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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 3:03 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:

    To those that said "VTech always plays Duke close", where are you seeing that?  In their last 6 VTech has one win (last year), 4 of the other 5 were Duke DD wins and the other was a 7pt win.  Not that any of that matters, since the teams are not the same. But VTech last year was MUCH more competitive, and despite the fact that Duke is not as dominant as years past, they should have no issue winning this by 10+.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:

    To those that said "VTech always plays Duke close", where are you seeing that?  In their last 6 VTech has one win (last year), 4 of the other 5 were Duke DD wins and the other was a 7pt win.  Not that any of that matters, since the teams are not the same. But VTech last year was MUCH more competitive, and despite the fact that Duke is not as dominant as years past, they should have no issue winning this by 10+.

     

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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 4:21 PM ET #52

    I wasn't going to post anything, but here we go. 

    Duke fan of 20+ years here, haven't missed an ACC game now in I think 6 years. I tend to be pessimistic on Duke (bet FSU ML in Cameron which is sacrilege, but I did think Terps would cover). All that said, there's like no way Duke loses tonight.

    If you want to know when to bet against Duke this year here's the answer key - teams with high offensive efficiency or elite athleticism at the 1 and 2 spots. Just go through their losses - 

    OSU - AdjO 14 and elite back court and home court = blowout of embarrassing proportions. 
    Temple - AdjO 23 and no answer for Temple's backcourt especially Wyatt
    FSU - the definition of elite athelticism and their AdjO is actually now down to 84 when it was 184 less than a month ago. 

    Problem is VTech doesn't have nearly good enough offense or defense. Their 3point defense number is HUGELY inflated. It's 25% for all games, but it's closer to 32% for conference games and ranks near the bottom in a really bad ACC. And the fatal blow for VTech is they can't exploit Duke's issues nearly as bad as other teams - Duke's defense is ATROCIOUS the worst it's been in maybe 15 years sans watching Greg Paulus trying to defend Eric Maynor (sigh), but VTech's offense isn't nearly good enough to really hurt Duke's deficiencies. 

    At -3 this line was a HUGE mistake and the line movement quick and fast proves that and I pounded that all last night. At 5.5 I think you might still be safe, but 6 points on the road with a poor defense is getting to the "too many" range. If you buy points, buy them in Duke's direction, if you're going to play a ML, play Duke. VTech has lost 3 in a row at home, Blacksburg isn't what it was last year. Duke puts the final nail in the coffin of VTech's season. 
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    I wasn't going to post anything, but here we go. 

    Duke fan of 20+ years here, haven't missed an ACC game now in I think 6 years. I tend to be pessimistic on Duke (bet FSU ML in Cameron which is sacrilege, but I did think Terps would cover). All that said, there's like no way Duke loses tonight.

    If you want to know when to bet against Duke this year here's the answer key - teams with high offensive efficiency or elite athleticism at the 1 and 2 spots. Just go through their losses - 

    OSU - AdjO 14 and elite back court and home court = blowout of embarrassing proportions. 
    Temple - AdjO 23 and no answer for Temple's backcourt especially Wyatt
    FSU - the definition of elite athelticism and their AdjO is actually now down to 84 when it was 184 less than a month ago. 

    Problem is VTech doesn't have nearly good enough offense or defense. Their 3point defense number is HUGELY inflated. It's 25% for all games, but it's closer to 32% for conference games and ranks near the bottom in a really bad ACC. And the fatal blow for VTech is they can't exploit Duke's issues nearly as bad as other teams - Duke's defense is ATROCIOUS the worst it's been in maybe 15 years sans watching Greg Paulus trying to defend Eric Maynor (sigh), but VTech's offense isn't nearly good enough to really hurt Duke's deficiencies. 

    At -3 this line was a HUGE mistake and the line movement quick and fast proves that and I pounded that all last night. At 5.5 I think you might still be safe, but 6 points on the road with a poor defense is getting to the "too many" range. If you buy points, buy them in Duke's direction, if you're going to play a ML, play Duke. VTech has lost 3 in a row at home, Blacksburg isn't what it was last year. Duke puts the final nail in the coffin of VTech's season. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 5:22 PM ET #54

    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

     

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20

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    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

     

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 7:49 PM ET #56

    V-TECH IS DEAD
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 7:52 PM ET #57

    so after all vegas is also only humans
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    so after all vegas is also only humans
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 7:53 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by catera123:

    V-TECH IS DEAD

    just like vegas

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    Quote Originally Posted by catera123:

    V-TECH IS DEAD

    just like vegas

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 7:58 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

     

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20


    easy there, UNLV won by TEN, 20 would be absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

     

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20


    easy there, UNLV won by TEN, 20 would be absurd.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:00 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by joga0401:


    easy there, UNLV won by TEN, 20 would be absurd.

    Pretty sure he meant covered by 20 (18 to be exact).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joga0401:


    easy there, UNLV won by TEN, 20 would be absurd.

    Pretty sure he meant covered by 20 (18 to be exact).
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:02 PM ET #61

    all the covers veterans taking Va Tech thinking this is a "square" play. We'll see in second half but Va Tech looks like shit

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    all the covers veterans taking Va Tech thinking this is a "square" play. We'll see in second half but Va Tech looks like shit

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:11 PM ET #62

    Any time you get Duke playin team that beat them last yr and its under 6 ITS GOLDEN
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    Any time you get Duke playin team that beat them last yr and its under 6 ITS GOLDEN
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 8:23 PM ET #63

    duke looking good who ever stated that vegas kept the line low to fuck with our heads was right.  Is there a high consensus pick going right now in the favor of the book cuz duke looks like they re gonna ho;ld on maybe one of the ten o clock games ? gonzaga?
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    duke looking good who ever stated that vegas kept the line low to fuck with our heads was right.  Is there a high consensus pick going right now in the favor of the book cuz duke looks like they re gonna ho;ld on maybe one of the ten o clock games ? gonzaga?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20


    Another person with no clue.

    Look people, if the answer key was in how Vegas sets the lines, everyone would win. Following this reasoning blindly will lose you money. Anyone thinking Vtech had a prayer to win tonight doesn't know either team well enough to be placing bets. 

    Again, the formula for beating Duke is out there people and Vtech never had the horses to beat them. 

    Easiest money all year, can't believe anyone thought Vtech was any good. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    As I said, line will rise to 5.  The line was not a mistake.  I think va Tech wins, but knew to wait because public would drive it up and sharps who waited will drive it back down.

    When UNC only came out -5 against UNLV, everyone jumped on it and called it a mistake.  I waited for best number and grabbed +8.  UNLV won by 20


    Another person with no clue.

    Look people, if the answer key was in how Vegas sets the lines, everyone would win. Following this reasoning blindly will lose you money. Anyone thinking Vtech had a prayer to win tonight doesn't know either team well enough to be placing bets. 

    Again, the formula for beating Duke is out there people and Vtech never had the horses to beat them. 

    Easiest money all year, can't believe anyone thought Vtech was any good. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagrin:


    Another person with no clue.

    Look people, if the answer key was in how Vegas sets the lines, everyone would win. Following this reasoning blindly will lose you money. Anyone thinking Vtech had a prayer to win tonight doesn't know either team well enough to be placing bets. 

    Again, the formula for beating Duke is out there people and Vtech never had the horses to beat them. 

    Easiest money all year, can't believe anyone thought Vtech was any good. 

    BINGO!!  I asked Stuckey if he was playing Hokies SU, never got an answer!  Don't bet against K, when he's pissed!!

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    Another person with no clue.

    Look people, if the answer key was in how Vegas sets the lines, everyone would win. Following this reasoning blindly will lose you money. Anyone thinking Vtech had a prayer to win tonight doesn't know either team well enough to be placing bets. 

    Again, the formula for beating Duke is out there people and Vtech never had the horses to beat them. 

    Easiest money all year, can't believe anyone thought Vtech was any good. 

    BINGO!!  I asked Stuckey if he was playing Hokies SU, never got an answer!  Don't bet against K, when he's pissed!!

     
     
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