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    Holmey's $$$$ Thread WEDNESDAY - Post Your BEST Play (With Writeup) - 02.24.16

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    Redbandit
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:15 PM ET #51

    Line remains -4 and 155 on that washington game  on my off shore book.  Got on your under 155 ship holmey. Good luck to all. Bandit .

    Sorry to hear that you will be closing down after the first weekend of NCAA tournament . Plenty of college bball with all the other tournaments: nit , cit etc.. In addition you have inspired the soccer action.  Maybe some other lock thread players may show up.  Great job . Bandit 
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    Line remains -4 and 155 on that washington game  on my off shore book.  Got on your under 155 ship holmey. Good luck to all. Bandit .

    Sorry to hear that you will be closing down after the first weekend of NCAA tournament . Plenty of college bball with all the other tournaments: nit , cit etc.. In addition you have inspired the soccer action.  Maybe some other lock thread players may show up.  Great job . Bandit 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:18 PM ET #52

    Colorado (9PM ET ESPN2) – Boise State pulls away in the second half to give us the win and cover and we look for another $$$$ tonight when the #9 Arizona Wildcats take on the Colorado Buffaloes at the Coors Events Center in Boulder.  Colorado has lost four of six in February thus far including back to back losses to USC and UCLA but all four of these losses have been on the road and we see the issue here being a total lack of effort when playing in hostile territory.  Colorado has won their last six home games and have a tremendous 86-15 record at home under Tad Boyle which we have referenced multiple times this year when backing the Buffs.   Colorado has been getting outrebounded on the road in some of these losses but the Buffs are literally the top rebounding team of any power conference team and have one of the best frontcourt tandems in the country in Wesley Gordon and Josh Scott and we expect them to elevate their game as they tend to do in front of a big home crowd.  Colorado will have had Arizona circled on their calendar regardless since the Wildcats are generally considered the team to beat in the PAC 12 but now there is a desperation factor here with the Buffs having lost back to back games.  Arizona is on an impressive run of six straight wins but we still feel this Wildcats team is slightly overrated and this is a great spot to fade them laying a significant number against a dominant home team that needs this win bad.  If Colorado comes to play tonight which we expect they will, the Buffaloes will at least match the Wildcats and have this one hanging in the balance in the final minutes.  Against this number more often than not a close hard fought game should cover and we will take the points and roll with the Buffaloes here as they are in a great position to keep this within the number and potentially even win this one outright.  

    $$$$ Colorado +5 

    Colorado is my biggest play of the week thus far, stepping out big here.  Stop by topflightsportsinfo dot com for my full card for the day.

    Good luck today everyone!!!

    @bk - love the Atletico pick in Champs League this afternoon
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    Colorado (9PM ET ESPN2) – Boise State pulls away in the second half to give us the win and cover and we look for another $$$$ tonight when the #9 Arizona Wildcats take on the Colorado Buffaloes at the Coors Events Center in Boulder.  Colorado has lost four of six in February thus far including back to back losses to USC and UCLA but all four of these losses have been on the road and we see the issue here being a total lack of effort when playing in hostile territory.  Colorado has won their last six home games and have a tremendous 86-15 record at home under Tad Boyle which we have referenced multiple times this year when backing the Buffs.   Colorado has been getting outrebounded on the road in some of these losses but the Buffs are literally the top rebounding team of any power conference team and have one of the best frontcourt tandems in the country in Wesley Gordon and Josh Scott and we expect them to elevate their game as they tend to do in front of a big home crowd.  Colorado will have had Arizona circled on their calendar regardless since the Wildcats are generally considered the team to beat in the PAC 12 but now there is a desperation factor here with the Buffs having lost back to back games.  Arizona is on an impressive run of six straight wins but we still feel this Wildcats team is slightly overrated and this is a great spot to fade them laying a significant number against a dominant home team that needs this win bad.  If Colorado comes to play tonight which we expect they will, the Buffaloes will at least match the Wildcats and have this one hanging in the balance in the final minutes.  Against this number more often than not a close hard fought game should cover and we will take the points and roll with the Buffaloes here as they are in a great position to keep this within the number and potentially even win this one outright.  

    $$$$ Colorado +5 

    Colorado is my biggest play of the week thus far, stepping out big here.  Stop by topflightsportsinfo dot com for my full card for the day.

    Good luck today everyone!!!

    @bk - love the Atletico pick in Champs League this afternoon
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:19 PM ET #53

    @NFL Brosuf....


    Be very careful with that Northern Iowa team.  I watch more MVC than anyone and I can say that team is a true Jekyl and Hyde.  Combine that with the embarrassment my team, Indiana State, is trying to overcome and the fact that Indiana State is playing for the 6th seed in the conference tourney (which saves them from the first round on Thursday) I think this game is hard to cap.

    https://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/no-crying-over-spilled-milk-for-isu-as-it-heads/article_5a4776d9-4d27-565a-9c9f-9e48d831765f.html

    Good Luck
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    @NFL Brosuf....


    Be very careful with that Northern Iowa team.  I watch more MVC than anyone and I can say that team is a true Jekyl and Hyde.  Combine that with the embarrassment my team, Indiana State, is trying to overcome and the fact that Indiana State is playing for the 6th seed in the conference tourney (which saves them from the first round on Thursday) I think this game is hard to cap.

    https://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/no-crying-over-spilled-milk-for-isu-as-it-heads/article_5a4776d9-4d27-565a-9c9f-9e48d831765f.html

    Good Luck
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:27 PM ET #54

    OK, let me get this officially posted:

    $$$$ = Washington/Oregon State UNDER 155

    Oregon State is a defense-first squad and they play a malleable, 1-2-2 half-court trap/zone that is VERY confusing to teams that are not ready for it nor are built to deal with it.  Washington is a run-first, attack-attack-attack team, but they are very young and can be pushed around a little.  I always say that the pace of a game is dictated by the home team and/or the better team.  Well, OSU is the home team, and they are at least equal to Washington at this point, IMO.  OSU is trying to make a late run at the NCAA Tourney and UW is coming back to earth, probably ending up in the NIT after being in first in the Pac-12 for the first half of the year.  This total is being heavily influenced by what happened in the Oregon/OSU game last weekend, as UW and Oregon are comparable in how they play.  The biggest difference is that this game is in Corvallis and not in Eugene.  Also, Gary Payton Jr., the undisputed leader of Oregon State and probably the most important player to his team in the entire Pac-12, picked up his second foul 6:00 into that game and EVERYTHING just fell apart for OSU at that point.  Oregon started flying around and Oregon State, without their PG and floor leader, stupidly just came along for the ride and let Oregon do whatever they want.  Tonight, I see Oregon State being brutally stubborn and forcing the game to be played at their pace, which is slow and deliberate.  The Beavers REALLY need this game and their only way to win it is to subdue the Huskies’ attack and keep the game as a half-court game.  I expect Washington, with Andrew Andrews and a bunch of teenagers, to be confused and frustrated by OSU’s trap and pace.  Oregon blew out OSU in a high-scoring game last weekend, but Washington is nowhere nearly as good as Oregon and they are easily confused with all the young kids they have on the floor.  The stakes are just too high for the Beavers to not play their game tonight and I think Oregon State controls the pace all game and this game stays under the 155 easily.

     

    Good luck everyone.

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    OK, let me get this officially posted:

    $$$$ = Washington/Oregon State UNDER 155

    Oregon State is a defense-first squad and they play a malleable, 1-2-2 half-court trap/zone that is VERY confusing to teams that are not ready for it nor are built to deal with it.  Washington is a run-first, attack-attack-attack team, but they are very young and can be pushed around a little.  I always say that the pace of a game is dictated by the home team and/or the better team.  Well, OSU is the home team, and they are at least equal to Washington at this point, IMO.  OSU is trying to make a late run at the NCAA Tourney and UW is coming back to earth, probably ending up in the NIT after being in first in the Pac-12 for the first half of the year.  This total is being heavily influenced by what happened in the Oregon/OSU game last weekend, as UW and Oregon are comparable in how they play.  The biggest difference is that this game is in Corvallis and not in Eugene.  Also, Gary Payton Jr., the undisputed leader of Oregon State and probably the most important player to his team in the entire Pac-12, picked up his second foul 6:00 into that game and EVERYTHING just fell apart for OSU at that point.  Oregon started flying around and Oregon State, without their PG and floor leader, stupidly just came along for the ride and let Oregon do whatever they want.  Tonight, I see Oregon State being brutally stubborn and forcing the game to be played at their pace, which is slow and deliberate.  The Beavers REALLY need this game and their only way to win it is to subdue the Huskies’ attack and keep the game as a half-court game.  I expect Washington, with Andrew Andrews and a bunch of teenagers, to be confused and frustrated by OSU’s trap and pace.  Oregon blew out OSU in a high-scoring game last weekend, but Washington is nowhere nearly as good as Oregon and they are easily confused with all the young kids they have on the floor.  The stakes are just too high for the Beavers to not play their game tonight and I think Oregon State controls the pace all game and this game stays under the 155 easily.

     

    Good luck everyone.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:43 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbandit:

    Line remains -4 and 155 on that washington game  on my off shore book.  Got on your under 155 ship holmey. Good luck to all. Bandit .

    Sorry to hear that you will be closing down after the first weekend of NCAA tournament . Plenty of college bball with all the other tournaments: nit , cit etc.. In addition you have inspired the soccer action.  Maybe some other lock thread players may show up.  Great job . Bandit 

    Thanks, bandit.  I have always shut down after the first weekend.  I've always found that they way to do well is get to KNOW a certain conference and how the teams will play against each other.  Once they get out of their conference and play other teams in the tourneys, you never can honestly know how they will match up with those teams or how they will play.  I found I was losing money every year as the NCAA Tourney moved along, so I decided that I need to shut down my account after the first weekend, and it has only been good for me. 

    Not sure if anyone will take this an run with it, but I know others have many times in the past on CBS and the results were just never as good.  I have never thought you can come up with LOCKS in MLB, so ending after NCAA hoops makes the most sense to me.  Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbandit:

    Line remains -4 and 155 on that washington game  on my off shore book.  Got on your under 155 ship holmey. Good luck to all. Bandit .

    Sorry to hear that you will be closing down after the first weekend of NCAA tournament . Plenty of college bball with all the other tournaments: nit , cit etc.. In addition you have inspired the soccer action.  Maybe some other lock thread players may show up.  Great job . Bandit 

    Thanks, bandit.  I have always shut down after the first weekend.  I've always found that they way to do well is get to KNOW a certain conference and how the teams will play against each other.  Once they get out of their conference and play other teams in the tourneys, you never can honestly know how they will match up with those teams or how they will play.  I found I was losing money every year as the NCAA Tourney moved along, so I decided that I need to shut down my account after the first weekend, and it has only been good for me. 

    Not sure if anyone will take this an run with it, but I know others have many times in the past on CBS and the results were just never as good.  I have never thought you can come up with LOCKS in MLB, so ending after NCAA hoops makes the most sense to me.  Thanks!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 2:58 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Yes I do, but I am getting a little concerned about the number of people tailing at this point lol.......

    well add one more! I'm on it too, No pressure brother lol GLA

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    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Yes I do, but I am getting a little concerned about the number of people tailing at this point lol.......

    well add one more! I'm on it too, No pressure brother lol GLA

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Thanks, bandit.  I have always shut down after the first weekend.  I've always found that they way to do well is get to KNOW a certain conference and how the teams will play against each other.  Once they get out of their conference and play other teams in the tourneys, you never can honestly know how they will match up with those teams or how they will play.  I found I was losing money every year as the NCAA Tourney moved along, so I decided that I need to shut down my account after the first weekend, and it has only been good for me. 

    Not sure if anyone will take this an run with it, but I know others have many times in the past on CBS and the results were just never as good.  I have never thought you can come up with LOCKS in MLB, so ending after NCAA hoops makes the most sense to me.  Thanks!


    MLB is a f******king grind.  I agree, not like football or hoops at all where you might get like 5-6 games a week to just unload on.  It's like you have play every game with thin +EV margins and grind out a profit over the long haul.  I was actually in the black last MLB season, but had to pull the plug in late July due to some "off the field" issues.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Thanks, bandit.  I have always shut down after the first weekend.  I've always found that they way to do well is get to KNOW a certain conference and how the teams will play against each other.  Once they get out of their conference and play other teams in the tourneys, you never can honestly know how they will match up with those teams or how they will play.  I found I was losing money every year as the NCAA Tourney moved along, so I decided that I need to shut down my account after the first weekend, and it has only been good for me. 

    Not sure if anyone will take this an run with it, but I know others have many times in the past on CBS and the results were just never as good.  I have never thought you can come up with LOCKS in MLB, so ending after NCAA hoops makes the most sense to me.  Thanks!


    MLB is a f******king grind.  I agree, not like football or hoops at all where you might get like 5-6 games a week to just unload on.  It's like you have play every game with thin +EV margins and grind out a profit over the long haul.  I was actually in the black last MLB season, but had to pull the plug in late July due to some "off the field" issues.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:20 PM ET #58

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5

    Drake is 0-11 on the road this year.  Missouri State beat them on the road earlier this year by 9 after a 50 point second half.  Bears know they were down at half last time and underestimated this team and need to play a full game in order to win here.  Bears are coming off two losses to two better teams (Wichita State and Loyola Chicago who is surging).  Drake is coming off a loss at Bradley which has no talent at all.  The recent competition level differences combined with the Bears at home make this a solid play.  Missouri State is tied for 6th in conference and a win can help keep them out of that first round Arch Madness game as well.  They will bring their best game against Drake tonight and it is senior night!  Line opened at 7 and is now sitting at 5.  I think they cover either one.

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5
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    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5

    Drake is 0-11 on the road this year.  Missouri State beat them on the road earlier this year by 9 after a 50 point second half.  Bears know they were down at half last time and underestimated this team and need to play a full game in order to win here.  Bears are coming off two losses to two better teams (Wichita State and Loyola Chicago who is surging).  Drake is coming off a loss at Bradley which has no talent at all.  The recent competition level differences combined with the Bears at home make this a solid play.  Missouri State is tied for 6th in conference and a win can help keep them out of that first round Arch Madness game as well.  They will bring their best game against Drake tonight and it is senior night!  Line opened at 7 and is now sitting at 5.  I think they cover either one.

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:24 PM ET #59

    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  
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    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:26 PM ET #60

    City!
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    City!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:28 PM ET #61

    Other plays for the day:

    Boston Bruins -115  (3rd best play)
    Bruins/Pens Over 5.5 
    VCU -11
    Michigan -7  (2nd best play)
    And heck might as well be lucky #1000 to join Holmey's under 155 in the Washington Oregon State game.
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    Other plays for the day:

    Boston Bruins -115  (3rd best play)
    Bruins/Pens Over 5.5 
    VCU -11
    Michigan -7  (2nd best play)
    And heck might as well be lucky #1000 to join Holmey's under 155 in the Washington Oregon State game.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:30 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:

    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  

    No, those are the full records.  The thread has only been going for a little over 3 weeks, and not everyone goes with 4 $$$$'s per week and some people haven't been picking from the beginning.

    Everyone will have different numbers of $$$$'s based on how many they do per week and how long they have been participating.  The Standings are based on a MINUMUM of 4 $$$$'s made so far because I can't post everyone who has made 1, 2, or 3 $$$$'s because we are now over 100 people who have made at least one $$$$.

    Does that answer what you are looking for?

    Thanks

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:

    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  

    No, those are the full records.  The thread has only been going for a little over 3 weeks, and not everyone goes with 4 $$$$'s per week and some people haven't been picking from the beginning.

    Everyone will have different numbers of $$$$'s based on how many they do per week and how long they have been participating.  The Standings are based on a MINUMUM of 4 $$$$'s made so far because I can't post everyone who has made 1, 2, or 3 $$$$'s because we are now over 100 people who have made at least one $$$$.

    Does that answer what you are looking for?

    Thanks

     

     
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    Gamecocks -7 for .5U 

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    Gamecocks -7 for .5U 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:

    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  

    Also, let me point out that this is the first time I have run this thread on Covers.  I ran it for a decade on CBS before they closed down their message boards.

    I always run it only during CBB season.  I only bet CBB and CBB has always been the sport that has had the best results on here, and also the sport where people are able to weed out a few LOCKS per week.  There is value in CBB lines unlike any other sport, IMO.

    The O O O OG's are the guys who were over on CBS with me for years.  There are probably 30-35 guys from CBS who have found their way over here in these 3 weeks.  There will be a lot more.  The old thread on CBS used to get over 100,000 Views a day, over 1500 posts, and over 100 LOCKS posted per day.  There are A LOT of OG's floating around out there and they will eventually find their way here, I bet.

    I have all their old LOCK (Covers made me chance the name from "LOCK Thread" to "$$$$ Thread") records, but I always reset each person's record each season, while keeping their old records.  Many people have made over 100 LOCKS/$$$$'s over the years, but I don't always agree that records from 5 years ago matter that much today, so I just use their results from this season of CBB.

    Thanks for the questions.  I hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:

    Holmey, 

    Thanks for all the work you do in your thread. 

    I was hoping you could help me better understand how it works. I've read your Monday posts explaining the $$$$ plays and requirements to qualify. I understand its 1 post per day, 4 posts max per week. 

    I'm not understanding the standings though. Do posters get a certain amount of losses before they get a timeout and then have their record reset when coming back in? The thread seems to only track short term records (last ten games?), which would only be about 2 weeks (@ 4 posts per week). Do you also maintain a separate spreadsheet were you can see overall long term records for frequent posters? Basically, looking at your top 25, how do I know who are the OGs and who are the newbies? Or does that simply come with time of knowing who's consistently at top of rankings? Thanks again.. just trying to better understand so I can properly utilize this nice tool you've created.  

    Also, let me point out that this is the first time I have run this thread on Covers.  I ran it for a decade on CBS before they closed down their message boards.

    I always run it only during CBB season.  I only bet CBB and CBB has always been the sport that has had the best results on here, and also the sport where people are able to weed out a few LOCKS per week.  There is value in CBB lines unlike any other sport, IMO.

    The O O O OG's are the guys who were over on CBS with me for years.  There are probably 30-35 guys from CBS who have found their way over here in these 3 weeks.  There will be a lot more.  The old thread on CBS used to get over 100,000 Views a day, over 1500 posts, and over 100 LOCKS posted per day.  There are A LOT of OG's floating around out there and they will eventually find their way here, I bet.

    I have all their old LOCK (Covers made me chance the name from "LOCK Thread" to "$$$$ Thread") records, but I always reset each person's record each season, while keeping their old records.  Many people have made over 100 LOCKS/$$$$'s over the years, but I don't always agree that records from 5 years ago matter that much today, so I just use their results from this season of CBB.

    Thanks for the questions.  I hope this helps.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 3:57 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    No, those are the full records.  The thread has only been going for a little over 3 weeks, and not everyone goes with 4 $$$$'s per week and some people haven't been picking from the beginning.

    Everyone will have different numbers of $$$$'s based on how many they do per week and how long they have been participating.  The Standings are based on a MINUMUM of 4 $$$$'s made so far because I can't post everyone who has made 1, 2, or 3 $$$$'s because we are now over 100 people who have made at least one $$$$.

    Does that answer what you are looking for?

    Thanks

     


    Ok that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. Great thread! I look forward to following and love the write ups.

    Will the thread continue on throughout Madness? Hope so.. should have some good separation within standings by then. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    No, those are the full records.  The thread has only been going for a little over 3 weeks, and not everyone goes with 4 $$$$'s per week and some people haven't been picking from the beginning.

    Everyone will have different numbers of $$$$'s based on how many they do per week and how long they have been participating.  The Standings are based on a MINUMUM of 4 $$$$'s made so far because I can't post everyone who has made 1, 2, or 3 $$$$'s because we are now over 100 people who have made at least one $$$$.

    Does that answer what you are looking for?

    Thanks

     


    Ok that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. Great thread! I look forward to following and love the write ups.

    Will the thread continue on throughout Madness? Hope so.. should have some good separation within standings by then. 

     
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    Line has moved to -14   

    Quote Originally Posted by rebel1927:

    First play here Holmey - Been following the thread since the start and you do a top notch job managing it and putting that time in.


    $$$$ WICHITA STATE -12.5 @ LOYOLA CHICAGO


    1. This is the time when Wichita just bludgeons these lesser teams to death at the end of the year in case of the rare occasion they need the at large bid. In other words, they want to destroy the spread as much as you do.

    2. Wichita is currently the 3rd ranked defense in the NCAA.

    There are only 13 teams in all of college basketball that score less points a game than Loyola Chicago. This is a massive disparity that should cause the spread to be covered even in a worst case scenario that Wichita has an off shooting night.

    3. The last time these teams played in the final days of January, Loyola was down as much as 30 points with 6 minutes remaining in the game. 

    Wichita has won their last 3 games by an average of 31 points after allowing Northern Iowa to break their 43 game home winning streak - They will continue their angry play tonight against a bad Loyola team tonight and cover the 12.5 points easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel1927:

    First play here Holmey - Been following the thread since the start and you do a top notch job managing it and putting that time in.


    $$$$ WICHITA STATE -12.5 @ LOYOLA CHICAGO


    1. This is the time when Wichita just bludgeons these lesser teams to death at the end of the year in case of the rare occasion they need the at large bid. In other words, they want to destroy the spread as much as you do.

    2. Wichita is currently the 3rd ranked defense in the NCAA.

    There are only 13 teams in all of college basketball that score less points a game than Loyola Chicago. This is a massive disparity that should cause the spread to be covered even in a worst case scenario that Wichita has an off shooting night.

    3. The last time these teams played in the final days of January, Loyola was down as much as 30 points with 6 minutes remaining in the game. 

    Wichita has won their last 3 games by an average of 31 points after allowing Northern Iowa to break their 43 game home winning streak - They will continue their angry play tonight against a bad Loyola team tonight and cover the 12.5 points easily.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 4:07 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:


    Ok that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. Great thread! I look forward to following and love the write ups.

    Will the thread continue on throughout Madness? Hope so.. should have some good separation within standings by then. 

    No problem, GoodTimes.  I shut my account down every year after the first weekend of March Madness, so I will stop the thread after that weekend too.  The 'values' are too hard to find when the games are so scrutinized in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8, IMO.

    Thanks and looking forward to your contributions!  Post a $$$$ or two if you see a play that you think is good enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTimes_SD:


    Ok that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me. Great thread! I look forward to following and love the write ups.

    Will the thread continue on throughout Madness? Hope so.. should have some good separation within standings by then. 

    No problem, GoodTimes.  I shut my account down every year after the first weekend of March Madness, so I will stop the thread after that weekend too.  The 'values' are too hard to find when the games are so scrutinized in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8, IMO.

    Thanks and looking forward to your contributions!  Post a $$$$ or two if you see a play that you think is good enough!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 4:16 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Also, let me point out that this is the first time I have run this thread on Covers.  I ran it for a decade on CBS before they closed down their message boards.

    I always run it only during CBB season.  I only bet CBB and CBB has always been the sport that has had the best results on here, and also the sport where people are able to weed out a few LOCKS per week.  There is value in CBB lines unlike any other sport, IMO.

    The O O O OG's are the guys who were over on CBS with me for years.  There are probably 30-35 guys from CBS who have found their way over here in these 3 weeks.  There will be a lot more.  The old thread on CBS used to get over 100,000 Views a day, over 1500 posts, and over 100 LOCKS posted per day.  There are A LOT of OG's floating around out there and they will eventually find their way here, I bet.

    I have all their old LOCK (Covers made me chance the name from "LOCK Thread" to "$$$$ Thread") records, but I always reset each person's record each season, while keeping their old records.  Many people have made over 100 LOCKS/$$$$'s over the years, but I don't always agree that records from 5 years ago matter that much today, so I just use their results from this season of CBB.

    Thanks for the questions.  I hope this helps.


    Wow thanks for the history OG Holmey! Over a decade is a long time . Much respect on your dedication and what you do for the betting community. Total agree data from 5 years ago doesn't hold a lot of value. I now understand this thread has successful history, but you had to hit the reset button when moving from CBS to covers. It just needs a little time to allow them OGs to separate from the pack within the standings. Thanks again OG Holmey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by USC_Holmey:

    Also, let me point out that this is the first time I have run this thread on Covers.  I ran it for a decade on CBS before they closed down their message boards.

    I always run it only during CBB season.  I only bet CBB and CBB has always been the sport that has had the best results on here, and also the sport where people are able to weed out a few LOCKS per week.  There is value in CBB lines unlike any other sport, IMO.

    The O O O OG's are the guys who were over on CBS with me for years.  There are probably 30-35 guys from CBS who have found their way over here in these 3 weeks.  There will be a lot more.  The old thread on CBS used to get over 100,000 Views a day, over 1500 posts, and over 100 LOCKS posted per day.  There are A LOT of OG's floating around out there and they will eventually find their way here, I bet.

    I have all their old LOCK (Covers made me chance the name from "LOCK Thread" to "$$$$ Thread") records, but I always reset each person's record each season, while keeping their old records.  Many people have made over 100 LOCKS/$$$$'s over the years, but I don't always agree that records from 5 years ago matter that much today, so I just use their results from this season of CBB.

    Thanks for the questions.  I hope this helps.


    Wow thanks for the history OG Holmey! Over a decade is a long time . Much respect on your dedication and what you do for the betting community. Total agree data from 5 years ago doesn't hold a lot of value. I now understand this thread has successful history, but you had to hit the reset button when moving from CBS to covers. It just needs a little time to allow them OGs to separate from the pack within the standings. Thanks again OG Holmey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbaski27:

    @NFL Brosuf....


    Be very careful with that Northern Iowa team.  I watch more MVC than anyone and I can say that team is a true Jekyl and Hyde.  Combine that with the embarrassment my team, Indiana State, is trying to overcome and the fact that Indiana State is playing for the 6th seed in the conference tourney (which saves them from the first round on Thursday) I think this game is hard to cap.

    https://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/no-crying-over-spilled-milk-for-isu-as-it-heads/article_5a4776d9-4d27-565a-9c9f-9e48d831765f.html

    Good Luck


    Totally understood however, if indy state can win this SU, I'll give it to them.  A squirrel needs a nut from time to time.  Like I have said earlier, I have these constraints and if a team can overcome such constraints, I don't mind losing at all.  Matter of fact, I'll even throw in a trophy for balling so well that beats all the stats,  numbers and figures. 

    As for your mizzo state and gamecock, I see reverse line movement.  How much does RLM plays in capping?  I dunno, I'm just saying.  You gave me a warning and now I am going to give you one back.  Penalty offset, first down. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbaski27:

    @NFL Brosuf....


    Be very careful with that Northern Iowa team.  I watch more MVC than anyone and I can say that team is a true Jekyl and Hyde.  Combine that with the embarrassment my team, Indiana State, is trying to overcome and the fact that Indiana State is playing for the 6th seed in the conference tourney (which saves them from the first round on Thursday) I think this game is hard to cap.

    https://www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/no-crying-over-spilled-milk-for-isu-as-it-heads/article_5a4776d9-4d27-565a-9c9f-9e48d831765f.html

    Good Luck


    Totally understood however, if indy state can win this SU, I'll give it to them.  A squirrel needs a nut from time to time.  Like I have said earlier, I have these constraints and if a team can overcome such constraints, I don't mind losing at all.  Matter of fact, I'll even throw in a trophy for balling so well that beats all the stats,  numbers and figures. 

    As for your mizzo state and gamecock, I see reverse line movement.  How much does RLM plays in capping?  I dunno, I'm just saying.  You gave me a warning and now I am going to give you one back.  Penalty offset, first down. 


     
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    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5

    Drake is 0-11 on the road this year.  Missouri State beat them on the road earlier this year by 9 after a 50 point second half.  Bears know they were down at half last time and underestimated this team and need to play a full game in order to win here.  Bears are coming off two losses to two better teams (Wichita State and Loyola Chicago who is surging).  Drake is coming off a loss at Bradley which has no talent at all.  The recent competition level differences combined with the Bears at home make this a solid play.  Missouri State is tied for 6th in conference and a win can help keep them out of that first round Arch Madness game as well.  They will bring their best game against Drake tonight and it is senior night!  Line opened at 7 and is now sitting at 5.  I think they cover either one.

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5


    Gonna tail this one!!  Looks pretty darn good. Having horrible luck betting on visiting teams so this one fits the bill!!  Drake is the Dregs for sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbaski27:

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5

    Drake is 0-11 on the road this year.  Missouri State beat them on the road earlier this year by 9 after a 50 point second half.  Bears know they were down at half last time and underestimated this team and need to play a full game in order to win here.  Bears are coming off two losses to two better teams (Wichita State and Loyola Chicago who is surging).  Drake is coming off a loss at Bradley which has no talent at all.  The recent competition level differences combined with the Bears at home make this a solid play.  Missouri State is tied for 6th in conference and a win can help keep them out of that first round Arch Madness game as well.  They will bring their best game against Drake tonight and it is senior night!  Line opened at 7 and is now sitting at 5.  I think they cover either one.

    $$$$ Missouri State Bears -5


    Gonna tail this one!!  Looks pretty darn good. Having horrible luck betting on visiting teams so this one fits the bill!!  Drake is the Dregs for sure!!

     
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    $$$$ play Lehigh +2

    Lehigh comes into this game winners of 7 straight.  Colgate has split there last 6 alternating wins and losses (tonite is the alternating loss nite if you like streaks).  This is a rematch of a January 27th game in which Lehigh knocked off Colgate 79-70 on its home court. Getting a win on the road will be a challenge for Lehigh but they have room to improve! In its win they turned the ball over 21 times despite their 9 point win. They also tried to send Colgate to the line early and often committing 20 fouls in this game.  Offensively these teams are pretty even on a ppg basis, fg%, and 3 pt shooting. But I like teams that can hit FT's and Lehigh does that at a 73% clip (including 17 for 22 in the first meeting). Defensively Lehigh enjoys an edge in rebounding, blocks, and steals per game. 

    Lehigh comes into this game firing on all cylinders! They enjoy a balanced attack (all 5 starters averaging DD) and should be able to win this one outright. But taking the 2 or even buying a point could put the mind at ease! LEHIGH +2 is the play!
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    $$$$ play Lehigh +2

    Lehigh comes into this game winners of 7 straight.  Colgate has split there last 6 alternating wins and losses (tonite is the alternating loss nite if you like streaks).  This is a rematch of a January 27th game in which Lehigh knocked off Colgate 79-70 on its home court. Getting a win on the road will be a challenge for Lehigh but they have room to improve! In its win they turned the ball over 21 times despite their 9 point win. They also tried to send Colgate to the line early and often committing 20 fouls in this game.  Offensively these teams are pretty even on a ppg basis, fg%, and 3 pt shooting. But I like teams that can hit FT's and Lehigh does that at a 73% clip (including 17 for 22 in the first meeting). Defensively Lehigh enjoys an edge in rebounding, blocks, and steals per game. 

    Lehigh comes into this game firing on all cylinders! They enjoy a balanced attack (all 5 starters averaging DD) and should be able to win this one outright. But taking the 2 or even buying a point could put the mind at ease! LEHIGH +2 is the play!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 4:25 PM ET #72

    Golf for tomorrow kicks off early as they start the Florida swing so I will post my play nows.  Berger would be my $$$$ for tomorrow but at -140 it doesn't qualify for this thread.  I will keep an eye on it and if I see it hit -130 I will $$$$ it up.  

    Golf 2/25/16

    Luke Donald (over Lowry) (6th)
    Koepka (over Grace) (5th)
    Kisner (over Grace) (4th)
    Berger (over Blixt) (1st)
    Sergio (over Casey) (3rd)
    Dufner (over Woodland) (2nd)

    Cheers



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    Golf for tomorrow kicks off early as they start the Florida swing so I will post my play nows.  Berger would be my $$$$ for tomorrow but at -140 it doesn't qualify for this thread.  I will keep an eye on it and if I see it hit -130 I will $$$$ it up.  

    Golf 2/25/16

    Luke Donald (over Lowry) (6th)
    Koepka (over Grace) (5th)
    Kisner (over Grace) (4th)
    Berger (over Blixt) (1st)
    Sergio (over Casey) (3rd)
    Dufner (over Woodland) (2nd)

    Cheers



     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 4:35 PM ET #73

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    San Diego State (-4.5) @ Wyoming

    Bounce back game after last night's debacle.  We have a surging San Diego State squad heading to Laramie on Wednesday night.  The Aztecs are the cream of the crop in a weak MWC but currently find themselves on the edge of the bubble with zero margin for error.

    SDSU is one of my sleeper teams heading into the dance...that is, if they make it in.  A major reason for the Aztecs' tenuous situation is due to an awful start in non-conference play.  That's a thing of the past as they've won 13 of 14.

    The Cowboys should have an advantage playing at altitude but have been rather non-descript at home.  They hitch their wagon to guard Josh Adams, who averages 24 ppg.  Normally this would be cause for concern but the Aztecs are 4th nationally in scoring defense. They can shut down a one man show. 

    Wyoming shoots the ball better than the Aztecs from all parts of the court but defense travels well.  Also, the Aztecs should dominate the Cowboys on the boards with Spencer, Shepherd and Cheatham having a physical advantage over the Wyoming front court.

    Bottom line...I'll take the better defensive team in a must win game - especially when that team is just flat out a better basketball team. 

    $$$$ Pick: San Diego State (-4.5)

     On it @ -4.5! Great write up! Let's roll RF Dawg! #Get that 5-0

    Time for Aztecs to turn up. I don't know about wearing my Aztec gear in Vegas during Madness if they don't make it. Tell you what Aztecs, win this one and I'll go out and buy a new hat in preparation of Madness. 
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    San Diego State (-4.5) @ Wyoming

    Bounce back game after last night's debacle.  We have a surging San Diego State squad heading to Laramie on Wednesday night.  The Aztecs are the cream of the crop in a weak MWC but currently find themselves on the edge of the bubble with zero margin for error.

    SDSU is one of my sleeper teams heading into the dance...that is, if they make it in.  A major reason for the Aztecs' tenuous situation is due to an awful start in non-conference play.  That's a thing of the past as they've won 13 of 14.

    The Cowboys should have an advantage playing at altitude but have been rather non-descript at home.  They hitch their wagon to guard Josh Adams, who averages 24 ppg.  Normally this would be cause for concern but the Aztecs are 4th nationally in scoring defense. They can shut down a one man show. 

    Wyoming shoots the ball better than the Aztecs from all parts of the court but defense travels well.  Also, the Aztecs should dominate the Cowboys on the boards with Spencer, Shepherd and Cheatham having a physical advantage over the Wyoming front court.

    Bottom line...I'll take the better defensive team in a must win game - especially when that team is just flat out a better basketball team. 

    $$$$ Pick: San Diego State (-4.5)

     On it @ -4.5! Great write up! Let's roll RF Dawg! #Get that 5-0

    Time for Aztecs to turn up. I don't know about wearing my Aztec gear in Vegas during Madness if they don't make it. Tell you what Aztecs, win this one and I'll go out and buy a new hat in preparation of Madness. 
     
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    $$$$ Villanova -1.5 killed em 95-64 won both games 2014-15 on the road easily 78-66 & 77-70 nice number one team in the nation bid item since 2014 6-0 ATS plus SU lost last time 2006 conference record better 13-1 lost to Prov in OT -6 Xavier 12-3 lost to Creighton Georgetown and Nova. Villanova better 3point shooting team since Ryan Arcidiacono hit 7 three in there rout over Xavier also Kris Jenkins top on team with 55 threes add Ryan Arcidiacono has 17 assists & no turnovers
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    $$$$ Villanova -1.5 killed em 95-64 won both games 2014-15 on the road easily 78-66 & 77-70 nice number one team in the nation bid item since 2014 6-0 ATS plus SU lost last time 2006 conference record better 13-1 lost to Prov in OT -6 Xavier 12-3 lost to Creighton Georgetown and Nova. Villanova better 3point shooting team since Ryan Arcidiacono hit 7 three in there rout over Xavier also Kris Jenkins top on team with 55 threes add Ryan Arcidiacono has 17 assists & no turnovers
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2016 - 5:02 PM ET #75

    Bulls vs wizards for the NBA

    With the spread so small, the SU record is at play here.  Bulls are 18-10 at home.  Bulls lost to washington earlier this season at their house so they are going to get revenge in this game.  Will history repeats itself?  Is washington a team that is giving the bulls a hard time at home?  Maybe it is due to bull's injury.  Yep, that must be the case.  No Jimmy Butler, Joakim Noah, and Niko Mirotic

    Washington won yesterday and is playing tired.  Bulls won 2 in a row with impressive win of 10 or more points when playing at home.  The difference here is who house it is and who is playing rested.  Bulls had 2 days rest. 

    Da Bulls are:
    • 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games after scoring more than 125 points in their previous game.
    • 11-5 ATS in their last 16 games playing on 2 days rest.

    For the Nba, give me chicago bulls -1.5 @ home. 


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    Bulls vs wizards for the NBA

    With the spread so small, the SU record is at play here.  Bulls are 18-10 at home.  Bulls lost to washington earlier this season at their house so they are going to get revenge in this game.  Will history repeats itself?  Is washington a team that is giving the bulls a hard time at home?  Maybe it is due to bull's injury.  Yep, that must be the case.  No Jimmy Butler, Joakim Noah, and Niko Mirotic

    Washington won yesterday and is playing tired.  Bulls won 2 in a row with impressive win of 10 or more points when playing at home.  The difference here is who house it is and who is playing rested.  Bulls had 2 days rest. 

    Da Bulls are:
    • 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games after scoring more than 125 points in their previous game.
    • 11-5 ATS in their last 16 games playing on 2 days rest.

    For the Nba, give me chicago bulls -1.5 @ home. 


    I bet it and i forget about it.


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