Do you ever look at whether a Singles player is playing Doubles ALSO at the same tournament?

I've been staring at old results of brackets from previous tournaments trying to figure out whether looking at whether or not a Singles player is playing in the Doubles bracket also, means anything and whether or not it should matter when capping Singles matches.

I'm not looking at Grand Slams because those are much more stacked with the best of the best of Singles and the best of the best in Doubles and don't overlap much.  Plus they are a pain to analyze.

DOES ANYBODY WEIGH THESE "DOUBLE-DUTY" PLAYERS IN DIFFERENTLY WHEN CAPPING SINGLES MATCHES????

or vice-versa?  (My sportsbook doesn't have doubles betting.)

Wondering if ANYBODY has any input on this thought.

Sparty, you've been around awhile, do you have any insight on this topic?

Best of Luck Everyone

TexasD

For instance:

At the Mercedes Cup there are NINE Singles players that have Doubles later on that day.

Of those NINE there are 3 Doubles teams comprised of both players/partners that will have already played a Singles game earlier that day.

Germans Knittel/Stebe play an opposing team that DIDN'T have earlier Singles Matches that day.

The other two teams are Melzer/Petzschner and Andujar/Gimeno-Traver.

Fognini, Kubot, and Chardy all play with "fresh" partners.

And at the Skistar Swedish Open tommorrow, Kavcic and Riba both play Singles matches before they partner up on Court 2 against "fresh" opponents Cermak and Polasek.

Ohhh....it does say "After Suitable Rest" for Kavcic/Riba.

AND it says that for ONLY 2 of the 4 Doubles matches that have players that will have already played a Singles match earlier Tuesday.

Why do some matches say "After Suitable Rest" and some don't?

I often look at this angle ........I think it is a valid Tennis Capping angle ......

For instance go back to one of my threads on the Wimbledon Finals I used that angle to bet against the german chick when she played sharapova,

although it was just one angle I looked at I love this capping style TexasD great work   to say playing doubles and singles in the same day means nothing is not correct at all,

Please go play 3 set then play another 3 sets an hour later then comeback the next day and do it again lol it makes a difference

I guess I bring this point up ALSO because I was trying to get into a pro tennis player's head:

1. Do pro Tennis Players look at a tournament AS A WHOLE and say, "I could make the most money if I run in both Singles AND Doubles for the weekend?"

2. Are Pro tennis players ever JUST "filling in part of the bracket"?

3. Do Pro tennis players that play both Singles and Doubles EVER HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE OF SAYING, "I should play myself out of Doubles, because I think I have a ligitimate chance of getting to the Finals and I don't want to play 1-4 extra games, therefor hurting my chance at Singles by wearing myself out?"

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My thoughts on #1:

First of all, you make 4 times as much money winning a 1st-round SINGLES match than winning a 1st-round DOUBLES match (per person).

Against it:  I know this is a SMALL sample, but I looked back at the last two SMALL tournaments of 32 Singles and 16 teams in doubles.

They were the Aegon International and Campbell's Hall of Fame championship.

In Newport, Matthew Ebden and Ryan Harrison WON DOUBLES.  Ebden did a fairly deep run in the Singles tournament also.  He won his first two Singles games and lost to O. Rochus in the QF.

In the AEGON International, Andreas Seppi WON THE SINGLES tournament while ALSO going DEEP TO THE FINALS IN DOUBLES where he lost.  His doubles partner Grigor Dimitrov also won his first 2 matches and the lost in the QFs to the runner-up of the tournament Janko Tipsarevic.

Seems like there were 1 or 2 players that were on fire for the weekend going DEEP in both Singles AND Doubles.

One other thing noted:

Of the 9 SEEDED players in the Singles brackets that played both Singles AND Doubles in these 2 tournaments, ONLY 1 player won their 1st-round Double matchup.  They other 8 fell in their first matches in Doubles.

I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT SINCE I DID A SMALL SAMPLE OF 2 "SMALLER" TOURNAMENTS THAT THIS IS JUST COINCIDENCE, but has yet to be looked into further.

#2  I only bring up "fill-ins" because I ADMIT, I don't know everything about Tennis, but would like to for betting purposes.  OBVIOUSLY there are players who drop out, there are players who fill in for them.

Are there "back-ups" that  come to the tournament "JUST INCASE" somebody were to back out?

CAN ANYTHING BE SAID ABOUT THESE WILD-CARDS that the tournament puts in the brackets?

AND when I look at these brackets from ATP World, I see two abbreviations before names that I'm NOT FAMILIAR with:

LL which I believe is Lucky Loser and SE which I'm gonna take a stab-in-the-dark and say Special Entry?!?!?

Does it matter to know what these are so when you cap a tennis match you can WEIGH IT IN CORRECTLY?

#3  I would have to IMAGINE that Pro Tennis Players will come across this dilemna often if they are playing Singles AND Doubles.

Do I think it happens IMO....YES.

Me personally,...I can't rule it out.  It's not going AS FAR to say they are "rigging" a match for BETTING PURPOSES, but playing tennis are these guys JOBS and if it means MAKING MONEY, ANYBODY HAS TO GO ABOUT IT IN A LOGICAL MATTER.

BUT they do have a partner that might not have an opportunity to go deep in the Singles tourney,..so that might weigh in here.

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I BRING THESE QUESTIONS UP BECAUSE BOTH YOU AND I BET ON THESE MATCHES WHERE THESE OCCURENCES HAPPEN.

I try not to leave any view/angle unturned and tend to look at stuff that OTHER people may not.

I bring it up to make OTHERS aware of these ANGLES and I leave it to THEM to decide if it matters when it comes to THEM PUTTING MONEY ON ANY OF THESE MATCHES.

ALL THOUGHTS/INSIGHT/OPINIONS ARE WELCOME!!!!!!

one thing I would say Texas is I might be crazy probably am, but these tournaments have matches that r set up ,,,,, clear as day, just something to keep in mind when capping tennis ....all the work you do and its already fixed by the organizers

but i may be wrong also ,   I highly doubt it

lol of course it matters especially in finals and semi-finals......maybe the first couple of rounds it has 0 weight . during semis i give it a small weight factor , so to answer your question a simple no or yes is not appropriate .......I usually wait till the semi- finals  before giving this angle a hard look