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    Indigo999
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2017 - 2:51 AM ET #1

    Season to date 4-1, +2.95 units.

    I am not estimating what  lines Vegas will put out, but giving my relative strength of teams.  I do this to put down my thoughts down in writing and also to promote discussion among CFL cappers.   

    If you feel this can benefit you, great,  if you don't get the premise, ignore, and if you think these lines are totally off, fade them to make money for yourself.  I am not doing this to show superiority in my thinking, but to make money, period.  If someone has a different angle to my thinking, I think that is great, as long as you are more correct than Las Vegas.  

    Different opinions are what makes a market, right?

    1)  Montreal   +3     British Columbia   51

    2)  Winnipeg   pik   Calgary                 56

    3)  Ottawa      -6     Toronto                 55

    4)  Sask          -3     Hamilton              55

    I've mentioned this before, but it probably it can't be repeated enough,...the CFL is a dog and UNDER league......ESPECIALLY in the first six weeks of the season this is the case.  Dogs, if you have not noticed have gone 8-0 so far.  Probably we won't hear of any bankruptcy notices from Las Vegas sportsbooks next week, because despite this being a clear trend for many years, people still are betting favorites and OVERs in the CFL, just like people are going to Vegas and putting money into slot machines. 

    Probably the Vegas books think CFL betting is the best thing going, because it is just more difficult  by human nature to bet on a team when it "just doesn't make sense", which is usually underdogs.   This is the essence of life though, change and unpredictability are inevitable.....maybe just betting that the CFL is not predictable is a winning strategy in and of itself.

    An example of that is for me, the WNBA....I was a basketball guy and I know the game, and this year, I've watched  A LOT of WNBA games because I like it.  Has it helped my handicapping?  Nope, I've been pathetic at it this year, much better at it last year, when I watched only occasionally ,...and I've been a poor NBA capper as well in my past when I thought I could use my insight to beat the spread.  Knowledge of the game doesn't get you the money, that's why quants and nerds that have never played the game make money and ex-coaches and players don't at sports betting.

    Non-divisional dogs have been better than divisional dogs throughout my database history.

    One example to the "underdogs rule" is in  the case where the home favorite has a worse record than their opponent, that has basically been a break-even scenario for divisional games.....which relates to the Redblacks who will be favored over the Argos in week 3 despite having a worse record.

    The record  for a home favorite in a non divisional game with a worse win/loss record has been 4-10 ATS in the first six weeks, which may happen if the Riders at home versus the Tiger Cats are favored this coming week.

    I believe that Mister Las Vegas will make the Stampeders favorites over the Bombers by as much as 3 points, and I'll be interested in taking the Bombers if they are an underdog @home.

    Good fortune.


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    Season to date 4-1, +2.95 units.

    I am not estimating what  lines Vegas will put out, but giving my relative strength of teams.  I do this to put down my thoughts down in writing and also to promote discussion among CFL cappers.   

    If you feel this can benefit you, great,  if you don't get the premise, ignore, and if you think these lines are totally off, fade them to make money for yourself.  I am not doing this to show superiority in my thinking, but to make money, period.  If someone has a different angle to my thinking, I think that is great, as long as you are more correct than Las Vegas.  

    Different opinions are what makes a market, right?

    1)  Montreal   +3     British Columbia   51

    2)  Winnipeg   pik   Calgary                 56

    3)  Ottawa      -6     Toronto                 55

    4)  Sask          -3     Hamilton              55

    I've mentioned this before, but it probably it can't be repeated enough,...the CFL is a dog and UNDER league......ESPECIALLY in the first six weeks of the season this is the case.  Dogs, if you have not noticed have gone 8-0 so far.  Probably we won't hear of any bankruptcy notices from Las Vegas sportsbooks next week, because despite this being a clear trend for many years, people still are betting favorites and OVERs in the CFL, just like people are going to Vegas and putting money into slot machines. 

    Probably the Vegas books think CFL betting is the best thing going, because it is just more difficult  by human nature to bet on a team when it "just doesn't make sense", which is usually underdogs.   This is the essence of life though, change and unpredictability are inevitable.....maybe just betting that the CFL is not predictable is a winning strategy in and of itself.

    An example of that is for me, the WNBA....I was a basketball guy and I know the game, and this year, I've watched  A LOT of WNBA games because I like it.  Has it helped my handicapping?  Nope, I've been pathetic at it this year, much better at it last year, when I watched only occasionally ,...and I've been a poor NBA capper as well in my past when I thought I could use my insight to beat the spread.  Knowledge of the game doesn't get you the money, that's why quants and nerds that have never played the game make money and ex-coaches and players don't at sports betting.

    Non-divisional dogs have been better than divisional dogs throughout my database history.

    One example to the "underdogs rule" is in  the case where the home favorite has a worse record than their opponent, that has basically been a break-even scenario for divisional games.....which relates to the Redblacks who will be favored over the Argos in week 3 despite having a worse record.

    The record  for a home favorite in a non divisional game with a worse win/loss record has been 4-10 ATS in the first six weeks, which may happen if the Riders at home versus the Tiger Cats are favored this coming week.

    I believe that Mister Las Vegas will make the Stampeders favorites over the Bombers by as much as 3 points, and I'll be interested in taking the Bombers if they are an underdog @home.

    Good fortune.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2017 - 2:55 AM ET #2

    One correction.

    Fourth paragraph from the bottom...."One example" should be edited to "One exception"
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    Fourth paragraph from the bottom...."One example" should be edited to "One exception"
     
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    1)  Montreal   +3     British Columbia   51 

    2)  Winnipeg   pik   Calgary                 56

    3)  Ottawa      -6     Toronto                 55

    4)  Sask          -3     Hamilton              55

    My wish list this week.

    Calgary under 60 

    Argo's +6 would be a gem.

    Hamilton + anything I am in.

    Gonna have to wait until money and with the holiday weekend it might be later then that. 
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    1)  Montreal   +3     British Columbia   51 

    2)  Winnipeg   pik   Calgary                 56

    3)  Ottawa      -6     Toronto                 55

    4)  Sask          -3     Hamilton              55

    My wish list this week.

    Calgary under 60 

    Argo's +6 would be a gem.

    Hamilton + anything I am in.

    Gonna have to wait until money and with the holiday weekend it might be later then that. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2017 - 3:36 AM ET #4

    opps correction


    Gonna have to wait until Monday and with the holiday weekend it might be later then that


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    Gonna have to wait until Monday and with the holiday weekend it might be later then that


     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2017 - 4:05 AM ET #5

    You're starting off the season well Spot...just don't forget to polish that crystal ball.

    Leans:  

    1)  Calgary if underdog (think they will be favored) 
    2)  Hamilton +
    3)  Ottawa -
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    You're starting off the season well Spot...just don't forget to polish that crystal ball.

    Leans:  

    1)  Calgary if underdog (think they will be favored) 
    2)  Hamilton +
    3)  Ottawa -
     
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    Yes Indigo If I want to be considered a good CFLer I have to pick up my game.  You raised the bar last year and so far its the same old song, and that is a good thing 


    You like Ottawa ?  I guess a part of that makes sense, but I am still thinking of how bad the East was last year and Ottawa had a record of 8-9 last year.  My team trends for Ottawa say fade them laying -6 or more and take them when the are <-3 or dogs.

    I know you are not a team trend person but seeing their record and knowing dogs cover it makes sense that if they lay too many points my first look will always be to the points.

    Could there be a let down for Ottawa this week after playing Calgary the last two weeks?  
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    Yes Indigo If I want to be considered a good CFLer I have to pick up my game.  You raised the bar last year and so far its the same old song, and that is a good thing 


    You like Ottawa ?  I guess a part of that makes sense, but I am still thinking of how bad the East was last year and Ottawa had a record of 8-9 last year.  My team trends for Ottawa say fade them laying -6 or more and take them when the are <-3 or dogs.

    I know you are not a team trend person but seeing their record and knowing dogs cover it makes sense that if they lay too many points my first look will always be to the points.

    Could there be a let down for Ottawa this week after playing Calgary the last two weeks?  
     
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    Yes, could be a letdown for Ottawa, still mulling that one over...this looks like a tough week.....teams with a WP less than their opponents in division play have been 42-30 ATS as home favorites, although only 2-4 before week 5 when playing with no wins.  And Toronto has that Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde thing where they are good on the road and terrible at home.....wheels are turnin', turnin'.

    Winless non-division home favorites have been 3-1 in week 3....I expect the Green Riders to be favorites.

    Home teams off an overtime loss have been 1-5-1 ATS though, losing all three as a home favorite which correlates to Saskatchewan's situation.

    Teams off an away loss and having >8 days of rest have been 6-2 ATS as away dogs......Hamilton

    At the end of the day though, I'll probably use this as my final "go-to" query....

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    Yes, could be a letdown for Ottawa, still mulling that one over...this looks like a tough week.....teams with a WP less than their opponents in division play have been 42-30 ATS as home favorites, although only 2-4 before week 5 when playing with no wins.  And Toronto has that Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde thing where they are good on the road and terrible at home.....wheels are turnin', turnin'.

    Winless non-division home favorites have been 3-1 in week 3....I expect the Green Riders to be favorites.

    Home teams off an overtime loss have been 1-5-1 ATS though, losing all three as a home favorite which correlates to Saskatchewan's situation.

    Teams off an away loss and having >8 days of rest have been 6-2 ATS as away dogs......Hamilton

    At the end of the day though, I'll probably use this as my final "go-to" query....

    t:wins<=o:wins and HF and week<5
     
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    the last 26 times this situation occurred. 


    t:wins<=o:wins and HF and week<5 and date >=20140710




    I like what you do,  then I see certain things so I investigate further on what you have already provided.

    Maybe there is merit to my tweaking, maybe it is random but this is what I found.


    t:wins<=o:wins and HF and week<5 and line >-5 and date >=20130711
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    the last 26 times this situation occurred. 


    t:wins<=o:wins and HF and week<5 and date >=20140710




    I like what you do,  then I see certain things so I investigate further on what you have already provided.

    Maybe there is merit to my tweaking, maybe it is random but this is what I found.


    t:wins<=o:wins and HF and week<5 and line >-5 and date >=20130711
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2017 - 8:30 PM ET #9

    Nice find Spot....if these teams are dogs I'll be ON them.

    Argonauts, Tiger Cats, Alouettes

    Waiting on the line for the Stamps/Bombers....want to fade the Stamps but will wait to see the line.  

    If Stamps are dogs???....we'll see.

    The most iffy dogs to play historically in the CFL have been home dog divisional games,...........every other subset has been good in the past.
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    Nice find Spot....if these teams are dogs I'll be ON them.

    Argonauts, Tiger Cats, Alouettes

    Waiting on the line for the Stamps/Bombers....want to fade the Stamps but will wait to see the line.  

    If Stamps are dogs???....we'll see.

    The most iffy dogs to play historically in the CFL have been home dog divisional games,...........every other subset has been good in the past.
     
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    Nice write up and read as always Indigo.. 
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    Nice write up and read as always Indigo.. 
     
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    Aussie do you like team trends ?

    totals in the Al's games when the line is 51 or higher 

    ( I went against this last week because the line dipped to 48.5 midweek so with Edmonton playing I thought there would be some scoring.  Silly me)

    t:team = Alouettes and date >= 20130224 and total >=51
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    Aussie do you like team trends ?

    totals in the Al's games when the line is 51 or higher 

    ( I went against this last week because the line dipped to 48.5 midweek so with Edmonton playing I thought there would be some scoring.  Silly me)

    t:team = Alouettes and date >= 20130224 and total >=51
     
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    This also backs up the way the Als play.  Clock eating short passing game with RB's like Sutton and sure handed slow butt WR Nik Lewis 

    t:team = Alouettes and date >= 20120916 and total >=51 and line >=1

    If the Al's are dogs and the total is 51 or higher.
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    This also backs up the way the Als play.  Clock eating short passing game with RB's like Sutton and sure handed slow butt WR Nik Lewis 

    t:team = Alouettes and date >= 20120916 and total >=51 and line >=1

    If the Al's are dogs and the total is 51 or higher.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 1:09 PM ET #14

    Openers have arrived....as usual there is one surprise.....my line in brackets.

    1)  Montreal     +3 -100      (+3)      BC          49.5   (51)

    2)  Winnipeg   +3.5           (pik)     Calgary    56     (56) 

    3)  Ottawa        -5.5            (-6)      Toronto    55     (55)

    4)  Sask          -2.5             (-3)      Hamilton  53.5  (55)


    Obviously, my view (and that of Hoody's) view of the relative strength of Winnipeg/Calgary is off....but who cares?...this isn't a contest to see who can make the best line.....it's about winning.  I want to look deeper into that game.

    First bet.....

    1)  Montreal +3 +101

    Teams with an equal or worse record as their opponents when home non-divisional dog have been 14-10 the first four weeks of the season and 8-3 if they are off a loss and their opponent is off a win.

    Teams off a loss with their opponents off a win with a worse net ATS margin within the first six weeks of the season, playing as a home underdog have been 6-3 ATS and SU.....if their net ATS margin their previous games <0 the record improves to 6-2 ATS and SU. 

    tA(ats margin)<oA(ats margin) and HD and not DIV  and week<6 and p:L and op:W and tA(ats margin)<0.

    Covering by an average of 8.88 points/game.

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    Openers have arrived....as usual there is one surprise.....my line in brackets.

    1)  Montreal     +3 -100      (+3)      BC          49.5   (51)

    2)  Winnipeg   +3.5           (pik)     Calgary    56     (56) 

    3)  Ottawa        -5.5            (-6)      Toronto    55     (55)

    4)  Sask          -2.5             (-3)      Hamilton  53.5  (55)


    Obviously, my view (and that of Hoody's) view of the relative strength of Winnipeg/Calgary is off....but who cares?...this isn't a contest to see who can make the best line.....it's about winning.  I want to look deeper into that game.

    First bet.....

    1)  Montreal +3 +101

    Teams with an equal or worse record as their opponents when home non-divisional dog have been 14-10 the first four weeks of the season and 8-3 if they are off a loss and their opponent is off a win.

    Teams off a loss with their opponents off a win with a worse net ATS margin within the first six weeks of the season, playing as a home underdog have been 6-3 ATS and SU.....if their net ATS margin their previous games <0 the record improves to 6-2 ATS and SU. 

    tA(ats margin)<oA(ats margin) and HD and not DIV  and week<6 and p:L and op:W and tA(ats margin)<0.

    Covering by an average of 8.88 points/game.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 1:22 PM ET #15

    The Winnipeg line of +3.5 is meant to scare off prospective Stampeder money and to entice Bomber money.  The linesmaker is predicting that they'll get a lot of Calgary money and they are picking a side, which happens approximately 20% of the time.

    Home divisional underdogs off an away dog win have been 3-9 ATS first 11 weeks of the season, 2-10 OVER.

    p:ADW and HD and DIV and week<12

    losing by 3.21 points/game and going UNDER by an average of 8.42 points/game.

    Initial thoughts are that I have a no-play as I believe Calgary will be a fade team this season, but the data is telling me this is not a good situation for the Bombers.  If the public bets this game up to 4.5 or so, then MAYBE, I'd take the Bombers.  

    Trying to get inside the head of Calgary, they've just had back-to-backs with the defending champs, had two tough games, and now they go into a tough divisional rivalry team's home ground........the situation definitely favors the Bombers.
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    The Winnipeg line of +3.5 is meant to scare off prospective Stampeder money and to entice Bomber money.  The linesmaker is predicting that they'll get a lot of Calgary money and they are picking a side, which happens approximately 20% of the time.

    Home divisional underdogs off an away dog win have been 3-9 ATS first 11 weeks of the season, 2-10 OVER.

    p:ADW and HD and DIV and week<12

    losing by 3.21 points/game and going UNDER by an average of 8.42 points/game.

    Initial thoughts are that I have a no-play as I believe Calgary will be a fade team this season, but the data is telling me this is not a good situation for the Bombers.  If the public bets this game up to 4.5 or so, then MAYBE, I'd take the Bombers.  

    Trying to get inside the head of Calgary, they've just had back-to-backs with the defending champs, had two tough games, and now they go into a tough divisional rivalry team's home ground........the situation definitely favors the Bombers.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 1:26 PM ET #16

    p:ADW and HD and DIV  and t:wins=o:wins

    or maybe I won't be interested in the Bombers whatsoever....
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    p:ADW and HD and DIV  and t:wins=o:wins

    or maybe I won't be interested in the Bombers whatsoever....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 1:48 PM ET #17

    2)  Toronto +5.5

    Teams off an away dog loss, playing as a home divisional favorite, playing a team that just lost as a home favorite have been 1-9 ATS the first 11 weeks of the season.

    HF  and DIV  and p:ADL and op:HFL and week<11 

    Taking the Argos, who as been solid as an away dog throughout the years at around 54-55%.

    Failed to mention that the Lions have been terrible as away favorites, 13-23 ATS and 2-7 ATS first six weeks.




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    2)  Toronto +5.5

    Teams off an away dog loss, playing as a home divisional favorite, playing a team that just lost as a home favorite have been 1-9 ATS the first 11 weeks of the season.

    HF  and DIV  and p:ADL and op:HFL and week<11 

    Taking the Argos, who as been solid as an away dog throughout the years at around 54-55%.

    Failed to mention that the Lions have been terrible as away favorites, 13-23 ATS and 2-7 ATS first six weeks.




     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 2:00 PM ET #18

    Sask/Hamilton is a tweener game,....if money takes this to + for the Green Riders I'd take them, or if it gets to -3, I'll be on the Tiger Cats, at 2.5 it's a no-play for me.

    I'll wait out the totals as the public bets into them....first six weeks, UNDERs have hit at a 55% rate thoughout the history of the database.

    Home divisional dogs have gone under 64% of the time (9-16, -4.68) first six weeks....Calgary/'Peg.
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    Sask/Hamilton is a tweener game,....if money takes this to + for the Green Riders I'd take them, or if it gets to -3, I'll be on the Tiger Cats, at 2.5 it's a no-play for me.

    I'll wait out the totals as the public bets into them....first six weeks, UNDERs have hit at a 55% rate thoughout the history of the database.

    Home divisional dogs have gone under 64% of the time (9-16, -4.68) first six weeks....Calgary/'Peg.
     
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    Once again nice work 
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    What do you have for Ham after a bye wk , in that bag of greater then less than , more than etc:
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    What do you have for Ham after a bye wk , in that bag of greater then less than , more than etc:
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Openers have arrived....as usual there is one surprise.....my line in brackets.

    1)  Montreal     +3 -100      (+3)      BC          49.5   (51)

    2)  Winnipeg   +3.5           (pik)     Calgary    56     (56) 

    3)  Ottawa        -5.5            (-6)      Toronto    55     (55)

    4)  Sask          -2.5             (-3)      Hamilton  53.5  (55)


    Obviously, my view (and that of Hoody's) view of the relative strength of Winnipeg/Calgary is off....but who cares?...this isn't a contest to see who can make the best line.....it's about winning.  I want to look deeper into that game.

    First bet.....

    1)  Montreal +3 +101

    Teams with an equal or worse record as their opponents when home non-divisional dog have been 14-10 the first four weeks of the season and 8-3 if they are off a loss and their opponent is off a win.

    Teams off a loss with their opponents off a win with a worse net ATS margin within the first six weeks of the season, playing as a home underdog have been 6-3 ATS and SU.....if their net ATS margin their previous games <0 the record improves to 6-2 ATS and SU. 

    tA(ats margin)

    Covering by an average of 8.88 points/game.



    How about Montreal +2.5? That's what I have. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Openers have arrived....as usual there is one surprise.....my line in brackets.

    1)  Montreal     +3 -100      (+3)      BC          49.5   (51)

    2)  Winnipeg   +3.5           (pik)     Calgary    56     (56) 

    3)  Ottawa        -5.5            (-6)      Toronto    55     (55)

    4)  Sask          -2.5             (-3)      Hamilton  53.5  (55)


    Obviously, my view (and that of Hoody's) view of the relative strength of Winnipeg/Calgary is off....but who cares?...this isn't a contest to see who can make the best line.....it's about winning.  I want to look deeper into that game.

    First bet.....

    1)  Montreal +3 +101

    Teams with an equal or worse record as their opponents when home non-divisional dog have been 14-10 the first four weeks of the season and 8-3 if they are off a loss and their opponent is off a win.

    Teams off a loss with their opponents off a win with a worse net ATS margin within the first six weeks of the season, playing as a home underdog have been 6-3 ATS and SU.....if their net ATS margin their previous games <0 the record improves to 6-2 ATS and SU. 

    tA(ats margin)

    Covering by an average of 8.88 points/game.



    How about Montreal +2.5? That's what I have. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2017 - 3:45 PM ET #22

    This is how it breaks down....Tiger Cats/Riders

    rest>8 and AD                                    28-26 ATS        27-28 O/U

    p:L and rest>8 and AD                        18-13 ATS       15-16 O/U

    p:L and rest>8 and not DIV and AD    13-4 ATS             8-9 O/U

    p:AL and rest>8 and not DIV and AD   6-2  ATS             5-3 O/U

    p:L and and rest>8 and not DIV and AD and week<16  
    13-1 ATS             6-8 O/U
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    This is how it breaks down....Tiger Cats/Riders

    rest>8 and AD                                    28-26 ATS        27-28 O/U

    p:L and rest>8 and AD                        18-13 ATS       15-16 O/U

    p:L and rest>8 and not DIV and AD    13-4 ATS             8-9 O/U

    p:AL and rest>8 and not DIV and AD   6-2  ATS             5-3 O/U

    p:L and and rest>8 and not DIV and AD and week<16  
    13-1 ATS             6-8 O/U
     
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    good luck this week
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    Make your decision Ju_lie....I am making mine according to what the line is at the time I'm betting.

    It's your money, your decision....I've put out all the data that went into my decision making process....you can look at what I am sharing with the forum for you to play, fade or pass.

    If you want me to be your money manager then perhaps that will require us to enter into a contractual situation.
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    Make your decision Ju_lie....I am making mine according to what the line is at the time I'm betting.

    It's your money, your decision....I've put out all the data that went into my decision making process....you can look at what I am sharing with the forum for you to play, fade or pass.

    If you want me to be your money manager then perhaps that will require us to enter into a contractual situation.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Make your decision Ju_lie....I am making mine according to what the line is at the time I'm betting.

    It's your money, your decision....I've put out all the data that went into my decision making process....you can look at what I am sharing with the forum for you to play, fade or pass.

    If you want me to be your money manager then perhaps that will require us to enter into a contractual situation.

    Hey Indigo below is the link to what my book has for the lines. Right now Al's +2.5, Bomber +3.5, Argos +5 & Ticats +1. Which dogs do you feel most strongly to cover and which would you stay away from?

    https://www.bet365.com/?&cb=10326424579#/AC/B12/C20534156/D48/E36/F36/P^48/Q^36/I0


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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Make your decision Ju_lie....I am making mine according to what the line is at the time I'm betting.

    It's your money, your decision....I've put out all the data that went into my decision making process....you can look at what I am sharing with the forum for you to play, fade or pass.

    If you want me to be your money manager then perhaps that will require us to enter into a contractual situation.

    Hey Indigo below is the link to what my book has for the lines. Right now Al's +2.5, Bomber +3.5, Argos +5 & Ticats +1. Which dogs do you feel most strongly to cover and which would you stay away from?

    https://www.bet365.com/?&cb=10326424579#/AC/B12/C20534156/D48/E36/F36/P^48/Q^36/I0


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