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    NHL Period Total Fade

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 10:01 AM ET #1

    Period total over 1.5 fade system. I started this last season and back checked stats from the previous 2 seasons. From 2015-2017, over 90% of games played had at least 1 period with a period over 1.5

    I will choose approx 3 games/night to accommodate my BR


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    Period total over 1.5 fade system. I started this last season and back checked stats from the previous 2 seasons. From 2015-2017, over 90% of games played had at least 1 period with a period over 1.5

    I will choose approx 3 games/night to accommodate my BR


     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 10:04 AM ET #2

    I had Fade on my mind but it's a chase system 
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 1:35 PM ET #3

    I never looked at NHL period totals. If the game total is 5.5, do they set the first period at 1.5 or 2? I'm guessing 1.5. Also, will they set all periods the same or adjust after each period?
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    I never looked at NHL period totals. If the game total is 5.5, do they set the first period at 1.5 or 2? I'm guessing 1.5. Also, will they set all periods the same or adjust after each period?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 1:39 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I never looked at NHL period totals. If the game total is 5.5, do they set the first period at 1.5 or 2? I'm guessing 1.5. Also, will they set all periods the same or adjust after each period?

    I use bet365 for these hets. They usually dont pist the 2nd or 3rd period until the previous one is over. Totals are 1.5/period
    I havent seen them change in regards to the game totals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I never looked at NHL period totals. If the game total is 5.5, do they set the first period at 1.5 or 2? I'm guessing 1.5. Also, will they set all periods the same or adjust after each period?

    I use bet365 for these hets. They usually dont pist the 2nd or 3rd period until the previous one is over. Totals are 1.5/period
    I havent seen them change in regards to the game totals.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 1:42 PM ET #5

    Interesting. A 5.5 total breaks down to 1.83 goals per period, so in theory there is an advantage to betting the over 1.5.

    Best of luck, I will keep an eye on this one. Maybe do a little research of my own as well.

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    Interesting. A 5.5 total breaks down to 1.83 goals per period, so in theory there is an advantage to betting the over 1.5.

    Best of luck, I will keep an eye on this one. Maybe do a little research of my own as well.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 2:36 PM ET #6

    Here are the numbers from 2015-2016

    Games played | 1230
    Games with at least 1 period over 1230
    95.04%

    I did this with most of the 2016-2017 season . I didn't finish it but I believe it was somewhere around 93% around mid season. 
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    Here are the numbers from 2015-2016

    Games played | 1230
    Games with at least 1 period over 1230
    95.04%

    I did this with most of the 2016-2017 season . I didn't finish it but I believe it was somewhere around 93% around mid season. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2017 - 2:37 PM ET #7

    EDIT: 

    Games played | 1230
    Games with at least 1 period over 1169
    95.04%

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    Games played | 1230
    Games with at least 1 period over 1169
    95.04%

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 4:35 PM ET #8

    Looking at line history by period, I noticed that for a 5.5 total, more often than not you'll get +odds betting the 1.5 over in period 1. If that goes under the odds flip to anywhere from -130 to -165 (in general) for over 1.5 in periods 2-3. I think the value lies in betting only period 1 over.

    With the higher odds and chasing through 3 periods, a single loss will be almost 10 units lost at -130 if you chase to win 1 unit.

    I'm in the middle of testing last year, and so far over 50% of the games of 5.5 totals go over 1.5 in period 1. At plus odds and playing on labby line, could be a good little profit.

    If someone is good at writing scripts for research, please post the formula on this thread. I can't wrap my head around those scripts, tried and failed numerous times.

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    Looking at line history by period, I noticed that for a 5.5 total, more often than not you'll get +odds betting the 1.5 over in period 1. If that goes under the odds flip to anywhere from -130 to -165 (in general) for over 1.5 in periods 2-3. I think the value lies in betting only period 1 over.

    With the higher odds and chasing through 3 periods, a single loss will be almost 10 units lost at -130 if you chase to win 1 unit.

    I'm in the middle of testing last year, and so far over 50% of the games of 5.5 totals go over 1.5 in period 1. At plus odds and playing on labby line, could be a good little profit.

    If someone is good at writing scripts for research, please post the formula on this thread. I can't wrap my head around those scripts, tried and failed numerous times.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 9:15 AM ET #9

    I can script this is Excel. Just a lot of data to pull. Dan, if you want , PM me and maybe we can work together on wining some money.

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    All games on opening night had a period with 1 period over. I was lucky and only took the pittsburgh and Toronto game and hit both in the first. Quick $  
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    I can script this is Excel. Just a lot of data to pull. Dan, if you want , PM me and maybe we can work together on wining some money.

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    All games on opening night had a period with 1 period over. I was lucky and only took the pittsburgh and Toronto game and hit both in the first. Quick $  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 9:26 AM ET #10

    Also, if Period 1 + 2 are both under, the probably of the 3rd hitting is over 90%. Skipping the 1st and 2nd period bet all together and betting large on the 3rd may be just as profitable with less risk 
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    Also, if Period 1 + 2 are both under, the probably of the 3rd hitting is over 90%. Skipping the 1st and 2nd period bet all together and betting large on the 3rd may be just as profitable with less risk 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 10:49 AM ET #11

    My book doesn't have betting on periods 2 and 3 during the game.  All 3 periods are available pre game but not during. Without that, I cannot play this system. 
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    My book doesn't have betting on periods 2 and 3 during the game.  All 3 periods are available pre game but not during. Without that, I cannot play this system. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 11:01 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    My book doesn't have betting on periods 2 and 3 during the game.  All 3 periods are available pre game but not during. Without that, I cannot play this system. 

    I'm in the same boat. Really like the looks of this system, but unfortunately wouldn't work on my book. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    My book doesn't have betting on periods 2 and 3 during the game.  All 3 periods are available pre game but not during. Without that, I cannot play this system. 

    I'm in the same boat. Really like the looks of this system, but unfortunately wouldn't work on my book. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 11:34 AM ET #13

    My Local book only has 1st period so I use bet365 for this system only. 
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    My Local book only has 1st period so I use bet365 for this system only. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 1:46 PM ET #14

    they don't post totals LIVE in the NHL?
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #15

    never mind…stupid question…

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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 2:01 PM ET #16

    The only way I could play this would be to do so on a labby line for period 1 only. Period 1 has the lowest odds and my research shows about a 46.5% win rate on the games I tested at 5.5 total over the last 2 years.

    Still thinking about this.

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    The only way I could play this would be to do so on a labby line for period 1 only. Period 1 has the lowest odds and my research shows about a 46.5% win rate on the games I tested at 5.5 total over the last 2 years.

    Still thinking about this.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2017 - 10:24 AM ET #17

    What you could do is only play the first period of one game, then if it doesn't hit play the first period of a 2nd game at a later start time. You would have way less plays per day, but this might reduce risk too. Just a thought, haven't tested it to see if it would work within the start times.
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    What you could do is only play the first period of one game, then if it doesn't hit play the first period of a 2nd game at a later start time. You would have way less plays per day, but this might reduce risk too. Just a thought, haven't tested it to see if it would work within the start times.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    The only way I could play this would be to do so on a labby line for period 1 only. Period 1 has the lowest odds and my research shows about a 46.5% win rate on the games I tested at 5.5 total over the last 2 years.

    Still thinking about this.


    Thanks for the research Dan.

    Im thinking if its hitting at 46.5% for the overs, that must mean the unders is hitting at 53.5%..... I know the unders is usually minus odds but at the higher win % the labby lines will be clearing at a much faster rate.

    How is the distribution of results? Are there long stretches of losing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    The only way I could play this would be to do so on a labby line for period 1 only. Period 1 has the lowest odds and my research shows about a 46.5% win rate on the games I tested at 5.5 total over the last 2 years.

    Still thinking about this.


    Thanks for the research Dan.

    Im thinking if its hitting at 46.5% for the overs, that must mean the unders is hitting at 53.5%..... I know the unders is usually minus odds but at the higher win % the labby lines will be clearing at a much faster rate.

    How is the distribution of results? Are there long stretches of losing?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2017 - 10:46 AM ET #19

    What I've been doing is playing all games that my book has at 5.5 as a total and betting the over 1.5 for Per1. Using a labby line, I play all the early games, then adjust lines for later games. This works well with the NHLs schedule and the first period lasting less than 1 hour. 

    So far the over has hit on 7 of 8 games. Yes this system can have decent size streaks. 
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    What I've been doing is playing all games that my book has at 5.5 as a total and betting the over 1.5 for Per1. Using a labby line, I play all the early games, then adjust lines for later games. This works well with the NHLs schedule and the first period lasting less than 1 hour. 

    So far the over has hit on 7 of 8 games. Yes this system can have decent size streaks. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 1:46 AM ET #20

    Doing the same system only when the total is 6
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 2:27 AM ET #21

    Betting 1st period only march had a 5game losing streak. Betting a period chase per game had 2 losing games so a labbyline is what i'll use. Backtested using SBR untill I was blocked on last Oct. What is a good site to backtest? cant find one on Covers.I wonder how a Stoffo parlay would work?
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    Betting 1st period only march had a 5game losing streak. Betting a period chase per game had 2 losing games so a labbyline is what i'll use. Backtested using SBR untill I was blocked on last Oct. What is a good site to backtest? cant find one on Covers.I wonder how a Stoffo parlay would work?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2017 - 2:47 AM ET #22

    The 2 losing games mentioned before were for the year not for March
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