Orioles eyeing Vlad

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I know alot people like to bash the Orioles because what they have done this past decade, but Showalter wants to win and their strategy is clear this season ...... we are going to out score you....I would love to see this go through....another rumor is that if they land Vlad they trade somebody like Pie or Riemold for a starter...

Its not just upgrading offensively they have upgraded defensively also.

DLee is a great defender and Reynolds is average-slightly above average, which is better than anything the O's had last year. Hardy is one of the best defensive SS in the league and having Brob back for the whole year is a lot better than the crap that played 2nd last year.

Great offseason so far and it can get better.

Keep trying. Must suck knowing no matter what your team does they have absolutely NO CHANCE at winning.

Same thing people said about the Rays. Keep the hate coming. It makes it all the merrier.

Then again ManRam is hte same person who said Phil Hughes was just as good as Clay Buchholz, what a laugher.


Mr. near 5 ERA after the AS break Mr. Hughes.

And I am a big fan of Hughes but he is not the same talent or even that close to Clay.

This is the most narrow minded, I am not going to use a single brain cell response ever ...... the game changes, teams change ... don't get lost how the past decade played out .... the Orioles made the same type of moves in 95 and look how that panned out ... different nucleus around the starting pitching, but one this for sure - Showalter wants to win NOW and will not take losing for an answer ... the Mazzili, perlosero days are over .... the Orioles had one of the best record from August on when Showalter came on board ....

new look team this year

You can't tell who is better yet, Buckholz or Hughes, it's too early to tell, both pitchers are still wearing diapers.....Both have put up similiar numbers their 1st few seasons so far.........U can't judge Phil on just a bad 2nd half......let things develop some more before claiming Clay is so much better than Phil

Don't forget about the most important defensive player on the O's, Boog Powell.....Somebody's gotta catch all the bombs hit over the right center wall.....There's a good chance he leads the team in putouts.

And they call that a once in a lifetime occurrence for a reason.

He only goes by scouting reports and minor league numbers. By his logic Matt Wieters should be the best catcher in baseball right now because he was a MINOR LEAGUE stud and could read MINOR LEAGUE pitching.

Matt Wieters is the best catcher in the AL East, as of right now, and thats without having any sort of breakout season. He is already one of hte top defensive catchers in the league and his offense has struggled but he has shown glimpses and signs of his talent.

Also Mauer is the best catcher and I never said Wieters would be or is better than Mr. Mauer.

Clay ERA + 123
Hughes ERA+ 105

Both have pitched about 365 innings. Clay is the better pitcher thus far and his track record and his repertoire are better than Hughes.

clay shits all over hughes not even a yankee doodle could disagree

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/01/manny-vlad-progressing-toward-deals.html

Person close to Vlad says the Orioles have the inside track on signing him.

If that happens I hope Luke Scott is traded/packaged to pick up a SP.

I pulled this article off ESPN Rumors section...note the statement in bold.  I also noticed a rumor saying that the Os are interested in Justin Dueschner and could possible take the Os over the Yankees because his son lives closer to Baltimore.  That would be sweet if we land Guerro, Dueschner and trade one of our outfielders for a starter.....Os will really be rock n rolling....

There are conflicting rumors as to the future of Vladimir Guerrero who could end up like Jermaine Dye if he isn't careful.

Dye had high hopes for a lucrative multi-year deal following the 2009 season, but never lowered his demands and found himself out of work for all of 2010. Guerrero boasts some impressive credentials after a solid season for the Rangers, but his options continue to dwindle, reports MLB.com's John Schlegel.

Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com, however, tweeted Thursday that Guerrero was close to finding a new home and listed the Orioles, Angels and Rays as possible destinations.

While Rojas stated that Baltimore has the "inside track" on Guerrero, Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun says the report was certainly news to the Orioles, who haven?t been aggressively pursuing Guerrero.

One notable option came off the board when Jim Thome re-signed with the Twins last week.

A return to Texas is unlikely now that the Rangers have signed Adrian Beltre and will slide Michael Young into the DH role. Team president Nolan Ryan said in Thursday's Star Telegram that there is nothing "on the horizon" for the Rangers and doubts a player such as Guerrero would settle for a part-time role at reduced salary.

Tampa Bay seems to be the most likely landing spot, but not at the $6.5 million figure that Vlad earned in Texas last season. The new benchmark could be the one-year, $3 million figure Thome received from the Twins.

Possible lineup w Vlad

Roberts, Markakis, Lee, Guerroro, Weitters, Jones, Reynolds, Hardy, and Scott/Pie/Reimold

 

The Orioles still suck because the pitching still sucks and pitching wins, period, finis, over and out. Buck rode this pony hard for two months last year when neither he nor they had anything to lose. A 162 game marathon is a lot different. Play the Orioles OVER, good offense, but they will find ways to give up even more than they are scoring. 

Pitching will be much better this year. Look at how the pitching did the 2nd half of the year last year and down the stretch under Buck.

Last year they had half their BP sidelined and that effected their pitching. Gonzo, Koji, JJ were all injured (all of them were their best BP pitchers).

They were without Roberts at 2nd and 1st base/3rd were awful defensively. They now have Roberts back and are substantially better defensively at 1st and 3rd.

That translates to the pitchers trusting their fielders more and not putting added pressure on themselves to make the perfect pitch to make and out but rather trusting their stuff and not being concerned if the batter puts the ball in play because they can trust their fielders.

That is the best people can come up with....the Os sucked the last decade so they are going suck again this year even though they will be entirely different team....blah blah blah, i don't need to clean out the cobwebs in the my head when it comes to the Orioles  because I just copy and paste my Oriole prediction from year to year...

1)  This is the best lineup the orioles have had since 98

2)  They have the best manager they have had since 98 and a major step up from some of the dingle berries that have coached this team,

3)  They have plenty of young talent  -  recipe for success of late..look at the Rays and Giants age of their starters during their WS....I will not go to say that they have TL in the rotation but I think the Orioles rotation is capable of mimicing the Rays WS rotation.....who thought that Bumgarder and Sanchez were going to moe people down last season.

4)  They have better fielding infielders, two potential gold glovers in center and right

5)  They have young pitching who transferred into one of the best AL ERAs the 2nd half of the season.....

6)  Since Showalter arrived they had a better record than all AL teams except the Twins and tied with the Rays...

7)  JPero indicated that they were injury plagued

8)  JPero indicated they had half a bullpen ... .they just brought in Kevin Gregg and Jeremy Accardo to help support the cast.

I am convinced we are now going to start seeing a winning ball club that will compete with 2nd and 3rd place teams in the AL East and maybe even the wild card teams.

With the addition of Vlad, I WILL go as far as saying the Orioles lineup is better than the Blue Jays and Rays (crawford is now gone).  They could possibley be as good as the Yanks lineup...

All that being said, I DID NOT SAY THEY WOULD SUCK BECAUSE THEY HAVE FOR TEN YEARS. Get it straight, dickhead. I keep the most up to date ratings and skill sets possible and that rotation and pen will NEVER reach the level the Rays or Giants did. The talent and skills are JUST NOT THERE. BOL with your "Locks" whatever in the f__k they are.

I'll give you Giants because Cain and TL, but the Rays pitching was abunch of nobodys going into the season prior to their WS......my main point is that they will be alot better this year.....

bol with my locks???? are you referring to my 60-65% in baseball last season douchebag....

And your ratings are skewed based on results from last year that involved a pitching staff that was missing their best 3 bullpen arms for more than half the season. Add to the fact their infield defense was one of the worst in the league based on personnel and now they have one of the best defensive infields in the league which will positively impact the pitching staff. There are factors that cannot be measured by looking at statistics alone.



Guthrie is a solid pitcher. Not a #1 but a very solid #3 type. Matusz is a great young talent pitch phenomenal the 2nd half of the season after having to go through a learning curve in his first year. Expect him to have a great season this year. Bergy pitched solid the 2nd half of the year and had a very good/impressive rookie season. He is a decent pitcher #4 type who when he is getting his groundballs is able to be effective. Jake A was up and down but showed flashes; if he gets more consistent he could be a #3/4 type. Tillman had more lows than ups but has the ability. He is still very young and has to learn to attack the zone instead of nibbling and keeping the ball down. Hopefully they sign/trade for another pitcher who can be a middle/back end starter. Or if Britton (one of the best minor league pitchers in the entire minors) has a breakout spring he might take the last spot. He is a ground ball machine who is a lefty, very special and valuable commodity.

"bol with my locks???? are you referring to my 60-65% in baseball last season douchebag...."

I thought a "Lock" was 100% - and at what price, dickhead? 60-65% sounds great at -110 but at -150 you ain't turning diddly shit.

Oh, BTW, Guthrie is the best (and highest potential) of the bunch. If he is a solid 3, they are hurting like hell at 1 & 2. Progress in the A..L. East?

You are digging yourself a hole here with these comments.

JJ did a terrific job last year capping games. He did not take -150 plays. From what I remember he played a lot of totals, which were typically -110 range, and had a good mix of dogs at + money and favorites that were less than -140

Yeah my intentions was to come on this site and get evey single pick right ..that response tells me enough about your mindset...

I don't feel I need to defend myself and would prefer not to talk about myself....i let the picks do the talking, you should ask around a little before you go and claim that i make bad or unprofitable picks....nfl is 63% as well, I say that because those lines are always 110...but the more i think about it the more childish this conversation has turned bhy hyou going into capping skills .....

That being said...see you April....are you calling for a 'walk off'...your boy is rolling?