Green Bay just seems like the right play to me so far. Imo Cutler is good for at least one big mistake a game. Even against Seattle (who looked pretty bad), I keep thinking about the 2nd drive from the Bears. Chicago was within the 5 yard line and Cutler throws the ball right to a Seattle defender in the end zone. Can't remember who the guy was, but if it wasn't for his butter fingers Cutler would have had an early pick in his own end zone. Jay has a tendency to self destruct sometimes after mistakes bc he lets his emotions get the best of him. He will need an error-free game against GB if the Bears are to win. How often does he have those? I don't know.....that's what I'm still working on. Nothing locked in yet, just an early thought
Green Bay just seems like the right play to me so far. Imo Cutler is good for at least one big mistake a game. Even against Seattle (who looked pretty bad), I keep thinking about the 2nd drive from the Bears. Chicago was within the 5 yard line and Cutler throws the ball right to a Seattle defender in the end zone. Can't remember who the guy was, but if it wasn't for his butter fingers Cutler would have had an early pick in his own end zone. Jay has a tendency to self destruct sometimes after mistakes bc he lets his emotions get the best of him. He will need an error-free game against GB if the Bears are to win. How often does he have those? I don't know.....that's what I'm still working on. Nothing locked in yet, just an early thought
Rooting for GB yet betting CHI? That doesn't sound like fun.
I don't expect many Bear backers out there in the gambling world this week.
nope wont be fun.....hoping for a win win.....my pops went to U Wisconsin so apparently im half cheesehead now......I was leaning GB.........but seeing -3.5 at my book I couldn't pass on Chicago +4.5 with some juice......
Rooting for GB yet betting CHI? That doesn't sound like fun.
I don't expect many Bear backers out there in the gambling world this week.
nope wont be fun.....hoping for a win win.....my pops went to U Wisconsin so apparently im half cheesehead now......I was leaning GB.........but seeing -3.5 at my book I couldn't pass on Chicago +4.5 with some juice......
I'm a little surprised the total for the Pack game is 44. I expected mid to high 30's. I know you're not big on totals Mac, but any opinions on this? Anyone else?
I'm a little surprised the total for the Pack game is 44. I expected mid to high 30's. I know you're not big on totals Mac, but any opinions on this? Anyone else?
Green Bay just seems like the right play to me so far. Imo Cutler is good for at least one big mistake a game. Even against Seattle (who looked pretty bad), I keep thinking about the 2nd drive from the Bears. Chicago was within the 5 yard line and Cutler throws the ball right to a Seattle defender in the end zone. Can't remember who the guy was, but if it wasn't for his butter fingers Cutler would have had an early pick in his own end zone. Jay has a tendency to self destruct sometimes after mistakes bc he lets his emotions get the best of him. He will need an error-free game against GB if the Bears are to win. How often does he have those? I don't know.....that's what I'm still working on. Nothing locked in yet, just an early thought
Cutler is one of the major reasons why I am on the Packers. You hit the nail on the head as far as my feelings towards him. I laid -10 with the Bears last week and held my breath because I did not trust this guy one bit. I've bashed him all year calling him a mental midget and such and I still stick by all of those words. A decent game against a horrible Seattle defense does nothing to change my mind. And I say decent because he wasn't very accurate completing just 54% of his throws, and there was that horrible throw at the goal line like you mentioned and I recall there was another one that hit a Seattle defender right in the hands after that.
It just seems like he loses it once or twice every single game. Good point about him getting rattled too after mistakes or pressure getting to him. I remember back to the Giants game it seemed like he checked out mentally after the 4th or 5th sack. Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. I didn't trust Matt Cassel in this role, I didn't trust Joe Flacco in the role, and I don't trust Jay Cutler in this role. I'm not sure if I trust Mark Sanchez in this role either.
Green Bay just seems like the right play to me so far. Imo Cutler is good for at least one big mistake a game. Even against Seattle (who looked pretty bad), I keep thinking about the 2nd drive from the Bears. Chicago was within the 5 yard line and Cutler throws the ball right to a Seattle defender in the end zone. Can't remember who the guy was, but if it wasn't for his butter fingers Cutler would have had an early pick in his own end zone. Jay has a tendency to self destruct sometimes after mistakes bc he lets his emotions get the best of him. He will need an error-free game against GB if the Bears are to win. How often does he have those? I don't know.....that's what I'm still working on. Nothing locked in yet, just an early thought
Cutler is one of the major reasons why I am on the Packers. You hit the nail on the head as far as my feelings towards him. I laid -10 with the Bears last week and held my breath because I did not trust this guy one bit. I've bashed him all year calling him a mental midget and such and I still stick by all of those words. A decent game against a horrible Seattle defense does nothing to change my mind. And I say decent because he wasn't very accurate completing just 54% of his throws, and there was that horrible throw at the goal line like you mentioned and I recall there was another one that hit a Seattle defender right in the hands after that.
It just seems like he loses it once or twice every single game. Good point about him getting rattled too after mistakes or pressure getting to him. I remember back to the Giants game it seemed like he checked out mentally after the 4th or 5th sack. Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. I didn't trust Matt Cassel in this role, I didn't trust Joe Flacco in the role, and I don't trust Jay Cutler in this role. I'm not sure if I trust Mark Sanchez in this role either.
I'm a little surprised the total for the Pack game is 44. I expected mid to high 30's. I know you're not big on totals Mac, but any opinions on this? Anyone else?
Yeah I'm not big on totals but I would lean UNDER in both games at this point.
I'm a little surprised the total for the Pack game is 44. I expected mid to high 30's. I know you're not big on totals Mac, but any opinions on this? Anyone else?
Yeah I'm not big on totals but I would lean UNDER in both games at this point.
Cutler is one of the major reasons why I am on the Packers. You hit the nail on the head as far as my feelings towards him. I laid -10 with the Bears last week and held my breath because I did not trust this guy one bit. I've bashed him all year calling him a mental midget and such and I still stick by all of those words. A decent game against a horrible Seattle defense does nothing to change my mind. And I say decent because he wasn't very accurate completing just 54% of his throws, and there was that horrible throw at the goal line like you mentioned and I recall there was another one that hit a Seattle defender right in the hands after that.
It just seems like he loses it once or twice every single game. Good point about him getting rattled too after mistakes or pressure getting to him. I remember back to the Giants game it seemed like he checked out mentally after the 4th or 5th sack. Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. I didn't trust Matt Cassel in this role, I didn't trust Joe Flacco in the role, and I don't trust Jay Cutler in this role. I'm not sure if I trust Mark Sanchez in this role either.
I won't even bullshit and say my blood pressure didn't rise a bit once Seattle started putting up points. A 1 point cover after being up by 21 at the half is always unsettling.
Cutler is one of the major reasons why I am on the Packers. You hit the nail on the head as far as my feelings towards him. I laid -10 with the Bears last week and held my breath because I did not trust this guy one bit. I've bashed him all year calling him a mental midget and such and I still stick by all of those words. A decent game against a horrible Seattle defense does nothing to change my mind. And I say decent because he wasn't very accurate completing just 54% of his throws, and there was that horrible throw at the goal line like you mentioned and I recall there was another one that hit a Seattle defender right in the hands after that.
It just seems like he loses it once or twice every single game. Good point about him getting rattled too after mistakes or pressure getting to him. I remember back to the Giants game it seemed like he checked out mentally after the 4th or 5th sack. Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. I didn't trust Matt Cassel in this role, I didn't trust Joe Flacco in the role, and I don't trust Jay Cutler in this role. I'm not sure if I trust Mark Sanchez in this role either.
I won't even bullshit and say my blood pressure didn't rise a bit once Seattle started putting up points. A 1 point cover after being up by 21 at the half is always unsettling.
but it wasn't cutler's fault that the hawks came back. horrible play calling (ie letting the rb throw while way ahead), some special teams laxness and loose defensive play calling let them come back. Cutler was money. Of course, that was against a pretty mediocre team.
but it wasn't cutler's fault that the hawks came back. horrible play calling (ie letting the rb throw while way ahead), some special teams laxness and loose defensive play calling let them come back. Cutler was money. Of course, that was against a pretty mediocre team.
packers look good, but you know if you lay the points they'll win by a fg
cutler is certainly the x factor, he can easily have one of those 4 INT games,
packers were in the playoffs last year i think they have the experience cutler is lacking and will have more of a drive since they'll feel like they deserve it more from a psychological standpoint
can see this being a blow out but i might just go big on the packers ML
packers look good, but you know if you lay the points they'll win by a fg
cutler is certainly the x factor, he can easily have one of those 4 INT games,
packers were in the playoffs last year i think they have the experience cutler is lacking and will have more of a drive since they'll feel like they deserve it more from a psychological standpoint
can see this being a blow out but i might just go big on the packers ML
I dont think exp will be a prob for Cutler,he knows its just another game now..and he gets knocked for his attitude and wanting out of Denver..hows that coach doing again?Heres Cutlers #s before being traded..
2008 SEASON: Served as a Broncos team captain, starting all 16 games and established single-season team highs in completions (384), attempts (616) and passing yards (4,526) while posting the most 300-yard performances in a season (8) to earn his first trip to the Pro Bowl... Ranked third in the league and led the AFC with 4,526 passing yards... Earned the AFC’s offensive player of the month in September when he led the team to a 3-1 record completing 102-of-157 (65.0%) passes for 1,275 yards, 9 touchdowns and 4 interceptions for a QB rating of 98.6... Earned the league’s FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week honors three times (Weeks 10, 13 and 14)... Threw his 50th career touchdown pass in his 33rd game, becoming the fastest player in Denver history to reach that mark. GAMES PLAYED-STARTED: 16-16
The kid can play,sure he forces some passes but its high risk high reward and this Sunday Bears fans just may be rewarded with a SB..i dont see how you guys can be calling for a blowout..these two know each other better than anybody else..
I dont think exp will be a prob for Cutler,he knows its just another game now..and he gets knocked for his attitude and wanting out of Denver..hows that coach doing again?Heres Cutlers #s before being traded..
2008 SEASON: Served as a Broncos team captain, starting all 16 games and established single-season team highs in completions (384), attempts (616) and passing yards (4,526) while posting the most 300-yard performances in a season (8) to earn his first trip to the Pro Bowl... Ranked third in the league and led the AFC with 4,526 passing yards... Earned the AFC’s offensive player of the month in September when he led the team to a 3-1 record completing 102-of-157 (65.0%) passes for 1,275 yards, 9 touchdowns and 4 interceptions for a QB rating of 98.6... Earned the league’s FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week honors three times (Weeks 10, 13 and 14)... Threw his 50th career touchdown pass in his 33rd game, becoming the fastest player in Denver history to reach that mark. GAMES PLAYED-STARTED: 16-16
The kid can play,sure he forces some passes but its high risk high reward and this Sunday Bears fans just may be rewarded with a SB..i dont see how you guys can be calling for a blowout..these two know each other better than anybody else..
i actually got a really big feeling for the UNDER in the packers / bears game
both Defenses are going to be so fired up(peppers, urlacher, etc. packers hawk, mathews, woodson, etc.)...i think its going to be a defensive type game where TDS are hard to come by, similar to the week 17 game.
throw in some poor chicago weather this could be the best bet as it may be too difficult to take a side.
i actually got a really big feeling for the UNDER in the packers / bears game
both Defenses are going to be so fired up(peppers, urlacher, etc. packers hawk, mathews, woodson, etc.)...i think its going to be a defensive type game where TDS are hard to come by, similar to the week 17 game.
throw in some poor chicago weather this could be the best bet as it may be too difficult to take a side.
Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. ------------- he's seen this defense 4 times in the last two years
Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. ------------- he's seen this defense 4 times in the last two years
Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. ------------- he's seen this defense 4 times in the last two years
True but has he ever seen them in a pressure spot this big? A trip to the big game is on the line here, it's the biggest game of his career.
He has stunk in those 4 games against the Packers defense too.
Bears went 1-3 scoring 15, 14, 20, and 3 points. Average of 13.
Cutler had ratings of 43.2, 74.9, 82.5, and 43.5
One game over 60% completions. 4 TD, 9 INT's, 14 sacks.
Let's see him do something against a top flight defense in the playoffs when the heat is on. ------------- he's seen this defense 4 times in the last two years
True but has he ever seen them in a pressure spot this big? A trip to the big game is on the line here, it's the biggest game of his career.
He has stunk in those 4 games against the Packers defense too.
Bears went 1-3 scoring 15, 14, 20, and 3 points. Average of 13.
Cutler had ratings of 43.2, 74.9, 82.5, and 43.5
One game over 60% completions. 4 TD, 9 INT's, 14 sacks.
I ran some numbers on this "solid Bears D". Seems like they are using the old "bend but don't break" philosophy with an emphasis on the bending:
Chicago has played 7 of their 17 games against offenses ranked 16th or better (top half of the league) this year and in those games these are the yardage totals they have surrendered: 284, 410, 379, 372, 398, 475, and 393 yards for an average of a whooping 387.29. The interesting thing is that average came against offenses that were actually averaging less yards per game for the year at an average of 366.43. So the teams moved the ball better against the Bears defense than they did against the rest of the league. Now some of those teams were trailing in some of those games which could explain the big yardage they have surrendered by good defenses don't get chewed up like that in any situation. However, the Bears surrendered an average 22.86 points per game in those 7 contests. OK, they get chewed up between the 20's but must have a great red zone defense right? Wrong. The Bears red zone defense is about as average as it gets as they sit 16th in the league. So how did the Bears get ripped up like that in those game and only give up about 23 points a game? Turnovers. Those 7 teams committed 13 turnovers against the Bears in those games. I'm not sure if I'd want to be relying on turnovers at this point in the season.
The Bears other 10 games came against some horrible offenses and a slew of backup QB's. Maybe this defense isn't as good as their overall numbers suggest.
Unlike the Bears who were chewed up against good offenses, the Packers defense was pretty darn stout. Green Bay played 8 of their 18 games against offenses ranked 16th or better and these are the yardage totals they surrendered: 320, 352, 360, 205, 294, 249, 386, and 194 for an average of 295.0 yards per game They also gave up 16.5 points per game in those contests. And this came against offenses that averaged 365.05 yards and 26.39 points per game for the year so Green Bay certainly played excellent defense against those teams unlike the Bears who were actually worse against good offenses than the rest of the league was.
In my biased opinion I see a battle between "two great defenses" as one that is actually between one great defense and one pretty fraudulent defense.
I ran some numbers on this "solid Bears D". Seems like they are using the old "bend but don't break" philosophy with an emphasis on the bending:
Chicago has played 7 of their 17 games against offenses ranked 16th or better (top half of the league) this year and in those games these are the yardage totals they have surrendered: 284, 410, 379, 372, 398, 475, and 393 yards for an average of a whooping 387.29. The interesting thing is that average came against offenses that were actually averaging less yards per game for the year at an average of 366.43. So the teams moved the ball better against the Bears defense than they did against the rest of the league. Now some of those teams were trailing in some of those games which could explain the big yardage they have surrendered by good defenses don't get chewed up like that in any situation. However, the Bears surrendered an average 22.86 points per game in those 7 contests. OK, they get chewed up between the 20's but must have a great red zone defense right? Wrong. The Bears red zone defense is about as average as it gets as they sit 16th in the league. So how did the Bears get ripped up like that in those game and only give up about 23 points a game? Turnovers. Those 7 teams committed 13 turnovers against the Bears in those games. I'm not sure if I'd want to be relying on turnovers at this point in the season.
The Bears other 10 games came against some horrible offenses and a slew of backup QB's. Maybe this defense isn't as good as their overall numbers suggest.
Unlike the Bears who were chewed up against good offenses, the Packers defense was pretty darn stout. Green Bay played 8 of their 18 games against offenses ranked 16th or better and these are the yardage totals they surrendered: 320, 352, 360, 205, 294, 249, 386, and 194 for an average of 295.0 yards per game They also gave up 16.5 points per game in those contests. And this came against offenses that averaged 365.05 yards and 26.39 points per game for the year so Green Bay certainly played excellent defense against those teams unlike the Bears who were actually worse against good offenses than the rest of the league was.
In my biased opinion I see a battle between "two great defenses" as one that is actually between one great defense and one pretty fraudulent defense.
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