Juiced yesterday w/ another ML loss. I will learn one day. Leans were 1-8. That is a good thing. Could have been a bad day. Got pretty much exactly what I wanted with the plays. UTEP sucked, which I was scared about the travel, but they shut CSU down from the 3-point line and forced 17 turnovers on them. Nova played a good 35 minutes of basketball and WVU hit their free throws for once. Pointed out that if the OSU under didn't cash it would be because they would stomp on Northwestern, that obviously happened. And Buffalo/Temple I was probably off on, although that game started out at a snail's pace before the ultimate scoring up and down lightswitch turned on.
As for Thursday's bloodbath:
Akron has a bit of revenge from a bracket-buster game two years ago, but the landscape in terms of personnel has changed a bit from that 70-53 VCU victory. A little history on Shaka - He was an assistant coach with Dambrot at Akron before Dambrot was chosen for the head job, with Shaka being the first assistant at that time for two years. Shaka knows everything Dambrot wants to do, and he has the personnel in place to combat it. There are a few things that take presidence in this matchup. Akron's without their starting PG, as he tore his MCL and it out for a month. They played without him last game against a cupcake, so this will be the first test without him. They haven't really played anyone for the better part of the last half of the month. Back to the PG slot, they don't really have a true PG to fill in. They have a few shooters, and they get a bit more size with the projected lineup, but they don't have a guy that is designed to distribute. Insert Briante Weber...again. If you read the VCU/Richmond analysis, you would have noticed the hard-on I get watching him from a defensive standpoint, and he'll be on whoever Akron runs at the PG slot here. And that's not a good thing. Aside from Weber, VCU has really come along defensively. They currently have three guards who are ranked in the top 150 out of around 3,850 in forcing turnovers. Akron not having a PG sort of makes matters worse here. When I look at Akron, they're built strong on the inside with Marshall, and a couple others, as a majority of their offense filters through the post. Here's the problem. Akron's playing extremely fast this year. They're playing more people than Dembrot generally plays and they're getting a bit more up and down. When you do that, you can't really focus on the inside game which is their strength. If you've watched VCU this year, they like to run when they get the chance and they should do that here in this game to take the bigs out of the mix. I've covered the guard defense, so let's take a look at the interior defense which will be needed here, and VCU has it. Both Reddic and Haley hit the board nationally in terms of rebounding defensively and block percentage, so I like the matchup there. This game really comes down to one thing in the end. VCU's guards don't turn the ball over, and at the same time they force turnovers and pressure like crazy. Akron's best offense filters through the post, but if your guards are being pressured out of position, how do you get the ball into the post? And if you get the ball into the post, do you struggle to score? Clearly, Akron has a big home court advantage and revenge, but with the matchups, and the fact that Shaka knows Dambrot like the back of his hand, along with the fact that the best defensive guard in the country will be guarding a guy who has no experience playing PG, this just sets itself up to be a disastrous spot for Akron. They have had trouble taking care of the ball in all of their losses, and that problem doesn't get any better when you have people playing out of position.
3* VCU -1
There will be more, lots.
GL
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November: 46-38, +5.20
November Leans: 39-38
December: 56-57, +2.20
December Leans: 55-61
Juiced yesterday w/ another ML loss. I will learn one day. Leans were 1-8. That is a good thing. Could have been a bad day. Got pretty much exactly what I wanted with the plays. UTEP sucked, which I was scared about the travel, but they shut CSU down from the 3-point line and forced 17 turnovers on them. Nova played a good 35 minutes of basketball and WVU hit their free throws for once. Pointed out that if the OSU under didn't cash it would be because they would stomp on Northwestern, that obviously happened. And Buffalo/Temple I was probably off on, although that game started out at a snail's pace before the ultimate scoring up and down lightswitch turned on.
As for Thursday's bloodbath:
Akron has a bit of revenge from a bracket-buster game two years ago, but the landscape in terms of personnel has changed a bit from that 70-53 VCU victory. A little history on Shaka - He was an assistant coach with Dambrot at Akron before Dambrot was chosen for the head job, with Shaka being the first assistant at that time for two years. Shaka knows everything Dambrot wants to do, and he has the personnel in place to combat it. There are a few things that take presidence in this matchup. Akron's without their starting PG, as he tore his MCL and it out for a month. They played without him last game against a cupcake, so this will be the first test without him. They haven't really played anyone for the better part of the last half of the month. Back to the PG slot, they don't really have a true PG to fill in. They have a few shooters, and they get a bit more size with the projected lineup, but they don't have a guy that is designed to distribute. Insert Briante Weber...again. If you read the VCU/Richmond analysis, you would have noticed the hard-on I get watching him from a defensive standpoint, and he'll be on whoever Akron runs at the PG slot here. And that's not a good thing. Aside from Weber, VCU has really come along defensively. They currently have three guards who are ranked in the top 150 out of around 3,850 in forcing turnovers. Akron not having a PG sort of makes matters worse here. When I look at Akron, they're built strong on the inside with Marshall, and a couple others, as a majority of their offense filters through the post. Here's the problem. Akron's playing extremely fast this year. They're playing more people than Dembrot generally plays and they're getting a bit more up and down. When you do that, you can't really focus on the inside game which is their strength. If you've watched VCU this year, they like to run when they get the chance and they should do that here in this game to take the bigs out of the mix. I've covered the guard defense, so let's take a look at the interior defense which will be needed here, and VCU has it. Both Reddic and Haley hit the board nationally in terms of rebounding defensively and block percentage, so I like the matchup there. This game really comes down to one thing in the end. VCU's guards don't turn the ball over, and at the same time they force turnovers and pressure like crazy. Akron's best offense filters through the post, but if your guards are being pressured out of position, how do you get the ball into the post? And if you get the ball into the post, do you struggle to score? Clearly, Akron has a big home court advantage and revenge, but with the matchups, and the fact that Shaka knows Dambrot like the back of his hand, along with the fact that the best defensive guard in the country will be guarding a guy who has no experience playing PG, this just sets itself up to be a disastrous spot for Akron. They have had trouble taking care of the ball in all of their losses, and that problem doesn't get any better when you have people playing out of position.
I won't be touching it, but I think you can take any Pac-12 team (outside of Utah), and find value catching points. Probably a conference I do not get into much at all this year.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
I agree 100%
You think the Bruins can beat Stanford?
I won't be touching it, but I think you can take any Pac-12 team (outside of Utah), and find value catching points. Probably a conference I do not get into much at all this year.
No interest in Florida or Rutgers. Although, I find it odd that both teams have played a much faster pace than in previous years. I'm curious to see if both keep up.
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No interest in Florida or Rutgers. Although, I find it odd that both teams have played a much faster pace than in previous years. I'm curious to see if both keep up.
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Any feelings on this game?
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NROPP, love your threads. Good Luck!
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
Lean: William & Mary/Miami OH Under 123.5
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Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Any feelings on this game?
I like your style. I'm hoping to post something on every game. Going in order of rotation #. Will get to it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Fools_Gold:
NROPP, love your threads. Good Luck!
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Any feelings on this game?
I like your style. I'm hoping to post something on every game. Going in order of rotation #. Will get to it.
Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
Lean: William & Mary/Miami OH Under 123.5
Iwill watch this line just because you spoke on it I will test my skills on this on and play it for shits and giggles and see if me and the gods are on the same side
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Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:
Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
Lean: William & Mary/Miami OH Under 123.5
Iwill watch this line just because you spoke on it I will test my skills on this on and play it for shits and giggles and see if me and the gods are on the same side
Wisconsin Green Bay's offense blows goats. They run everything through the big guy in the post, so in games where they'll struggle to get it into him, they will more than likely lose. Speaking of, check out the upcoming schedule:
at Butler
at Vaplo
at Wisky MKE
Detroit
Wright State
at Cleveland State
The road trip's tough, just for the fact that they're playing teams who pose a threat offensively. The home games aren't easy either, and then a trip to Cleveland State. That's probably 5 of the top 6 Horizon teams they play b2b2b2b2b2b. I won't classify Wright State as one of those 6, but they way they defend, they should pose a threat to Wisky GB.
Butler's in a letdown spot, but not sure how big it is. Also have Wisky MKE on deck, who owned them in both regular season meetings last year.
No interest here. Thinking Butler makes a run at the Horizon title, but need to see something before diving in.
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Wisconsin Green Bay's offense blows goats. They run everything through the big guy in the post, so in games where they'll struggle to get it into him, they will more than likely lose. Speaking of, check out the upcoming schedule:
at Butler
at Vaplo
at Wisky MKE
Detroit
Wright State
at Cleveland State
The road trip's tough, just for the fact that they're playing teams who pose a threat offensively. The home games aren't easy either, and then a trip to Cleveland State. That's probably 5 of the top 6 Horizon teams they play b2b2b2b2b2b. I won't classify Wright State as one of those 6, but they way they defend, they should pose a threat to Wisky GB.
Butler's in a letdown spot, but not sure how big it is. Also have Wisky MKE on deck, who owned them in both regular season meetings last year.
No interest here. Thinking Butler makes a run at the Horizon title, but need to see something before diving in.
I just got done looking at VCU/Akron. I saw VCU in person at Alabama and was very impressed with their length and athleticsim. I was worried about post scoring from Akron but after reading your writeup I will hit on my initial lean and play VCU.
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I just got done looking at VCU/Akron. I saw VCU in person at Alabama and was very impressed with their length and athleticsim. I was worried about post scoring from Akron but after reading your writeup I will hit on my initial lean and play VCU.
Yale has had 11 days off. Columbia had 18 days off prior to going to Marist and losing by 20 as a 3 point favorite. They also have Florida on tap. Wake Forest still has lacked a defense, and while the offense has decent #'s, it's primarily b/c they're still playing fast. Yale doesn't mind going up and down, so this one's a coinflip. WF better offense, Yale better defense. Want me to talk you off of Wake Forest? They gave up:
72 to Georgia Southern (who has only scored more than 60 in one game in December)
79 to North Carolina Central (who is averaging 61 a game in December)
84 to Arizona State (their season high)
83 to High Point (Ok, High Point actually has a good offense b/c they shoot a ton of three's, but still, it's High Point)
78 to NC Wilmington (their season high)
Wake Forest's defense can't be trusted. Leaning Yale, but hate the IVY time off.
Lean: Yale +4
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Yale has had 11 days off. Columbia had 18 days off prior to going to Marist and losing by 20 as a 3 point favorite. They also have Florida on tap. Wake Forest still has lacked a defense, and while the offense has decent #'s, it's primarily b/c they're still playing fast. Yale doesn't mind going up and down, so this one's a coinflip. WF better offense, Yale better defense. Want me to talk you off of Wake Forest? They gave up:
72 to Georgia Southern (who has only scored more than 60 in one game in December)
79 to North Carolina Central (who is averaging 61 a game in December)
84 to Arizona State (their season high)
83 to High Point (Ok, High Point actually has a good offense b/c they shoot a ton of three's, but still, it's High Point)
78 to NC Wilmington (their season high)
Wake Forest's defense can't be trusted. Leaning Yale, but hate the IVY time off.
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Any feelings on this game?
Yah, I'm not going to have any interest in this one, but I think you're on the right wavelength. The thing that would concern me is if Boston College plays zone, then Harvard lights em up. If Umass can score 82, Penn State can score 62, and Boston can score 75, then no reason Harvard can't equal that. Kicker is how well BC shoots, and if they can bring in the recent confidence of having a 3 game win streak over nobodies. Looks like they have picked up the pace in recent weeks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Rhode Island/Boston College game is a decent rivalry or has been in recent years, and BC has them on deck. Something to consider with a letdown.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by Fools_Gold:
NROPP, love your threads. Good Luck!
I'm leaning toward the UNDER 125.5 in Harvard-BC Game....
Feel like Harvard plays such excellent D and will dictate the pace... Can't see BC having more than like 52-53... and it's not like Harvard is lighting up the gym..even if they hit 70 in a blowout it still stays under....
Any feelings on this game?
Yah, I'm not going to have any interest in this one, but I think you're on the right wavelength. The thing that would concern me is if Boston College plays zone, then Harvard lights em up. If Umass can score 82, Penn State can score 62, and Boston can score 75, then no reason Harvard can't equal that. Kicker is how well BC shoots, and if they can bring in the recent confidence of having a 3 game win streak over nobodies. Looks like they have picked up the pace in recent weeks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Rhode Island/Boston College game is a decent rivalry or has been in recent years, and BC has them on deck. Something to consider with a letdown.
Penn State and Michigan both rank top 40 in three-point attempts. Just not worth it as neither one of them defend it well either. Game should be a snail, but big risk/small reward with the three point attempts that get put up.
Last year's meeting landed on 127 and you had 47 three's attempted.
The other meeting last year landed on 145 and had 41 three's attempted.
Two years ago, the total landed on 106 and had 41 three's attempted.
Not worth my time figuring out which team's three's go in the hole.
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Penn State and Michigan both rank top 40 in three-point attempts. Just not worth it as neither one of them defend it well either. Game should be a snail, but big risk/small reward with the three point attempts that get put up.
Last year's meeting landed on 127 and you had 47 three's attempted.
The other meeting last year landed on 145 and had 41 three's attempted.
Two years ago, the total landed on 106 and had 41 three's attempted.
Not worth my time figuring out which team's three's go in the hole.
Georgia Tech favored by 7.5 on the road is sort of a scary proposition, and a spot I will leave off at for the night. Fordham's offense is brutal bad. For as fast as they play, you got a 50 point total against St. John's, a 47 against Manhattan's pressure, a 65 against Monmouth's defense which is ranked #331 in the country, and I'll stop there. Georgia Tech's the toughest defense they'll face from a scheme standpoint on the year, so not sure it's worth the risk. Yes, they faced Syracuse, but you can chuck three's at will, which is what they did attempting 21 of them. They don't generally shoot that many, so tough sledding against the GT defense. Key ingredient in this matchup is if GT looks ahead to the matchup with Bama. Then again, a look ahead might not hurt against the Fordham offense.
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Georgia Tech favored by 7.5 on the road is sort of a scary proposition, and a spot I will leave off at for the night. Fordham's offense is brutal bad. For as fast as they play, you got a 50 point total against St. John's, a 47 against Manhattan's pressure, a 65 against Monmouth's defense which is ranked #331 in the country, and I'll stop there. Georgia Tech's the toughest defense they'll face from a scheme standpoint on the year, so not sure it's worth the risk. Yes, they faced Syracuse, but you can chuck three's at will, which is what they did attempting 21 of them. They don't generally shoot that many, so tough sledding against the GT defense. Key ingredient in this matchup is if GT looks ahead to the matchup with Bama. Then again, a look ahead might not hurt against the Fordham offense.
Really like WKU tomorrow versus a team that has no talent, no identity and no idea how to win. There will be no crowd, expecting around 250 people and WKU arrived a day early so travel shouldn't be a problem. Have seen ULM multiple times and just can't see them winning this one.
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Really like WKU tomorrow versus a team that has no talent, no identity and no idea how to win. There will be no crowd, expecting around 250 people and WKU arrived a day early so travel shouldn't be a problem. Have seen ULM multiple times and just can't see them winning this one.
Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
Lean: William & Mary/Miami OH Under 123.5
this literally made me laugh out loud, as i just finished looking at this game and was thinking the same thing.
and I might have the balls to Bet on William and mary fade miami OH.
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Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:
Who has the balls to take William & Mary at Miami OH? They just got done welcoming "darling" Iona into their home court and put up a decent effort, celebrated the Holiday, play a non-conference game here with Miami OH, then go to a big look ahead at George Mason. Bit of a sandwich spot. And, they're only D-1 victory came over Liberty, by 1 point. They lost at Hampton by 15, which is a similar defensive style they'll be playing tonight.
Then again, who has the balls to trust Miami OH to cover a double digit spread with that offense? They've played two of the worst defenses in the country in SEMO and Troy, and they only put up 60 and 57 in those games. They also have a look ahead to Vanderbilt.
Two of the slowest teams in the country, with tons of variables put into play that only makes them worse. I lean to the under. But, I'm not playing it because both teams attempt three-pointers like they're playing hot-potato.
Lean: William & Mary/Miami OH Under 123.5
this literally made me laugh out loud, as i just finished looking at this game and was thinking the same thing.
and I might have the balls to Bet on William and mary fade miami OH.
Neil what's your take on the match-up between Air Force and Wagner? Wagner could be in a let down game after the big win over Pitt. Air Force has played tough against 3 quality teams in their loses (2 of them on the road). I just can't see Wagner coming in and blowing Air Force out of the water. I haven't seen Wagner play yet, but I watched Air Force recently against Zags, and the game was close for most of the game. Are there any type of match-up problems Wagner bring to AFA, or is there value in Air Force +7.5 @ home?
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Neil what's your take on the match-up between Air Force and Wagner? Wagner could be in a let down game after the big win over Pitt. Air Force has played tough against 3 quality teams in their loses (2 of them on the road). I just can't see Wagner coming in and blowing Air Force out of the water. I haven't seen Wagner play yet, but I watched Air Force recently against Zags, and the game was close for most of the game. Are there any type of match-up problems Wagner bring to AFA, or is there value in Air Force +7.5 @ home?
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