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    My own NCAAF system

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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2009 - 7:57 PM ET #1

    After coming up with many ideas for possible systems and backtesting them all several years I came up with a few "hits" that seem to pull in a decent profit every year.   I will share one of them.  Was 66% last season.   You typically get 30-35 plays per year from the system.  Wait a few weeks into the year to give the stats a chance to balance out.  Then bet AGAINST any team getting 20 or more points who's DEFENSE averages over 5 yards per carry.  The concept was that games with large spreads like that are typically blowouts, thus the favorite spends most of the second half rushing the ball to waste clock.  Average per carry seemed like a far more accurate way of finding bad run defenses than total yards or avg yards per game which have too many coincidental and situational variables.  Also, grab them as soon as the lines come out.  These big favorite type of lines typically go up a couple points during the week from the opening line.
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    After coming up with many ideas for possible systems and backtesting them all several years I came up with a few "hits" that seem to pull in a decent profit every year.   I will share one of them.  Was 66% last season.   You typically get 30-35 plays per year from the system.  Wait a few weeks into the year to give the stats a chance to balance out.  Then bet AGAINST any team getting 20 or more points who's DEFENSE averages over 5 yards per carry.  The concept was that games with large spreads like that are typically blowouts, thus the favorite spends most of the second half rushing the ball to waste clock.  Average per carry seemed like a far more accurate way of finding bad run defenses than total yards or avg yards per game which have too many coincidental and situational variables.  Also, grab them as soon as the lines come out.  These big favorite type of lines typically go up a couple points during the week from the opening line.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KissAPistol:

    After coming up with many ideas for possible systems and backtesting them all several years I came up with a few "hits" that seem to pull in a decent profit every year.   I will share one of them.  Was 66% last season.   You typically get 30-35 plays per year from the system.  Wait a few weeks into the year to give the stats a chance to balance out.  Then bet AGAINST any team getting 20 or more points who's DEFENSE averages over 5 yards per carry.  The concept was that games with large spreads like that are typically blowouts, thus the favorite spends most of the second half rushing the ball to waste clock.  Average per carry seemed like a far more accurate way of finding bad run defenses than total yards or avg yards per game which have too many coincidental and situational variables.  Also, grab them as soon as the lines come out.  These big favorite type of lines typically go up a couple points during the week from the opening line.
    So we are looking at Central Mich and AZ St
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    After coming up with many ideas for possible systems and backtesting them all several years I came up with a few "hits" that seem to pull in a decent profit every year.   I will share one of them.  Was 66% last season.   You typically get 30-35 plays per year from the system.  Wait a few weeks into the year to give the stats a chance to balance out.  Then bet AGAINST any team getting 20 or more points who's DEFENSE averages over 5 yards per carry.  The concept was that games with large spreads like that are typically blowouts, thus the favorite spends most of the second half rushing the ball to waste clock.  Average per carry seemed like a far more accurate way of finding bad run defenses than total yards or avg yards per game which have too many coincidental and situational variables.  Also, grab them as soon as the lines come out.  These big favorite type of lines typically go up a couple points during the week from the opening line.
    So we are looking at Central Mich and AZ St
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2009 - 9:31 PM ET #3

    correctamundo.

    p.s  The system is 4-2 to start this year (started wagering week 4).
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    correctamundo.

    p.s  The system is 4-2 to start this year (started wagering week 4).
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2009 - 10:17 AM ET #4

    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....
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    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....
     
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    Quick Question, have you ever tried to filter it by only betting on teams that also average more than 5 yards per carry as well?  Do you think that could take a system like this and make it a 75% or better winner as opposed to the 66% it currently gets....?
     
    Just an idea, not sure if you had already looked at it. 
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    Quick Question, have you ever tried to filter it by only betting on teams that also average more than 5 yards per carry as well?  Do you think that could take a system like this and make it a 75% or better winner as opposed to the 66% it currently gets....?
     
    Just an idea, not sure if you had already looked at it. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMang:

    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....


    I backtested this 4 years and was over 60% 3 of the 4 years (54% the one off year).   I was looking at some filters including the one you mentioned but all it was really doing was reducing the amount of plays to just a few a year.   I still plan on looking at a few less strict filters that could possibly increase the % without eliminating too many plays.  In the meantime, I think the winning% is good enough to stand on it's own.  I will keep posting the plays in here. 
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    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....


    I backtested this 4 years and was over 60% 3 of the 4 years (54% the one off year).   I was looking at some filters including the one you mentioned but all it was really doing was reducing the amount of plays to just a few a year.   I still plan on looking at a few less strict filters that could possibly increase the % without eliminating too many plays.  In the meantime, I think the winning% is good enough to stand on it's own.  I will keep posting the plays in here. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMang:

    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....



    Wow.  I am glad you made this suggestion.  I applied this filter to just last season and it turned the 66% winning percentage into a 81% winning percentage.  It does take away roughly 75% of the plays though so you may be limited to roughly one game a week.  Granted I have only backtested that filter one season so far, but we may be on to something here. 
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    Pistol....I have seen your research on some other systems, so I don't doubt that you have backtested your own stuff.  I am going to give these two plays a whirl today and see how it goes....  You going to keep posting these plays as they come along? 
     
    Thanks for sharing it....



    Wow.  I am glad you made this suggestion.  I applied this filter to just last season and it turned the 66% winning percentage into a 81% winning percentage.  It does take away roughly 75% of the plays though so you may be limited to roughly one game a week.  Granted I have only backtested that filter one season so far, but we may be on to something here. 
     
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    I started a new thread ("my own ncaaf system part 2") with updated filters to improve it.  Let this thread die.
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