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    Is CMU a trap?

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    Jeffyg1135
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 9:28 AM ET #1

    Thin slate tonight so I've been looking at each game individually and this game makes me think...

    Obviously CMU and WMU have the rivalry, but is that enough to think WMU keeps it within 4? Line opened at -4 and moved down to -3.5 even though 71% of the public is hitting CMU.

    I took WMU in the "trap game" +2 line vs Ohio a couple days ago... WMU had a huge comeback in the 2H to win that game. CMU on the other hand is coming off a disappointing loss vs Buffalo after looking like they had the game won. I'd imagine CMU is coming into this home game a little hungrier than the Broncos.

    - CMU is 9-1 at home this year while WMU is winless on the road
    - CMU at home is averaging nearly 92 points a game while WMU comes in around 68 on the road. 

    Only thing that I can think of is WMU coming in with a defensive game plan to try and slow down the Chips (O/U line went from 178 to 176) but I just can't see it. I'm thinking if the line moves down any more (anywhere from +2 to +3 for WMU) then Vegas is thinking this will be another trap. 

    Any inputs would be great, and BOL to all of you 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Thin slate tonight so I've been looking at each game individually and this game makes me think...

    Obviously CMU and WMU have the rivalry, but is that enough to think WMU keeps it within 4? Line opened at -4 and moved down to -3.5 even though 71% of the public is hitting CMU.

    I took WMU in the "trap game" +2 line vs Ohio a couple days ago... WMU had a huge comeback in the 2H to win that game. CMU on the other hand is coming off a disappointing loss vs Buffalo after looking like they had the game won. I'd imagine CMU is coming into this home game a little hungrier than the Broncos.

    - CMU is 9-1 at home this year while WMU is winless on the road
    - CMU at home is averaging nearly 92 points a game while WMU comes in around 68 on the road. 

    Only thing that I can think of is WMU coming in with a defensive game plan to try and slow down the Chips (O/U line went from 178 to 176) but I just can't see it. I'm thinking if the line moves down any more (anywhere from +2 to +3 for WMU) then Vegas is thinking this will be another trap. 

    Any inputs would be great, and BOL to all of you 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 9:45 AM ET #2

    Line down to -2.5 for CMU now...
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    Line down to -2.5 for CMU now...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 9:46 AM ET #3

    This is what I thought (and overthought) about Maryland v Ohio State.. just bet what you like 
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    This is what I thought (and overthought) about Maryland v Ohio State.. just bet what you like 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 9:55 AM ET #4

    This is my Value or Trap game of the Night ...

    CM ..I had CM as a 5 1/2  point fav to open instead they open 3 1/2 and now they are CM - 2 ?

    Reminds me a bit of St Johns the other night line wise not talent wise ..I had Marquette as a -7 fav they open at like 4 1/2 and dropped to - 2 1/2 by game time ..

    Been wrong many times before , but on nights where there is limited games like Friday's card , the oddsmakers are usually dead on with their lines ....just my opinion guys ....

    There might be an injury as well .... ?? Best to check ....

    For me ...I got WM + 4 before the drop I bought 1/2 ...


    GL !!!
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    This is my Value or Trap game of the Night ...

    CM ..I had CM as a 5 1/2  point fav to open instead they open 3 1/2 and now they are CM - 2 ?

    Reminds me a bit of St Johns the other night line wise not talent wise ..I had Marquette as a -7 fav they open at like 4 1/2 and dropped to - 2 1/2 by game time ..

    Been wrong many times before , but on nights where there is limited games like Friday's card , the oddsmakers are usually dead on with their lines ....just my opinion guys ....

    There might be an injury as well .... ?? Best to check ....

    For me ...I got WM + 4 before the drop I bought 1/2 ...


    GL !!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 10:10 AM ET #5

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 




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    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 




     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 10:14 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 





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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 





     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 



    I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 



    I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 10:34 AM ET #8

    .  [/Quote]I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little![/Quote]

    Right on, that's a decent play imo. I don't think I'll be capping this game, I will probably throw them on a proline for all the Ontario fellas out here which means CMU -5.5. Maybe we can both hit BOL.
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    .  [/Quote]I like the rational here but I think the in-state rivalry will play a factor as well. I can't see WMU winning, but decided to get them at +8.5 in a teaser because of the good 'ol gut feeling. Good luck but I'm hoping your 10+ points is off a little![/Quote]

    Right on, that's a decent play imo. I don't think I'll be capping this game, I will probably throw them on a proline for all the Ontario fellas out here which means CMU -5.5. Maybe we can both hit BOL.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 10:34 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 







    Respect your view bro ... GL !! I understand the Value ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 







    Respect your view bro ... GL !! I understand the Value ....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 10:37 AM ET #10

    lol excuse my last post for some reason the quotes disapeared on the Jeffy post.
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    lol excuse my last post for some reason the quotes disapeared on the Jeffy post.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 11:17 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    lol excuse my last post for some reason the quotes disapeared on the Jeffy post.

    Saw that, initially I thought we both had a very similar view on the game hahaha. BOL to you if you end up capping this game... CMU by 6 would be perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    lol excuse my last post for some reason the quotes disapeared on the Jeffy post.

    Saw that, initially I thought we both had a very similar view on the game hahaha. BOL to you if you end up capping this game... CMU by 6 would be perfect
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 11:45 AM ET #12

    This Ontario guy is taking c. Michigan by 6 on proline. Lol
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    This Ontario guy is taking c. Michigan by 6 on proline. Lol
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 12:13 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by prescod17:

    This Ontario guy is taking c. Michigan by 6 on proline. Lol

    take that one and take St.peters monmouth TIE
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    Quote Originally Posted by prescod17:

    This Ontario guy is taking c. Michigan by 6 on proline. Lol

    take that one and take St.peters monmouth TIE
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 12:33 PM ET #14

    Haha. Has this turned into an Ontario proline thread? I have some early soccer (Lever) with CMU and maybe some NBA.
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    Haha. Has this turned into an Ontario proline thread? I have some early soccer (Lever) with CMU and maybe some NBA.
     
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    There's no such thing as a trap- because who do you think is laying it?

     And don't say "Vegas",  That's just ignorant-

    It's not like CMU is so much better than WMU- I'm not saying games aren't fixed and have long suspected those Thursday night MAC football games (where they are the only games going, and get a lot of action) as being "manipulated" by players taking money...But  "a trap"? 

    No

    Its probably gonna be a close game- In my opinion
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    There's no such thing as a trap- because who do you think is laying it?

     And don't say "Vegas",  That's just ignorant-

    It's not like CMU is so much better than WMU- I'm not saying games aren't fixed and have long suspected those Thursday night MAC football games (where they are the only games going, and get a lot of action) as being "manipulated" by players taking money...But  "a trap"? 

    No

    Its probably gonna be a close game- In my opinion
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 






    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 






    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    There's no such thing as a trap- because who do you think is laying it?

     And don't say "Vegas",  That's just ignorant-

    It's not like CMU is so much better than WMU- I'm not saying games aren't fixed and have long suspected those Thursday night MAC football games (where they are the only games going, and get a lot of action) as being "manipulated" by players taking money...But  "a trap"? 

    No

    Its probably gonna be a close game- In my opinion


    clearly there are such things as a trap...its ignorant to think there isnt... any post someone posts if they do not say this is the lock of the year...is a in my opinion or a i think.... no need to bash or make ur self look like some higher superior ... these are all peoples opinions 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    There's no such thing as a trap- because who do you think is laying it?

     And don't say "Vegas",  That's just ignorant-

    It's not like CMU is so much better than WMU- I'm not saying games aren't fixed and have long suspected those Thursday night MAC football games (where they are the only games going, and get a lot of action) as being "manipulated" by players taking money...But  "a trap"? 

    No

    Its probably gonna be a close game- In my opinion


    clearly there are such things as a trap...its ignorant to think there isnt... any post someone posts if they do not say this is the lock of the year...is a in my opinion or a i think.... no need to bash or make ur self look like some higher superior ... these are all peoples opinions 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 2:37 PM ET #18

    I asked you, who is laying the trap?
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    I asked you, who is laying the trap?
     
    Titan2
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 2:39 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:



    ... no need to bash or make ur self look like some higher superior ... these are all peoples opinions 

    Relax, don't anybody get their feeling hurt, it's not bashing-  I'm talking about basic social skills-  I guess some of you guys never learned those on Facechat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe_V24:



    ... no need to bash or make ur self look like some higher superior ... these are all peoples opinions 

    Relax, don't anybody get their feeling hurt, it's not bashing-  I'm talking about basic social skills-  I guess some of you guys never learned those on Facechat
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 2:47 PM ET #20

    These are two crappy little programs with crappy little players-  These guys all take turns beating each other and I DON'T THINK CMU is heads and shoulders better than WMU. It's probably the only national televised game for WMU.  All the WMU players family n friends are watching so you'll probably see thier best effort of the year.  I don't think CMU is gonna blow this WMU team out tonight. That's just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
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    These are two crappy little programs with crappy little players-  These guys all take turns beating each other and I DON'T THINK CMU is heads and shoulders better than WMU. It's probably the only national televised game for WMU.  All the WMU players family n friends are watching so you'll probably see thier best effort of the year.  I don't think CMU is gonna blow this WMU team out tonight. That's just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 2:54 PM ET #21

    Taking wm and buff tonight... Ball state looks like a trap too...
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    Taking wm and buff tonight... Ball state looks like a trap too...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:02 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 
    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion#SocialSkills



    Lol this post made me laugh, are you seriously salty that I didn't put an "in my opinion Keene goes off and CMU wins by 10"?

    If that legitimately bothers you then look out bud there are larger obstacles in life.

    And really why do I need to add those words, I posted it, no one else did, who's else opinion is it? Can't believe I'm wasting my time responding back to this lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:

    Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:

    Funny how capping works eh? Spend your time looking for a line in our and favor only leaving us to deal with the mental exhaustion of "this must be a trap then". I'll be on CMU, hard to fade a team strictly due to trap hunches. I see no statistical advantage for WMU and I don't see CMU losing two in a row with the back end at home to a team like WMU. Keene goes off, CMU by 10+. 
    Why don'y you put an "I think" or an "in my opinion" before or after your predictions? We are all gamblers and we all know that anything can happen and that you don't know anything for sure. It just sounds stupid posting predictions like that- and it dilutes your opinion#SocialSkills



    Lol this post made me laugh, are you seriously salty that I didn't put an "in my opinion Keene goes off and CMU wins by 10"?

    If that legitimately bothers you then look out bud there are larger obstacles in life.

    And really why do I need to add those words, I posted it, no one else did, who's else opinion is it? Can't believe I'm wasting my time responding back to this lol.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:09 PM ET #23

    It's sounded stupid, 


    Why are you millennials so insecure and sensitive? Im tryin to help you? 


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    It's sounded stupid, 


    Why are you millennials so insecure and sensitive? Im tryin to help you? 


     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:14 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by games1:

    Taking wm and buff tonight... Ball state looks like a trap too...

    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    C'mon guys?

    #absurd



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    Quote Originally Posted by games1:

    Taking wm and buff tonight... Ball state looks like a trap too...

    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    C'mon guys?

    #absurd



     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2017 - 3:20 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    obviously the oddsmakers...why would they make the spreads so easy that you will win everytime...they want to bait people into betting the wrong side...that is the definition of a trap....who ae you bro

    #urabsurd


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan2:


    Who trying to trap you? 

    That secret cabal, clique, faction, sect and camarilla of bookmakers in Vegas behind the curtain that know who's gonna win a basketball game and are trying to lure you into betting on the loser?


    obviously the oddsmakers...why would they make the spreads so easy that you will win everytime...they want to bait people into betting the wrong side...that is the definition of a trap....who ae you bro

    #urabsurd


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