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    JFen31
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 9:18 AM ET #1

    2010-2011: 164-127
    2011-2012: 14-11-1 (+5.6 units)

    Had a great day yesterday going 5-2 with a money line win on Middle Tennessee. Not a very attractive card tonight, so just one play as of now:

    SE Missouri State +6 @ Bradley (1 unit)
    The Redhawks have been building their team in anticipation of making an OVC title run this season. Most preseason prognosticators have them finishing 3rd or 4th in the conference (behind AP, Murray, and Tennessee Tech), mainly on the strength of 3 now-eligible transfers. The frontcourt will have great depth this year with Missouri transfer Tyler Stone (6'8, 230) and Missouri State transfer Michael Porter (6'6, 235) joining forces with Leon Powell, the nation's leader in FG percentage in 2010-2011. Powell is on every 1st Team All-OVC list and just returned to action after an early-season injury, going 8-8 from the field against Harris-Stowe. He wasn't able to play in the Redhawks' opener at Missouri, but the team held its own and was quite competitive throughout the game, losing 83-68. The frontcourt should be a strength of the team all season, as even without Powell, the Redhawks only lost the rebounding battle to Missouri by 5 (35-30). The unit earned a rare "A" grade from Blue Ribbon. The backcourt also receives a boost with the addition of Ole Miss transfer Logan Nutt (6'1). He will join returning factor Nick Niemczyk, who was expected to be a major player last season but was lost to injury after 5 games. The other Nutt, Lucas, averaged double-figures last year as the starting point guard. This portion of the deep is also very deep and earned a B+ rating. SEMO entered this season with a lot of confidence, having made the OVC tournament for the first time in several years. Once there, they won a game and advanced to the semis before falling to eventual champ Morehead State.

    Bradley is quite a different story. The Braves lost 4 of their 5 leaders in minutes played off of last season's 12-20 ballclub. Bringing in Coach Geno Ford from Kent State was a major coup, but he inherits a roster short on talent. The team was supposed to be returning three starters, but 6'9 F/C Will Egolf tore his ACL in June and will miss the season. He was expected to provide stability inside. Taylor Brown, a 6'6 forward, now becomes the main frontcourt threat, having averaged 14.0 ppg two years ago before missing most of last year to illness. Teammate Jordan Prosser could be a valuable player, as well, having notched 17 rebounds in the opening win against UMKC. Bradley brings in five freshmen, a few of whom are being counted on for immediate contributions. Bradley struggled mightily with Summit League cellar-dweller UMKC in the opener, trailing 54-52 with 5:27 to play before going on a run to end the game.

    Based on talent and experience, SEMO appears to be the far better team. Bradley tends to play better at home, but it's hard to ignore the disparity between these two squads. SEMO has been accruing talent with this season in mind and now boasts tremendous depth throughout the roster. Bradley is short on talent and depth, and might not be playing its best basketball until much later this season.
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    2010-2011: 164-127
    2011-2012: 14-11-1 (+5.6 units)

    Had a great day yesterday going 5-2 with a money line win on Middle Tennessee. Not a very attractive card tonight, so just one play as of now:

    SE Missouri State +6 @ Bradley (1 unit)
    The Redhawks have been building their team in anticipation of making an OVC title run this season. Most preseason prognosticators have them finishing 3rd or 4th in the conference (behind AP, Murray, and Tennessee Tech), mainly on the strength of 3 now-eligible transfers. The frontcourt will have great depth this year with Missouri transfer Tyler Stone (6'8, 230) and Missouri State transfer Michael Porter (6'6, 235) joining forces with Leon Powell, the nation's leader in FG percentage in 2010-2011. Powell is on every 1st Team All-OVC list and just returned to action after an early-season injury, going 8-8 from the field against Harris-Stowe. He wasn't able to play in the Redhawks' opener at Missouri, but the team held its own and was quite competitive throughout the game, losing 83-68. The frontcourt should be a strength of the team all season, as even without Powell, the Redhawks only lost the rebounding battle to Missouri by 5 (35-30). The unit earned a rare "A" grade from Blue Ribbon. The backcourt also receives a boost with the addition of Ole Miss transfer Logan Nutt (6'1). He will join returning factor Nick Niemczyk, who was expected to be a major player last season but was lost to injury after 5 games. The other Nutt, Lucas, averaged double-figures last year as the starting point guard. This portion of the deep is also very deep and earned a B+ rating. SEMO entered this season with a lot of confidence, having made the OVC tournament for the first time in several years. Once there, they won a game and advanced to the semis before falling to eventual champ Morehead State.

    Bradley is quite a different story. The Braves lost 4 of their 5 leaders in minutes played off of last season's 12-20 ballclub. Bringing in Coach Geno Ford from Kent State was a major coup, but he inherits a roster short on talent. The team was supposed to be returning three starters, but 6'9 F/C Will Egolf tore his ACL in June and will miss the season. He was expected to provide stability inside. Taylor Brown, a 6'6 forward, now becomes the main frontcourt threat, having averaged 14.0 ppg two years ago before missing most of last year to illness. Teammate Jordan Prosser could be a valuable player, as well, having notched 17 rebounds in the opening win against UMKC. Bradley brings in five freshmen, a few of whom are being counted on for immediate contributions. Bradley struggled mightily with Summit League cellar-dweller UMKC in the opener, trailing 54-52 with 5:27 to play before going on a run to end the game.

    Based on talent and experience, SEMO appears to be the far better team. Bradley tends to play better at home, but it's hard to ignore the disparity between these two squads. SEMO has been accruing talent with this season in mind and now boasts tremendous depth throughout the roster. Bradley is short on talent and depth, and might not be playing its best basketball until much later this season.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 9:29 AM ET #2

    Good write up.  I just put in a 1 unit tail.

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    Good write up.  I just put in a 1 unit tail.

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 9:32 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 9:34 AM ET #4

    Like this pick as well...watched them play Mizzou earlier and they are pretty solid.  Took them against the Tigers...might take them here as well!
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    Like this pick as well...watched them play Mizzou earlier and they are pretty solid.  Took them against the Tigers...might take them here as well!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 9:36 AM ET #5

    BOL Jfen
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 10:33 AM ET #7

    Thanks guys.

    Starting to see a few 6.5's popping up at various books. I'll likely add another half-unit or full unit if it continues to rise throughout the day. Bradley will probably be a popular pick, so a better number might become available.

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    Thanks guys.

    Starting to see a few 6.5's popping up at various books. I'll likely add another half-unit or full unit if it continues to rise throughout the day. Bradley will probably be a popular pick, so a better number might become available.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 10:36 AM ET #8

    BOL JFen
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 12:45 PM ET #9

    hey Jfen

    did you watch this?

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    hey Jfen

    did you watch this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    2010-2011: 164-127
    2011-2012: 14-11-1 (+5.6 units)

    Had a great day yesterday going 5-2 with a money line win on Middle Tennessee. Not a very attractive card tonight, so just one play as of now:

    SE Missouri State +6 @ Bradley (1 unit)
    The Redhawks have been building their team in anticipation of making an OVC title run this season. Most preseason prognosticators have them finishing 3rd or 4th in the conference (behind AP, Murray, and Tennessee Tech), mainly on the strength of 3 now-eligible transfers. The frontcourt will have great depth this year with Missouri transfer Tyler Stone (6'8, 230) and Missouri State transfer Michael Porter (6'6, 235) joining forces with Leon Powell, the nation's leader in FG percentage in 2010-2011. Powell is on every 1st Team All-OVC list and just returned to action after an early-season injury, going 8-8 from the field against Harris-Stowe. He wasn't able to play in the Redhawks' opener at Missouri, but the team held its own and was quite competitive throughout the game, losing 83-68. The frontcourt should be a strength of the team all season, as even without Powell, the Redhawks only lost the rebounding battle to Missouri by 5 (35-30). The unit earned a rare "A" grade from Blue Ribbon. The backcourt also receives a boost with the addition of Ole Miss transfer Logan Nutt (6'1). He will join returning factor Nick Niemczyk, who was expected to be a major player last season but was lost to injury after 5 games. The other Nutt, Lucas, averaged double-figures last year as the starting point guard. This portion of the deep is also very deep and earned a B+ rating. SEMO entered this season with a lot of confidence, having made the OVC tournament for the first time in several years. Once there, they won a game and advanced to the semis before falling to eventual champ Morehead State.

    Bradley is quite a different story. The Braves lost 4 of their 5 leaders in minutes played off of last season's 12-20 ballclub. Bringing in Coach Geno Ford from Kent State was a major coup, but he inherits a roster short on talent. The team was supposed to be returning three starters, but 6'9 F/C Will Egolf tore his ACL in June and will miss the season. He was expected to provide stability inside. Taylor Brown, a 6'6 forward, now becomes the main frontcourt threat, having averaged 14.0 ppg two years ago before missing most of last year to illness. Teammate Jordan Prosser could be a valuable player, as well, having notched 17 rebounds in the opening win against UMKC. Bradley brings in five freshmen, a few of whom are being counted on for immediate contributions. Bradley struggled mightily with Summit League cellar-dweller UMKC in the opener, trailing 54-52 with 5:27 to play before going on a run to end the game.

    Based on talent and experience, SEMO appears to be the far better team. Bradley tends to play better at home, but it's hard to ignore the disparity between these two squads. SEMO has been accruing talent with this season in mind and now boasts tremendous depth throughout the roster. Bradley is short on talent and depth, and might not be playing its best basketball until much later this season.

    Great job on your analysis. Really enjoy reading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    2010-2011: 164-127
    2011-2012: 14-11-1 (+5.6 units)

    Had a great day yesterday going 5-2 with a money line win on Middle Tennessee. Not a very attractive card tonight, so just one play as of now:

    SE Missouri State +6 @ Bradley (1 unit)
    The Redhawks have been building their team in anticipation of making an OVC title run this season. Most preseason prognosticators have them finishing 3rd or 4th in the conference (behind AP, Murray, and Tennessee Tech), mainly on the strength of 3 now-eligible transfers. The frontcourt will have great depth this year with Missouri transfer Tyler Stone (6'8, 230) and Missouri State transfer Michael Porter (6'6, 235) joining forces with Leon Powell, the nation's leader in FG percentage in 2010-2011. Powell is on every 1st Team All-OVC list and just returned to action after an early-season injury, going 8-8 from the field against Harris-Stowe. He wasn't able to play in the Redhawks' opener at Missouri, but the team held its own and was quite competitive throughout the game, losing 83-68. The frontcourt should be a strength of the team all season, as even without Powell, the Redhawks only lost the rebounding battle to Missouri by 5 (35-30). The unit earned a rare "A" grade from Blue Ribbon. The backcourt also receives a boost with the addition of Ole Miss transfer Logan Nutt (6'1). He will join returning factor Nick Niemczyk, who was expected to be a major player last season but was lost to injury after 5 games. The other Nutt, Lucas, averaged double-figures last year as the starting point guard. This portion of the deep is also very deep and earned a B+ rating. SEMO entered this season with a lot of confidence, having made the OVC tournament for the first time in several years. Once there, they won a game and advanced to the semis before falling to eventual champ Morehead State.

    Bradley is quite a different story. The Braves lost 4 of their 5 leaders in minutes played off of last season's 12-20 ballclub. Bringing in Coach Geno Ford from Kent State was a major coup, but he inherits a roster short on talent. The team was supposed to be returning three starters, but 6'9 F/C Will Egolf tore his ACL in June and will miss the season. He was expected to provide stability inside. Taylor Brown, a 6'6 forward, now becomes the main frontcourt threat, having averaged 14.0 ppg two years ago before missing most of last year to illness. Teammate Jordan Prosser could be a valuable player, as well, having notched 17 rebounds in the opening win against UMKC. Bradley brings in five freshmen, a few of whom are being counted on for immediate contributions. Bradley struggled mightily with Summit League cellar-dweller UMKC in the opener, trailing 54-52 with 5:27 to play before going on a run to end the game.

    Based on talent and experience, SEMO appears to be the far better team. Bradley tends to play better at home, but it's hard to ignore the disparity between these two squads. SEMO has been accruing talent with this season in mind and now boasts tremendous depth throughout the roster. Bradley is short on talent and depth, and might not be playing its best basketball until much later this season.

    Great job on your analysis. Really enjoy reading it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:09 PM ET #12

    NBAFan- Interesting twist to the game, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it'll make. Both teams will need some time to adjust to the setting.

     

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    NBAFan- Interesting twist to the game, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it'll make. Both teams will need some time to adjust to the setting.

     

     
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    UT-San Antonio @ Oklahoma State Over 137 (1 unit)

    Tailing here, but the methodology and angle makes a great deal of sense.

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    UT-San Antonio @ Oklahoma State Over 137 (1 unit)

    Tailing here, but the methodology and angle makes a great deal of sense.

     
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    good luck jfen
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 1:55 PM ET #15

    glad to see someone else on this...love SE Missouri State here...on it at +7

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    glad to see someone else on this...love SE Missouri State here...on it at +7

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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 2:40 PM ET #16

    like the picks... what you think of our hawks tomorrow very weak gtech team with no Glen Rice JR!.... BOL THWND
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    like the picks... what you think of our hawks tomorrow very weak gtech team with no Glen Rice JR!.... BOL THWND
     
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    Thanks for the write-up & bol tonight..
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 3:01 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    UT-San Antonio @ Oklahoma State Over 137 (1 unit)

    Tailing here, but the methodology and angle makes a great deal of sense.

    info here?
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    UT-San Antonio @ Oklahoma State Over 137 (1 unit)

    Tailing here, but the methodology and angle makes a great deal of sense.

    info here?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 4:19 PM ET #19

    Like the SEMO play myself, im on it also. Found it at 7. Gltus
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    Like the SEMO play myself, im on it also. Found it at 7. Gltus
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 4:31 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by coolfool:

    info here?


    I for one, would not give ANY information to a moose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfool:

    info here?


    I for one, would not give ANY information to a moose.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 4:44 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkdoesntdie1:

    like the picks... what you think of our hawks tomorrow very weak gtech team with no Glen Rice JR!.... BOL THWND

    Great to see fellow Hawks on here. Current student? I'm anticipating a line somewhere around a PK but would feel comfortable taking SJU up to -3 or so. Should be a win, but I still don't completely trust this team. Talent-wise, though, it's not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkdoesntdie1:

    like the picks... what you think of our hawks tomorrow very weak gtech team with no Glen Rice JR!.... BOL THWND

    Great to see fellow Hawks on here. Current student? I'm anticipating a line somewhere around a PK but would feel comfortable taking SJU up to -3 or so. Should be a win, but I still don't completely trust this team. Talent-wise, though, it's not even close.

     
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    Thanks for the well wishes, guys.

    Looks like I got a good number on the OK State total. Lean to Hofstra +10 late tonight. Travel aside, not sure why the Pride is getting DD's here..

    Adding another half unit to my earlier play at a better number:

    SE Missouri St +7 @ Bradley (0.5 units)

     

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    Thanks for the well wishes, guys.

    Looks like I got a good number on the OK State total. Lean to Hofstra +10 late tonight. Travel aside, not sure why the Pride is getting DD's here..

    Adding another half unit to my earlier play at a better number:

    SE Missouri St +7 @ Bradley (0.5 units)

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2011 - 4:55 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by coolfool:

    info here?


    J-Fen and I are buds and exchange info (he has been hot you should study his methods) and I suggested the play.  I did not have time to write it up and now its 140 and climbing so I won't be posting it later as I obviously prefer it at 137.
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    J-Fen and I are buds and exchange info (he has been hot you should study his methods) and I suggested the play.  I did not have time to write it up and now its 140 and climbing so I won't be posting it later as I obviously prefer it at 137.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    Great to see fellow Hawks on here. Current student? I'm anticipating a line somewhere around a PK but would feel comfortable taking SJU up to -3 or so. Should be a win, but I still don't completely trust this team. Talent-wise, though, it's not even close.

    yessir .. where pretty close to where we wanna be this year. good luck with your plays
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    Great to see fellow Hawks on here. Current student? I'm anticipating a line somewhere around a PK but would feel comfortable taking SJU up to -3 or so. Should be a win, but I still don't completely trust this team. Talent-wise, though, it's not even close.

    yessir .. where pretty close to where we wanna be this year. good luck with your plays
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