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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 1:51 AM ET #1

    Very strong play tonight on the Dayton Flyers -4 against Seton Hall.

    There are three major reason for the play here (all have been extraordinary winning angles for me over the years, but when combined are rare and Low Post worthy.) Many of my best posts on Covers CBB boards have been from these types of situations.

    Reason (1)...this is the first away game of the year of the year for Seton Hall.... and Dayton is a very difficult venue for road teams to play their first away game of the year. 

    Dayton's last 191 regular season home games have had attendance of at least 11,000 fans per game. In the last 15 years, 99% of UD’s home games have drawn at least 10,000 (that is 430 out of 433 home games) including the last 229 regular season games in a row.

    Over the last six years on Dayton's Tom Blackburn Court, the Flyers are 83-12. The 83 victories are the eighth-most in the NCAA since the 2006-07 season. Just ahead of Dayton are Ohio State (96), Kansas (95), Syracuse (91), Pittsburgh (91), Texas A&M (88), UNLV (87) and Florida (86). Dayton won its 500th game at UD Arena on Dec. 29, 2009 and is 525-188 in 41 seasons at the Arena. The Flyers have a home all-time winning percentage of .780 (782-220).

    Take all that into account and add the fact that Seton Hall has played no road games at all in their 9-1 record this year. Last year, the Pirates faced five A-10 opponents going 1-4 with a win at UMass and losses to Temple, Xavier, Dayton and Richmond. ADVANTAGE DAYTON.

    Reason (2) The road game will really hurt the Pirates, who have have very little depth on the bench and a true Freshman Guard Aaron Cosby who has already been flustered  this season, even in his home games (see the St. Francis game). A Freshman Guards first career road game is usually a diaster on a court like Dayton's. This game will be no different. Always fade freshman guards in their first ever college road game starts in spots like Dayton. Cosby, in his brief career as a Seton Hall Guard, is only averaging 1.3 assists per game, Yikes! ADAVNTAGE DAYTON.

    Reason (3) Seton Hall has no bench depth players and if they get into foul trouble often. If either Pope or Theodore get into foul trouble at dayton, Seton Hall is in deep trouble. On the road these two players will have to be nearly perfect with a freshman guard on the floor and no substitutes that can replace their minutes. They can'y get frustrated by calls, the crowd and each other. So far this year the have been able to battle though some lulls at home, but in a tough road venue it's not going to be easy. MAJOR ADVANTAGE DAYTON.

    This line opened at Dayton -6 and was quickly bet down  to -4 by early Seton Hall backers. Find it tough to believe anyone could easily go against Dayton's 83-12 record the past two years and has a more depth, talent and experience.

    Dayton runs away with this one in a double digit blowout, Lay the 4 points. Good Luck!
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    Very strong play tonight on the Dayton Flyers -4 against Seton Hall.

    There are three major reason for the play here (all have been extraordinary winning angles for me over the years, but when combined are rare and Low Post worthy.) Many of my best posts on Covers CBB boards have been from these types of situations.

    Reason (1)...this is the first away game of the year of the year for Seton Hall.... and Dayton is a very difficult venue for road teams to play their first away game of the year. 

    Dayton's last 191 regular season home games have had attendance of at least 11,000 fans per game. In the last 15 years, 99% of UD’s home games have drawn at least 10,000 (that is 430 out of 433 home games) including the last 229 regular season games in a row.

    Over the last six years on Dayton's Tom Blackburn Court, the Flyers are 83-12. The 83 victories are the eighth-most in the NCAA since the 2006-07 season. Just ahead of Dayton are Ohio State (96), Kansas (95), Syracuse (91), Pittsburgh (91), Texas A&M (88), UNLV (87) and Florida (86). Dayton won its 500th game at UD Arena on Dec. 29, 2009 and is 525-188 in 41 seasons at the Arena. The Flyers have a home all-time winning percentage of .780 (782-220).

    Take all that into account and add the fact that Seton Hall has played no road games at all in their 9-1 record this year. Last year, the Pirates faced five A-10 opponents going 1-4 with a win at UMass and losses to Temple, Xavier, Dayton and Richmond. ADVANTAGE DAYTON.

    Reason (2) The road game will really hurt the Pirates, who have have very little depth on the bench and a true Freshman Guard Aaron Cosby who has already been flustered  this season, even in his home games (see the St. Francis game). A Freshman Guards first career road game is usually a diaster on a court like Dayton's. This game will be no different. Always fade freshman guards in their first ever college road game starts in spots like Dayton. Cosby, in his brief career as a Seton Hall Guard, is only averaging 1.3 assists per game, Yikes! ADAVNTAGE DAYTON.

    Reason (3) Seton Hall has no bench depth players and if they get into foul trouble often. If either Pope or Theodore get into foul trouble at dayton, Seton Hall is in deep trouble. On the road these two players will have to be nearly perfect with a freshman guard on the floor and no substitutes that can replace their minutes. They can'y get frustrated by calls, the crowd and each other. So far this year the have been able to battle though some lulls at home, but in a tough road venue it's not going to be easy. MAJOR ADVANTAGE DAYTON.

    This line opened at Dayton -6 and was quickly bet down  to -4 by early Seton Hall backers. Find it tough to believe anyone could easily go against Dayton's 83-12 record the past two years and has a more depth, talent and experience.

    Dayton runs away with this one in a double digit blowout, Lay the 4 points. Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 2:40 AM ET #2

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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 3:14 AM ET #3

    all your reasons are kind of just against SH.

    do you have any good reasons why dayton will beat them (per their skill)?

    so for example, if OSU had a freshman point guard and hasnt played an away game, would you still pick dayton? just playing devils advocate here. 

    not saying your points are bad, because they are awesome, but just wondering. 
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    all your reasons are kind of just against SH.

    do you have any good reasons why dayton will beat them (per their skill)?

    so for example, if OSU had a freshman point guard and hasnt played an away game, would you still pick dayton? just playing devils advocate here. 

    not saying your points are bad, because they are awesome, but just wondering. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 3:33 AM ET #4

    guarentee ur failure 100%
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 6:13 AM ET #5

    Nice writeup.

    So, uh.... Did you ever post your 'legendary bowl game POY' over in CFB?

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    Nice writeup.

    So, uh.... Did you ever post your 'legendary bowl game POY' over in CFB?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 7:44 AM ET #6

    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points
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    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 7:55 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:

    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:

    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points
    English?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 8:05 AM ET #8

    I would go over 133.5
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 8:28 AM ET #9

    im on Dayton tonight too.  they are tough at home.
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    im on Dayton tonight too.  they are tough at home.
     
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    Nice write up
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 8:58 AM ET #11

    Simply said the biggest advantage in this game goes to Dayton for home court. I have not seen one response with a decent argument against this post yet. Well said m15525
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    Simply said the biggest advantage in this game goes to Dayton for home court. I have not seen one response with a decent argument against this post yet. Well said m15525
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 8:58 AM ET #12

    Daton -4 is fucking awesome.

    Lots of degenerates jumped on the overrated Big East Seton Hall Buccaneers
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    Daton -4 is fucking awesome.

    Lots of degenerates jumped on the overrated Big East Seton Hall Buccaneers
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 9:09 AM ET #13

    Will be on this. Thanks m155255.
    I know this is the wrong forum, but what was your legendary bowl play?
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    Will be on this. Thanks m155255.
    I know this is the wrong forum, but what was your legendary bowl play?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 9:45 AM ET #14

    I see that Flyer have been kicking ass as of late, including #16 Alabama
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    I see that Flyer have been kicking ass as of late, including #16 Alabama
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 9:47 AM ET #15

    my understanding is that chris johnson (10ppg, 5 reb pg) will be a game-time decision. be careful on this one dayton backers...
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    my understanding is that chris johnson (10ppg, 5 reb pg) will be a game-time decision. be careful on this one dayton backers...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 9:51 AM ET #16

    Johnson will play.
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 10:17 AM ET #17

    i think i will buy this line at dayton -3.5 at the very most

    i love your writeup though, definitely a good situation to bet dayton here.

    gl. at this point i will most likely buy a half point to -3.5, but im waiting i am pretty positive this line will drop to 3.5 at some point
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    i think i will buy this line at dayton -3.5 at the very most

    i love your writeup though, definitely a good situation to bet dayton here.

    gl. at this point i will most likely buy a half point to -3.5, but im waiting i am pretty positive this line will drop to 3.5 at some point
     
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    Nice write up 
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:

    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points

    What the hell does this even mean? Speak English please!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:

    i think it should be better to be away for this game books are on the good way for me

    1) 70/66 or 68/67( could be OT)

    i will have good confidence that Seton Hall will score 66or 67 points

    What the hell does this even mean? Speak English please!!

     
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    So what was your big college football play?
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    This looks like it will be a very tight game.  I see the big factor is that Seton Hall is on the revenge factor tonight after they lost last year at home to Dayton.  It's payback time.  I am hoping it comes down to which team has the ball for the last shot.
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    This looks like it will be a very tight game.  I see the big factor is that Seton Hall is on the revenge factor tonight after they lost last year at home to Dayton.  It's payback time.  I am hoping it comes down to which team has the ball for the last shot.
     
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    Some goooooold motherfucking Daytons!
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2011 - 1:09 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps:

    This looks like it will be a very tight game.  I see the big factor is that Seton Hall is on the revenge factor tonight after they lost last year at home to Dayton.  It's payback time.  I am hoping it comes down to which team has the ball for the last shot.

    agree. im playing the over
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps:

    This looks like it will be a very tight game.  I see the big factor is that Seton Hall is on the revenge factor tonight after they lost last year at home to Dayton.  It's payback time.  I am hoping it comes down to which team has the ball for the last shot.

    agree. im playing the over
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