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    bettor2win
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 9:41 PM ET #51

    If you are winning you should already understand these things. It doesnt matter the sport you bet on. Odss are odds Ddubb...if you have made money you already understand this stuff. Soccer? Odds are huge, even bigger than baseball. Basketball? Football? You are fighting the point spread. Come on man. If you have won you should know the basics of a -200 line. You asked earlier what a bet amount should be. Well, you have won and have a 5K balance to show. Don't ask questions a new bettor is trying to figure out. I gave you answers you already knew but came back with "it wont work" kind of system. So dude, come on. You, if you have won, should know these answers. Not hating btw.
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    If you are winning you should already understand these things. It doesnt matter the sport you bet on. Odss are odds Ddubb...if you have made money you already understand this stuff. Soccer? Odds are huge, even bigger than baseball. Basketball? Football? You are fighting the point spread. Come on man. If you have won you should know the basics of a -200 line. You asked earlier what a bet amount should be. Well, you have won and have a 5K balance to show. Don't ask questions a new bettor is trying to figure out. I gave you answers you already knew but came back with "it wont work" kind of system. So dude, come on. You, if you have won, should know these answers. Not hating btw.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 9:52 PM ET #52

    Doing a chase system is completely different than flat betting. I have never chased. I don't know what to expect as far as how many system plays will be going on at one time, how much funding will be required to double, triple and quadruple-down on your losses. 

    If I understand Cisco correctly, he does not play all of the qualifying plays in any given system. So even if a system ends up producing +125 units, he may not have been all of those plays. And the reason for not being on certain qualifying plays is exactly what I am getting at... your bankroll is not sufficient to play all of the qualifying plays.  I definitely do not view this 'hobby' as a get rich quick scheme. Although, if we all had $50K bankrolls, we could do all of these systems and never work another day in our lives. But since most of us are dealing with less than $10K, we have to be happy with some extra pocket change.
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    Doing a chase system is completely different than flat betting. I have never chased. I don't know what to expect as far as how many system plays will be going on at one time, how much funding will be required to double, triple and quadruple-down on your losses. 

    If I understand Cisco correctly, he does not play all of the qualifying plays in any given system. So even if a system ends up producing +125 units, he may not have been all of those plays. And the reason for not being on certain qualifying plays is exactly what I am getting at... your bankroll is not sufficient to play all of the qualifying plays.  I definitely do not view this 'hobby' as a get rich quick scheme. Although, if we all had $50K bankrolls, we could do all of these systems and never work another day in our lives. But since most of us are dealing with less than $10K, we have to be happy with some extra pocket change.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 10:20 PM ET #53

    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
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    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 10:35 PM ET #54

    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
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    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2012 - 10:43 PM ET #55

    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
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    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 12:51 AM ET #56

    Cisco,

    Do you have the files for each system that shows all the plays and not just the days they won on?  If so, I would like to take a look.  I would like to see what the average juice was per play and how many plays per day as examples.  PM me the details if you have any.  Thanks. 
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    Cisco,

    Do you have the files for each system that shows all the plays and not just the days they won on?  If so, I would like to take a look.  I would like to see what the average juice was per play and how many plays per day as examples.  PM me the details if you have any.  Thanks. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 2:21 AM ET #57

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 2:28 AM ET #58

    Those don't have the plays that lost.  Those only have the games listed that WON.  They also don't have the juice listed.  I was just curious if you had all that information stored somewhere.  I was wondering what the average price/play is like.   
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    Those don't have the plays that lost.  Those only have the games listed that WON.  They also don't have the juice listed.  I was just curious if you had all that information stored somewhere.  I was wondering what the average price/play is like.   
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 2:40 AM ET #59

    The dog chase is confusing to me.  I read the rules with some of the teams from last year and still can't get it figured out. 

    How does Arizona's win on 5/7 over San Diego trigger a play on 5/11?  They had alternating wins and no streak at all. 

    Baltimore was only coming off 2 losses and didn't have a streak broken on 4/13 against NYY. 




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    The dog chase is confusing to me.  I read the rules with some of the teams from last year and still can't get it figured out. 

    How does Arizona's win on 5/7 over San Diego trigger a play on 5/11?  They had alternating wins and no streak at all. 

    Baltimore was only coming off 2 losses and didn't have a streak broken on 4/13 against NYY. 




     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 3:05 AM ET #60

    Thanks for the help, Cisco.  Got the doggy chase all figured out. 
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    Thanks for the help, Cisco.  Got the doggy chase all figured out. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 7:57 AM ET #61

    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
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    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 8:03 AM ET #62

    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
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    Amen Ddubb..I hear ya again. Baseball systems are the best there is out there btw. You have to bet low and let it grow. 1K can easily turn into 6-9K by seasons end. But winning $20-$50 at a time isnt appealing to most. Especially when it means betting $123 for a $25 win. But these chases work. It's not about one win, it's about 94 wins at $25 winnings. Or even more. MLB IS the best to bet on and win. NFL may be king, but those bettors lose more than they win. MLB is the darkhorse. Its a winner if you follow.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 8:13 AM ET #63

    I would love to do the leg work on these systems but just can't break away during day. Will anybody be posting these picks this year?
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    I would love to do the leg work on these systems but just can't break away during day. Will anybody be posting these picks this year?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2012 - 7:42 PM ET #64

     

    Listen fellas, nobody wants to do the work it takes to make all this money.  They'd rather dig ditches 10 hrs a day to make $100. 

     

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    Listen fellas, nobody wants to do the work it takes to make all this money.  They'd rather dig ditches 10 hrs a day to make $100. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2012 - 9:39 PM ET #65

    hawk? You call this work? Good luck with that shovel...

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    hawk? You call this work? Good luck with that shovel...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 9:36 AM ET #66

    Some people just don't get it.  Steadily dumb u would be one.
    You start crunching #s.  Do you know what that means.  And that orange don't look good on you.
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    Some people just don't get it.  Steadily dumb u would be one.
    You start crunching #s.  Do you know what that means.  And that orange don't look good on you.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 9:42 AM ET #67

    By the way dumb, the only time I've picked up a shovel lately is planting trees at my 200,000 home.  
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    By the way dumb, the only time I've picked up a shovel lately is planting trees at my 200,000 home.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 9:44 AM ET #68

    Now post the plays for us,...
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    Now post the plays for us,...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 12:27 PM ET #69

    Okay Hawk, I can see you are exciteable. So I will be extra patient with you. Since you have not said exactly what bothers you with these systems, I am going to assume that you do not like to chase. And I will guess that you do not like to chase because of the possible mounting of funds in play that could result in a complete drain of one's bankroll. If those are true assumptions, I am with you. I agree totally. And that is why I have been crunching the numbers and will not be chasing 4 games on these systems. I plan to skip the first game and possibly the 2nd game on these chases. I believe that I personally can be more profitable by doing so. It may not be right for others, I realize this. 

    But anyway, hawk, if you have something profitable to share with us, please do. 

    $200,000? And you're bragging about it?   
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    Okay Hawk, I can see you are exciteable. So I will be extra patient with you. Since you have not said exactly what bothers you with these systems, I am going to assume that you do not like to chase. And I will guess that you do not like to chase because of the possible mounting of funds in play that could result in a complete drain of one's bankroll. If those are true assumptions, I am with you. I agree totally. And that is why I have been crunching the numbers and will not be chasing 4 games on these systems. I plan to skip the first game and possibly the 2nd game on these chases. I believe that I personally can be more profitable by doing so. It may not be right for others, I realize this. 

    But anyway, hawk, if you have something profitable to share with us, please do. 

    $200,000? And you're bragging about it?   
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 10:39 PM ET #70

    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.
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    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 10:47 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.

    you can bet college basketball qtrs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.

    you can bet college basketball qtrs?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:


    you can bet college basketball qtrs?



    You can bet (1st 10 minutes) which would be the equivalent of 1st quarter. 
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    you can bet college basketball qtrs?



    You can bet (1st 10 minutes) which would be the equivalent of 1st quarter. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 11:21 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by Alldaygambler28:




    You can bet (1st 10 minutes) which would be the equivalent of 1st quarter. 

    good to know!  please post what research you have...would be great to get another system going!
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    You can bet (1st 10 minutes) which would be the equivalent of 1st quarter. 

    good to know!  please post what research you have...would be great to get another system going!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2012 - 11:22 PM ET #74

    btw just go back to page one of this thread and read thru it...all system explanations are there.
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    btw just go back to page one of this thread and read thru it...all system explanations are there.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.

    The 5 run (and un .470) is easy. Bettor2win will be running the system this year. He'll let you know when to start. You'll be looking at the scores every day looking for teams that won by 5 or more runs. I guarantee it!

    I'll be running the Home Favorite system. When there's a play I'll post it.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdE5tcmE0NzZDb01TYzJMN3Q4QkRYSnc

    The one rule is in there.

    GL-

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

    I feel like i have lived in isolation when i read the slang here, downloaded your systems.  Dont get it.  I suppose i need help you have a home favorite system and a .470 system duh help.  Gosh you dont have to.  I read your NBA system last night and have already used it on 52 teams in College, it works. I am not sure it works the way you meant it to.  19 wins vs 6 losses.  IF you wait to bet on game 8 will have the data for the app 250 teams but it will take some time and will repost.  Is there a post here that explains the .470 system and home favorites?  Any help is appreciated.

    The 5 run (and un .470) is easy. Bettor2win will be running the system this year. He'll let you know when to start. You'll be looking at the scores every day looking for teams that won by 5 or more runs. I guarantee it!

    I'll be running the Home Favorite system. When there's a play I'll post it.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdE5tcmE0NzZDb01TYzJMN3Q4QkRYSnc

    The one rule is in there.

    GL-

     

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