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87-53-2................Utah & Boisie St writeup and play

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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 3:26 AM ET #26

Hey Gilberto, do you think the Vegas factor will effect how the Broncos (and Utes) play?  I mean these cats have probably been partying all week and now they gotta go play football in the rain.  Will this have any bearing on their performance? What do you think?
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Hey Gilberto, do you think the Vegas factor will effect how the Broncos (and Utes) play?  I mean these cats have probably been partying all week and now they gotta go play football in the rain.  Will this have any bearing on their performance? What do you think?
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 3:40 AM ET #27

                  BOISE STATE BRONCOS      
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 7:55 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by Peripatetic:

Fisticuffs between the 2 teams may have amped Boise...not that they needed it.

Love hearing that

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Quote Originally Posted by Peripatetic:

Fisticuffs between the 2 teams may have amped Boise...not that they needed it.

Love hearing that

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 7:56 AM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

Also if your going to look at the last 4 games.You should also look at the first 7-8 games they were playing very well.I think Utah covers here

Good luck, but actually I prefer to pick against teams that started out strong and then limped to the finish line such as UTEP.

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Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

Also if your going to look at the last 4 games.You should also look at the first 7-8 games they were playing very well.I think Utah covers here

Good luck, but actually I prefer to pick against teams that started out strong and then limped to the finish line such as UTEP.

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 9:10 AM ET #30

BOL Gilberto
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 9:24 AM ET #31

I don't know who covers but I do know Boise will come out absolutely motivated. Pissed and ready to take it out on somebody might be a better way of saying it. The Northern Illinois game might be a good example. They both lost to a team they had no business losing to and the next game they were out to crush their hapless next opponent. Having said that Utah is way better than Fresno State but then again Boise is way better than NIU.

Hate spotting that many points, hate it. Boise small for me. 

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I don't know who covers but I do know Boise will come out absolutely motivated. Pissed and ready to take it out on somebody might be a better way of saying it. The Northern Illinois game might be a good example. They both lost to a team they had no business losing to and the next game they were out to crush their hapless next opponent. Having said that Utah is way better than Fresno State but then again Boise is way better than NIU.

Hate spotting that many points, hate it. Boise small for me. 

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 9:32 AM ET #32

I like your analysis and this will be the first bowl game I'll play this season. I just think there is too much talent difference between BSU and Utah. BOL!
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I like your analysis and this will be the first bowl game I'll play this season. I just think there is too much talent difference between BSU and Utah. BOL!
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 10:43 AM ET #33

size  matters boise st should control the lines.which means the talent in the skill positions have the holes and chances to make the plays go large
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size  matters boise st should control the lines.which means the talent in the skill positions have the holes and chances to make the plays go large
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 10:45 AM ET #34

BOL

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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 12:39 PM ET #35

GL Gilberto
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 12:40 PM ET #36

GL BRO , I love the play.

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GL BRO , I love the play.

 
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followin you here my man! think boise controls this whole game and wins by 24. utah either lost or almost lost to every decent team they have played, i dont see them hangin around with boise tonight. lets get paid!!

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followin you here my man! think boise controls this whole game and wins by 24. utah either lost or almost lost to every decent team they have played, i dont see them hangin around with boise tonight. lets get paid!!

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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #39

good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5
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good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:19 PM ET #40

Like Boise also.........

taking their team total over though. I think they are pissed off and will run the score up if possible..................

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Like Boise also.........

taking their team total over though. I think they are pissed off and will run the score up if possible..................

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by lordzud:

I don't know who covers but I do know Boise will come out absolutely motivated. Pissed and ready to take it out on somebody might be a better way of saying it. The Northern Illinois game might be a good example. They both lost to a team they had no business losing to and the next game they were out to crush their hapless next opponent. Having said that Utah is way better than Fresno State but then again Boise is way better than NIU.

Hate spotting that many points, hate it. Boise small for me. 

I hate it too, but I sort of look at this way. Once Boisie state gets up by 14 in the first half, then the spread is really 3 from that point forward......just my crazy thinking.....good luck

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Quote Originally Posted by lordzud:

I don't know who covers but I do know Boise will come out absolutely motivated. Pissed and ready to take it out on somebody might be a better way of saying it. The Northern Illinois game might be a good example. They both lost to a team they had no business losing to and the next game they were out to crush their hapless next opponent. Having said that Utah is way better than Fresno State but then again Boise is way better than NIU.

Hate spotting that many points, hate it. Boise small for me. 

I hate it too, but I sort of look at this way. Once Boisie state gets up by 14 in the first half, then the spread is really 3 from that point forward......just my crazy thinking.....good luck

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:21 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by CaliCash:

Hey Gilberto, do you think the Vegas factor will effect how the Broncos (and Utes) play?  I mean these cats have probably been partying all week and now they gotta go play football in the rain.  Will this have any bearing on their performance? What do you think?

You know the Vegas thing is a really good question, but I'm assuming the coaches have this under control. It would be great to know which team was smart enough to have a plan in place prior to going into Vegas to keep the distractions down.

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Quote Originally Posted by CaliCash:

Hey Gilberto, do you think the Vegas factor will effect how the Broncos (and Utes) play?  I mean these cats have probably been partying all week and now they gotta go play football in the rain.  Will this have any bearing on their performance? What do you think?

You know the Vegas thing is a really good question, but I'm assuming the coaches have this under control. It would be great to know which team was smart enough to have a plan in place prior to going into Vegas to keep the distractions down.

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:26 PM ET #43

[Quote: Originally Posted by Gilberto]

Boisie State -16.5/Quote]    Im glad to see your on Boise! I took -9 buying dwn, -130 1st half and -16 -130 game!  BOL this week and Merry Christmas Gliberto!

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[Quote: Originally Posted by Gilberto]

Boisie State -16.5/Quote]    Im glad to see your on Boise! I took -9 buying dwn, -130 1st half and -16 -130 game!  BOL this week and Merry Christmas Gliberto!

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:28 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by StevieY:

Gilberto would u still make this play even though its supposed to rain all day and night in vegas tomorrow?

It should be a "dry" rain

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Quote Originally Posted by StevieY:

Gilberto would u still make this play even though its supposed to rain all day and night in vegas tomorrow?

It should be a "dry" rain

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:29 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by PGram13:

Quote Originally Posted by Gilberto:

Boisie State -16.5/Quote]    Im glad to see your on Boise! I took -9 buying dwn, -130 1st half and -16 -130 game!  BOL this week and Merry Christmas Gliberto!

Good luck and Merry Chiristmas to you as well

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Quote Originally Posted by PGram13:

Quote Originally Posted by Gilberto:

Boisie State -16.5/Quote]    Im glad to see your on Boise! I took -9 buying dwn, -130 1st half and -16 -130 game!  BOL this week and Merry Christmas Gliberto!

Good luck and Merry Chiristmas to you as well

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:29 PM ET #46

Favorites are4-0 in Bowl games this year, Boise rock, take the over, 56-7, no motivation needed.
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Favorites are4-0 in Bowl games this year, Boise rock, take the over, 56-7, no motivation needed.
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by dannyestrada:

good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5

You are correct I very rarely play over/under as I'm not very good at it, although occasionally I have to on Iowa since I'm a homer and won't bet against them.....typically.

1H's I do play from time to time, and if I do I'll put in my thread and typically about 30 minutes before game time as it takes longer to cap/find information to verify my play.

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Quote Originally Posted by dannyestrada:

good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5

You are correct I very rarely play over/under as I'm not very good at it, although occasionally I have to on Iowa since I'm a homer and won't bet against them.....typically.

1H's I do play from time to time, and if I do I'll put in my thread and typically about 30 minutes before game time as it takes longer to cap/find information to verify my play.

 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:42 PM ET #48

Boise St. is clearly the better team on paper.  Lets look at strength of schedule and motivation.  Utah clearly plays in the tougher conference as Boise is poised to join next year.  Utah on to the pac 10.?  (should they be?  question for another day.  Boise's Defensive stats are good, but against who????  

Give me Whittingham's perfect bowl record and the points.  Utah may win this game.

Boise is more than disappointed to be playing in a rainy miserable slug fest in Las Vegas.  They thought they would be arguing about their rights to a national title game.  weather big factor tonight.  

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Boise St. is clearly the better team on paper.  Lets look at strength of schedule and motivation.  Utah clearly plays in the tougher conference as Boise is poised to join next year.  Utah on to the pac 10.?  (should they be?  question for another day.  Boise's Defensive stats are good, but against who????  

Give me Whittingham's perfect bowl record and the points.  Utah may win this game.

Boise is more than disappointed to be playing in a rainy miserable slug fest in Las Vegas.  They thought they would be arguing about their rights to a national title game.  weather big factor tonight.  

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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET #49

I see the questions regarding weather all over the place, so I thought I would share my thoughts since this seems to be a legitimate concern out there:

 I think one of  biggest myths about bad weather is that it leads to less points. This can be true for extremely windy days, but not for rainy or snow days. To me it's because the defense has to react to what the offense is doing.

It's much harder for a defensive back to change directions with poor footing, so their is an advantage in the passing game there.

 Poor weather can also lead to more turnovers, usually meaning good field position and more scoring opportunities. Bad weather games can actually lead to more points scored.

If it's raining and the footing is bad look at the following:

On the season which team has the turnover advantage.

I lean towards passing and uptempo teams vs. run it grind it teams. Much bigger advantage to passing/uptempo teams.

Bottom line for me:

If my capping/thoughts tell me Boisie State can cover a -16.5 spread on a good weather day, than this only helps my feelings stronger that they will have an advantage tonight if the field is poor.

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I see the questions regarding weather all over the place, so I thought I would share my thoughts since this seems to be a legitimate concern out there:

 I think one of  biggest myths about bad weather is that it leads to less points. This can be true for extremely windy days, but not for rainy or snow days. To me it's because the defense has to react to what the offense is doing.

It's much harder for a defensive back to change directions with poor footing, so their is an advantage in the passing game there.

 Poor weather can also lead to more turnovers, usually meaning good field position and more scoring opportunities. Bad weather games can actually lead to more points scored.

If it's raining and the footing is bad look at the following:

On the season which team has the turnover advantage.

I lean towards passing and uptempo teams vs. run it grind it teams. Much bigger advantage to passing/uptempo teams.

Bottom line for me:

If my capping/thoughts tell me Boisie State can cover a -16.5 spread on a good weather day, than this only helps my feelings stronger that they will have an advantage tonight if the field is poor.

 
 
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Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by dannyestrada:

good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5
This happens to be my favorite play on this game as Boise always gets off to a good start. If you look back at the closer games they played against VT, Oregon st and Nevada, they led each of those games at the half by 6, 14, and 17 respectively before letting up a little bit in the second half.
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Quote Originally Posted by dannyestrada:

good write up gilberto it seems that u never play the over and unders or also 1st half spread. Any reason why?  cause i like the first half -9.5
This happens to be my favorite play on this game as Boise always gets off to a good start. If you look back at the closer games they played against VT, Oregon st and Nevada, they led each of those games at the half by 6, 14, and 17 respectively before letting up a little bit in the second half.
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