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    JEFFTHEHAT
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 12:39 PM ET #926

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    But at 9-1 and MINUS 2+units how is this making money? And doesn't it just prove that the risk is far too great for the reward? It's interesting to look through this thread and more than one guy has pointed this out and yet you conveniently choose to not address the issue and ignore completely! Why is that? 

    Watch what happens by the end of year! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    But at 9-1 and MINUS 2+units how is this making money? And doesn't it just prove that the risk is far too great for the reward? It's interesting to look through this thread and more than one guy has pointed this out and yet you conveniently choose to not address the issue and ignore completely! Why is that? 

    Watch what happens by the end of year! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 12:43 PM ET #927

    Quote Originally Posted by BrickShot:

    Disagree. Who cares about thread title. Btw, he says it's a ridiculously absurd so there's that. Not sure how that's attracting attention to himself. Everyone knows the risks. He's said he adapted system from someone else. Doubt he cares if he looks stupid. If he posts results, you'll find a way to discredit them. Just ignore the thread and stop.  

    Brick just want to clear one thing up. this system wasn't adapted from some one else, it is same thing as I used in my NHL 128-0 and my NCAAB 77-0 system 1 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickShot:

    Disagree. Who cares about thread title. Btw, he says it's a ridiculously absurd so there's that. Not sure how that's attracting attention to himself. Everyone knows the risks. He's said he adapted system from someone else. Doubt he cares if he looks stupid. If he posts results, you'll find a way to discredit them. Just ignore the thread and stop.  

    Brick just want to clear one thing up. this system wasn't adapted from some one else, it is same thing as I used in my NHL 128-0 and my NCAAB 77-0 system 1 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 12:53 PM ET #928

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:

    Hey Jeff, I'm short on time right now but will be back later to share why your data is flawed and misleading!

    Perhaps in the meantime you can tell us why you chose the first rotation number of the day and not the 3rd, 8th or some other number? Isn't it true that rotation number is meaningless? 

    Good luck with that,  also there is a very good reason I didn't choose another number. Being your an MIT guy you surely would know the answer. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:

    Hey Jeff, I'm short on time right now but will be back later to share why your data is flawed and misleading!

    Perhaps in the meantime you can tell us why you chose the first rotation number of the day and not the 3rd, 8th or some other number? Isn't it true that rotation number is meaningless? 

    Good luck with that,  also there is a very good reason I didn't choose another number. Being your an MIT guy you surely would know the answer. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:04 PM ET #929

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    I don't need luck, this one is too easy! And YES I do know the answer and the answer "rotation number DOESN'T MATTER". As promised Jeff I will be back later to prove your data is MAJORLY flawed and I will be sure to point out exactly why! Have a great day! 



    FYI, it's makes a big difference. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    I don't need luck, this one is too easy! And YES I do know the answer and the answer "rotation number DOESN'T MATTER". As promised Jeff I will be back later to prove your data is MAJORLY flawed and I will be sure to point out exactly why! Have a great day! 



    FYI, it's makes a big difference. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:12 PM ET #930

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    I don't need luck, this one is too easy! And YES I do know the answer and the answer "rotation number DOESN'T MATTER". As promised Jeff I will be back later to prove your data is MAJORLY flawed and I will be sure to point out exactly why! Have a great day! 



    While your at it, be sure to point out why my other system is 3689-0 past 5 years only because I didnt check further. Also be sure to tell us why this system is over 500-0 past 5 years only because I stopped checking and don't forget the undefeated NHL and hoops systems! Hell tell us why all my systems work when you think they shouldn't. When I'm done testing this one tell us why it going to make 500-600 units a year WITH  losses.That will screw with your head!  Maybe you don't get it? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:


    I don't need luck, this one is too easy! And YES I do know the answer and the answer "rotation number DOESN'T MATTER". As promised Jeff I will be back later to prove your data is MAJORLY flawed and I will be sure to point out exactly why! Have a great day! 



    While your at it, be sure to point out why my other system is 3689-0 past 5 years only because I didnt check further. Also be sure to tell us why this system is over 500-0 past 5 years only because I stopped checking and don't forget the undefeated NHL and hoops systems! Hell tell us why all my systems work when you think they shouldn't. When I'm done testing this one tell us why it going to make 500-600 units a year WITH  losses.That will screw with your head!  Maybe you don't get it? 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:32 PM ET #931

    If rotation number does matter just tell us why. 
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    If rotation number does matter just tell us why. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:39 PM ET #932

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    braves big big play (A)
    phillies +1.5 (A)

    yes i understand braves vs phillies
    but i will middle

    lmaooooo

    Dude really, MIT? More like M I C KEY. Holy crap two different systems ones tracking not being played! And here's where we know you either flunked MIT or was just the janitor. We don't chase forever. DUH! Another thing Einstein anybody who has played a chase knows you have a bankroll to sustain an E or F bet. Which means! here the punch line betting a bit smaller because it's a chase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    braves big big play (A)
    phillies +1.5 (A)

    yes i understand braves vs phillies
    but i will middle

    lmaooooo

    Dude really, MIT? More like M I C KEY. Holy crap two different systems ones tracking not being played! And here's where we know you either flunked MIT or was just the janitor. We don't chase forever. DUH! Another thing Einstein anybody who has played a chase knows you have a bankroll to sustain an E or F bet. Which means! here the punch line betting a bit smaller because it's a chase?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:41 PM ET #933

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    braves big big play (A)
    phillies +1.5 (A)

    yes i understand braves vs phillies
    but i will middle

    lmaooooo

    Mods really? Are you paying attention to the multiple accounts like this clown! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    braves big big play (A)
    phillies +1.5 (A)

    yes i understand braves vs phillies
    but i will middle

    lmaooooo

    Mods really? Are you paying attention to the multiple accounts like this clown! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:43 PM ET #934

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    If rotation number does matter just tell us why. 

    Simple, I like easy questions. The others don't work! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    If rotation number does matter just tell us why. 

    Simple, I like easy questions. The others don't work! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 1:48 PM ET #935

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:

    Hey Jeff, it's not personal with me but if you want to make it that I will gladly shred you to pieces and discredit everything about this chase system and every chase system for that matter! You're talking to an M.I.T. guy so it will be pretty easy for me to share exactly why chasing isn't worth it from a risk-reward perspective. 

    OK Mr. M.I.T. (GUY), Why don't you go play Blackjack with Andy Bloch and leave this guy Jeff alone. He's sharing a system (that no one is forced to play) with the people on this site. I personally have made money on most of the picks. Wainwright at home was against the system and won for me ( I don't follow like a sheep), however I would have won the (B) bet the next day so all is good. Quit being a hater and add something useful to the thread or wait until it fails before you trash the guy trying to help people. No disrespect meant to anyone. Thanks again to JEFF THE HAT.

     OUT 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmackey:

    Hey Jeff, it's not personal with me but if you want to make it that I will gladly shred you to pieces and discredit everything about this chase system and every chase system for that matter! You're talking to an M.I.T. guy so it will be pretty easy for me to share exactly why chasing isn't worth it from a risk-reward perspective. 

    OK Mr. M.I.T. (GUY), Why don't you go play Blackjack with Andy Bloch and leave this guy Jeff alone. He's sharing a system (that no one is forced to play) with the people on this site. I personally have made money on most of the picks. Wainwright at home was against the system and won for me ( I don't follow like a sheep), however I would have won the (B) bet the next day so all is good. Quit being a hater and add something useful to the thread or wait until it fails before you trash the guy trying to help people. No disrespect meant to anyone. Thanks again to JEFF THE HAT.

     OUT 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 2:20 PM ET #936

    This thread is so confusing
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    This thread is so confusing
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 2:35 PM ET #938

    How can some of us non-believers back test this system? Where can you find the rotation number from previous games, and how can we tell it was the first one for the day? Thanks.
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    How can some of us non-believers back test this system? Where can you find the rotation number from previous games, and how can we tell it was the first one for the day? Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 3:38 PM ET #939

    when does the real season start jeff?
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    when does the real season start jeff?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 3:39 PM ET #940

    Quote Originally Posted by JVest:

    How can some of us non-believers back test this system? Where can you find the rotation number from previous games, and how can we tell it was the first one for the day? Thanks.

    OK J, Go to Covers. MLB scores & matchups. On the left side is the calendar that shows the date of games played. Above that is month & year. If you select April 1, 2013 it shows the games for that day. Rot. # 901 was Miami vs Wash. Miami was the play +1.5 runs. They lost 2-0 on bet (A). the next day was Rot. # 951, Col vs Mil. Col won 8-4 on bet (B) so it ends the chase. Find any game you want on that site. I hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVest:

    How can some of us non-believers back test this system? Where can you find the rotation number from previous games, and how can we tell it was the first one for the day? Thanks.

    OK J, Go to Covers. MLB scores & matchups. On the left side is the calendar that shows the date of games played. Above that is month & year. If you select April 1, 2013 it shows the games for that day. Rot. # 901 was Miami vs Wash. Miami was the play +1.5 runs. They lost 2-0 on bet (A). the next day was Rot. # 951, Col vs Mil. Col won 8-4 on bet (B) so it ends the chase. Find any game you want on that site. I hope that helps.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 3:42 PM ET #941

    The 1st game is # 901 or # 951, but that's not always the bet. You need to make sure the underdog is the bet on 5dimes close.

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    The 1st game is # 901 or # 951, but that's not always the bet. You need to make sure the underdog is the bet on 5dimes close.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 3:56 PM ET #942

    Thanks pokerdave, that does help. 
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 4:15 PM ET #943

    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:

    when does the real season start jeff?

    I plan on running 3 systems at once if the one I'm testing holds up

    System 1 starts May 2
    System 2 is this thread 12-0
    System 3 is the tracking plays, looks to be getting 500-600 units with a 3 game chase. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:

    when does the real season start jeff?

    I plan on running 3 systems at once if the one I'm testing holds up

    System 1 starts May 2
    System 2 is this thread 12-0
    System 3 is the tracking plays, looks to be getting 500-600 units with a 3 game chase. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    we gonna be filthy rich



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    we gonna be filthy rich



     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 4:39 PM ET #945

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    we gonna be filthy rich

    Lmao, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery! 
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    we gonna be filthy rich

    Lmao, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery! 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 4:41 PM ET #946

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Lmao, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery! 

    I didn't even notice that at first. 


    Remember someone made a JEFFTHECAT account earlier this year. Take it as a compliment. 
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    Lmao, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery! 

    I didn't even notice that at first. 


    Remember someone made a JEFFTHECAT account earlier this year. Take it as a compliment. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 5:13 PM ET #947

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    get rich or die trying

    j j j j jeff unit

    This one is actually pretty funny. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT_:

    get rich or die trying

    j j j j jeff unit

    This one is actually pretty funny. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 5:29 PM ET #948

    JEFF,

    From my other posts you will see that I am very respectful to everyone on this site that is why it has been hard for me to say something to you on here or even try to expose the flaws of this system. 

    One thing is for sure this system is not yours and I can prove it. Actually the way you are doing it is your way, you have taken a system that I created many years ago and changed it to your way of betting stages. 

    You thought that your way is better because you only need to win 1 game in 5 tries to not lose. Many people that gamble always come up with the same reasoning and if you were to talk to most gamblers that don't have the experience that is required to beat the books always say the same thing. 

    They always say double up till you win. That is why they go broke in the long run. I have wrestled with the idea of posting because you mean well and seem like a very nice guy and your heart is in the right place by trying to have everyone win with you, but believe me this system is not yours. Maybe by just changing the way of the betting goes I guess it become different and yours in way, but the right way is so much better. 

    I really didn't want to post and sound cocky or arrogant but I see people burning you here with actually reasonable questions and they also have a valid points. They have a right to know, if you say you know something and it is amazing they have the right to know how and why.

    I also want to say this system is a winning system but the way you do it is not the right way. Maybe the person that you learned it from made it hard for you to understand so you came up with the easy way. there is a reason why its done differently and maybe you found it hard to follow. 

    You are right about one thing it will win in the long but your way is much harder and one hit eats away about a 100 units. I am really struggling with this because I really do not want to post the real way. 

    I am frustrated that many people ask you a real legit question and your reply is I am wining X amount and my losses are 0. Like I said I know you mean well so this is not easy but in a way you are misleading them a little.

    1) 2013 june 3,4,5,6,7 you lose every game and get hit for 100 units maybe even more. 2012 april 28,29,30,31 and may 1,2 lose every game and right from the start dig yourself a whole of over 80 units or so cause you won up till those days. 

    Of course I don't want to sit here and go over every hit. I just want you to tell the guy who showed you this system that he should have told it to you properly most likely he will tell you my name and admit he learned it from me by just hanging with me. 

    Again I can see your heart is in the right place and that you are a team player and like seeing everyone win but they are not getting the whole goods and the people that are rude to you are not haters some actually make sense but may come across a little harsh.

    You don't see Billy Walters post how he bets and why he is successful that is why I been fighting with myself should I say something or not. Even now I still don't know if I made the right decision. 

    Why did I post? very simple I still remember when I was younger and how some of the betters that bet around me influence me to make cretin bets and that resulted in me suffering the worse days weeks and months of my life till I realized they just play the part good and make themselves sound so educated but in reality they just love betting and sometimes they come up with stories and what they call reasoning to make that bet to be in the game of action.

     Not all betters are action junkies and a few I respect very much on here. One that comes to mind is scalabrine, he is no action junkie he is out to beat the books and make money and he has my respect.

    I also see you really want everyone to follow and win with you, but the way your using this system is wrong. Like I said out of top of my head those dates I give you were loser in the past 2 years there are more so its hard to see how you can be up so many units.

    I will just take your word for it, but even if you are it can not be that much. just from the 2 dates I give you people can check and see that you can not be a big winner for those 2 years maybe even lose both years. 

    I really hope you do not think I am out to trash talk you or expose you. Seeing how nice and friendly you are to all on here is what made me say something, I can see that you have no answers to the people that have legit question. Just remember and be fair when someone says to you how can you over come a 100 unit loss you should be prepare to explain.

    I will decide if I should only contact you on here and explain the right way that this is done or should I open a post and let everyone see it or just say my 2 cents here and be done with it.  Like I said not too sure yet. You can see by my other posts I am not rude or disrespectful towards anyone on here.

    One last thought for you, systems are not successful so they say. That is why vegas doesn't care if you have a system in table games or sports because at the end they will win unless you have the right system and the right frame of mind. 

    You need to always be sharp never go on tilt when the system is losing take your losses and not chase outside of the system. knowing the system works and losses is part of the game and it doesn't matter how much you lose in one day or week or month it matters if yo show profit at the end of the year. 

    I believe maybe 1.2 percent of the system ever created will work the ones that work are the one you never hear about ever.

    Really hard for me to write this of course I know you will say prove it and blah blah blah. first remember I am the one who actually give the exact dates your system failed so clearly I know what I am saying about this matter.

    I just want to make a point that those people that ask you question have legit reason and make sense too. The way they say it is a little different, but so be it. I also think you handled it very well and with class. you have a following on here as well and many people like you.

    I do not care somehow my system ended up in your hands, but it is being played wrong and thats okay I guess not my money. I never wanted to post and if you answered people and explained this to them instead of always saying I am 500-0 and thats all you need to know i would have never posted this. 

    you keep saying this is your system for so many year that also bother me but maybe by fluke you came up with this so I will give you the benefit of the doubt since are betting is different, but believe me its wrong betting . Idea is right betting is wrong.

    cheers


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    JEFF,

    From my other posts you will see that I am very respectful to everyone on this site that is why it has been hard for me to say something to you on here or even try to expose the flaws of this system. 

    One thing is for sure this system is not yours and I can prove it. Actually the way you are doing it is your way, you have taken a system that I created many years ago and changed it to your way of betting stages. 

    You thought that your way is better because you only need to win 1 game in 5 tries to not lose. Many people that gamble always come up with the same reasoning and if you were to talk to most gamblers that don't have the experience that is required to beat the books always say the same thing. 

    They always say double up till you win. That is why they go broke in the long run. I have wrestled with the idea of posting because you mean well and seem like a very nice guy and your heart is in the right place by trying to have everyone win with you, but believe me this system is not yours. Maybe by just changing the way of the betting goes I guess it become different and yours in way, but the right way is so much better. 

    I really didn't want to post and sound cocky or arrogant but I see people burning you here with actually reasonable questions and they also have a valid points. They have a right to know, if you say you know something and it is amazing they have the right to know how and why.

    I also want to say this system is a winning system but the way you do it is not the right way. Maybe the person that you learned it from made it hard for you to understand so you came up with the easy way. there is a reason why its done differently and maybe you found it hard to follow. 

    You are right about one thing it will win in the long but your way is much harder and one hit eats away about a 100 units. I am really struggling with this because I really do not want to post the real way. 

    I am frustrated that many people ask you a real legit question and your reply is I am wining X amount and my losses are 0. Like I said I know you mean well so this is not easy but in a way you are misleading them a little.

    1) 2013 june 3,4,5,6,7 you lose every game and get hit for 100 units maybe even more. 2012 april 28,29,30,31 and may 1,2 lose every game and right from the start dig yourself a whole of over 80 units or so cause you won up till those days. 

    Of course I don't want to sit here and go over every hit. I just want you to tell the guy who showed you this system that he should have told it to you properly most likely he will tell you my name and admit he learned it from me by just hanging with me. 

    Again I can see your heart is in the right place and that you are a team player and like seeing everyone win but they are not getting the whole goods and the people that are rude to you are not haters some actually make sense but may come across a little harsh.

    You don't see Billy Walters post how he bets and why he is successful that is why I been fighting with myself should I say something or not. Even now I still don't know if I made the right decision. 

    Why did I post? very simple I still remember when I was younger and how some of the betters that bet around me influence me to make cretin bets and that resulted in me suffering the worse days weeks and months of my life till I realized they just play the part good and make themselves sound so educated but in reality they just love betting and sometimes they come up with stories and what they call reasoning to make that bet to be in the game of action.

     Not all betters are action junkies and a few I respect very much on here. One that comes to mind is scalabrine, he is no action junkie he is out to beat the books and make money and he has my respect.

    I also see you really want everyone to follow and win with you, but the way your using this system is wrong. Like I said out of top of my head those dates I give you were loser in the past 2 years there are more so its hard to see how you can be up so many units.

    I will just take your word for it, but even if you are it can not be that much. just from the 2 dates I give you people can check and see that you can not be a big winner for those 2 years maybe even lose both years. 

    I really hope you do not think I am out to trash talk you or expose you. Seeing how nice and friendly you are to all on here is what made me say something, I can see that you have no answers to the people that have legit question. Just remember and be fair when someone says to you how can you over come a 100 unit loss you should be prepare to explain.

    I will decide if I should only contact you on here and explain the right way that this is done or should I open a post and let everyone see it or just say my 2 cents here and be done with it.  Like I said not too sure yet. You can see by my other posts I am not rude or disrespectful towards anyone on here.

    One last thought for you, systems are not successful so they say. That is why vegas doesn't care if you have a system in table games or sports because at the end they will win unless you have the right system and the right frame of mind. 

    You need to always be sharp never go on tilt when the system is losing take your losses and not chase outside of the system. knowing the system works and losses is part of the game and it doesn't matter how much you lose in one day or week or month it matters if yo show profit at the end of the year. 

    I believe maybe 1.2 percent of the system ever created will work the ones that work are the one you never hear about ever.

    Really hard for me to write this of course I know you will say prove it and blah blah blah. first remember I am the one who actually give the exact dates your system failed so clearly I know what I am saying about this matter.

    I just want to make a point that those people that ask you question have legit reason and make sense too. The way they say it is a little different, but so be it. I also think you handled it very well and with class. you have a following on here as well and many people like you.

    I do not care somehow my system ended up in your hands, but it is being played wrong and thats okay I guess not my money. I never wanted to post and if you answered people and explained this to them instead of always saying I am 500-0 and thats all you need to know i would have never posted this. 

    you keep saying this is your system for so many year that also bother me but maybe by fluke you came up with this so I will give you the benefit of the doubt since are betting is different, but believe me its wrong betting . Idea is right betting is wrong.

    cheers


     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 5:40 PM ET #949

    Wow--Some people need a life!!!  MJBIRD-WHAT-EVER!! 

    Thks for all your hard work--jeffthehat!!

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    Wow--Some people need a life!!!  MJBIRD-WHAT-EVER!! 

    Thks for all your hard work--jeffthehat!!

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2014 - 5:48 PM ET #950

    MJBird. I read the whole thing, but try and write the Cliff Notes edition to it. It may come out better.

     

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    MJBird. I read the whole thing, but try and write the Cliff Notes edition to it. It may come out better.

     

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