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    Sportsinsights Public Percentages- Real or Fake? Discuss!

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    redpanda
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #1

    Alright so there are alot of people who like to fade the public and so on and rely on these #s given by sportsinights or pregame.com in the numbers section but the big debate is
     
     
     
     
    Are these numbers REAL or FAKE?
     
     
    what do u think? discuss!
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    Alright so there are alot of people who like to fade the public and so on and rely on these #s given by sportsinights or pregame.com in the numbers section but the big debate is
     
     
     
     
    Are these numbers REAL or FAKE?
     
     
    what do u think? discuss!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #2

    We are waiting for your SAVIOUR PLAY TONIGHT maybe 50k ?
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    We are waiting for your SAVIOUR PLAY TONIGHT maybe 50k ?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 10:44 PM ET #3

    goood question panda i do like to think that they are accurate cause i do take into account based on percentages who i bet on
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    goood question panda i do like to think that they are accurate cause i do take into account based on percentages who i bet on
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 10:52 PM ET #4

    interesting topic here
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    interesting topic here
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:00 PM ET #5

    difficult to discuss if its real or not
    since public plays sometimes wins, which means
    you wont be able to track if they won they are are not really fade the public
     
    sometimes vegas allows public to win
     
    if its always fade the public then you could easily track if they are wrong or not if a public play on those sites actually won right?
     
    and its percentage not amount of actuon
    sometimes there are more players choosing a side but more amount on the other side as well
     
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    difficult to discuss if its real or not
    since public plays sometimes wins, which means
    you wont be able to track if they won they are are not really fade the public
     
    sometimes vegas allows public to win
     
    if its always fade the public then you could easily track if they are wrong or not if a public play on those sites actually won right?
     
    and its percentage not amount of actuon
    sometimes there are more players choosing a side but more amount on the other side as well
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:03 PM ET #6

    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.
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    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:04 PM ET #7

    THERE  ITS A GREAT TOOL ,JUST DONT GO BASED ON SPORTSINSIGHT,BUT OVER ALL ITS A GREAT TOOL
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    THERE  ITS A GREAT TOOL ,JUST DONT GO BASED ON SPORTSINSIGHT,BUT OVER ALL ITS A GREAT TOOL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:10 PM ET #8

    LOL... Just like the hype in Wizetrade software ...
     
     
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    LOL... Just like the hype in Wizetrade software ...
     
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:22 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jsnots:

    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.


    I agree 100%. You can't take the consensus numbers exactly....especially wagerline numbers. I myself pick underdogs sometimes for fun on wagerline because there's no money involved. However...there are certain sites that are linked to online books and give you an average of like 6 books. Again...you can't take it literally..but it does give you a great indication of what a large group of gamblers are thinking. When you see percentages above 65%....that's a pretty good indicator that the public is leaning in a certain direction.

    Like JSNOTS said above...its about watching the line movement and how it goes against these betting consensus. Who cares how accurate they are....it's about noticing reverse line movement. Again.....a 58% consensus is nothing to raise a red flag...however....you see a game like USC/CAL tonight where USC started off as a 1.5 dog and wound up giving 2 with something like 60%+ on Cal.....there's a red flag.

    By the way....what a fucking cover that was!!!! Anybody see what happened? I went from a fortunate push to a win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnots:

    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.


    I agree 100%. You can't take the consensus numbers exactly....especially wagerline numbers. I myself pick underdogs sometimes for fun on wagerline because there's no money involved. However...there are certain sites that are linked to online books and give you an average of like 6 books. Again...you can't take it literally..but it does give you a great indication of what a large group of gamblers are thinking. When you see percentages above 65%....that's a pretty good indicator that the public is leaning in a certain direction.

    Like JSNOTS said above...its about watching the line movement and how it goes against these betting consensus. Who cares how accurate they are....it's about noticing reverse line movement. Again.....a 58% consensus is nothing to raise a red flag...however....you see a game like USC/CAL tonight where USC started off as a 1.5 dog and wound up giving 2 with something like 60%+ on Cal.....there's a red flag.

    By the way....what a fucking cover that was!!!! Anybody see what happened? I went from a fortunate push to a win!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:30 PM ET #10

    but the question still is
     
     
    are the numbers REAL or NOT??
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    but the question still is
     
     
    are the numbers REAL or NOT??
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2009 - 11:31 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by redpanda:

    but the question still is
     
     
    are the numbers REAL or NOT??

    Who cares we are waiting for you to post more plays................I cant contain myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redpanda:

    but the question still is
     
     
    are the numbers REAL or NOT??

    Who cares we are waiting for you to post more plays................I cant contain myself.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2009 - 5:14 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by jsnots:

    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.

    totally agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnots:

    Who cares if they are real or not.  It's all about the correlation with the line and line movements.  The best way to use this information is to cross reference it with wagerline and other sites that post betting % by different methods.

    totally agree
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2009 - 2:06 PM ET #13

    We all should have at least a feel as to where the public action is going, whether these numbers are real or fake.  Consensus numbers shouldn't influence you much in your decision to lay some money down on a wager that you handicapped as well as you possibly could. Yes Vegas gives the public freebies all the time, and that is why the public loses more than they win.
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    We all should have at least a feel as to where the public action is going, whether these numbers are real or fake.  Consensus numbers shouldn't influence you much in your decision to lay some money down on a wager that you handicapped as well as you possibly could. Yes Vegas gives the public freebies all the time, and that is why the public loses more than they win.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2009 - 10:03 AM ET #14

    My question is does using the "team experts",
    % win games?
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    My question is does using the "team experts",
    % win games?
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2009 - 6:30 AM ET #15

    I have been tracking the % and line movements on pregame for around 2 months now. When I started I found that if a certain matchup had a % of 65 or higher with the line moving the opposite way, that other side was gold +- 65% wins... (just NCAAB and NBA)
    This last week has been terrible.... Seems like the books want to let the public win so they have enough money for the tournament..
    I have not looked at sportsinsights #'s and % in comparison to pregame but I think I will start today.
     
    Have any of you guys/gals tracked the numbers for the NHL, or MLB ???
     
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    I have been tracking the % and line movements on pregame for around 2 months now. When I started I found that if a certain matchup had a % of 65 or higher with the line moving the opposite way, that other side was gold +- 65% wins... (just NCAAB and NBA)
    This last week has been terrible.... Seems like the books want to let the public win so they have enough money for the tournament..
    I have not looked at sportsinsights #'s and % in comparison to pregame but I think I will start today.
     
    Have any of you guys/gals tracked the numbers for the NHL, or MLB ???
     
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