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    sharpstick
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:21 AM ET #1

    Auburn basketball is currently being investigated by the FBI for point shaving this season.

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    Auburn basketball is currently being investigated by the FBI for point shaving this season.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #2

    they should. i remember their game against florida i think a few weeks ago...up big at the half then suddenly forgot how to play basketball in the 2nd...
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    they should. i remember their game against florida i think a few weeks ago...up big at the half then suddenly forgot how to play basketball in the 2nd...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #3

    oh boy
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    oh boy
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #4

    there a link?

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    there a link?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #5

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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:25 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharukh10:

    there a link?


    This is information that won't be broken for a few weeks.  NCAA severely trying to keep it under wraps.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharukh10:

    there a link?


    This is information that won't be broken for a few weeks.  NCAA severely trying to keep it under wraps.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:26 AM ET #7

    If anybody has any information on the Auburn team, was there a player removed from the team, or just benched midway thru the season?

    The scandal involves the beginning of the season.
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    If anybody has any information on the Auburn team, was there a player removed from the team, or just benched midway thru the season?

    The scandal involves the beginning of the season.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:31 AM ET #8

    ED Carlino is the worst and slowest player I ve ever seen in college hoops 
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    ED Carlino is the worst and slowest player I ve ever seen in college hoops 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:32 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    This is information that won't be broken for a few weeks.  NCAA severely trying to keep it under wraps.  

    So is it safe to say then the only logical assumption would be that you are part of the NCAA or were leaked secret information by them?

    Was already looking at LSU for tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    This is information that won't be broken for a few weeks.  NCAA severely trying to keep it under wraps.  

    So is it safe to say then the only logical assumption would be that you are part of the NCAA or were leaked secret information by them?

    Was already looking at LSU for tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:38 AM ET #10

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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 1:50 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    If anybody has any information on the Auburn team, was there a player removed from the team, or just benched midway thru the season?

    The scandal involves the beginning of the season.

     

    Yes they are Verez Ward and Chris Denson, Ward is a Transfer from UTEP that came along with Barbee (Calipari Disciple). I think Ward was suspended after the Florida game )for undisclosed reasons)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    If anybody has any information on the Auburn team, was there a player removed from the team, or just benched midway thru the season?

    The scandal involves the beginning of the season.

     

    Yes they are Verez Ward and Chris Denson, Ward is a Transfer from UTEP that came along with Barbee (Calipari Disciple). I think Ward was suspended after the Florida game )for undisclosed reasons)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 2:42 AM ET #12

    I believe it.

    I had them at home vs Bama a few weeks back.

    needed them to cover 4 or something. they were up at half then all of a sudden they forgot how to score......
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    I believe it.

    I had them at home vs Bama a few weeks back.

    needed them to cover 4 or something. they were up at half then all of a sudden they forgot how to score......
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 3:24 AM ET #13

    When there done with that investigation they should get on a plane an head right to hawaii to investigate them
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    When there done with that investigation they should get on a plane an head right to hawaii to investigate them
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 4:11 AM ET #14

    I remember their first 5 or so games didn't have lines.  I was surprised because even though they weren't ranked high I figured they're an SEC program and had to have some talent.  Anyway, they were blowing teams out early on, but they were mostly against garbage schools like Kennesaw St.

    I slammed them on their first lined gamed against Seton Hall as an 8.5 pt dog and lost horribly. 

    Second, looking over their record, nothing really looks suspicious.  They lost games as a big dog and didn't cover some of them.  I don't see how an inferior team getting points has any control over shaving points or how much they lose by.  Common sense and history show that in point shaving scandals usually it's the better team getting points controlling how much they win by, whether they cover a spread or not.  

    The only game that stands out is on 12/30 against Georgia Southern where they were a 12.5 favorite and won by 3, but other than that, they've played as a dog, or a small favorite in tight games.   

    It'll be interesting to see what games in particular the FBI is looking at.

    But now maybe it sheds some light as to why 6 of their first 8 games didn't have lines, maybe Vegas caught wind of some shady plot and didn't want to get burned.
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    I remember their first 5 or so games didn't have lines.  I was surprised because even though they weren't ranked high I figured they're an SEC program and had to have some talent.  Anyway, they were blowing teams out early on, but they were mostly against garbage schools like Kennesaw St.

    I slammed them on their first lined gamed against Seton Hall as an 8.5 pt dog and lost horribly. 

    Second, looking over their record, nothing really looks suspicious.  They lost games as a big dog and didn't cover some of them.  I don't see how an inferior team getting points has any control over shaving points or how much they lose by.  Common sense and history show that in point shaving scandals usually it's the better team getting points controlling how much they win by, whether they cover a spread or not.  

    The only game that stands out is on 12/30 against Georgia Southern where they were a 12.5 favorite and won by 3, but other than that, they've played as a dog, or a small favorite in tight games.   

    It'll be interesting to see what games in particular the FBI is looking at.

    But now maybe it sheds some light as to why 6 of their first 8 games didn't have lines, maybe Vegas caught wind of some shady plot and didn't want to get burned.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 7:21 AM ET #15

    they didn't have lines because they were playing severe scrubs..like DII teams and stuff 

    and vegas will always tip off something they don't have control over 
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    they didn't have lines because they were playing severe scrubs..like DII teams and stuff 

    and vegas will always tip off something they don't have control over 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:03 PM ET #16

    https://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7662296/fbi-investigatin-auburn-tigers-varez-ward-point-shaving-according-report


    https://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=267448



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    https://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7662296/fbi-investigatin-auburn-tigers-varez-ward-point-shaving-according-report


    https://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=267448



     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:04 PM ET #17

    Sharp, got any leans today?
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    Sharp, got any leans today?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:06 PM ET #18

    Illinois should be investigated as well, WEBER is NOT involved, but them god damn players should be under the gun ! No way they are that bad or stupid !
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    Illinois should be investigated as well, WEBER is NOT involved, but them god damn players should be under the gun ! No way they are that bad or stupid !
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:07 PM ET #19

    Who do we contact to get our money back???
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    Who do we contact to get our money back???
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:08 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by reh800:

    Sharp, got any leans today?

    I played UNLV +125 to win the tourney

    As far as today, I will be on TCU +4, very small though.  I think these lines are all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reh800:

    Sharp, got any leans today?

    I played UNLV +125 to win the tourney

    As far as today, I will be on TCU +4, very small though.  I think these lines are all good.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:09 PM ET #21

    hopefully they shave tonight i got miss -4
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    hopefully they shave tonight i got miss -4
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:12 PM ET #22

    FBI will hop on the plane and have a little nice vacation next....HAWAII.!

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    FBI will hop on the plane and have a little nice vacation next....HAWAII.!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:13 PM ET #23

    I wonder if Vegas knew about such thing??

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    I wonder if Vegas knew about such thing??

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:13 PM ET #24

    this means auburn or no play.. 
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    this means auburn or no play.. 
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2012 - 5:45 PM ET #25

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