a new asshole...


    1) it doesn't matter if Auburn's defense is as bad as the team's Boise has played, because Boise has been routinely scoring 50 on those teams (often by halftime)... and they will do the EXACT same thing against Auburn's joke of an SEC defense...

    2) Boise plays teams that aren't automatically thrown to the top of the polls simply because they are an SEC team... in other words, Boise does play teams with defenses as shitty as Auburn's, but they are given no credit for beating them...


    worst of all, when Boise embarrasses the fuck out of your sorry SEC... you will still make excuses and shoot more bullshit out of your mouth...

    but the fact is, anyone with half a brain for CFB sees this coming by now... and anyone who doesn't see it by now, does not have half a brain for CFB...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    and what makes you think Auburn's defense is worse than the teams Boise plays? LOL



    terrible rebuttal!  this seems to be how you formulate arguments... and this is how i tear them a new asshole...


    1) it doesn't matter if Auburn's defense is as bad as the team's Boise has played, because Boise has been routinely scoring 50 on those teams (often by halftime)... and they will do the EXACT same thing against Auburn's joke of an SEC defense...

    2) Boise plays teams that aren't automatically thrown to the top of the polls simply because they are an SEC team... in other words, Boise does play teams with defenses as shitty as Auburn's, but they are given no credit for beating them...


    worst of all, when Boise embarrasses the fuck out of your sorry SEC... you will still make excuses and shoot more bullshit out of your mouth...

    but the fact is, anyone with half a brain for CFB sees this coming by now... and anyone who doesn't see it by now, does not have half a brain for CFB...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #171

    Hey, I am a HUGE TCU fan but what Boise does is WIN....yes, their schedule blows but they do what they're supposed to do...Win Big!!  So are you suggesting that the SECs and Big12 jokes would win 100-0 in all those games? i don't think so....of course, I'm biased, but if you look closely, TCU doesn't get near as much credit as they should....would either team go undeafeted in SEC? i always hear that....maybe, maybe not...but how often do teams finish undefeated in those leagues.?....of course, like every year there will be a handful of teams that will have ever-lasting arguments of why they should be #1...BCS is whack!
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    Hey, I am a HUGE TCU fan but what Boise does is WIN....yes, their schedule blows but they do what they're supposed to do...Win Big!!  So are you suggesting that the SECs and Big12 jokes would win 100-0 in all those games? i don't think so....of course, I'm biased, but if you look closely, TCU doesn't get near as much credit as they should....would either team go undeafeted in SEC? i always hear that....maybe, maybe not...but how often do teams finish undefeated in those leagues.?....of course, like every year there will be a handful of teams that will have ever-lasting arguments of why they should be #1...BCS is whack!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 1:49 PM ET #172

    Quote Originally Posted by ksuwins:


    I'm with ya Cougs, but for one thing.  I think Auburn would beat BSU.  Not disrespecting BSU, as they are incredible and I can't wait to see them take down their next "real" opponent.  Agreed they beat Oregon and the rest, all things being equal.  But I stop at Auburn.  Distractions aside, Cam Newton can't be stopped.  Once in a very long while, a dude comes along that nobody has an answer for.  Right now, it's Cam Newton.  The only thing that can stop Cam is Cam and whatever is going on in his mind.

    Boise has a better defense than Auburn and an offense that is equal to them. Boise wouldn't blow out Auburn but I think they would win by at least a touchdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuwins:


    I'm with ya Cougs, but for one thing.  I think Auburn would beat BSU.  Not disrespecting BSU, as they are incredible and I can't wait to see them take down their next "real" opponent.  Agreed they beat Oregon and the rest, all things being equal.  But I stop at Auburn.  Distractions aside, Cam Newton can't be stopped.  Once in a very long while, a dude comes along that nobody has an answer for.  Right now, it's Cam Newton.  The only thing that can stop Cam is Cam and whatever is going on in his mind.

    Boise has a better defense than Auburn and an offense that is equal to them. Boise wouldn't blow out Auburn but I think they would win by at least a touchdown.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:22 PM ET #173

    Quote Originally Posted by aszzzbrokerman:

    Oakster,

    Did you play ball at Hampden-Sydney?

    I am a graduate of h-sc but I didn't play football there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aszzzbrokerman:

    Oakster,

    Did you play ball at Hampden-Sydney?

    I am a graduate of h-sc but I didn't play football there.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:53 PM ET #174

    Quote Originally Posted by UrdaddyinAZ:

    Find me any other SEC QB that bested the numbers this kid put up on Ole MIss.


    Ryan Colbourn (Fresno State): 32/42, 390 yards, 4 TDs in four quarters, with three of those TDs coming after Fresno already trailed 41-10. 

    Tyler Bray (Tennessee): 18/34, 323 yards, 3 TDs, all in the first half (did not play 4th quarter due to 38 point lead). 

    I'll take the second one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrdaddyinAZ:

    Find me any other SEC QB that bested the numbers this kid put up on Ole MIss.


    Ryan Colbourn (Fresno State): 32/42, 390 yards, 4 TDs in four quarters, with three of those TDs coming after Fresno already trailed 41-10. 

    Tyler Bray (Tennessee): 18/34, 323 yards, 3 TDs, all in the first half (did not play 4th quarter due to 38 point lead). 

    I'll take the second one. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:55 PM ET #175

    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoils:

    Can you SEC guys explain to me why you don't cross the Mississippi to play? In the last 10 years I can only remmber three games. Alabama at Hawaii twice and Arkansas at USC. All the talk of the tough SEC in conference schedule. But if you look at their non conference schedule, it's made up of Sun Belt schools and San Jose St.

    Tennessee @ Cal, 2007. 
    Tennessee @UCLA, 2008. 

    future schedules:

    Tennessee @ Oregon, 2013
    Tennessee @ Oklahoma, 2014
    Tennessee @ Nebraska, 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoils:

    Can you SEC guys explain to me why you don't cross the Mississippi to play? In the last 10 years I can only remmber three games. Alabama at Hawaii twice and Arkansas at USC. All the talk of the tough SEC in conference schedule. But if you look at their non conference schedule, it's made up of Sun Belt schools and San Jose St.

    Tennessee @ Cal, 2007. 
    Tennessee @UCLA, 2008. 

    future schedules:

    Tennessee @ Oregon, 2013
    Tennessee @ Oklahoma, 2014
    Tennessee @ Nebraska, 2016
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