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    jm's C bet loses

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    jerblack
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 8:33 PM ET #1

    wondering what the f he's going to say about this one.
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 8:43 PM ET #2

    What game/sport?
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 10:29 PM ET #3

    Wow, what an amazing way to end an incredible streak of undefeated
    seasons. who would have thought...but as they say, all good things
    must come to an end. We've been absolutely on fire over the last 3
    years of sports with an unprecedented winning streak of 221
    straight winners and not one single loss! Tonight's game on Houston
    has marked only the very first time when we're not able to cover in
    almost 6 entire seasons of sports!

    Coming into the game, Houston is one of those rare cases where a
    betting series continues even though our team has won its previous
    games. According to my extensive research, continuing a betting series
    even though the team you're betting on has won any of the games
    straight up will vastly increase the risk of your bet. Since Houston
    won the game yesterday straight up (even though they did not cover the
    spread), their chances of covering the [C] wager decreases dramatically.

    Going forward, it is advisable to wager on the money line if the
    team you're betting on is a favorite of more than 3 points. This
    way, we will never again encounter a situation where we will have
    to continue a betting series even though the team we're betting on
    has won a game during the series, and we'll never again encounter
    such a loss as in what we've experienced today with Houston.

    Wagering on the Money Line would have reeled in the win for this
    Houston series on the [B] wager. However, going strictly by the
    point spread we'd mark this one down as a loss. Surely it's nice to
    go on such a gargantuan undefeated winning streak as we have been,
    but losing is not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" - It is a
    mathematical certainty that we can't go on winning forever. Tonight
    Houston has surely been a slight bump in the road, but had you been
    wagering with the NBA system since the beginning of the season,
    you'll still be waaayyyy ahead by a massive amount of heart-pounding
    profits at this point! Many more incredible betting opportunies are
    waiting ahead, and like me, I'm sure you too can't wait to cash in
    on the rest of this season together!

    Now let's go get our streak started again! Buckle up, and get yourself
    ready for yet another mind-blowing winning ride of your life

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    Wow, what an amazing way to end an incredible streak of undefeated
    seasons. who would have thought...but as they say, all good things
    must come to an end. We've been absolutely on fire over the last 3
    years of sports with an unprecedented winning streak of 221
    straight winners and not one single loss! Tonight's game on Houston
    has marked only the very first time when we're not able to cover in
    almost 6 entire seasons of sports!

    Coming into the game, Houston is one of those rare cases where a
    betting series continues even though our team has won its previous
    games. According to my extensive research, continuing a betting series
    even though the team you're betting on has won any of the games
    straight up will vastly increase the risk of your bet. Since Houston
    won the game yesterday straight up (even though they did not cover the
    spread), their chances of covering the [C] wager decreases dramatically.

    Going forward, it is advisable to wager on the money line if the
    team you're betting on is a favorite of more than 3 points. This
    way, we will never again encounter a situation where we will have
    to continue a betting series even though the team we're betting on
    has won a game during the series, and we'll never again encounter
    such a loss as in what we've experienced today with Houston.

    Wagering on the Money Line would have reeled in the win for this
    Houston series on the [B] wager. However, going strictly by the
    point spread we'd mark this one down as a loss. Surely it's nice to
    go on such a gargantuan undefeated winning streak as we have been,
    but losing is not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" - It is a
    mathematical certainty that we can't go on winning forever. Tonight
    Houston has surely been a slight bump in the road, but had you been
    wagering with the NBA system since the beginning of the season,
    you'll still be waaayyyy ahead by a massive amount of heart-pounding
    profits at this point! Many more incredible betting opportunies are
    waiting ahead, and like me, I'm sure you too can't wait to cash in
    on the rest of this season together!

    Now let's go get our streak started again! Buckle up, and get yourself
    ready for yet another mind-blowing winning ride of your life

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 10:40 PM ET #4

    what a shit!
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    what a shit!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 10:40 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    What game/sport?
    houston...nba
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    What game/sport?
    houston...nba
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #6

    Vinko, give me a break.  there wasn't 221 straight wins.  JM is a liar.  You have to either be new or well.....I'll leave it at that.

    MLB 08   there were 7 losses.  Not just 7 games mind you but 7 "C"bet losses.  Then JM put some filters in and magically said that his record was 41-0 or some shit.

    NBA 07 had 2 losses, NBA 08 had 1 loss.  I've been playing this system for my 7th season now and it was around long before JM ripped it and sold it.  NBA averages 2 losses per season so don't insult everyone in here by talking about some phantom 221-0 run that NEVER happened.  If you'd like copies of the emails from the 08 baseball season proving the 7 losses...I have them along with many others in here so don't be a fool.  The system works but he's a liar and a scumbag and there is no getting around that.

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    Vinko, give me a break.  there wasn't 221 straight wins.  JM is a liar.  You have to either be new or well.....I'll leave it at that.

    MLB 08   there were 7 losses.  Not just 7 games mind you but 7 "C"bet losses.  Then JM put some filters in and magically said that his record was 41-0 or some shit.

    NBA 07 had 2 losses, NBA 08 had 1 loss.  I've been playing this system for my 7th season now and it was around long before JM ripped it and sold it.  NBA averages 2 losses per season so don't insult everyone in here by talking about some phantom 221-0 run that NEVER happened.  If you'd like copies of the emails from the 08 baseball season proving the 7 losses...I have them along with many others in here so don't be a fool.  The system works but he's a liar and a scumbag and there is no getting around that.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #7

    I'd even say that Detroit was a C loss this year too, but he lies about the line he got in the B game.
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    I'd even say that Detroit was a C loss this year too, but he lies about the line he got in the B game.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2009 - 1:06 PM ET #8

    Philly may very well be a v2 [c] bet loss tonight - but probably will sneak out a v1[c] bet win vs sac on 12/30
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    Philly may very well be a v2 [c] bet loss tonight - but probably will sneak out a v1[c] bet win vs sac on 12/30
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2009 - 2:52 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinko:

    Wow, what an amazing way to end an incredible streak of undefeated
    seasons.


    Are you kidding me? Morrison is the biggest scammer on the internet when it comes to sports betting/systems. He never had a streak. Every year he loses a c bet atleast once a month. This guy offers high affiliate commission for anyone who joins his affiliate program and promotes his system...this has gotten him many cheerleaders from poor countries promoting his service. These cheerleaders often pretend to be winning customers and tout his system. You will lose your ass if you follow his system and picks.

    Stick to reputable cappers like "bettingresource" that uses strict money management and disciple with past 4 years of picks in the archives. 

    If you see anyone doing progressive style systems or any sort of systems and if you are tempted to join, don't do it because I guarantee you that you will lose your ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinko:

    Wow, what an amazing way to end an incredible streak of undefeated
    seasons.


    Are you kidding me? Morrison is the biggest scammer on the internet when it comes to sports betting/systems. He never had a streak. Every year he loses a c bet atleast once a month. This guy offers high affiliate commission for anyone who joins his affiliate program and promotes his system...this has gotten him many cheerleaders from poor countries promoting his service. These cheerleaders often pretend to be winning customers and tout his system. You will lose your ass if you follow his system and picks.

    Stick to reputable cappers like "bettingresource" that uses strict money management and disciple with past 4 years of picks in the archives. 

    If you see anyone doing progressive style systems or any sort of systems and if you are tempted to join, don't do it because I guarantee you that you will lose your ass!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2009 - 4:17 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by loganxman:


    Are you kidding me? Morrison is the biggest scammer on the internet when it comes to sports betting/systems. He never had a streak. Every year he loses a c bet atleast once a month. This guy offers high affiliate commission for anyone who joins his affiliate program and promotes his system...this has gotten him many cheerleaders from poor countries promoting his service. These cheerleaders often pretend to be winning customers and tout his system. You will lose your ass if you follow his system and picks.

    Stick to reputable cappers like "bettingresource" that uses strict money management and disciple with past 4 years of picks in the archives. 

    If you see anyone doing progressive style systems or any sort of systems and if you are tempted to join, don't do it because I guarantee you that you will lose your ass!

     

    Can't agree more m8! Blindly betting on teams is just crazy and always buying 3 points with very high odds! That's just sick! He already has a couple of losses ( look at the Detroit series ) this season!

    Use proper money managment and cap your own picks or listen to the highly experienced guys around here. I learned a lot of these men.

    JM's system will kill you if it's not now it certainly will be later on!

     

    PS: sorry for my bad english but I'm from Belgium ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by loganxman:


    Are you kidding me? Morrison is the biggest scammer on the internet when it comes to sports betting/systems. He never had a streak. Every year he loses a c bet atleast once a month. This guy offers high affiliate commission for anyone who joins his affiliate program and promotes his system...this has gotten him many cheerleaders from poor countries promoting his service. These cheerleaders often pretend to be winning customers and tout his system. You will lose your ass if you follow his system and picks.

    Stick to reputable cappers like "bettingresource" that uses strict money management and disciple with past 4 years of picks in the archives. 

    If you see anyone doing progressive style systems or any sort of systems and if you are tempted to join, don't do it because I guarantee you that you will lose your ass!

     

    Can't agree more m8! Blindly betting on teams is just crazy and always buying 3 points with very high odds! That's just sick! He already has a couple of losses ( look at the Detroit series ) this season!

    Use proper money managment and cap your own picks or listen to the highly experienced guys around here. I learned a lot of these men.

    JM's system will kill you if it's not now it certainly will be later on!

     

    PS: sorry for my bad english but I'm from Belgium ;)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2009 - 6:08 PM ET #11

    Did anyone get his email saying that going forward, take the moneyline on all games where the team is favored by more than 3 points, then asks the question of the century....

    Now that he has made the change to the system he wanted to know whether or not to :
    a)  Keep the record at 26-1 (since that is the record)
    b)  Change the record to 27-0 (to retrofit his new filter)
    c)  Change the record to 26-0 as if the Houston series never happened?

    WTF??    This guy needs help!!!!
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    Did anyone get his email saying that going forward, take the moneyline on all games where the team is favored by more than 3 points, then asks the question of the century....

    Now that he has made the change to the system he wanted to know whether or not to :
    a)  Keep the record at 26-1 (since that is the record)
    b)  Change the record to 27-0 (to retrofit his new filter)
    c)  Change the record to 26-0 as if the Houston series never happened?

    WTF??    This guy needs help!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2009 - 5:41 AM ET #12

    This guys 26-1, 27-0 etc bullshit record is pathetic. Every time he gets a win he counts it as a win, everytime there is a loss he wont count it as a loss...he will count it as a loss only when the series fails. And he cheats even then by not counting all the series loss.

    If he is to count only the series loss as a loss, then he should count 1 win only when the bankroll is doubled. Because you can win 10 games and then if the series fails you lose everything you won plus the bankroll! So each time a bankroll is doubled, it should count as a win. In JM's case he never doubles the bankroll because he ends up losing the bankroll before the series is doubled.

    He also uses heavy favorite lines where the juice is so high, so he will never make profit. I don't recommend any progressive style systems but if you are going to follow this guy, at least follow someone with better progressive style system. For example, check out the guy at "mrmartingale" service....he runs a 6 level progression where the bet amount is fixed for each of the 6 levels (bet 1 = 1 unit, bet 2 = 2.1 unit, bet 3 = 4.41 units, bet 4 = 9.26 units bet 5 =19.45 units, bet 6 = 40.84 units) Basicly you bet 1 unit, if the bet loses, you bet 2.1 units, and if that loses you bet 4.41 units on the third bet and so on....when you win you go back to bet 1. If you hit a 6 game losing streak you just start over from bet 1 instead of going to bet 7! So this avoids losing infinite amount of money. TO run this sytem you need 77 units bankroll. He has the system described in detail in his page (its free, you can just read it there....JM pretty much charges $200 for a free system...it is not even a system that he created because progressive style systems has been there for ever).  MrMartingale picks are better because his picks have average odds of around +140 (2.40)  most of his picks range anywhere from +120 to +250 in odds...and he is actually pretty good in hitting the plays. His system rules suggest that you bet the same amount in each level regardless of the odds...because of this when you win a bet in the later levels, you not only recover all the lossess from the previous bets but you end up making lot more in profit......where as in JM's system the odds or so shitty that you always have to bet very high amount just to recover the loss. MrMartingale has lost 6 in a row 5 times for his series 1 picks (he has been doing it since 2006)...but he has made shit load of profit because he doubles the bankroll more often than losing it. I still dont recommend this progressive system but if I am to do a progressive system i would do mrmartingale over this JM scammer anyday.
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    This guys 26-1, 27-0 etc bullshit record is pathetic. Every time he gets a win he counts it as a win, everytime there is a loss he wont count it as a loss...he will count it as a loss only when the series fails. And he cheats even then by not counting all the series loss.

    If he is to count only the series loss as a loss, then he should count 1 win only when the bankroll is doubled. Because you can win 10 games and then if the series fails you lose everything you won plus the bankroll! So each time a bankroll is doubled, it should count as a win. In JM's case he never doubles the bankroll because he ends up losing the bankroll before the series is doubled.

    He also uses heavy favorite lines where the juice is so high, so he will never make profit. I don't recommend any progressive style systems but if you are going to follow this guy, at least follow someone with better progressive style system. For example, check out the guy at "mrmartingale" service....he runs a 6 level progression where the bet amount is fixed for each of the 6 levels (bet 1 = 1 unit, bet 2 = 2.1 unit, bet 3 = 4.41 units, bet 4 = 9.26 units bet 5 =19.45 units, bet 6 = 40.84 units) Basicly you bet 1 unit, if the bet loses, you bet 2.1 units, and if that loses you bet 4.41 units on the third bet and so on....when you win you go back to bet 1. If you hit a 6 game losing streak you just start over from bet 1 instead of going to bet 7! So this avoids losing infinite amount of money. TO run this sytem you need 77 units bankroll. He has the system described in detail in his page (its free, you can just read it there....JM pretty much charges $200 for a free system...it is not even a system that he created because progressive style systems has been there for ever).  MrMartingale picks are better because his picks have average odds of around +140 (2.40)  most of his picks range anywhere from +120 to +250 in odds...and he is actually pretty good in hitting the plays. His system rules suggest that you bet the same amount in each level regardless of the odds...because of this when you win a bet in the later levels, you not only recover all the lossess from the previous bets but you end up making lot more in profit......where as in JM's system the odds or so shitty that you always have to bet very high amount just to recover the loss. MrMartingale has lost 6 in a row 5 times for his series 1 picks (he has been doing it since 2006)...but he has made shit load of profit because he doubles the bankroll more often than losing it. I still dont recommend this progressive system but if I am to do a progressive system i would do mrmartingale over this JM scammer anyday.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2010 - 1:45 AM ET #13

    Just to redeem Vinko's reputation. I think he was merely cutting and pasting JM's email response to the loss since the OP asked what JM's response would be. Yes, he is a total scumbag but I don't think Vinko was trying to take up his defense or anything. I agree about not blindly playing systems but the JM system and others like it can work with the right money management. I prefer the labby myself and do quite well using some of the JM system picks. I bailed on Houston after the A bet though as I saw that one coming.
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    Just to redeem Vinko's reputation. I think he was merely cutting and pasting JM's email response to the loss since the OP asked what JM's response would be. Yes, he is a total scumbag but I don't think Vinko was trying to take up his defense or anything. I agree about not blindly playing systems but the JM system and others like it can work with the right money management. I prefer the labby myself and do quite well using some of the JM system picks. I bailed on Houston after the A bet though as I saw that one coming.
     
     
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