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    Is CMU a trap?

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    Kobe_V24
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:22 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion#SocialSkills


    Lol this post made me laugh, are you seriously salty that I didn't put an "in my opinion Keene goes off and CMU wins by 10"?

    If that legitimately bothers you then look out bud there are larger obstacles in life.

    And really why do I need to add those words, I posted it, no one else did, who's else opinion is it? Can't believe I'm wasting my time responding back to this lol.


    haha you are so correct i cant beleive i wasted actualy time responding back to such idiodic comments... but i just find that its in me to educate these idiots who jut bash on peoples threads and add no value whats so ever to the thread.... sensitive? nahh just annoyed at you trolls that add no value and just waste time in my day
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion#SocialSkills


    Lol this post made me laugh, are you seriously salty that I didn't put an "in my opinion Keene goes off and CMU wins by 10"?

    If that legitimately bothers you then look out bud there are larger obstacles in life.

    And really why do I need to add those words, I posted it, no one else did, who's else opinion is it? Can't believe I'm wasting my time responding back to this lol.


    haha you are so correct i cant beleive i wasted actualy time responding back to such idiodic comments... but i just find that its in me to educate these idiots who jut bash on peoples threads and add no value whats so ever to the thread.... sensitive? nahh just annoyed at you trolls that add no value and just waste time in my day
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:24 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little!

    Right on, that's a decent play imo. I don't think I'll be capping this game, I will probably throw them on a proline for all the Ontario fellas out here which means CMU -5.5. Maybe we can both hit BOL.

    i jsut think itll be a 10+ win im only taking cmu -3 and -6
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little!

    Right on, that's a decent play imo. I don't think I'll be capping this game, I will probably throw them on a proline for all the Ontario fellas out here which means CMU -5.5. Maybe we can both hit BOL.

    i jsut think itll be a 10+ win im only taking cmu -3 and -6
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:38 PM ET #28

    Calm down kids...Wasn't bashing, wont bring it up again

    The line looks right:

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/#New_Feature

    But check out the anomaly's on Iona, Rhode Island and Penn 

    Rhode Island should actually be the favorite, Iona is and Penn are under bet. You don't see this very often



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    Calm down kids...Wasn't bashing, wont bring it up again

    The line looks right:

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/#New_Feature

    But check out the anomaly's on Iona, Rhode Island and Penn 

    Rhode Island should actually be the favorite, Iona is and Penn are under bet. You don't see this very often



     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:46 PM ET #29

    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?
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    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:57 PM ET #30

    Won with wm over ohio the other nite so u decide
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    Won with wm over ohio the other nite so u decide
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:26 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    C'mon guys?

    #absurd




    Yes, that is precisely what I meant when I put "trap" in my title. You're entitled to your opinion but "trap game" is a common term people can use for questionable lines. I'm not saying there is a secret faction running around making people place stupid bets, but I do believe Vegas misleads bettors with low lines to win.

    If you disagree thats fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    C'mon guys?

    #absurd




    Yes, that is precisely what I meant when I put "trap" in my title. You're entitled to your opinion but "trap game" is a common term people can use for questionable lines. I'm not saying there is a secret faction running around making people place stupid bets, but I do believe Vegas misleads bettors with low lines to win.

    If you disagree thats fine.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:28 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    It's sounded stupid, 


    Why are you millennials so insecure and sensitive? Im tryin to help you? 



    Coming from the guy who is putting hash tags at the end of his responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    It's sounded stupid, 


    Why are you millennials so insecure and sensitive? Im tryin to help you? 



    Coming from the guy who is putting hash tags at the end of his responses.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:33 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffyg1135:


    Yes, that is precisely what I meant when I put "trap" in my title. You're entitled to your opinion but "trap game" is a common term people can use for questionable lines. I'm not saying there is a secret faction running around making people place stupid bets, but I do believe Vegas misleads bettors with low lines to win.

    If you disagree thats fine.

     no hard feelings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffyg1135:


    Yes, that is precisely what I meant when I put "trap" in my title. You're entitled to your opinion but "trap game" is a common term people can use for questionable lines. I'm not saying there is a secret faction running around making people place stupid bets, but I do believe Vegas misleads bettors with low lines to win.

    If you disagree thats fine.

     no hard feelings
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:36 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by 2Team_Parlay:


    Coming from the guy who is putting hash tags at the end of his responses.

    I never claimed to be a genius, but if you're gonna play baseball, you need to know what balls and strikes are- You need to have a basic level of knowledge on how the game works...

    And if you're gonna interact with people, it helps to have some basic social skills..

    Thats all
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Team_Parlay:


    Coming from the guy who is putting hash tags at the end of his responses.

    I never claimed to be a genius, but if you're gonna play baseball, you need to know what balls and strikes are- You need to have a basic level of knowledge on how the game works...

    And if you're gonna interact with people, it helps to have some basic social skills..

    Thats all
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:47 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?


    thats exactly it... they will manipulate the line so that they will come away with money....they will manipulate the line so that it looks inticing to bet....that is a trap....go to school....read a book...get out of this forum... ur just as bad as that stop the maddness guy.... u clearly dont npo the abcs and 123s or didnt see my 8-0 day last night....they dont no who is going to win? LOL ur an idiot...how else do you expect to make a spread...if a team is favoured by 6 its because the oddsmakers belevie they will win by 6 HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH omg u just made me so much more dumb reading your ill educated words.... please bro stop while you are a head and leave this forum and never come back.... this forum needs to weed out u trolling losers who really add nothing of value or no anything bout gambling.... this forum was amazing 4 years ago before all you touts starting clogging the threads with your dumb behind garbage... this is a forum about th games at hand...you post your opinions and reads on the game... you do not come here to bash and to start telling people there is no such thing as traps HAHAHAHA go tell any professional handicapper that they will slap you in the face
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?


    thats exactly it... they will manipulate the line so that they will come away with money....they will manipulate the line so that it looks inticing to bet....that is a trap....go to school....read a book...get out of this forum... ur just as bad as that stop the maddness guy.... u clearly dont npo the abcs and 123s or didnt see my 8-0 day last night....they dont no who is going to win? LOL ur an idiot...how else do you expect to make a spread...if a team is favoured by 6 its because the oddsmakers belevie they will win by 6 HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH omg u just made me so much more dumb reading your ill educated words.... please bro stop while you are a head and leave this forum and never come back.... this forum needs to weed out u trolling losers who really add nothing of value or no anything bout gambling.... this forum was amazing 4 years ago before all you touts starting clogging the threads with your dumb behind garbage... this is a forum about th games at hand...you post your opinions and reads on the game... you do not come here to bash and to start telling people there is no such thing as traps HAHAHAHA go tell any professional handicapper that they will slap you in the face
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:48 PM ET #36

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Titan2]

    I never claimed to be a genius, but if you're gonna play baseball, you need to know what balls and strikes are- You need to have a basic level of knowledge on how the game works...

    And if you're gonna interact with people, it helps to have some basic social skills..

    Thats all


    you should definintly learn some then before you open your mouth again

    also your the one with the stupid hashtags .... sheesh you cant even argue properly either
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Titan2]

    I never claimed to be a genius, but if you're gonna play baseball, you need to know what balls and strikes are- You need to have a basic level of knowledge on how the game works...

    And if you're gonna interact with people, it helps to have some basic social skills..

    Thats all


    you should definintly learn some then before you open your mouth again

    also your the one with the stupid hashtags .... sheesh you cant even argue properly either
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 4:50 PM ET #37

    lol they take 10%? lol r u retarted... i hope you know when you place bets at the end of the day if one side wins the other side that looses is not even.... vegas either pays or if vegas is smart they manipulate the line to get more money back on their side and htye keep the profits... there is no chance that if the patriots win on sunday that the exact amount of money came on atl to cover the pay out.... please bro read a book
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    lol they take 10%? lol r u retarted... i hope you know when you place bets at the end of the day if one side wins the other side that looses is not even.... vegas either pays or if vegas is smart they manipulate the line to get more money back on their side and htye keep the profits... there is no chance that if the patriots win on sunday that the exact amount of money came on atl to cover the pay out.... please bro read a book
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 5:03 PM ET #38

    Obi Wan Kenobi:         "I sense a trap.."
    Anakin:                       "Next move?"
    Obi Wan Kenobi:         "Spring the trap..." 

    CMU -3 it is!!

    BOL to all your wagers.. 
    "Schrödinger's bet." A bet that loses when you bet it but wins when you DON'T bet it...
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    Obi Wan Kenobi:         "I sense a trap.."
    Anakin:                       "Next move?"
    Obi Wan Kenobi:         "Spring the trap..." 

    CMU -3 it is!!

    BOL to all your wagers.. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?

    While I agree that Vegas isn't setting traps, your statement of "the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)" is absolutely wrong. Ask any book and they will give you the real answer. Living off the juice isn't what keeps a book open. Totally old school way of thinking here. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Oh..You think the odds makers are trying to trap you? 


    Odds makers are gauging PUBLIC OPINION on the game, the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)

    That's it, that's all they care about, they don't know who's gonna win and they don't care. They want to make a certain profit by posting a number that gets even action on both sides. Don't gamble if you don't know the ABC's and 123's on how this works. Nobody's trying to trick you or trap you. Books don't win when you lose- They win when they get even action on a game, they pay the winners from the losers and charge a fee (10% on losers) for holding everyone money...

    C'mon guys?

    While I agree that Vegas isn't setting traps, your statement of "the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)" is absolutely wrong. Ask any book and they will give you the real answer. Living off the juice isn't what keeps a book open. Totally old school way of thinking here. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 5:31 PM ET #40

    Broncs have taken 3 in a row and 6 of last 7 against the Chipps.  New cast of characters in Mt. Pleasant with little care for history.  I'm taking the Chipps minus 3 and just plain old feelin' good about it.
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    Broncs have taken 3 in a row and 6 of last 7 against the Chipps.  New cast of characters in Mt. Pleasant with little care for history.  I'm taking the Chipps minus 3 and just plain old feelin' good about it.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 5:50 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:


    While I agree that Vegas isn't setting traps, your statement of "the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)" is absolutely wrong. Ask any book and they will give you the real answer. Living off the juice isn't what keeps a book open. Totally old school way of thinking here. 

    I don't have to ask, I spent 40 years in the business
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:


    While I agree that Vegas isn't setting traps, your statement of "the only thing they do is post a line that will get 50-50 action on a ballgame so they make their SURE thing (10% on losses)" is absolutely wrong. Ask any book and they will give you the real answer. Living off the juice isn't what keeps a book open. Totally old school way of thinking here. 

    I don't have to ask, I spent 40 years in the business
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 5:54 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:

    lol they take 10%? lol r u retarted... i hope you know when you place bets at the end of the day if one side wins the other side that looses is not even.... vegas either pays or if vegas is smart they manipulate the line to get more money back on their side and htye keep the profits... there is no chance that if the patriots win on sunday that the exact amount of money came on atl to cover the pay out.... please bro read a book

    You don't know what your talking about- Betting moves the line- Not some smart guy in "Vegas" lol

    You sound like a college freshman who didn't know what a point spread was at this time last year..Books don't gamble- If they did they'd be going out of business all the time. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:

    lol they take 10%? lol r u retarted... i hope you know when you place bets at the end of the day if one side wins the other side that looses is not even.... vegas either pays or if vegas is smart they manipulate the line to get more money back on their side and htye keep the profits... there is no chance that if the patriots win on sunday that the exact amount of money came on atl to cover the pay out.... please bro read a book

    You don't know what your talking about- Betting moves the line- Not some smart guy in "Vegas" lol

    You sound like a college freshman who didn't know what a point spread was at this time last year..Books don't gamble- If they did they'd be going out of business all the time. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 6:57 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    I don't have to ask, I spent 40 years in the business

    Ha. Sure ya did. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    I don't have to ask, I spent 40 years in the business

    Ha. Sure ya did. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 6:57 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 





    20-6 WMU now
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 





    20-6 WMU now
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 7:00 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:


    Ha. Sure ya did. 

    Did you mean 

    "Ha. Sure ya were"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:


    Ha. Sure ya did. 

    Did you mean 

    "Ha. Sure ya were"

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 7:09 PM ET #46

    Once I saw the word "trap" my eyes glazed over-  are your trap theories workin out for you on this game?

    Thats a serious question- I didn't really read much about the thought process here-
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    Once I saw the word "trap" my eyes glazed over-  are your trap theories workin out for you on this game?

    Thats a serious question- I didn't really read much about the thought process here-
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 7:25 PM ET #47

    Holy smokes! 67% shooting, 63% from 3pt and 53 points in the first quarter! Someone came to play, or not play defence haha
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    Holy smokes! 67% shooting, 63% from 3pt and 53 points in the first quarter! Someone came to play, or not play defence haha
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 8:31 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    These are two crappy little programs with crappy little players-  These guys all take turns beating each other and I DON'T THINK CMU is heads and shoulders better than WMU. It's probably the only national televised game for WMU.  All the WMU players family n friends are watching so you'll probably see thier best effort of the year.  I don't think CMU is gonna blow this WMU team out tonight. That's just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.

    Ah huh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    These are two crappy little programs with crappy little players-  These guys all take turns beating each other and I DON'T THINK CMU is heads and shoulders better than WMU. It's probably the only national televised game for WMU.  All the WMU players family n friends are watching so you'll probably see thier best effort of the year.  I don't think CMU is gonna blow this WMU team out tonight. That's just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.

    Ah huh...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 8:42 PM ET #49

    WOW..If you had WM...You need to quit...Every possible scenario happened to blow the cover.  WM ball with under 5 seconds down by 3 and they lose by 4. 
    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    WOW..If you had WM...You need to quit...Every possible scenario happened to blow the cover.  WM ball with under 5 seconds down by 3 and they lose by 4. 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 8:44 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Ah huh...

    looks like a cover to me idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Ah huh...

    looks like a cover to me idiot
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