Posted:
#951
Mj bird dr j wow
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Ridiculously absurd MLB System!
Posted:
#953
mjbirddrj say its flawed and you respect jeff for the help hes given and class he has why not just state the flaw help everyone out and lets all make money if the system can be BETTERED OR PERFECTED or FLAWLESS share the wealth or post your plays and give people opportunity to no disrespect but put money where your mouth is or just enlighten us on the flaw and how to correct it.... there's no money like more money help us out if you can
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Posted:
#957
Quote Originally Posted by MJBIRDDRJ:
JEFF,
JEFF,
From my other posts you will see that I am very respectful to everyone on this site that is why it has been hard for me to say something to you on here or even try to expose the flaws of this system.
One thing is for sure this system is not yours and I can prove it. Actually the way you are doing it is your way, you have taken a system that I created many years ago and changed it to your way of betting stages.
You thought that your way is better because you only need to win 1 game in 5 tries to not lose. Many people that gamble always come up with the same reasoning and if you were to talk to most gamblers that don't have the experience that is required to beat the books always say the same thing.
They always say double up till you win. That is why they go broke in the long run. I have wrestled with the idea of posting because you mean well and seem like a very nice guy and your heart is in the right place by trying to have everyone win with you, but believe me this system is not yours. Maybe by just changing the way of the betting goes I guess it become different and yours in way, but the right way is so much better.
I really didn't want to post and sound cocky or arrogant but I see people burning you here with actually reasonable questions and they also have a valid points. They have a right to know, if you say you know something and it is amazing they have the right to know how and why.
I also want to say this system is a winning system but the way you do it is not the right way. Maybe the person that you learned it from made it hard for you to understand so you came up with the easy way. there is a reason why its done differently and maybe you found it hard to follow.
You are right about one thing it will win in the long but your way is much harder and one hit eats away about a 100 units. I am really struggling with this because I really do not want to post the real way.
I am frustrated that many people ask you a real legit question and your reply is I am wining X amount and my losses are 0. Like I said I know you mean well so this is not easy but in a way you are misleading them a little.
1) 2013 june 3,4,5,6,7 you lose every game and get hit for 100 units maybe even more. 2012 april 28,29,30,31 and may 1,2 lose every game and right from the start dig yourself a whole of over 80 units or so cause you won up till those days.
Of course I don't want to sit here and go over every hit. I just want you to tell the guy who showed you this system that he should have told it to you properly most likely he will tell you my name and admit he learned it from me by just hanging with me.
Again I can see your heart is in the right place and that you are a team player and like seeing everyone win but they are not getting the whole goods and the people that are rude to you are not haters some actually make sense but may come across a little harsh.
You don't see Billy Walters post how he bets and why he is successful that is why I been fighting with myself should I say something or not. Even now I still don't know if I made the right decision.
Why did I post? very simple I still remember when I was younger and how some of the betters that bet around me influence me to make cretin bets and that resulted in me suffering the worse days weeks and months of my life till I realized they just play the part good and make themselves sound so educated but in reality they just love betting and sometimes they come up with stories and what they call reasoning to make that bet to be in the game of action.
Not all betters are action junkies and a few I respect very much on here. One that comes to mind is scalabrine, he is no action junkie he is out to beat the books and make money and he has my respect.
I also see you really want everyone to follow and win with you, but the way your using this system is wrong. Like I said out of top of my head those dates I give you were loser in the past 2 years there are more so its hard to see how you can be up so many units.
I will just take your word for it, but even if you are it can not be that much. just from the 2 dates I give you people can check and see that you can not be a big winner for those 2 years maybe even lose both years.
I really hope you do not think I am out to trash talk you or expose you. Seeing how nice and friendly you are to all on here is what made me say something, I can see that you have no answers to the people that have legit question. Just remember and be fair when someone says to you how can you over come a 100 unit loss you should be prepare to explain.
I will decide if I should only contact you on here and explain the right way that this is done or should I open a post and let everyone see it or just say my 2 cents here and be done with it. Like I said not too sure yet. You can see by my other posts I am not rude or disrespectful towards anyone on here.
One last thought for you, systems are not successful so they say. That is why vegas doesn't care if you have a system in table games or sports because at the end they will win unless you have the right system and the right frame of mind.
You need to always be sharp never go on tilt when the system is losing take your losses and not chase outside of the system. knowing the system works and losses is part of the game and it doesn't matter how much you lose in one day or week or month it matters if yo show profit at the end of the year.
I believe maybe 1.2 percent of the system ever created will work the ones that work are the one you never hear about ever.
Really hard for me to write this of course I know you will say prove it and blah blah blah. first remember I am the one who actually give the exact dates your system failed so clearly I know what I am saying about this matter.
I just want to make a point that those people that ask you question have legit reason and make sense too. The way they say it is a little different, but so be it. I also think you handled it very well and with class. you have a following on here as well and many people like you.
I do not care somehow my system ended up in your hands, but it is being played wrong and thats okay I guess not my money. I never wanted to post and if you answered people and explained this to them instead of always saying I am 500-0 and thats all you need to know i would have never posted this.
you keep saying this is your system for so many year that also bother me but maybe by fluke you came up with this so I will give you the benefit of the doubt since are betting is different, but believe me its wrong betting . Idea is right betting is wrong.
cheers
all people need your help in short time by big losing 
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Posted:
#958
Quote Originally Posted by alabamam25:
mjbirddrj say its flawed and you respect jeff for the help hes given and class he has why not just state the flaw help everyone out and lets all make money if the system can be BETTERED OR PERFECTED or FLAWLESS share the wealth or post your plays and give people opportunity to no disrespect but put money where your mouth is or just enlighten us on the flaw and how to correct it.... there's no money like more money help us out if you can
mjbirddrj say its flawed and you respect jeff for the help hes given and class he has why not just state the flaw help everyone out and lets all make money if the system can be BETTERED OR PERFECTED or FLAWLESS share the wealth or post your plays and give people opportunity to no disrespect but put money where your mouth is or just enlighten us on the flaw and how to correct it.... there's no money like more money help us out if you can
Great 
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Posted:
#959
"1) 2013 june 3,4,5,6,7 you lose every game and get hit for 100 units maybe even more. 2012 april 28,29,30,31 and may 1,2 lose every game and right from the start dig yourself a whole of over 80 units or so cause you won up till those days. "
You're facts are wrong for the dates you listed. June 6th 2013 501/502 game was postponed. Based on his parameters that day becomes a no play and the game on June 7th becomes the (D) game and June 8th becomes the (E) game, which was a winner.
As for April, there is only 30 days in that month, so I'm not sure if you meant another month or are just confused. Assuming you meant that month, let's start on the 28th. In those dates you have a winner on the 29th, 30th, and the 1st.
I'm completely fine with people wanting to challenge the system as you can have to risk a lot of money for the latter games in the chase. If JEFF says its 500(+)-0, at least come in with real facts to dispute it. He opened up the system parameters to everyone. If you don't believe his record then start back checking yourself and prove him to be a fraud.
If you're too lazy to use accessible information (even provided on covers) to disprove his record, then why even bother coming in to hate.
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Posted:
#964
Quote Originally Posted by MJBIRDDRJ:
sorry my mistake, april 28,29,30, may 1,2
I just checked the archives in scoresandodds.com.
2012 April 29, 30, and May 1 were all RL+_1.5 wins.
2013 June 3-7 was interesting, indeed. June 6 was a rainout for ROT #1 game, therefore there was no play that day. June 8th was the E game, and it won.
Not sure where your data for those dates came from....
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Posted:
#967
Well just checked your dates and unless they posted the scores wrong on SBR its still undefeated. Another thing is if you think you thought of this I need some proof. Otherwise I I'll continue to claim this, in my 30 years of betting never seen this done. I certainly don't understand how bing 500-0 is doing it wrong.
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Posted:
#969
Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:
The other "red flag" was that Jeff conveniently ignored direct questions about the system, at least anything that was "technical" or required actual knowledge of the system! All he could do is refer to the record of the system!
How about the red flag that he was just proven wrong?
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Posted:
#973
Quote Originally Posted by irage:
Ridiculously Absurd Strategy
1. Find the lowest ROT
2. Take the DOG
3. Take the R/L
3/31 - (A901) Cubs +156 - WIN
4/01 - (A952) San Diego +128 - WIN
4/02 - (A901) Atlanta +118 - WIN
4/03 - (A951) St. Louis -104 - WIN
4/04 - (A901) Atlanta +156 - WIN
4/05 - (A952) NY Mets +116 - WIN
4/06 - (A901) San Diego +105 - WIN
4/07 - PPD
4/08 - (A901 Arizona +140 - LOSS
4/09 - (B961) Arizona +113 - WIN
4/09 - (A951) Cincinnati +128 - WIN
4/10 - (A902) Cubs +120 - WIN
4/11 - (A951) Philadelphia +124 - WIN
4/12 - (A901) Cubs +228 - LOSS
4/13 - (A951) Miami -214 - WIN
4/13 - (B957) Cubs +201 -LOSS
4/14 - (B902) Philadelphia +118 -
Ridiculously Absurd Strategy
1. Find the lowest ROT
2. Take the DOG
3. Take the R/L
3/31 - (A901) Cubs +156 - WIN
4/01 - (A952) San Diego +128 - WIN
4/02 - (A901) Atlanta +118 - WIN
4/03 - (A951) St. Louis -104 - WIN
4/04 - (A901) Atlanta +156 - WIN
4/05 - (A952) NY Mets +116 - WIN
4/06 - (A901) San Diego +105 - WIN
4/07 - PPD
4/08 - (A901 Arizona +140 - LOSS
4/09 - (B961) Arizona +113 - WIN
4/09 - (A951) Cincinnati +128 - WIN
4/10 - (A902) Cubs +120 - WIN
4/11 - (A951) Philadelphia +124 - WIN
4/12 - (A901) Cubs +228 - LOSS
4/13 - (A951) Miami -214 - WIN
4/13 - (B957) Cubs +201 -LOSS
4/14 - (B902) Philadelphia +118 -
this is good to see how the money line is doing.. be making more money so far
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