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    ARKANSAS @ MISSOURI: A Black Friday TROLL-SMASHING Special, from me to those who ENJOY Write-Ups!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2016 Record: 31-13 (>70%)

    This ones for all the trolls who incessantly whine and complain and harp on one loss, be it political prop bet or standard loss, while winner after winner gets posted in thread after thread.

    Trolls are a unique bunch. They are one and the same.

    They are much like a glass of water poured into an ocean. While the glass of water may be unique, after you pour it, it assimilates into the whole.

    So the same trolls that ran League Capper off this site and so many others (and even MrBator who likely, in part, didn't want to put up with them), are not the same ones you see today.

    But they function the same. The attacks are very much the same. The formula to shame and run people off this site is the same.

    They want to attack that good cappers. They want to come after them and hit them hard during losing streaks, when they are the most vulnerable. If you hit 70% for two years, they bask in the glory of a single loss, even though it's inevitable. They want to criticize you with unsubstantiated claims (i.e., you faked your record! is a famous one, but is never researched by the troll making the accusation.).

    But really, at the heart of trolling, is that you aren't within the confines of their "Capping humility code".

    Bizarre isn't it? That they are moral gatekeepers. It's true. They do this. I should know. I've been subject to it for a decade.

    You can win. You can post and win a ton  of money for a lot of posters. But DON'T get to high and mighty! They will be the arbiters of what that level of alleged arrogance is and THEY will keep it in check. They are the gatekeepers in this regard. Don't show any confidence in any pick! Don't use the word 'expertise' or else you are a self-proclaimed 'expert'!

    And they are gatekeepers because they do not want your status superseding theirs. Because their masculinity is threated. This is quite common among men with low self-worth but more importantly, athletes.

    Hyper-masculinity leads to altercations, first verbal and physical and then even modern warfare on the battlefield or football field. Thousands, and even millions of lives can be lost to appeal to this hyper-masculine mindset among leaders of countries, be it dictators or democratically-elected ones.

    And it is right here on covers. When someone gets too confident?The gatekeepers will knock them down a notch!

    But their is a panacea to this. Winning. When you win, they have no ammo. You have essentially emptied their oozy and they stand useless in the face of their complaint with a mere useless piece of steel. So that is what we will do. We will win.

    And this lead-in about trolls and hyper-masculinity leads us to our pick, and the primary focus of this game.

    The pick:

    ARKANSAS -8 over Missouri 


    SIX BIG REASONS TO BACK ARKASAS

    Let's look at what is going on off the field before we look at what is going on, on the field to solidify this play.

    Imagine if I told you Arkansas opened at -7.5 and you didn't know any of the following. None of it. Think about how you may have played Ark -7.5 anyway, just given what Mizzou is this year (a total dumpster fire) without what I'm about to tell you, and think about how you could possibly play Missouri under any circumstances after hearing this.

    1. The Ultimate Bulletin Board Material

    Let's just get right to it. You want the team you are backing motivated by what an opposing player said? You got it right here. And it's golden.

    A Missouri Linebacker Eric Biesel, their leading tackler the last 2 out of 3 games (ironically, on a defense that gave up SIXTY THREE to Tennessee last week), said the following:

    "Whether they decide to get on a plane and show up at our stadium on Friday, that's their call," Beisel told reporters, according to the Columbia Daily Tribune. "I'll tell you what, if they do decide to come, it's going to be hectic. Our fans are going to bring it, and we're going to bring it. It'd be a mistake, showing up in Columbia, Missouri.

    "We're going to take some aggression out on Ar-kansas this Friday, this Black Friday. It's going to be a black-out game. They're not going to see what's coming. If they do decide to show up, like I said, it'll be a huge mistake.”

    Beisel intentionally mispronounced "Arkansas" as "Ar-kansas" three times. The St. Louis native also said he was pulling a hoax and stringing the Razorbacks along in the recruiting process back in high school.

    This team is 3-7. This team just gave up 600+ yards the previous week in a near 30 point loss. This team is dead last in the SEC in total defense and he said...that.

    If a player from Alabama said this, it would catch my eye. Here? I'll lay every point after hearing this given I'd be considering Arkansas anyway on this play. Of course, there are other reasons for the cap itself but this is an incredible motivator for Arkansas.

    These comments were so inflammatory, Missouri HC Barry Odom had to have Beisel personally apologize for them to Arkansas HC Beilema (likely because of a potential on the field scuffle pre-game or during the game).

    Have the Arkansas players forgiven these comments after the apology? Not only haven't they, they have openly said Beilema has addressed them in the locker room, as in, "let your play do the talking on Friday." That is EXACTLY what I like to hear when it comes to bulletin board material motivating players. Forthright and effective. Let your play do the talking. We have to get over a spread of 8 and we want Arkansas to pour it on. And there is no reason after these comments, that we think they'll back off.

    And we even have video of what the players think.

    Want to hear how the players are treating this? The first two comments are benign and then you see how the players are taking this. I suggest you pop this into your browser and see it for yourself. It's your money, and needless to say, it's not pretty if you already locked a bet in on Missouri.

    https://www.wholehogsports.com/videos/2016/nov/22/13156/

    Now how, after this, if you knew nothing about this game, do you say "I like Missouri with the points here!"???

    Now let's look at what's on the field:



    ....had a feeling you were going to take this or Tulsa!

    My two plays this week exactly! (5U each).....and taking 10 dogs for I UNIT each  both pts and ML....still trying to work those out! This is the time for surprises and letdowns because the boys are looking forward to their break!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2016 Record: 31-13 (>70%)

    This ones for all the trolls who incessantly whine and complain and harp on one loss, be it political prop bet or standard loss, while winner after winner gets posted in thread after thread.

    Trolls are a unique bunch. They are one and the same.

    They are much like a glass of water poured into an ocean. While the glass of water may be unique, after you pour it, it assimilates into the whole.

    So the same trolls that ran League Capper off this site and so many others (and even MrBator who likely, in part, didn't want to put up with them), are not the same ones you see today.

    But they function the same. The attacks are very much the same. The formula to shame and run people off this site is the same.

    They want to attack that good cappers. They want to come after them and hit them hard during losing streaks, when they are the most vulnerable. If you hit 70% for two years, they bask in the glory of a single loss, even though it's inevitable. They want to criticize you with unsubstantiated claims (i.e., you faked your record! is a famous one, but is never researched by the troll making the accusation.).

    But really, at the heart of trolling, is that you aren't within the confines of their "Capping humility code".

    Bizarre isn't it? That they are moral gatekeepers. It's true. They do this. I should know. I've been subject to it for a decade.

    You can win. You can post and win a ton  of money for a lot of posters. But DON'T get to high and mighty! They will be the arbiters of what that level of alleged arrogance is and THEY will keep it in check. They are the gatekeepers in this regard. Don't show any confidence in any pick! Don't use the word 'expertise' or else you are a self-proclaimed 'expert'!

    And they are gatekeepers because they do not want your status superseding theirs. Because their masculinity is threated. This is quite common among men with low self-worth but more importantly, athletes.

    Hyper-masculinity leads to altercations, first verbal and physical and then even modern warfare on the battlefield or football field. Thousands, and even millions of lives can be lost to appeal to this hyper-masculine mindset among leaders of countries, be it dictators or democratically-elected ones.

    And it is right here on covers. When someone gets too confident?The gatekeepers will knock them down a notch!

    But their is a panacea to this. Winning. When you win, they have no ammo. You have essentially emptied their oozy and they stand useless in the face of their complaint with a mere useless piece of steel. So that is what we will do. We will win.

    And this lead-in about trolls and hyper-masculinity leads us to our pick, and the primary focus of this game.

    The pick:

    ARKANSAS -8 over Missouri 


    SIX BIG REASONS TO BACK ARKASAS

    Let's look at what is going on off the field before we look at what is going on, on the field to solidify this play.

    Imagine if I told you Arkansas opened at -7.5 and you didn't know any of the following. None of it. Think about how you may have played Ark -7.5 anyway, just given what Mizzou is this year (a total dumpster fire) without what I'm about to tell you, and think about how you could possibly play Missouri under any circumstances after hearing this.

    1. The Ultimate Bulletin Board Material

    Let's just get right to it. You want the team you are backing motivated by what an opposing player said? You got it right here. And it's golden.

    A Missouri Linebacker Eric Biesel, their leading tackler the last 2 out of 3 games (ironically, on a defense that gave up SIXTY THREE to Tennessee last week), said the following:

    "Whether they decide to get on a plane and show up at our stadium on Friday, that's their call," Beisel told reporters, according to the Columbia Daily Tribune. "I'll tell you what, if they do decide to come, it's going to be hectic. Our fans are going to bring it, and we're going to bring it. It'd be a mistake, showing up in Columbia, Missouri.

    "We're going to take some aggression out on Ar-kansas this Friday, this Black Friday. It's going to be a black-out game. They're not going to see what's coming. If they do decide to show up, like I said, it'll be a huge mistake.”

    Beisel intentionally mispronounced "Arkansas" as "Ar-kansas" three times. The St. Louis native also said he was pulling a hoax and stringing the Razorbacks along in the recruiting process back in high school.

    This team is 3-7. This team just gave up 600+ yards the previous week in a near 30 point loss. This team is dead last in the SEC in total defense and he said...that.

    If a player from Alabama said this, it would catch my eye. Here? I'll lay every point after hearing this given I'd be considering Arkansas anyway on this play. Of course, there are other reasons for the cap itself but this is an incredible motivator for Arkansas.

    These comments were so inflammatory, Missouri HC Barry Odom had to have Beisel personally apologize for them to Arkansas HC Beilema (likely because of a potential on the field scuffle pre-game or during the game).

    Have the Arkansas players forgiven these comments after the apology? Not only haven't they, they have openly said Beilema has addressed them in the locker room, as in, "let your play do the talking on Friday." That is EXACTLY what I like to hear when it comes to bulletin board material motivating players. Forthright and effective. Let your play do the talking. We have to get over a spread of 8 and we want Arkansas to pour it on. And there is no reason after these comments, that we think they'll back off.

    And we even have video of what the players think.

    Want to hear how the players are treating this? The first two comments are benign and then you see how the players are taking this. I suggest you pop this into your browser and see it for yourself. It's your money, and needless to say, it's not pretty if you already locked a bet in on Missouri.

    https://www.wholehogsports.com/videos/2016/nov/22/13156/

    Now how, after this, if you knew nothing about this game, do you say "I like Missouri with the points here!"???

    Now let's look at what's on the field:



    ....had a feeling you were going to take this or Tulsa!

    My two plays this week exactly! (5U each).....and taking 10 dogs for I UNIT each  both pts and ML....still trying to work those out! This is the time for surprises and letdowns because the boys are looking forward to their break!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2016 - 7:45 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I appreciate the gesture. I do not check my mail because the scripts on this site run for a minute just to access my inbox. I don't have another minute to give to a site that already has slowed down immensely over the years with all the advertising. So I didn't see the PM's.

    Thanks for the offer but I'll just be posting here.

    P.S. And thanks for acknowledging the "Rex Ryan will get you home" angle, my most unpopular by far, because of this forum's intense dislike of him and his brother. But one that hits with an enormous success rate.

    Scott max - nice additions Week


    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.

    Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.

    Thanks SCAL!!!!



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    I appreciate the gesture. I do not check my mail because the scripts on this site run for a minute just to access my inbox. I don't have another minute to give to a site that already has slowed down immensely over the years with all the advertising. So I didn't see the PM's.

    Thanks for the offer but I'll just be posting here.

    P.S. And thanks for acknowledging the "Rex Ryan will get you home" angle, my most unpopular by far, because of this forum's intense dislike of him and his brother. But one that hits with an enormous success rate.

    Scott max - nice additions Week


    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.

    Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.

    Thanks SCAL!!!!



     
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    The best!  TY and Happy Thanksgiving.


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    You're the man Scal. I look forward to your write ups every week!
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    I can tell you that the Arkansas players and coaches have been aware of the smack talk this week. I can also tell you that Missouri is going to get an @$$ kicking on Friday. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybucker69:

    I don't see motivation mattering in this game.  This Arkansas team has had plenty of motivation to get up in big games and they haven't competed

    LSU has no QB.  They aren't a good offensive team.  And they struggle this year because teams load up the box.  Arkansas knew they couldn't throw and loaded up the box and still gave up 8 yards a carry.  On their home field right after LSU was banged up the week before.  That's pathetic.

    56 points to Auburn. People jumped on Auburn because of that game.  Then they got shut out by Georgia.  What happened?  Well they run the ball well but have no QB.  Didn't matter vs Arkansas.

    NO shame in losing by 30 to Bama.  But the last 2 meetings they gave up 14 points and 20 something last year.  And Bama had a defensive score last year.  I bring this up because this isn't the Arkansas team you know and love that competes every week and gets better at the end of the season.  There is a big sample size to show this D is only a small step above Missouri which I acknowledge is insanely bad.

    The Mizzou running back situation will hurt.  But a big hole to run through is a big hole to run through.  It is the most overrated position on the field.

    They may score 60 on Mizzou.  But what bothers me is that Mizzou is highly likely to get at least 30 in this game.  Maybe in the forties.  And then you're banking on Arkansas getting in the fifties.  It's easy to predict a team scoring 40 in a lot of these games, but whether that team gets 50 or 60 is a bit arbitrary.  And so if I'm counting on giving up at least 34-35 I can't lay 8 in that spot.  With that being said, Arkansas can hand it off every time and score a boat load, but if Missouri gets a few lucky stops which I think they're capable you'll have to really sweat it out.

    To me, -8 vs -12 or 13 matters but it's not extremely significant.  Winning by 7 loses either way.  Winning by 13 ties or wins either way.  The ten number obviously changes, but that's the only common number in between.  If it was a four point difference between a different point interval, I would feel stronger about.

    Look, maybe me challenging this play will bring you good luck.  I don't think it's a bad play.  I just wonder if anyone is gonna punt in this game, and if that doesn't happen Mizzou covers.  Good news for you is they have no kicker, but then again maybe that is a bad thing and they'll have four downs to score anywhere inside the 50 every time. 

    How much do you think Missou is scoring here?  Out of curiosity.  Look if you think Arkansas gets 60, I get the play.  I just have a lower bound estimate of Missou with 31 and upper bound 45 so I think they need 50+ here.  If I thought 40 would do it I'd love the play.  Missou got 36 at Tennessee last week before the fourth started.  Same defense as Arkansas and that was a road game.


    You're looking at this game through the wrong lens.

    If you and I sat down at a table and were to have a conversation about this and you began first, the first sentence I bolded above would be perfectly reasonable.

    When I provide video evidence this team will be most certainly motivated to address, on the field, on both offense and defense, comments which threaten their masculinity (which is why I prefaced the write-up with a talk about trolls and their hyper-masculine complex), you simply cannot type that same sentence above.

    If you do not believe what is in that video, then that is your choice and you are free to do that.

    And that is where the grey area of psychological capping comes in. And that is why people do not explore it. They are uncomfortable with it.

    Do you believe the players will respond to the situation after they have more than implied that they will? Do you believe the coach has addressed this, which the players have said he has (Compare this to Scott Frost addressing the UCF/UConn rivalry Bob Diaco created, which he said he didn't pay attention to; Beliema did the opposite here)?

    If you choose to ignore the players responses, then you can turn to the empirical evidence of statistics.

    The problem with statistics, although absolutely necessary to be evaluated before a cap, is that they have already been factored into the line. You have to pour through reams of stats and find the relevant groupings to help you with a cap. An extremely arduous task but it can be done. But again, those stats are in the line. So you may spend all that time reaching the end of a rainbow with no pot of gold. Otherwise, you can take alternative avenues. One avenue is finding angles to get you over a line, to justify a line.

    And this is one such angle. And there are others in the OP. It's simply a matter of your belief or non-belief in what has been presented.

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    I don't see motivation mattering in this game.  This Arkansas team has had plenty of motivation to get up in big games and they haven't competed

    LSU has no QB.  They aren't a good offensive team.  And they struggle this year because teams load up the box.  Arkansas knew they couldn't throw and loaded up the box and still gave up 8 yards a carry.  On their home field right after LSU was banged up the week before.  That's pathetic.

    56 points to Auburn. People jumped on Auburn because of that game.  Then they got shut out by Georgia.  What happened?  Well they run the ball well but have no QB.  Didn't matter vs Arkansas.

    NO shame in losing by 30 to Bama.  But the last 2 meetings they gave up 14 points and 20 something last year.  And Bama had a defensive score last year.  I bring this up because this isn't the Arkansas team you know and love that competes every week and gets better at the end of the season.  There is a big sample size to show this D is only a small step above Missouri which I acknowledge is insanely bad.

    The Mizzou running back situation will hurt.  But a big hole to run through is a big hole to run through.  It is the most overrated position on the field.

    They may score 60 on Mizzou.  But what bothers me is that Mizzou is highly likely to get at least 30 in this game.  Maybe in the forties.  And then you're banking on Arkansas getting in the fifties.  It's easy to predict a team scoring 40 in a lot of these games, but whether that team gets 50 or 60 is a bit arbitrary.  And so if I'm counting on giving up at least 34-35 I can't lay 8 in that spot.  With that being said, Arkansas can hand it off every time and score a boat load, but if Missouri gets a few lucky stops which I think they're capable you'll have to really sweat it out.

    To me, -8 vs -12 or 13 matters but it's not extremely significant.  Winning by 7 loses either way.  Winning by 13 ties or wins either way.  The ten number obviously changes, but that's the only common number in between.  If it was a four point difference between a different point interval, I would feel stronger about.

    Look, maybe me challenging this play will bring you good luck.  I don't think it's a bad play.  I just wonder if anyone is gonna punt in this game, and if that doesn't happen Mizzou covers.  Good news for you is they have no kicker, but then again maybe that is a bad thing and they'll have four downs to score anywhere inside the 50 every time. 

    How much do you think Missou is scoring here?  Out of curiosity.  Look if you think Arkansas gets 60, I get the play.  I just have a lower bound estimate of Missou with 31 and upper bound 45 so I think they need 50+ here.  If I thought 40 would do it I'd love the play.  Missou got 36 at Tennessee last week before the fourth started.  Same defense as Arkansas and that was a road game.


    You're looking at this game through the wrong lens.

    If you and I sat down at a table and were to have a conversation about this and you began first, the first sentence I bolded above would be perfectly reasonable.

    When I provide video evidence this team will be most certainly motivated to address, on the field, on both offense and defense, comments which threaten their masculinity (which is why I prefaced the write-up with a talk about trolls and their hyper-masculine complex), you simply cannot type that same sentence above.

    If you do not believe what is in that video, then that is your choice and you are free to do that.

    And that is where the grey area of psychological capping comes in. And that is why people do not explore it. They are uncomfortable with it.

    Do you believe the players will respond to the situation after they have more than implied that they will? Do you believe the coach has addressed this, which the players have said he has (Compare this to Scott Frost addressing the UCF/UConn rivalry Bob Diaco created, which he said he didn't pay attention to; Beliema did the opposite here)?

    If you choose to ignore the players responses, then you can turn to the empirical evidence of statistics.

    The problem with statistics, although absolutely necessary to be evaluated before a cap, is that they have already been factored into the line. You have to pour through reams of stats and find the relevant groupings to help you with a cap. An extremely arduous task but it can be done. But again, those stats are in the line. So you may spend all that time reaching the end of a rainbow with no pot of gold. Otherwise, you can take alternative avenues. One avenue is finding angles to get you over a line, to justify a line.

    And this is one such angle. And there are others in the OP. It's simply a matter of your belief or non-belief in what has been presented.

     
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    Scale - always enjoy your work and write ups.  The trolls don't like it because most can't read .  Have a great Turkey
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    Why do people have to question Scal and his amazing write-ups? Trolls go home and tail someone else and tell me how that goes for you. 

    Ark-8 all day long

    Happy Thanksgiving Scal and Much appreciated analysis on this game and the time it takes, always the best 
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    Ark-8 all day long

    Happy Thanksgiving Scal and Much appreciated analysis on this game and the time it takes, always the best 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvs23:


    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.

    Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.

    Thanks SCAL!!!!



    I appreciate it man but I'm fine with 5Dimes lines and limits. And I am comfortable with what I profit off this game already. Plus this is relaxing for me. I play at the limit where I can watch a game and win or lose it without going berserk. Which helps me cap a game the next day. 

    I have played countless hours of poker and dreamed about $25/$50 blind no-limit games. That would be quite a rush. I know I can beat several of the guys in that game. In fact many are actually poor poker players.

    But if I have Kings and he has Pocket Aces pre-flop and I have to call an all in for $15K, I'm in deep shi*. You can't just walk to the Mac machine and withdraw another $15K. So I play at a limit where I am comfortable. And that is an enormous psychological weight off my mind which helps me free up the mental resources to play the game properly. And the same applies to capping.

    Stanford. Very Nice!

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    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.

    Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.

    Thanks SCAL!!!!



    I appreciate it man but I'm fine with 5Dimes lines and limits. And I am comfortable with what I profit off this game already. Plus this is relaxing for me. I play at the limit where I can watch a game and win or lose it without going berserk. Which helps me cap a game the next day. 

    I have played countless hours of poker and dreamed about $25/$50 blind no-limit games. That would be quite a rush. I know I can beat several of the guys in that game. In fact many are actually poor poker players.

    But if I have Kings and he has Pocket Aces pre-flop and I have to call an all in for $15K, I'm in deep shi*. You can't just walk to the Mac machine and withdraw another $15K. So I play at a limit where I am comfortable. And that is an enormous psychological weight off my mind which helps me free up the mental resources to play the game properly. And the same applies to capping.

    Stanford. Very Nice!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxjames:


    What did you find in the Zona/ASU game?  Rivalry game and all, I see no way ASU doesn't cover here.  Line is a little funky but Zona is a shot fighter.  I am sure you can find a zillion psychological angles on ASU's side in this one.

    I agree. I was leaning ASU as obvious as that may seem. I was very close to posting it but this game had so much more. Something irks me about the ASU play too. Probably that its such a long-standing in-state rivalry. But how in the world will AZ be able to keep up offensively for 4 quarters? I was blown away that line opened at -3 ASU. Wow. Just blown away. This might be the worst Arizona team on offense I have ever seen. Decimated in so many areas. And now they get only a FG for all that destruction at so many positions. Just flabbergasted at that line. Thought it would be -6 or even -7 ASU. I'm much more comfortable with this play though. Missouri, my god, they have disgraced themselves in so many ways. I just can't process how far this D has fallen. 

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    What did you find in the Zona/ASU game?  Rivalry game and all, I see no way ASU doesn't cover here.  Line is a little funky but Zona is a shot fighter.  I am sure you can find a zillion psychological angles on ASU's side in this one.

    I agree. I was leaning ASU as obvious as that may seem. I was very close to posting it but this game had so much more. Something irks me about the ASU play too. Probably that its such a long-standing in-state rivalry. But how in the world will AZ be able to keep up offensively for 4 quarters? I was blown away that line opened at -3 ASU. Wow. Just blown away. This might be the worst Arizona team on offense I have ever seen. Decimated in so many areas. And now they get only a FG for all that destruction at so many positions. Just flabbergasted at that line. Thought it would be -6 or even -7 ASU. I'm much more comfortable with this play though. Missouri, my god, they have disgraced themselves in so many ways. I just can't process how far this D has fallen. 

     
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    I now have a seventh bullet point to add to the OP.


    Missouri announced Wednesday -- the day before Thanksgiving -- that defensive line coach Jackie Shipp has been removed from the staff because of his conduct with an "internal matter."

    "Jackie Shipp is no longer coaching for us, due to an internal matter where his conduct didn't meet our expectations for coaches," Missouri coach Barry Odom said in a statement released by the school. "We have a very high level of expectation for our student athletes, and for our staff that applies to an even higher level."

    Odom, a former Missouri assistant, decided not to keep longtime defensive line coach Craig Kuligowski when he accepted the full-time job after last season. Chris Wilson was Odom's first hire for the spot, but he left after six weeks to take a job in the https://www.cbssports.com/nflNFL with the Philadelphia Eagles. Shipp, a former assistant at Arizona State and Oklahoma, accepted the job in February.

    According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the "internal matter" involved an argument between Shipp and a Missouri player before the Tennessee game last week in Knoxville. Shipp "did not coach in the game and did not travel back to Columbia with the team."


    Well how did this work out in the Tennessee game defensively folks...63. He was fired before that game.

    Now defensively, you have players arguing with coaches, who are dropping like flies. Lovely for a Arkansas side no???

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    Missouri announced Wednesday -- the day before Thanksgiving -- that defensive line coach Jackie Shipp has been removed from the staff because of his conduct with an "internal matter."

    "Jackie Shipp is no longer coaching for us, due to an internal matter where his conduct didn't meet our expectations for coaches," Missouri coach Barry Odom said in a statement released by the school. "We have a very high level of expectation for our student athletes, and for our staff that applies to an even higher level."

    Odom, a former Missouri assistant, decided not to keep longtime defensive line coach Craig Kuligowski when he accepted the full-time job after last season. Chris Wilson was Odom's first hire for the spot, but he left after six weeks to take a job in the https://www.cbssports.com/nflNFL with the Philadelphia Eagles. Shipp, a former assistant at Arizona State and Oklahoma, accepted the job in February.

    According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the "internal matter" involved an argument between Shipp and a Missouri player before the Tennessee game last week in Knoxville. Shipp "did not coach in the game and did not travel back to Columbia with the team."


    Well how did this work out in the Tennessee game defensively folks...63. He was fired before that game.

    Now defensively, you have players arguing with coaches, who are dropping like flies. Lovely for a Arkansas side no???

     
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    Badger Stoney - Appreciate it!

    Hog Jet Deer WPG

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    Badger Stoney - Appreciate it!

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    Good luck Scal and Happy Thanksgiving.   Bet u r starting to relate to yur hero Trump w all these trolls heckling u
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    Scal, another great write-up!

    Guys, this is not just a "hunch" bet. This gentleman provides many factors leading into his pick. Scal is nothing if not thorough.

    Haters, continue to hate. The man is hitting at 71%, so you're hitting 29% fading/hating. 

    Good Luck with that.

    Sometimes, you don't have to find a winner. If you can find a loser, it's still a way to make money.

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    Scal, another great write-up!

    Guys, this is not just a "hunch" bet. This gentleman provides many factors leading into his pick. Scal is nothing if not thorough.

    Haters, continue to hate. The man is hitting at 71%, so you're hitting 29% fading/hating. 

    Good Luck with that.

    Sometimes, you don't have to find a winner. If you can find a loser, it's still a way to make money.

    Let's go!
     
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    As always, Hawk

    Exactly. If I am going to lay 8 as a road dog, I better bring the goods. If anyone says I haven't here, I'll have more to say.


    Sheik - Trump comes out yesterday and asks to give him a chance. I have. For all the years I watched him implode AC in my own backyard.

    He used to stroll through the Taj Mahal casino.

    He wouldn't shake anyone's hand. He's a germaphobe at heart. It KILLS him to give all these handshakes, kisses and hugs to the common man.

    Kills him. I love it.

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    As always, Hawk

    Exactly. If I am going to lay 8 as a road dog, I better bring the goods. If anyone says I haven't here, I'll have more to say.


    Sheik - Trump comes out yesterday and asks to give him a chance. I have. For all the years I watched him implode AC in my own backyard.

    He used to stroll through the Taj Mahal casino.

    He wouldn't shake anyone's hand. He's a germaphobe at heart. It KILLS him to give all these handshakes, kisses and hugs to the common man.

    Kills him. I love it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Quote Originally Posted by kvs23:

    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.Thanks SCAL!!!!
    I appreciate it man but I'm fine with 5Dimes lines and limits. And I am comfortable with what I profit off this game already. Plus this is relaxing for me. I play at the limit where I can watch a game and win or lose it without going berserk. Which helps me cap a game the next day. I have played countless hours of poker and dreamed about $25/$50 blind no-limit games. That would be quite a rush. I know I can beat several of the guys in that game. In fact many are actually poor poker players.But if I have Kings and he has Pocket Aces pre-flop and I have to call an all in for $15K, I'm in deep shi*. You can't just walk to the Mac machine and withdraw another $15K. So I play at a limit where I am comfortable. And that is an enormous psychological weight off my mind which helps me free up the mental resources to play the game properly. And the same applies to capping.Stanford. Very Nice!


    I play in some very big poker games in city - including 100/200 blind PLO. You can ask around if you play in city (my name is in email). I also back good players in games so we can also have a convo about ur poker strategy and whether I can bankroll you in some of the big NYC games. I have made a lot doing it and so have the horses I have bankrolled in games.

    I promise just one lunch coffee or dinner. Then u decide what u want to do. (Maybe sports or maybe poker or maybe both or maybe none).

    Enjoy turkey day!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvs23:

    It will take less than 5 minutes of your time and I think offer will be good.  Basically, I have A LOT of access to books - with very good lines (reduced juice) and they take HEAVY action - so it's possible to give you access and we both have some equity portion.  Better for you - as you get better lines / more access - better for me as I don't need to be on this site.  Also, have tons of syndicate plays that you can see for yourself - and do what you want with it.Please do call / email.  A quick coffee or meal anywhere in NYC (my treat of course).  I am not regular jerk on this site (Stanford undergrad, HBS for grad school, work in finance) - I promise this is worth your time.Thanks SCAL!!!!
    I appreciate it man but I'm fine with 5Dimes lines and limits. And I am comfortable with what I profit off this game already. Plus this is relaxing for me. I play at the limit where I can watch a game and win or lose it without going berserk. Which helps me cap a game the next day. I have played countless hours of poker and dreamed about $25/$50 blind no-limit games. That would be quite a rush. I know I can beat several of the guys in that game. In fact many are actually poor poker players.But if I have Kings and he has Pocket Aces pre-flop and I have to call an all in for $15K, I'm in deep shi*. You can't just walk to the Mac machine and withdraw another $15K. So I play at a limit where I am comfortable. And that is an enormous psychological weight off my mind which helps me free up the mental resources to play the game properly. And the same applies to capping.Stanford. Very Nice!


    I play in some very big poker games in city - including 100/200 blind PLO. You can ask around if you play in city (my name is in email). I also back good players in games so we can also have a convo about ur poker strategy and whether I can bankroll you in some of the big NYC games. I have made a lot doing it and so have the horses I have bankrolled in games.

    I promise just one lunch coffee or dinner. Then u decide what u want to do. (Maybe sports or maybe poker or maybe both or maybe none).

    Enjoy turkey day!!!
     
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    As of right now, 87% of the public on Arkansas and the line has moved from -9 to -7.5. 

    Missouri has done well this year when the public was against them big at home. Public was on Georgia big as a touchdown favorite and they only won by 1. Public was on Vanderbilt big as a 3.5 point underdog and Missouri won by 9. 
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    As of right now, 87% of the public on Arkansas and the line has moved from -9 to -7.5. 

    Missouri has done well this year when the public was against them big at home. Public was on Georgia big as a touchdown favorite and they only won by 1. Public was on Vanderbilt big as a 3.5 point underdog and Missouri won by 9. 
    Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family! 



     
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    And to add to my last poker comment

    KK vs AA has 18 percent equity.  So if pot is 30k in total ur ending stack will be about 5k (some dead money in pot) so it is a 10k mistake on average with hi variance

    So the analysis is range of hands and pre flop action and tendecni es to determine if worth it 

    (Point is I think about poker a lot and not making stuff up to try to entice a meeting)


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    And to add to my last poker comment

    KK vs AA has 18 percent equity.  So if pot is 30k in total ur ending stack will be about 5k (some dead money in pot) so it is a 10k mistake on average with hi variance

    So the analysis is range of hands and pre flop action and tendecni es to determine if worth it 

    (Point is I think about poker a lot and not making stuff up to try to entice a meeting)


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    Don't worry about the haters scal - Too many of them, and some seem to depend solely on the great work done by folks like yourself (and others).  As a "newbie" in the sense of trying to cap games myself, and I don't post much because I am still learning the ways, it scares me off from posting.  I see people posting plays (with no reason or write ups to follow) just to get dumped on.  What incentive is there to post then?

    Love your write-ups, and thanks for putting in much time and research on your picks!
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    Don't worry about the haters scal - Too many of them, and some seem to depend solely on the great work done by folks like yourself (and others).  As a "newbie" in the sense of trying to cap games myself, and I don't post much because I am still learning the ways, it scares me off from posting.  I see people posting plays (with no reason or write ups to follow) just to get dumped on.  What incentive is there to post then?

    Love your write-ups, and thanks for putting in much time and research on your picks!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2016 - 10:57 AM ET #47

    Good stuff scal. I really think a lot of the trolls are bookies and their sons. Lmaooooooooo. They are mad that info is at the fingertips of most smart bettors and cappers. They are mad at great sites such as this one where the info is put out for those who can't cap games. People such as you and many others who put games out for the people. Especially people like yourself who win at a high rate. It takes away from their yearly winnings. It cuts into their handouts from their pops. The local bookies hate the internet and sites and people like you. But you don't let these clowns run you off. I hate it for the great ones who have left. Every time I see one leave it's like they win. But not you. You keep winning and that makes them even sicker. So keep doing what you do brother. Dertydude thanks you and many others who have been here all these years and doesn't go anywhere. Maybe I'm wrong maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me. But that's my 2 cents.
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    Good stuff scal. I really think a lot of the trolls are bookies and their sons. Lmaooooooooo. They are mad that info is at the fingertips of most smart bettors and cappers. They are mad at great sites such as this one where the info is put out for those who can't cap games. People such as you and many others who put games out for the people. Especially people like yourself who win at a high rate. It takes away from their yearly winnings. It cuts into their handouts from their pops. The local bookies hate the internet and sites and people like you. But you don't let these clowns run you off. I hate it for the great ones who have left. Every time I see one leave it's like they win. But not you. You keep winning and that makes them even sicker. So keep doing what you do brother. Dertydude thanks you and many others who have been here all these years and doesn't go anywhere. Maybe I'm wrong maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me. But that's my 2 cents.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2016 - 11:05 AM ET #48

    Happy Turkey day Scal..  TY for a box full of winners this year.. 
    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2016 - 11:11 AM ET #49

    Did scam already make a NFL play for Sunday
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    Scal 

    If only you would stop w the generalities and be more specific with your writing. 
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    If only you would stop w the generalities and be more specific with your writing. 
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