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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:33 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    Sounds pretty good, but I'm not sold that line moves with public money. Sometimes that is smart money moving the line, especially late.

    The real value might just be that you're getting 1.5+ points from the opener. But the opener may have been very wrong and smart money moved it very quickly.

    If line movement was always the result of public money and not smart money, then we'd have something.

    Maybe a line that moves after the initial "smart" move is public money and if it goes back to the opening or initial "smart" move line it is smart money late.

    I once ran a lot of stats on line movement - early, middle and late and I could not find a good % system to play. That was NFL.

    GL

    I agree with most of what you just said Barn,,,for some reason this system has worked for a couple years...maybe just getting lucky, but who knows.

    Also remember this is only a 7 -8 week system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    Sounds pretty good, but I'm not sold that line moves with public money. Sometimes that is smart money moving the line, especially late.

    The real value might just be that you're getting 1.5+ points from the opener. But the opener may have been very wrong and smart money moved it very quickly.

    If line movement was always the result of public money and not smart money, then we'd have something.

    Maybe a line that moves after the initial "smart" move is public money and if it goes back to the opening or initial "smart" move line it is smart money late.

    I once ran a lot of stats on line movement - early, middle and late and I could not find a good % system to play. That was NFL.

    GL

    I agree with most of what you just said Barn,,,for some reason this system has worked for a couple years...maybe just getting lucky, but who knows.

    Also remember this is only a 7 -8 week system.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:46 PM ET #27

    WEDNESDAY 01-19

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs Rhode Island..............7:30 ET

    There is another game that fits, but I don't want to bet on a last place team that looks real bad right now.

    GL2us

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    WEDNESDAY 01-19

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs Rhode Island..............7:30 ET

    There is another game that fits, but I don't want to bet on a last place team that looks real bad right now.

    GL2us

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #28

    what bout cinci
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #29

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #30

    *** I know Fordham's not the best team, but they are playing VS a team with aprox the same record.

     

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:50 PM ET #31

    I'm gonna look...last i saw was only 1pt

     

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #32

    I have a different opener on CINC but everyone has to use their own service and discretion Gotta go.

    ttyl

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    I have a different opener on CINC but everyone has to use their own service and discretion Gotta go.

    ttyl

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    WEDNESDAY 01-19

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs Rhode Island..............7:30 ET

    There is another game that fits, but I don't want to bet on a last place team that looks real bad right now.

    GL2us

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    Fordham are playing St.Louis...Does that change things?
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    WEDNESDAY 01-19

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs Rhode Island..............7:30 ET

    There is another game that fits, but I don't want to bet on a last place team that looks real bad right now.

    GL2us

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    Fordham are playing St.Louis...Does that change things?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2011 - 7:02 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by webba:



    Fordham are playing St.Louis...Does that change things?

    OOOOPS>>>>RI is playing ST Joe, who I was looking at, but can't play.

    Sorry guys...that was really stupid.

    Thanks Webba..

     

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs ST L..............7:30 ET

     

    is the play

     

    Thanks Webba

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    Fordham are playing St.Louis...Does that change things?

    OOOOPS>>>>RI is playing ST Joe, who I was looking at, but can't play.

    Sorry guys...that was really stupid.

    Thanks Webba..

     

    #778 FORDHAM +6 vs ST L..............7:30 ET

     

    is the play

     

    Thanks Webba

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2011 - 7:35 AM ET #35

    Fordham loses by 12.

    They were down 6 at the half...but actually took the lead with about 12 minutes left...I went and watched a movie(Hot Tub Time Machine) feelin pretty good.

    But STL musta went on a big run.

    Hot Tub Time Machine also started out good and ran outa gas. One depressing thing about that movie was Chevy Chase. Man is that guy not funny or what ? Jeez, he was bad....stuttering and inaudible at times The movie was good tho...for about the first 3/4 of the way ...but, like Fordham, it had a very dissapointing end.

    2.5 stars out of 4 possible.

    Fordham....0 stars.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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    Fordham loses by 12.

    They were down 6 at the half...but actually took the lead with about 12 minutes left...I went and watched a movie(Hot Tub Time Machine) feelin pretty good.

    But STL musta went on a big run.

    Hot Tub Time Machine also started out good and ran outa gas. One depressing thing about that movie was Chevy Chase. Man is that guy not funny or what ? Jeez, he was bad....stuttering and inaudible at times The movie was good tho...for about the first 3/4 of the way ...but, like Fordham, it had a very dissapointing end.

    2.5 stars out of 4 possible.

    Fordham....0 stars.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2011 - 6:35 PM ET #36

    THURSDAY 01-20-11

    7:00 ET

    Fla International opened at -2...now at -3.5

    Today's play...

    #511 ARKANSAS Little Rock +3.5

    system record 2-2

     

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    THURSDAY 01-20-11

    7:00 ET

    Fla International opened at -2...now at -3.5

    Today's play...

    #511 ARKANSAS Little Rock +3.5

    system record 2-2

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2011 - 9:03 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    THURSDAY 01-20-11

    7:00 ET

    Fla International opened at -2...now at -3.5

    Today's play...

    #511 ARKANSAS Little Rock +3.5

    system record 2-2

     

    FINAL

    ARK L/R 78

    FLA INT 70

    straight up M/L winner

    HAWAII was almost a play for latenight but the # just moved to -2.5

    updated record...3-2

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    THURSDAY 01-20-11

    7:00 ET

    Fla International opened at -2...now at -3.5

    Today's play...

    #511 ARKANSAS Little Rock +3.5

    system record 2-2

     

    FINAL

    ARK L/R 78

    FLA INT 70

    straight up M/L winner

    HAWAII was almost a play for latenight but the # just moved to -2.5

    updated record...3-2

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2011 - 8:21 PM ET #38

    FRIDAY 01-21-11

    9:00 ET

    OPENING LINE>>>>Sienna @ St Peters(=2.5)

    The play>>>>>>>>>ST PETERS  pickem

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    FRIDAY 01-21-11

    9:00 ET

    OPENING LINE>>>>Sienna @ St Peters(=2.5)

    The play>>>>>>>>>ST PETERS  pickem

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2011 - 9:00 PM ET #39

    lookin at the game>ST PETE ..the old doormat of league>>>>>is now 5-1 at haome while their opponent struggles on the road.

    Linemakers used ST PETE as opening 2.5 fav>>>public bets it down.

     

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    lookin at the game>ST PETE ..the old doormat of league>>>>>is now 5-1 at haome while their opponent struggles on the road.

    Linemakers used ST PETE as opening 2.5 fav>>>public bets it down.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2011 - 9:05 PM ET #40

    ....or did the sharps bet it down ???

    Remember this....

    ...the sharps go on bad runs too.

     

     

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    Remember this....

    ...the sharps go on bad runs too.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2011 - 10:15 PM ET #41

    PETE'S up 10 at the half.

    It's far 4 from over...but it's more comforting to be up 10 than down 10.

    I'm sure there will be a couple sysytem plays tomorrow.

    See ya then.

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    PETE'S up 10 at the half.

    It's far 4 from over...but it's more comforting to be up 10 than down 10.

    I'm sure there will be a couple sysytem plays tomorrow.

    See ya then.

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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 12:48 AM ET #42

    Well, THE SYSTEM gives me another easy W...as St Pete wins by 8.

    Wish I would hit Hawaii last night, but anyways...

    Updated record...4-2

     

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    Well, THE SYSTEM gives me another easy W...as St Pete wins by 8.

    Wish I would hit Hawaii last night, but anyways...

    Updated record...4-2

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 12:43 PM ET #43

    Just woke up>>>Missed an early game... ILLINI...

    ...LSU would qualify , but they have a scorer and a rebounder out >>>2 injuries>>> that made the line move, thus cancelling the play.

    Also MARIST would qualify , but like I said earlier...I dont ask a bad team to win for me...and Marist"s record is something like 4-15...so they are out.

    So, incredibly...I GOT  NOTHIN going at the moment.

    I have a busy Saturday, so keep an eye out.

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    Just woke up>>>Missed an early game... ILLINI...

    ...LSU would qualify , but they have a scorer and a rebounder out >>>2 injuries>>> that made the line move, thus cancelling the play.

    Also MARIST would qualify , but like I said earlier...I dont ask a bad team to win for me...and Marist"s record is something like 4-15...so they are out.

    So, incredibly...I GOT  NOTHIN going at the moment.

    I have a busy Saturday, so keep an eye out.

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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 12:55 PM ET #44

    SATURDAY 01-22-11

    #567 ST BONNIE +4.5 @ GWash....2:00 ET

     

     

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    #567 ST BONNIE +4.5 @ GWash....2:00 ET

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 12:57 PM ET #45

    #681 LOYOLA MARYMOUNT +1.5 (BUYING TO +2 (-120)) @pepperdine....10:00 PM ET
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 1:23 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    SATURDAY 01-22-11

    #567 ST BONNIE +4.5 @ GWash....2:00 ET

    Straight Up Dog Winner.

    I believe that is the 3rd S-U-D-W out of our 5 wins.

     

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    SATURDAY 01-22-11

    #567 ST BONNIE +4.5 @ GWash....2:00 ET

    Straight Up Dog Winner.

    I believe that is the 3rd S-U-D-W out of our 5 wins.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    #681 LOYOLA MARYMOUNT +1.5 (BUYING TO +2 (-120)) @pepperdine....10:00 PM ET

    What a heartbreaking loss....All 3 of the System losses have been tough losses....and all 5 wins have been fairly easy.

    Updated record 5-3

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    #681 LOYOLA MARYMOUNT +1.5 (BUYING TO +2 (-120)) @pepperdine....10:00 PM ET

    What a heartbreaking loss....All 3 of the System losses have been tough losses....and all 5 wins have been fairly easy.

    Updated record 5-3

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 8:34 PM ET #48

    Nice system JW.

    Does your sportbook allow to buy 3 points? Seems like you should continue betting your games, but buy 3 points for insurance. You would be 8-0.

    Good luck bud.

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    Nice system JW.

    Does your sportbook allow to buy 3 points? Seems like you should continue betting your games, but buy 3 points for insurance. You would be 8-0.

    Good luck bud.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 10:14 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningsport:

    Nice system JW.

    Does your sportbook allow to buy 3 points? Seems like you should continue betting your games, but buy 3 points for insurance. You would be 8-0.

    Good luck bud.

    Ya TW ,I can buy 3 points.

    I'm not big on laying that kinda juice tho...but that's just me.

    I think I'd be 7-1 or at least 6-2 if I were playing them 1st H.

    I will go another week and then adjust accordingly.

    Thanks for the post.Wasn't sure if I was the only one looking at it or not.

    jw11

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningsport:

    Nice system JW.

    Does your sportbook allow to buy 3 points? Seems like you should continue betting your games, but buy 3 points for insurance. You would be 8-0.

    Good luck bud.

    Ya TW ,I can buy 3 points.

    I'm not big on laying that kinda juice tho...but that's just me.

    I think I'd be 7-1 or at least 6-2 if I were playing them 1st H.

    I will go another week and then adjust accordingly.

    Thanks for the post.Wasn't sure if I was the only one looking at it or not.

    jw11

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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2011 - 4:35 PM ET #50

    Looks like THREE spots tonight...

     

    737 FURMAN  
    738 WOFFORD  -5 .....  -6.5  

     

       

     

     

     

    739 MOREHEAD STATE

     
    740 BALL STATE  -3  ........   

    -1.5 

       

     

     

     

     

    741 RIDER -1.5

     

     

     
    742 SIENA       -1.5    

     

    FURMAN+6.5

    BALL ST -1.5

    RIDER +1.5

     

    (I'm buying 1/2 points on all...but won't use those towards system record....)

    GL2us

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    Looks like THREE spots tonight...

     

    737 FURMAN  
    738 WOFFORD  -5 .....  -6.5  

     

       

     

     

     

    739 MOREHEAD STATE

     
    740 BALL STATE  -3  ........   

    -1.5 

       

     

     

     

     

    741 RIDER -1.5

     

     

     
    742 SIENA       -1.5    

     

    FURMAN+6.5

    BALL ST -1.5

    RIDER +1.5

     

    (I'm buying 1/2 points on all...but won't use those towards system record....)

    GL2us

    jw11

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