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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 7:43 PM ET #1

    Hey everyone...been following covers for a little over a year now...been betting through a local book for about 4 years...the book manipulates lines fairly heavily so i decided this year to try an online sportsbook.  My question is about building a bankroll.  Would anyone find it a better idea to bet games on moneyline, following the top teams in each sport...or is there more of a payout betting based on the points.  The book i was going through did not offer moneylines, just spreads therefore I don't have much experience with moneylines and the advantages/disadvantages.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for any help and lets make some cash.
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    Hey everyone...been following covers for a little over a year now...been betting through a local book for about 4 years...the book manipulates lines fairly heavily so i decided this year to try an online sportsbook.  My question is about building a bankroll.  Would anyone find it a better idea to bet games on moneyline, following the top teams in each sport...or is there more of a payout betting based on the points.  The book i was going through did not offer moneylines, just spreads therefore I don't have much experience with moneylines and the advantages/disadvantages.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for any help and lets make some cash.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 8:32 PM ET #2

    Moneylines are good for underdogs only in my opinion.  Laying the extra juice will get you poor.  Just play the points. 
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    Moneylines are good for underdogs only in my opinion.  Laying the extra juice will get you poor.  Just play the points. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 8:39 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    .the book manipulates lines fairly heavily

     

     

     

    How bad?  Give me an example as I am always curious, thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    .the book manipulates lines fairly heavily

     

     

     

    How bad?  Give me an example as I am always curious, thx

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 8:45 PM ET #4

    For example on this past weekends USC/Oregon game, I saw the game at +17 for Oregon on the online book..and I got 14 through my local, not that it mattered because it was a loss either way...but I can remember last season seeing an over/under of 42 on a game which the local raised to 49.5, don't remember which game...but this is a common occurance through the local book.
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    For example on this past weekends USC/Oregon game, I saw the game at +17 for Oregon on the online book..and I got 14 through my local, not that it mattered because it was a loss either way...but I can remember last season seeing an over/under of 42 on a game which the local raised to 49.5, don't remember which game...but this is a common occurance through the local book.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 9:01 PM ET #5

    I love moneylines espically college hoops, as long as you know who is going to win.  When you bet the spread your 50/50 and a last minute shot can mess you up...
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    I love moneylines espically college hoops, as long as you know who is going to win.  When you bet the spread your 50/50 and a last minute shot can mess you up...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 11:28 PM ET #6

    Hard to make money either way. A local bookie will manipulate the line if he can. If you always bet the giants or jets, he will add points when a favorite and cut points when a dog. He does it for a living and will work you if he can.
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    Hard to make money either way. A local bookie will manipulate the line if he can. If you always bet the giants or jets, he will add points when a favorite and cut points when a dog. He does it for a living and will work you if he can.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2008 - 11:45 PM ET #7

    If he raises a line like crazy, take advantage of it and go under.
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    If he raises a line like crazy, take advantage of it and go under.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    For example on this past weekends USC/Oregon game, I saw the game at +17 for Oregon on the online book..and I got 14 through my local, not that it mattered because it was a loss either way...but I can remember last season seeing an over/under of 42 on a game which the local raised to 49.5, don't remember which game...but this is a common occurance through the local book.

     

    wow thats wild.

     

    Hey LIVEFASTDIERICH click on my avatar and go to my "space" and drop me an email sometime. Id like to ask you a few questions about those lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    For example on this past weekends USC/Oregon game, I saw the game at +17 for Oregon on the online book..and I got 14 through my local, not that it mattered because it was a loss either way...but I can remember last season seeing an over/under of 42 on a game which the local raised to 49.5, don't remember which game...but this is a common occurance through the local book.

     

    wow thats wild.

     

    Hey LIVEFASTDIERICH click on my avatar and go to my "space" and drop me an email sometime. Id like to ask you a few questions about those lines

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 6:20 PM ET #9

    Thanks for all the input everyone...SRTZEE I had the same reasoning...at least to build a bankroll go with moneylines on anything you think is a sure bet because of the backdoor cover you can get nailed with on a points bet....Chance im about to send an email over shortly
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    Thanks for all the input everyone...SRTZEE I had the same reasoning...at least to build a bankroll go with moneylines on anything you think is a sure bet because of the backdoor cover you can get nailed with on a points bet....Chance im about to send an email over shortly
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    Chance im about to send an email over shortly

     

     

    send it buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    Chance im about to send an email over shortly

     

     

    send it buddy

     
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    Online sportbooks are usually better than local bookies because of better lines offered.  In the long run, small price advantages might be the difference between profit or loss. 
     
    Your choice of moneyline or pointspread.  Profit depends on combination of probability and payout.  Low payout needs high probability but high payout allows for lower probability.
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    Online sportbooks are usually better than local bookies because of better lines offered.  In the long run, small price advantages might be the difference between profit or loss. 
     
    Your choice of moneyline or pointspread.  Profit depends on combination of probability and payout.  Low payout needs high probability but high payout allows for lower probability.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    Thanks for all the input everyone...SRTZEE I had the same reasoning...at least to build a bankroll go with moneylines on anything you think is a sure bet because of the backdoor cover you can get nailed with on a points bet....Chance im about to send an email over shortly

     

    left u a message on your space

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFastDieRich:

    Thanks for all the input everyone...SRTZEE I had the same reasoning...at least to build a bankroll go with moneylines on anything you think is a sure bet because of the backdoor cover you can get nailed with on a points bet....Chance im about to send an email over shortly

     

    left u a message on your space

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Online sportbooks are usually better than local bookies because of better lines offered.  In the long run, small price advantages might be the difference between profit or loss. 
     
    Your choice of moneyline or pointspread.  Profit depends on combination of probability and payout.  Low payout needs high probability but high payout allows for lower probability.

     

    Very true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Online sportbooks are usually better than local bookies because of better lines offered.  In the long run, small price advantages might be the difference between profit or loss. 
     
    Your choice of moneyline or pointspread.  Profit depends on combination of probability and payout.  Low payout needs high probability but high payout allows for lower probability.

     

    Very true...

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