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    How long until the online books stop paying?

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    Airmail26
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 12:30 PM ET #1

    How much do you figure a person can win from an online book before they stop paying?

    I am betting next to nothing and if the next 12 months go like December they will have paid me between $5-$6K....

    If I left half of that in there and continued using the same money management tools next year we would be looking at between $25-30K in the 2010-2011 seasons.

    I know that people bet TONS more money than I do but am wondering if they would shut down an account after having to pay out that much.  Or if they would even pay to begin with.

    Any thoughts?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    How much do you figure a person can win from an online book before they stop paying?

    I am betting next to nothing and if the next 12 months go like December they will have paid me between $5-$6K....

    If I left half of that in there and continued using the same money management tools next year we would be looking at between $25-30K in the 2010-2011 seasons.

    I know that people bet TONS more money than I do but am wondering if they would shut down an account after having to pay out that much.  Or if they would even pay to begin with.

    Any thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 2:43 PM ET #2

    reputable books will pay out no matter how large or small like betjamacia, the greek. and matchbook.   then there are books that arn't so reputable and they will take american money but they don't like paying out.  and they don't have good customer service.
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    reputable books will pay out no matter how large or small like betjamacia, the greek. and matchbook.   then there are books that arn't so reputable and they will take american money but they don't like paying out.  and they don't have good customer service.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:56 PM ET #3

    JV does have a point
    Depends on where your at
    Maybe they might limit your wager limits or straight up ask you to leave politely
    Worst case scenario is  @#$&ing  with you when its time to withdraw
    Who do you complain to then?
    5 - 6 K is ok for now
    But yeah add a zero onto them down the road and it could get fishy
    My suggestion get to a certain amount then withdraw some only to deposit into another book
    Then you can have say 4 - 6 accounts with top books in the double digits
    Now your talking
    And it get's even better down the line
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    JV does have a point
    Depends on where your at
    Maybe they might limit your wager limits or straight up ask you to leave politely
    Worst case scenario is  @#$&ing  with you when its time to withdraw
    Who do you complain to then?
    5 - 6 K is ok for now
    But yeah add a zero onto them down the road and it could get fishy
    My suggestion get to a certain amount then withdraw some only to deposit into another book
    Then you can have say 4 - 6 accounts with top books in the double digits
    Now your talking
    And it get's even better down the line
    How far down the rabbits hole you wanna go?   
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 10:02 PM ET #4

    I also found that if you are big in chase systems.....one thing i would strongly consider is to have more than one book.

    Lots of good shit info on this site.......right on!

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    I also found that if you are big in chase systems.....one thing i would strongly consider is to have more than one book.

    Lots of good shit info on this site.......right on!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #5

    I wish I had your problem.  I think Montana has a good sugestion about withdrawing small amounts. If this was done on a regular basis you would at least have a heads up that a book isn't going to pay you.

    Does anyone know how a book tracks their winning clients? Would monthly withdrawals set off flags on your account? 

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    I wish I had your problem.  I think Montana has a good sugestion about withdrawing small amounts. If this was done on a regular basis you would at least have a heads up that a book isn't going to pay you.

    Does anyone know how a book tracks their winning clients? Would monthly withdrawals set off flags on your account? 

     
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    what are you gonna do when they dont honor your winners on any given good day you might have. they will tell you that they do not take wagers from professional players, so they pay you the compliment and decide not to pay you. I saw it on a web site years ago, it's just their little disclaimer to justify not paying you. offshore can stick you anytime they want. but you morons just keep asking for it. look how many people are complaining about just about every casino in here not paying, slow pay, no customer service. You are all targets.
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    what are you gonna do when they dont honor your winners on any given good day you might have. they will tell you that they do not take wagers from professional players, so they pay you the compliment and decide not to pay you. I saw it on a web site years ago, it's just their little disclaimer to justify not paying you. offshore can stick you anytime they want. but you morons just keep asking for it. look how many people are complaining about just about every casino in here not paying, slow pay, no customer service. You are all targets.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2010 - 4:03 AM ET #7

    then why not give up playing sports gambling if they are not going to pay? i'm pretty they will pay for their dues but would limit your account if you keep winning consistently. the best is to spread your money around and keep it small.
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    then why not give up playing sports gambling if they are not going to pay? i'm pretty they will pay for their dues but would limit your account if you keep winning consistently. the best is to spread your money around and keep it small.
     
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    Dufresne.......... -
    What's up yo....... - haven't seen ya in a while
    About your question - I don't know offhand. Whether monthly or weekly as long as your losing money here and there while slowly building your BR then I personally wouldn't think there would be no problems. If one were to win too much then I suppose things could be different

    Rudie.........
    To combat that one would do research about the books before they were to deposit several thousand in at least.
    I would
    There are plenty of top quality books out there where this wouldn't be a problem. Yes....... on the flip side there are a whole lot more books that are ripoffs

    kp4life82...........
    Summed it up. Keep a low profile. If one is to a baller and have a 5 or 6 digit BR then its keen to spread it out into several different top notch books. Next level is to do the same thing with runners in Vegas at the different casinos. Working with those who are trusted only
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    Dufresne.......... -
    What's up yo....... - haven't seen ya in a while
    About your question - I don't know offhand. Whether monthly or weekly as long as your losing money here and there while slowly building your BR then I personally wouldn't think there would be no problems. If one were to win too much then I suppose things could be different

    Rudie.........
    To combat that one would do research about the books before they were to deposit several thousand in at least.
    I would
    There are plenty of top quality books out there where this wouldn't be a problem. Yes....... on the flip side there are a whole lot more books that are ripoffs

    kp4life82...........
    Summed it up. Keep a low profile. If one is to a baller and have a 5 or 6 digit BR then its keen to spread it out into several different top notch books. Next level is to do the same thing with runners in Vegas at the different casinos. Working with those who are trusted only
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    Dufresne.......... -
    What's up yo....... - haven't seen ya in a while
    About your question - I don't know offhand. Whether monthly or weekly as long as your losing money here and there while slowly building your BR then I personally wouldn't think there would be no problems. If one were to win too much then I suppose things could be different

    Rudie.........
    To combat that one would do research about the books before they were to deposit several thousand in at least.
    I would
    There are plenty of top quality books out there where this wouldn't be a problem. Yes....... on the flip side there are a whole lot more books that are ripoffs

    kp4life82...........
    Summed it up. Keep a low profile. If one is to a baller and have a 5 or 6 digit BR then its keen to spread it out into several different top notch books. Next level is to do the same thing with runners in Vegas at the different casinos. Working with those who are trusted only

    Montana - I need to learn more about the runners in Vegas.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    Dufresne.......... -
    What's up yo....... - haven't seen ya in a while
    About your question - I don't know offhand. Whether monthly or weekly as long as your losing money here and there while slowly building your BR then I personally wouldn't think there would be no problems. If one were to win too much then I suppose things could be different

    Rudie.........
    To combat that one would do research about the books before they were to deposit several thousand in at least.
    I would
    There are plenty of top quality books out there where this wouldn't be a problem. Yes....... on the flip side there are a whole lot more books that are ripoffs

    kp4life82...........
    Summed it up. Keep a low profile. If one is to a baller and have a 5 or 6 digit BR then its keen to spread it out into several different top notch books. Next level is to do the same thing with runners in Vegas at the different casinos. Working with those who are trusted only

    Montana - I need to learn more about the runners in Vegas.....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2010 - 7:05 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Airmail26:

    Montana - I need to learn more about the runners in Vegas.....





    Fairly quite simple

    Ingredients:
       trust
       teamwork

    Work with people you can trust. Have them be placed in Vegas. However, maybe even living there, up to you. Spread your bankroll out to them evenly. When your ready just put the call in to them to place the bets at the respective casinos and the rest is automatic. Up to you how you decide to manage your BR from there

    I know of a guy in Texas who travels a lot too just does this with one dude out in Vegas. He get's a slice of the winnings for his services. Main reason this guy does this is because on some ML's he bets, no offshore carry's lines that steep. Only Vegas. No complaints from him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airmail26:

    Montana - I need to learn more about the runners in Vegas.....





    Fairly quite simple

    Ingredients:
       trust
       teamwork

    Work with people you can trust. Have them be placed in Vegas. However, maybe even living there, up to you. Spread your bankroll out to them evenly. When your ready just put the call in to them to place the bets at the respective casinos and the rest is automatic. Up to you how you decide to manage your BR from there

    I know of a guy in Texas who travels a lot too just does this with one dude out in Vegas. He get's a slice of the winnings for his services. Main reason this guy does this is because on some ML's he bets, no offshore carry's lines that steep. Only Vegas. No complaints from him

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:





    Fairly quite simple

    Ingredients:
       trust
       teamwork

    Work with people you can trust. Have them be placed in Vegas. However, maybe even living there, up to you. Spread your bankroll out to them evenly. When your ready just put the call in to them to place the bets at the respective casinos and the rest is automatic. Up to you how you decide to manage your BR from there

    I know of a guy in Texas who travels a lot too just does this with one dude out in Vegas. He get's a slice of the winnings for his services. Main reason this guy does this is because on some ML's he bets, no offshore carry's lines that steep. Only Vegas. No complaints from him

    ...................

    That's good info Max.  I have actually just taken on 4 "investors"...basically they gave me a set amount of money...I place the bets for them online using the system I have come up with.  I then pay them out their winnings at the end of each month and take 15% of the winnings for my time and effort to keep the system updated.

    I need to find a way to expand that.  It's been kind of fun for the first month at least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:





    Fairly quite simple

    Ingredients:
       trust
       teamwork

    Work with people you can trust. Have them be placed in Vegas. However, maybe even living there, up to you. Spread your bankroll out to them evenly. When your ready just put the call in to them to place the bets at the respective casinos and the rest is automatic. Up to you how you decide to manage your BR from there

    I know of a guy in Texas who travels a lot too just does this with one dude out in Vegas. He get's a slice of the winnings for his services. Main reason this guy does this is because on some ML's he bets, no offshore carry's lines that steep. Only Vegas. No complaints from him

    ...................

    That's good info Max.  I have actually just taken on 4 "investors"...basically they gave me a set amount of money...I place the bets for them online using the system I have come up with.  I then pay them out their winnings at the end of each month and take 15% of the winnings for my time and effort to keep the system updated.

    I need to find a way to expand that.  It's been kind of fun for the first month at least...

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airmail26:

    That's good info Max.  I have actually just taken on 4 "investors"...basically they gave me a set amount of money...I place the bets for them online using the system I have come up with.  I then pay them out their winnings at the end of each month and take 15% of the winnings for my time and effort to keep the system updated.

    I need to find a way to expand that.  It's been kind of fun for the first month at least...




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    Love the ingenuity bro.........
    That's somewhat a goal of mine too down the road kinda like Robinhood
    Steal from the books and give to the......... well not the poor but those who want some interest off their investments
    Right up my alley. Like a hedge fund manager on wall st.
    Best part ??????????
    Tax free bitches !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It doesn't matter the vehicle of investment whether its stocks, real estate, forex, commodities, sports betting, whatever, as long as you are building that portfolio my man, you're doing society a service

    Your on the right track and it seems like you got your poop in order
    To expand on that niche I would say just to lay out like a business plan or so as if  you were pitch to future clients

    *Include past performance good and bad to show the range of profitability
    *Returns % wise whether monthly, quarterly, and or annually
    *Full transparency on a clients account when requested or on some recurring schedule
    *Show min to max projections for the upcoming month or sport season based off last year's results in a way
    *Details, details, details.......... Like charts, graphs, whatever works

    I could go on and on but I hope you catch my drift
    Take care of your business and your business will take care of you
    The systems you're working with if successful enough will sell themselves and all you got to do is put the rubber to the road and kick it.................

    We spend all our lives working for money to
    Now its time to have money working for us

    A wise man once said............
    "Compound interest is the most powerful thing in the universe"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airmail26:

    That's good info Max.  I have actually just taken on 4 "investors"...basically they gave me a set amount of money...I place the bets for them online using the system I have come up with.  I then pay them out their winnings at the end of each month and take 15% of the winnings for my time and effort to keep the system updated.

    I need to find a way to expand that.  It's been kind of fun for the first month at least...




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    Love the ingenuity bro.........
    That's somewhat a goal of mine too down the road kinda like Robinhood
    Steal from the books and give to the......... well not the poor but those who want some interest off their investments
    Right up my alley. Like a hedge fund manager on wall st.
    Best part ??????????
    Tax free bitches !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It doesn't matter the vehicle of investment whether its stocks, real estate, forex, commodities, sports betting, whatever, as long as you are building that portfolio my man, you're doing society a service

    Your on the right track and it seems like you got your poop in order
    To expand on that niche I would say just to lay out like a business plan or so as if  you were pitch to future clients

    *Include past performance good and bad to show the range of profitability
    *Returns % wise whether monthly, quarterly, and or annually
    *Full transparency on a clients account when requested or on some recurring schedule
    *Show min to max projections for the upcoming month or sport season based off last year's results in a way
    *Details, details, details.......... Like charts, graphs, whatever works

    I could go on and on but I hope you catch my drift
    Take care of your business and your business will take care of you
    The systems you're working with if successful enough will sell themselves and all you got to do is put the rubber to the road and kick it.................

    We spend all our lives working for money to
    Now its time to have money working for us

    A wise man once said............
    "Compound interest is the most powerful thing in the universe"

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