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I'm about to pound a Kentucky to win the region future. I think they can beat Wash/WVA pretty easily. But the Cornell game scares me. Thoughts?
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Who thinks Cornell has a shot at beating Kentucky?
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Quote Originally Posted by whsbaseball21:
I'm about to pound a Kentucky to win the region future. I think they can beat Wash/WVA pretty easily. But the Cornell game scares me. Thoughts?
I'm about to pound a Kentucky to win the region future. I think they can beat Wash/WVA pretty easily. But the Cornell game scares me. Thoughts?
Vegas line: 9
Vegas Total: 147.5
Powerline projection:
Cornell 60
Kentucky 79
Spread: 19
Total: 139
But that is just one estimate. Good luck with whatever you decide
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Cornell has a lot of seniors (8 I think) going against the youngest team in the tourney. Cornell has length, and can rain the 3 ball from anywhere as well. Plus, they're smart and well coached. Certainly have a good shot, though they aren't as athletic or filled with NBA talent like UK
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Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:
Cornell only shot 13 for 37 threes at the Carrier Dome when they played the Cuse. Not an easy venue to shoot from deep. If they miss like that and Kentucky gets their transition going, could be the blow out that that score simulation had. Any less than 40% to 45% 3 pt shooting won't get it done. BOL
Cornell has a lot of seniors (8 I think) going against the youngest team in the tourney. Cornell has length, and can rain the 3 ball from anywhere as well. Plus, they're smart and well coached. Certainly have a good shot, though they aren't as athletic or filled with NBA talent like UK
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Quote Originally Posted by 222bad:
Cornell only shot 13 for 37 threes at the Carrier Dome when they played the Cuse. Not an easy venue to shoot from deep. If they miss like that and Kentucky gets their transition going, could be the blow out that that score simulation had. Any less than 40% to 45% 3 pt shooting won't get it done. BOL
Cornell only shot 13 for 37 threes at the Carrier Dome when they played the Cuse. Not an easy venue to shoot from deep. If they miss like that and Kentucky gets their transition going, could be the blow out that that score simulation had. Any less than 40% to 45% 3 pt shooting won't get it done. BOL
Oh I agree, Cornell is going to have to shoot VERY well to stay in 
But Cornell has had really only two games like that this year (1 being that one against Cuse). . . UK even though they won all but two, have had a lot of ugly wins this year and been more inconsistent IMO
I do feel I know what I will get with Cornell if I put my money on them, I feel less like that about UK due to their inconsistencies during the season and their youth. I haven't decided one way or the other really, just saying I don't think UK rolling through this one is a slam dunk
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Quote Originally Posted by joesinswins:
Cornell has that 7 footer inside which opens up their 3 game. This is no Home game for KY. I think Cohey rnell has a great Chance. If they lose it wont be by 9 it will be by 2 or 3.
Cornell Shoots Period. Not a streaky team and KY Well... Do they really have a great D?
Nope
Cornell has that 7 footer inside which opens up their 3 game. This is no Home game for KY. I think Cohey rnell has a great Chance. If they lose it wont be by 9 it will be by 2 or 3.
Cornell Shoots Period. Not a streaky team and KY Well... Do they really have a great D?
Nope
Evidently you have not seen KY play too much, Their defense is awesome. They are the biggest team in the country, very athletic, & defend well. By the way, I have seen them play numerous times this year. If they continue to play at the level they are playing at now, they cannot be beat...
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Seems like a game you could feel stupid betting either side.
On one hand, you just played the young, talented team against a fiesty little team who is much more experienced "smarter"...and your inconsistent bunch didn't come to play and let them take it to the wire. You feel like an idiot for siding with them.
Or, you bet the scrappy bunch who has a significant talent disadvantage, and the team loaded with future NBA lottery picks brings their A game...and it's over in the first 10 minutes. You have to watch an absolute beating and know your bet is crushed.
Just gotta hate betting a game when the single biggest factor is whether or not Kentucky really comes to play...
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Quote Originally Posted by PizzaBoyRick:
Evidently you have not seen KY play too much, Their defense is awesome. They are the biggest team in the country, very athletic, & defend well. By the way, I have seen them play numerous times this year. If they continue to play at the level they are playing at now, they cannot be beat...
I mean they havnt had difficult competition these first 2 rounds. They struggled in the sec final game. The tenn game was impressive. Struggled against alabama. Just alot of close games. I dont think they are playing at the high level you say they are.
Evidently you have not seen KY play too much, Their defense is awesome. They are the biggest team in the country, very athletic, & defend well. By the way, I have seen them play numerous times this year. If they continue to play at the level they are playing at now, they cannot be beat...
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It's like this:
If you're looking to score, take Kentucky, because odds are they will crush Cornell. Cornell will probably go into a period where their shots won't fall. It happens when playing against a team with good defense and athleticism. Many people took Gonzaga against Syracuse. I did not, even tho' I live in Washington. Many people think St Mary's will beat Baylor. I do not. Many people think Cornell has a good chance against Kentucky. I do not. It's easy to get caught up in a "feel good" moment. BUT the reality is that we're now talking about the Sweet 16, where the really good teams that have real athletes, play defense, and can execute a gameplan, will win.
With that said, I think there is a VERY SMALL chance that Cornell will pull an upset or even stay close. BUT that's fine because I'm not taking Cornell because I think it'll make money for me...I'm taking Cornell because I want to root for them. The game is about having fun, with a pizza and a beer in hand. My play on them is just to get me to feel like I'm part of the experience.
If you're looking to score, take Kentucky, because odds are they will crush Cornell. Cornell will probably go into a period where their shots won't fall. It happens when playing against a team with good defense and athleticism. Many people took Gonzaga against Syracuse. I did not, even tho' I live in Washington. Many people think St Mary's will beat Baylor. I do not. Many people think Cornell has a good chance against Kentucky. I do not. It's easy to get caught up in a "feel good" moment. BUT the reality is that we're now talking about the Sweet 16, where the really good teams that have real athletes, play defense, and can execute a gameplan, will win.
With that said, I think there is a VERY SMALL chance that Cornell will pull an upset or even stay close. BUT that's fine because I'm not taking Cornell because I think it'll make money for me...I'm taking Cornell because I want to root for them. The game is about having fun, with a pizza and a beer in hand. My play on them is just to get me to feel like I'm part of the experience.
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YES the game is practically at home for Cornell...CU has visited the CARRIER DOME atleast the last 3 years, including this year. I am thinkin that there could be close to as much BLUE as RED come thurs night filling up the seats..UK basketball is well supported,,,ALL OVER the place,,,I imagein you we will have ALL the WEST VA and Washington fans (how many make the trip?) pulling for Cornell as well as all the LOCALS who got tickets. so as it may look like mixed red and blue....vocally CU will be heavily backed in this game......The further the game gets,,the longer cornell makes it a game,,,the louder it will get!!
AS far as I can tell,,The Size in the front court is pretty close to even. Foote is taller and actually weighs more than Cousins (although it doesnt seem like it.) Patterson (6'9") is taller than both Jaques and Wittman (6'7") but 7'0 and 2 - 6'7" 's isnt exactly a small frontcourt. Kentucky has a bigger backcourt, Wall is 6'4" and averages 35 mpg. both Wroblewski and Dale are 6'0" and play nearly 30 mpg,,thats means they are on the court together A LOT! cornell does have a guard in Geoff Reeves who is 6'4 but only plays about 18 mpg. this looks like a matchup problem to me..who is gonna contain WALL??? Id expect Cornell to mix up Defenses.
Kentucky will be pretty well rested with 2 blow outs in the first 2 rounds,,,,Kentucky fans shouldn't be overly pumped about the beat down of WAKE,,,,Aminu had 3 fouls half way through the first and it was game over,,,,WF could NOT score without him in teh line-up......Cornell will pose a little more of a threat,,,If FOOTE gets in foul trouble,,,they will be able to survive on offense without him even though they function better with him. If Foote does get in foul trouble,,Cornell's biggest weakness becomes defense and def. reb......losein your Anchor of your defense for an extended period of time can spell disaster!
Kansas and KENTUCKY were supposed to be the teams that couldn't lose...Kansas is gone! Missouri valley conf team picked em off. Cornell had a lead on Kansas IN Kansas under the 4 minute mark in the 2nd. They lost by 5, the only other team to come within 10 points of KU at home was BAYLOR lost by 6. So why not an IVY league team over KENTUCKY?
Dont believe that CORNELL is a 12 seed and playing cinderella. This team was ranked top 25 and after one game they team didnt show up for (loss @ Penn) followed by 9 WINS...they fell too near 100 in the power rankings,,Big east teams were losing 3-4 games in that stretch and going up?? how did that fair for them? Cornell then dissmantled 2 of the best Defenses in the Tournament put up 30 more points then Wisc. gives up a game on avg. This team was more like a 5 seed.
As far as NBA talent is concerned,,,WALL, COUSINS yeahhhhhhh...kentucky has LOTTERY NBA talent......... but cornell has 2 guys who you might see on DRAFT night,,,,Jeff FOOTE..7 ft 265, huge wingspan,,,has come a long way in 4 years,,,Ryan Witman ,,tall enough for the nba, and shoots like he plays in the nba.
AS far as I can tell It looks like WE got a pretty good game on our HANDS!! CORNELL +450
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Quote Originally Posted by payne034:
WV wasnt +120 to win the region for no reason
SO WV has every bit of talent to beat WV and is better overall imo
well you're right. because the only team that can be wva is wva. they'll beat themselves in the game vs washington this weekend. washington is playing incredibly well. better than they have all year. poindexter and thomas are clicking. i see kentucky over washington... but ever since the george mason year, the thought of an underdog is always possible. i would say kentucky gets it done. plus taking kentucky -140 to win the region, they just need to win straight up, not cover the 9.
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"Any less than 40% to 45% 3 pt shooting won't get it done"
Luckily Cornell has six players who average over one 3 pointer made per game, and all 6 are over 40% from three for the season. That's an amazing statistic.
I'd guess the Cuse game was an anomaly given the season statistics. Plus, the Cuse game is great because it allowed them to have one game under their belts shooting with the weird backgrounds that can flummox other squads.
Luckily Cornell has six players who average over one 3 pointer made per game, and all 6 are over 40% from three for the season. That's an amazing statistic.
I'd guess the Cuse game was an anomaly given the season statistics. Plus, the Cuse game is great because it allowed them to have one game under their belts shooting with the weird backgrounds that can flummox other squads.
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