I like Columbia +13.5 The Princeton Tigers have found their
way back to the top of the Ivy League, and all of their games have been
on the road. It would be easy to like them here coming home, but with a
total of under 110, the steep double-digit line is definitely more like
a 20-point line in a normal scoring game. Both of these teams work with
methodical offenses that reduce the shots taken, and shorten the game.
It is one of the reasons why Princeton has had extreme difficulty
taking down large numbers, and the result has been 1-10 ATS at home
giving 13 or more. It is also the reason slowdown Columbia is 19-7 ATS
as a dog of 13 or more. I'm going with Columbia in this one.
Anyone care to comment?
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I like Columbia +13.5 The Princeton Tigers have found their
way back to the top of the Ivy League, and all of their games have been
on the road. It would be easy to like them here coming home, but with a
total of under 110, the steep double-digit line is definitely more like
a 20-point line in a normal scoring game. Both of these teams work with
methodical offenses that reduce the shots taken, and shorten the game.
It is one of the reasons why Princeton has had extreme difficulty
taking down large numbers, and the result has been 1-10 ATS at home
giving 13 or more. It is also the reason slowdown Columbia is 19-7 ATS
as a dog of 13 or more. I'm going with Columbia in this one.
For anyone who's looking at Penn-Cornell, Penn forward Mike Howlett
(their second best player) looks like he could be returning from a
two-month injury tonight. It's been reported that he's on the floor
and participating in warmups. Just throwing that out there. This is
still a no-play all the way around for me.
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For anyone who's looking at Penn-Cornell, Penn forward Mike Howlett
(their second best player) looks like he could be returning from a
two-month injury tonight. It's been reported that he's on the floor
and participating in warmups. Just throwing that out there. This is
still a no-play all the way around for me.
I like Columbia +13.5 The Princeton Tigers have found their
way back to the top of the Ivy League, and all of their games have been
on the road. It would be easy to like them here coming home, but with a
total of under 110, the steep double-digit line is definitely more like
a 20-point line in a normal scoring game. Both of these teams work with
methodical offenses that reduce the shots taken, and shorten the game.
It is one of the reasons why Princeton has had extreme difficulty
taking down large numbers, and the result has been 1-10 ATS at home
giving 13 or more. It is also the reason slowdown Columbia is 19-7 ATS
as a dog of 13 or more. I'm going with Columbia in this one.
Anyone care to comment?
Sure, I'll comment. You can definitely make a convincing case for Columbia. In fact, you just did. My problem with this game was that I could also make an equally convincing case for Princeton, as this is a matchup nightmare for Columbia, which I think I went into more detail on somewhere on the first page of this thread. So personally I couldn't figure it out and I'm not touching it. But if you feel strongly about Columbia and aren't scared off by the matchup issues they're due to face, go get some and best of luck.
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Quote Originally Posted by posenkid88:
I like Columbia +13.5 The Princeton Tigers have found their
way back to the top of the Ivy League, and all of their games have been
on the road. It would be easy to like them here coming home, but with a
total of under 110, the steep double-digit line is definitely more like
a 20-point line in a normal scoring game. Both of these teams work with
methodical offenses that reduce the shots taken, and shorten the game.
It is one of the reasons why Princeton has had extreme difficulty
taking down large numbers, and the result has been 1-10 ATS at home
giving 13 or more. It is also the reason slowdown Columbia is 19-7 ATS
as a dog of 13 or more. I'm going with Columbia in this one.
Anyone care to comment?
Sure, I'll comment. You can definitely make a convincing case for Columbia. In fact, you just did. My problem with this game was that I could also make an equally convincing case for Princeton, as this is a matchup nightmare for Columbia, which I think I went into more detail on somewhere on the first page of this thread. So personally I couldn't figure it out and I'm not touching it. But if you feel strongly about Columbia and aren't scared off by the matchup issues they're due to face, go get some and best of luck.
Thanks for your input Dmon but i still feel pretty confident. i am making a parlay with: Columbia +13.5 Princeton/Columbia Under 108.5 Weber St. -11 Eastern Washington +2.5
$110 to win $550 im doing the round robin with 2's 3's and 4's.
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Thanks for your input Dmon but i still feel pretty confident. i am making a parlay with: Columbia +13.5 Princeton/Columbia Under 108.5 Weber St. -11 Eastern Washington +2.5
$110 to win $550 im doing the round robin with 2's 3's and 4's.
."..i indeed did read your post and all the other posts in this
thread...you just stated they were confirmed out!...you did not say
where you got this information...well did you???"
gd2436...dude, read my post again, and click on the enclosed link in my post....ALL three of the players in question acknowledged they will NOT play this w/e in the link I provided....It's as simple as that.
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."..i indeed did read your post and all the other posts in this
thread...you just stated they were confirmed out!...you did not say
where you got this information...well did you???"
gd2436...dude, read my post again, and click on the enclosed link in my post....ALL three of the players in question acknowledged they will NOT play this w/e in the link I provided....It's as simple as that.
Well, this has really been a demoralizing two weeks for Harvard. First they get their butt whooped at Cornell in a game that they treated like their Super Bowl, and then they got beat at home last Friday night by a better Princeton squad. And on top of all of that, they lost three of their big guys (Wright, Magnarelli, and Van Nest) to injury. Now they're looking at a decimated front court of Miller (little-used senior), Casey (talented but foul-prone frosh), and Georgatos (almost never plays), with nobody else in support.
This has really forced Amaker to shake things up, as his team travels this weekend in its psychologically and physically banged up state to Yale/Brown for the weekend, where it takes on two of the league's better frontcourts. The focus all week in practice has been defense and rebounding, as well it should be. Here's what Amaker had to say about this weekend:
“With both of those two teams, their front courts, in my opinion, are their strengths, and so that’s not a good formula for us going into that, and being on the road… but we’ll summon up something to give ourselves the best opportunity possible. Trying to keep guys out of foul trouble will be important…And we have to shoot well. There’s no secret to our attack right now—we have to be able to play well from the perimeter spots, and a lot of times that means making shots. The focal point for us always will be can we defend and keep those guys off the glass from a defensive standpoint in terms of blocking out.”
And he should be concerned. Yale's attack comes from the inside and from its guards attacking the rim. Without their best big guys and best interior defenders in there, you know Yale will go inside and really come after them. On the other end, Yale struggles defending inside more than they do on the perimeter, and as you can tell from Amaker's quote, Harvard has no intention of going inside much this weekend. They've made no secret of the fact that they're going to try to shoot themselves into a win.
I don't like Harvard's mentality going into this game, or how the injuries have affected them, or the matchup. I do like how Yale is playing and think that they're in a good spot in this game to pull the upset. Hopefully they can capitalize on the spot, because I'll probably be on Yale +5 and the ML.
You term Miller "little used" but he's averaging more minutes at 16 per game than both Magnarelli (15 per game) and Van Nest (8 per game) were. Plus he hardly inexperienced, he averaged 20 minutes per game last year. He's very experienced.
You also say they're "demoralized" but fail to mention they won a game since the Cornell and Princeton losses, by 14. That is their last game.
I think Harvard is undervalued here. I'm not saying they have no injuries, but lets face it, two of those front court guys are minor role players now replaced with other minor role players. Harvard still has Jeremy Lin who IMO may be the best player in the Ivy. I have seen them play in person this year and they were very impressive.
I like them on this short line against a poor to mediocre Yale club.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dmon826:
HARVARD @ YALE +5
Well, this has really been a demoralizing two weeks for Harvard. First they get their butt whooped at Cornell in a game that they treated like their Super Bowl, and then they got beat at home last Friday night by a better Princeton squad. And on top of all of that, they lost three of their big guys (Wright, Magnarelli, and Van Nest) to injury. Now they're looking at a decimated front court of Miller (little-used senior), Casey (talented but foul-prone frosh), and Georgatos (almost never plays), with nobody else in support.
This has really forced Amaker to shake things up, as his team travels this weekend in its psychologically and physically banged up state to Yale/Brown for the weekend, where it takes on two of the league's better frontcourts. The focus all week in practice has been defense and rebounding, as well it should be. Here's what Amaker had to say about this weekend:
“With both of those two teams, their front courts, in my opinion, are their strengths, and so that’s not a good formula for us going into that, and being on the road… but we’ll summon up something to give ourselves the best opportunity possible. Trying to keep guys out of foul trouble will be important…And we have to shoot well. There’s no secret to our attack right now—we have to be able to play well from the perimeter spots, and a lot of times that means making shots. The focal point for us always will be can we defend and keep those guys off the glass from a defensive standpoint in terms of blocking out.”
And he should be concerned. Yale's attack comes from the inside and from its guards attacking the rim. Without their best big guys and best interior defenders in there, you know Yale will go inside and really come after them. On the other end, Yale struggles defending inside more than they do on the perimeter, and as you can tell from Amaker's quote, Harvard has no intention of going inside much this weekend. They've made no secret of the fact that they're going to try to shoot themselves into a win.
I don't like Harvard's mentality going into this game, or how the injuries have affected them, or the matchup. I do like how Yale is playing and think that they're in a good spot in this game to pull the upset. Hopefully they can capitalize on the spot, because I'll probably be on Yale +5 and the ML.
You term Miller "little used" but he's averaging more minutes at 16 per game than both Magnarelli (15 per game) and Van Nest (8 per game) were. Plus he hardly inexperienced, he averaged 20 minutes per game last year. He's very experienced.
You also say they're "demoralized" but fail to mention they won a game since the Cornell and Princeton losses, by 14. That is their last game.
I think Harvard is undervalued here. I'm not saying they have no injuries, but lets face it, two of those front court guys are minor role players now replaced with other minor role players. Harvard still has Jeremy Lin who IMO may be the best player in the Ivy. I have seen them play in person this year and they were very impressive.
I like them on this short line against a poor to mediocre Yale club.
Oh for the love of god Yale almost gave me a heart attack. Still, that's such a sucky way to lose the outright win in regulation. First they give up a game-typing three with 27 seconds to go. Then they do the smart thing and hold for 1, and get fouled with 7 seconds left. The guy makes the first (to go up 1), misses the second, and then they inexcusably foul fighting for the rebound. Of course this sends Harvard to the line with 2 seconds to go, the guy sinks 1 of 2 for the tie, and the game goes to overtime. Seriously, wow.
In any case, we got the cover in overtime still. Lost some of my ML value when they crapped away the outright win, but still a real nice cover. And Brown won for me in my other, smaller play.
Crazy game, but I'll take 2-0 and move on to the next day. Can I ask for a little less stressful next time though?
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Oh for the love of god Yale almost gave me a heart attack. Still, that's such a sucky way to lose the outright win in regulation. First they give up a game-typing three with 27 seconds to go. Then they do the smart thing and hold for 1, and get fouled with 7 seconds left. The guy makes the first (to go up 1), misses the second, and then they inexcusably foul fighting for the rebound. Of course this sends Harvard to the line with 2 seconds to go, the guy sinks 1 of 2 for the tie, and the game goes to overtime. Seriously, wow.
In any case, we got the cover in overtime still. Lost some of my ML value when they crapped away the outright win, but still a real nice cover. And Brown won for me in my other, smaller play.
Crazy game, but I'll take 2-0 and move on to the next day. Can I ask for a little less stressful next time though?
DMon, remember my post thinking Cornell had a look ahead in this game? Who the hell would of thought that Penn would win outright? Really going to have to re think tomorrows game against Princeton now. BOL
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DMon, remember my post thinking Cornell had a look ahead in this game? Who the hell would of thought that Penn would win outright? Really going to have to re think tomorrows game against Princeton now. BOL
DMon, remember my post thinking Cornell had a look ahead in this game? Who the hell would of thought that Penn would win outright? Really going to have to re think tomorrows game against Princeton now. BOL
The amazing thing is that Cornell didn't lose this game; Penn won it. My boys just wanted it so bad, played so damn hard, and really made a whole lot of us proud to be Penn fans again. It's just such a great night to be a Quaker. We'll be back as a program. And what a beautiful, emotional way to start the climb back to the top.
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Quote Originally Posted by 222bad:
DMon, remember my post thinking Cornell had a look ahead in this game? Who the hell would of thought that Penn would win outright? Really going to have to re think tomorrows game against Princeton now. BOL
The amazing thing is that Cornell didn't lose this game; Penn won it. My boys just wanted it so bad, played so damn hard, and really made a whole lot of us proud to be Penn fans again. It's just such a great night to be a Quaker. We'll be back as a program. And what a beautiful, emotional way to start the climb back to the top.
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