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    Need MM Advice on 80-6 system

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 4:58 PM ET #1

    I developed a very simple system which involves a 3 game chase for the result you want. My problem lies in managing the money. The system produces between 20-30 plays per week and this is just on NCAA football. I was going to use a modified Labby but I can't seem to find a successful means to track losses and then recoup them using the following games with the same team w/o doing a straight up chase adding losses to my original bet-to-win amount. As we all know, 6 system losses would mean 18 actual losses which at -110 odds adds up to around $700 per system loss betting to win $100 per series. This produces profit but no enough for me to consider it overly successful. I have been racking my brain for 3 months now and have yet to come up with an effective MM system. So please.....anyone....Help me if you can. The issue lies in the sheer number of games and then keeping up with the losses and rebets for the series
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    I developed a very simple system which involves a 3 game chase for the result you want. My problem lies in managing the money. The system produces between 20-30 plays per week and this is just on NCAA football. I was going to use a modified Labby but I can't seem to find a successful means to track losses and then recoup them using the following games with the same team w/o doing a straight up chase adding losses to my original bet-to-win amount. As we all know, 6 system losses would mean 18 actual losses which at -110 odds adds up to around $700 per system loss betting to win $100 per series. This produces profit but no enough for me to consider it overly successful. I have been racking my brain for 3 months now and have yet to come up with an effective MM system. So please.....anyone....Help me if you can. The issue lies in the sheer number of games and then keeping up with the losses and rebets for the series
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 5:58 PM ET #2

    Have you ever heard this:

      If you are a $50 player

    Game 1 line: 25-25-25-25

    Game 2 line:  25-25-25-25

    Game 3 line: 25-25-25-25

    By doing this, you prevent one bad team or back to back bad teams from getting you in an uncomfortable position.  For example....in our traditional Labourchere set up if we were to lose a system play, where our team lost 3 straight games that we were playing, a $50 base bettor like above would have a line of: 

    25-25-25-25-50-75-100.....

    and your next wager would be $125

     

     

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    Have you ever heard this:

      If you are a $50 player

    Game 1 line: 25-25-25-25

    Game 2 line:  25-25-25-25

    Game 3 line: 25-25-25-25

    By doing this, you prevent one bad team or back to back bad teams from getting you in an uncomfortable position.  For example....in our traditional Labourchere set up if we were to lose a system play, where our team lost 3 straight games that we were playing, a $50 base bettor like above would have a line of: 

    25-25-25-25-50-75-100.....

    and your next wager would be $125

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 5:59 PM ET #3

    Lets take a look at how our latest research would handle that same situation....

    With this latest way of managing our money using the Labourchere, you work each GAME NUMBER on it's own line. 

    So if you lose game 1 your new GAME 1 line would be: 25-25-25-25-50 .......but your next wager would only be $50 as you would move to your game 2 line for game 2 of that system play.....Are you following?   Read it again if you aren't.

    If you have more than one game 1 going at the same time...you play them all at the current wager and adjust your line.

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    Lets take a look at how our latest research would handle that same situation....

    With this latest way of managing our money using the Labourchere, you work each GAME NUMBER on it's own line. 

    So if you lose game 1 your new GAME 1 line would be: 25-25-25-25-50 .......but your next wager would only be $50 as you would move to your game 2 line for game 2 of that system play.....Are you following?   Read it again if you aren't.

    If you have more than one game 1 going at the same time...you play them all at the current wager and adjust your line.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 5:59 PM ET #4

    Lets say you have 2 new plays today and your current game 1 line is:

    25-25-25-25-50.  

    Play them BOTH for $75 and then adjust your line after the games are completed.   Ok, lets look at every scenario of those two game 1's and how we would handle the line.

    If both games win, you would clear that entire line.  Do you understand why?  After the first game wins your line would look like: X-25-25-25-X and since we wagered 75 on EACH of our two plays that day, our second 75 wager would clear the remaining $75  (X-25-25-25-X) 

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    Lets say you have 2 new plays today and your current game 1 line is:

    25-25-25-25-50.  

    Play them BOTH for $75 and then adjust your line after the games are completed.   Ok, lets look at every scenario of those two game 1's and how we would handle the line.

    If both games win, you would clear that entire line.  Do you understand why?  After the first game wins your line would look like: X-25-25-25-X and since we wagered 75 on EACH of our two plays that day, our second 75 wager would clear the remaining $75  (X-25-25-25-X) 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 6:00 PM ET #5

    If one game wins and one game loses....your line remains UNCHANGED....Right? you broke even so there is no sense in raising your bet after an even day.

    Finally, if both wagers lose you simply add the two losing wagers to the end of the line and your new line would be: 25-25-25-25-50-75-75.

    Again, ALL game 1's get applied on the GAME 1 LINE.   All game 2's to the GAME 2 LINE, and all game 3's to the GAME 3 Line.   By working each game number independently, our research has shown that you'll have significantly less at risk during any cold streaks while still being able to take advantage of the hot streaks.

    RAISING YOUR WAGER.....after you've cleared your line 1 twice you will raise all 3 lines to match  your line one.   Since you'll obviously have more Game 1 plays than any other, it only makes sense to use that as  your key as to when to raise your bet.


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    If one game wins and one game loses....your line remains UNCHANGED....Right? you broke even so there is no sense in raising your bet after an even day.

    Finally, if both wagers lose you simply add the two losing wagers to the end of the line and your new line would be: 25-25-25-25-50-75-75.

    Again, ALL game 1's get applied on the GAME 1 LINE.   All game 2's to the GAME 2 LINE, and all game 3's to the GAME 3 Line.   By working each game number independently, our research has shown that you'll have significantly less at risk during any cold streaks while still being able to take advantage of the hot streaks.

    RAISING YOUR WAGER.....after you've cleared your line 1 twice you will raise all 3 lines to match  your line one.   Since you'll obviously have more Game 1 plays than any other, it only makes sense to use that as  your key as to when to raise your bet.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 6:00 PM ET #6

    I hope that helps...unless you already knew it
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    I hope that helps...unless you already knew it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 8:09 PM ET #7

    I got that same info from PSIC but it is hard to handle considering there were for example 13(A) plays, 8(B) plays and 4(C) plays this last week. If I were to bet to recoup my losses on just the first 8 (A) plays then it would mean I could never walk away from the computer. I would have to monitor every game and bet the early results against the late games. Thank for your info though. The system produces winners. I just have to fund an effective MM system. I did the math on straight betting and you lose $845 on a series loss so this system even at 80 wins has only made $2910 for the year
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    I got that same info from PSIC but it is hard to handle considering there were for example 13(A) plays, 8(B) plays and 4(C) plays this last week. If I were to bet to recoup my losses on just the first 8 (A) plays then it would mean I could never walk away from the computer. I would have to monitor every game and bet the early results against the late games. Thank for your info though. The system produces winners. I just have to fund an effective MM system. I did the math on straight betting and you lose $845 on a series loss so this system even at 80 wins has only made $2910 for the year
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 11:15 PM ET #8

    Fireman,

    I know some other mony managements systems. PM me and I will send you to a thread that has a bunch of them. Maybe one of them can help you?

    Matt

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    Fireman,

    I know some other mony managements systems. PM me and I will send you to a thread that has a bunch of them. Maybe one of them can help you?

    Matt

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 - 11:55 PM ET #9

    Hey Matt, I'd be interested in those MM systems as well.

    Love to have more knowledge on the journey....

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    Hey Matt, I'd be interested in those MM systems as well.

    Love to have more knowledge on the journey....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2009 - 9:05 PM ET #10

    Do you mind on sharing the system? could use the help.
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 1:46 PM ET #11

    eugene i little systems and stragies i see anything to help you out!  My Man keep up the good work but for me its been pretty good and you know about it buddy!  I wish i had a paper to show me the a and b and c bets each night!!!!  Help me out eugene!  And dont forget about the avalanche tonight buddy
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    eugene i little systems and stragies i see anything to help you out!  My Man keep up the good work but for me its been pretty good and you know about it buddy!  I wish i had a paper to show me the a and b and c bets each night!!!!  Help me out eugene!  And dont forget about the avalanche tonight buddy
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 2:30 PM ET #12

    I will share this sytem in exchange for someone teaching us all a way to make a mountain of money by learning to manage it. It has so many plays every week that it makes it tough to figure out and keep track of the money and bets. I track it every week with the results here on covers.com. I have won some money using it for reference on which bets i think are hottest such as multiple teams needing the same outcome and playing each other. Ill be back on later to out line it. I have a lot of hours of research in it and need a break from this computer. It will take me a while to outline it
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    I will share this sytem in exchange for someone teaching us all a way to make a mountain of money by learning to manage it. It has so many plays every week that it makes it tough to figure out and keep track of the money and bets. I track it every week with the results here on covers.com. I have won some money using it for reference on which bets i think are hottest such as multiple teams needing the same outcome and playing each other. Ill be back on later to out line it. I have a lot of hours of research in it and need a break from this computer. It will take me a while to outline it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2009 - 4:08 PM ET #13

    Added as friend. I can help.

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    Added as friend. I can help.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2009 - 4:08 PM ET #14

    Fireman, if you would like me to take a look and apply this to one of my personal management strategies, please send me the results and I will be glad to see if it pans out.

    Thanks and good luck.

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    Fireman, if you would like me to take a look and apply this to one of my personal management strategies, please send me the results and I will be glad to see if it pans out.

    Thanks and good luck.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2009 - 9:58 AM ET #15

    Fireman2, how long have you been tracking a system that produces 20-30 plays a week and only has a 86 series results?

    You mentioned working on the management plan for over 3 months and I was just wondering if you have past results or is this something new.

    Thanks.

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    Fireman2, how long have you been tracking a system that produces 20-30 plays a week and only has a 86 series results?

    You mentioned working on the management plan for over 3 months and I was just wondering if you have past results or is this something new.

    Thanks.

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