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    Boxing and Middling Teasers

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:20 AM ET #1

    I'm looking at "boxing" and therefore "middling" four teaser bets on a single game.

    The example below is a 7 pt teaser on the Cowboys/Raiders game.  Spread is -13.5 and the Total is 40.5

    1.  Cowboys -6.5 Over 33.5
    2.  Cowboys -6.5 Under 47.5
    3.  Raiders +20.5 Over 33.5
    4.  Raiders +20.5 Under 47.5

    Bet 1.3 units per wager to win 1 unit.  It is possible to win 1, 2, or 4 wagers.

    Scenarios

    1.  Win 1 of 4 wagers 2.3 - 3.9 = -1.6 units loss
    2.  Win 2 of 4 wagers 4.6 - 2.6 = 2 units gain
    4.  Win 4 of 4 wagers = 4 units gain

    Thoughts?


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I'm looking at "boxing" and therefore "middling" four teaser bets on a single game.

    The example below is a 7 pt teaser on the Cowboys/Raiders game.  Spread is -13.5 and the Total is 40.5

    1.  Cowboys -6.5 Over 33.5
    2.  Cowboys -6.5 Under 47.5
    3.  Raiders +20.5 Over 33.5
    4.  Raiders +20.5 Under 47.5

    Bet 1.3 units per wager to win 1 unit.  It is possible to win 1, 2, or 4 wagers.

    Scenarios

    1.  Win 1 of 4 wagers 2.3 - 3.9 = -1.6 units loss
    2.  Win 2 of 4 wagers 4.6 - 2.6 = 2 units gain
    4.  Win 4 of 4 wagers = 4 units gain

    Thoughts?


     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:43 AM ET #2

    I do that sometimes, with decent success on 10pt Teasers...

    I did that on the Balt/Clev game with a 10pt teaser... 2 sides and the under...

    I would probably do 10pt with 2 sides/1 total or 14pt with 2games both sides if i were you... 4 on one game is a little tougher

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    I do that sometimes, with decent success on 10pt Teasers...

    I did that on the Balt/Clev game with a 10pt teaser... 2 sides and the under...

    I would probably do 10pt with 2 sides/1 total or 14pt with 2games both sides if i were you... 4 on one game is a little tougher

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:44 AM ET #3

    14pt i ment 13pt .. obviously.. lol

    GMSI

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    14pt i ment 13pt .. obviously.. lol

    GMSI

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:49 AM ET #4

    My book won't allow 2 selection - 10 or 13 point teasers.  What book do you use?
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    My book won't allow 2 selection - 10 or 13 point teasers.  What book do you use?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 3:04 AM ET #5

    if just 1 side or total completely blows you lose money, the juice. 3 out of 4 single selections usually win and  1 out of 4 selections lose. thats all the book needs to make money
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    if just 1 side or total completely blows you lose money, the juice. 3 out of 4 single selections usually win and  1 out of 4 selections lose. thats all the book needs to make money
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 10:12 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird27:

    I'm looking at "boxing" and therefore "middling" four teaser bets on a single game.

    The example below is a 7 pt teaser on the Cowboys/Raiders game.  Spread is -13.5 and the Total is 40.5

    1.  Cowboys -6.5 Over 33.5
    2.  Cowboys -6.5 Under 47.5
    3.  Raiders +20.5 Over 33.5
    4.  Raiders +20.5 Under 47.5

    Bet 1.3 units per wager to win 1 unit.  It is possible to win 1, 2, or 4 wagers.

    Scenarios

    1.  Win 1 of 4 wagers 2.3 - 3.9 = -1.6 units loss
    2.  Win 2 of 4 wagers 4.6 - 2.6 = 2 units gain
    4.  Win 4 of 4 wagers = 4 units gain

    Thoughts?




    How do you come up with those numbers? You say that you bet 1.3 units to win 1 unit. So yes winning 4 wagers would return 4 units, but winning 1 wager would be (1 - 3.9) = -2.9 not -1.6. Also winning 2 of 4 wouldn't be a 2 unit gain, it would be -.6 units (2-2.6)

    Be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebird27:

    I'm looking at "boxing" and therefore "middling" four teaser bets on a single game.

    The example below is a 7 pt teaser on the Cowboys/Raiders game.  Spread is -13.5 and the Total is 40.5

    1.  Cowboys -6.5 Over 33.5
    2.  Cowboys -6.5 Under 47.5
    3.  Raiders +20.5 Over 33.5
    4.  Raiders +20.5 Under 47.5

    Bet 1.3 units per wager to win 1 unit.  It is possible to win 1, 2, or 4 wagers.

    Scenarios

    1.  Win 1 of 4 wagers 2.3 - 3.9 = -1.6 units loss
    2.  Win 2 of 4 wagers 4.6 - 2.6 = 2 units gain
    4.  Win 4 of 4 wagers = 4 units gain

    Thoughts?




    How do you come up with those numbers? You say that you bet 1.3 units to win 1 unit. So yes winning 4 wagers would return 4 units, but winning 1 wager would be (1 - 3.9) = -2.9 not -1.6. Also winning 2 of 4 wouldn't be a 2 unit gain, it would be -.6 units (2-2.6)

    Be careful.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 12:35 AM ET #7

    Ok nevermind thanks for the input.
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    Ok nevermind thanks for the input.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 12:51 AM ET #8

    Here's a better teaser system ive been using and its been working out pretty well.  I'll make up teams and lines for the example:  Lets say these are the real lines.

     

    Pitts -7 over Cincy  1pm EST

    Dallas -7 over GB    4pm EST

    ** Start times are really important for this**

    7 points 2 team teaser and you risk say $130 to win $100.

    Wager #1:  Pitts (pk) & Dallas (pk) Wager $130 to win $100

    Wager #2:  Cincy +14 & GB +14. Wager $130 to win $100

    You watch the first game and you have 3 senarios.#1. Say the Steelers win 20-0. #2:  Steelers win 13-3.  #3 Cincy win 3-0.

    IF Senario #1 happens then you wager on DALLAS -7 for the late game.  You have basically lost Wager #2 cuz Cincy +14 is a loss so you are down $130. BUT..........  Wager #1 is pending overall you only drop $30.

    IF Senario #2 happens (Steelers win 13-3) you have 2 parlays still alive and play the odds that you will hit at least 1 possibly even 2, so NO action on the late game.

    IF Senario #3 happens (Cincy wins 3-0) then you wager on GB +7 for the late game cuz you've already lost the first parlay you are down $130, you could hit the 2nd parlay and only be down $30, plus............  You have the GB +7 pending.

    Not sure if im wording it properly, but you have the potential to hit 2 teasers.  At worse you might drop $30, but you can make up for that with a late game single wager, on the "real line"

     

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    Here's a better teaser system ive been using and its been working out pretty well.  I'll make up teams and lines for the example:  Lets say these are the real lines.

     

    Pitts -7 over Cincy  1pm EST

    Dallas -7 over GB    4pm EST

    ** Start times are really important for this**

    7 points 2 team teaser and you risk say $130 to win $100.

    Wager #1:  Pitts (pk) & Dallas (pk) Wager $130 to win $100

    Wager #2:  Cincy +14 & GB +14. Wager $130 to win $100

    You watch the first game and you have 3 senarios.#1. Say the Steelers win 20-0. #2:  Steelers win 13-3.  #3 Cincy win 3-0.

    IF Senario #1 happens then you wager on DALLAS -7 for the late game.  You have basically lost Wager #2 cuz Cincy +14 is a loss so you are down $130. BUT..........  Wager #1 is pending overall you only drop $30.

    IF Senario #2 happens (Steelers win 13-3) you have 2 parlays still alive and play the odds that you will hit at least 1 possibly even 2, so NO action on the late game.

    IF Senario #3 happens (Cincy wins 3-0) then you wager on GB +7 for the late game cuz you've already lost the first parlay you are down $130, you could hit the 2nd parlay and only be down $30, plus............  You have the GB +7 pending.

    Not sure if im wording it properly, but you have the potential to hit 2 teasers.  At worse you might drop $30, but you can make up for that with a late game single wager, on the "real line"

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #9

    Sorry it should actually read like this.

    You watch the first game and you have 3 senarios.#1. Say the Steelers win 20-0. #2:  Steelers win 13-3.  #3 Cincy win 3-0.

    IF Senario #1 happens then you wager on GB +7 for the late game.  You have basically lost Wager #2 cuz Cincy +14 is a loss so you are down $130. BUT..........  Wager #1 is pending overall you only drop $30.

    IF Senario #2 happens (Steelers win 13-3) you have 2 parlays still alive and play the odds that you will hit at least 1 possibly even 2, so NO action on the late game.

    IF Senario #3 happens (Cincy wins 3-0) then you wager on GB +7 for the late game cuz you've already lost the first parlay you are down $130, you could hit the 2nd parlay and only be down $30, plus............  You have the DALLAS -7 pending.

    Not sure if im wording it properly, but you have the potential to hit 2 teasers.  At worse you might drop $30, but you can make up for that with a late game single wager, on the "real line"

     

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    Sorry it should actually read like this.

    You watch the first game and you have 3 senarios.#1. Say the Steelers win 20-0. #2:  Steelers win 13-3.  #3 Cincy win 3-0.

    IF Senario #1 happens then you wager on GB +7 for the late game.  You have basically lost Wager #2 cuz Cincy +14 is a loss so you are down $130. BUT..........  Wager #1 is pending overall you only drop $30.

    IF Senario #2 happens (Steelers win 13-3) you have 2 parlays still alive and play the odds that you will hit at least 1 possibly even 2, so NO action on the late game.

    IF Senario #3 happens (Cincy wins 3-0) then you wager on GB +7 for the late game cuz you've already lost the first parlay you are down $130, you could hit the 2nd parlay and only be down $30, plus............  You have the DALLAS -7 pending.

    Not sure if im wording it properly, but you have the potential to hit 2 teasers.  At worse you might drop $30, but you can make up for that with a late game single wager, on the "real line"

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 1:29 AM ET #10

    Thanks, I'll see if I spot any plays that are a good fit.
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    Thanks, I'll see if I spot any plays that are a good fit.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2009 - 12:45 AM ET #11

    This weekend in College Football is a good time to try this system.  It would look like this, money wagered can be varied.

    3:30pm EST:  USC -7 over Arizona

    8pm EST:  U. Conn -7 over S. Florida:

    Wagers would look like this.............

    Book #1:   2 Team 7 point Teaser.

    USC (pk) & U. Conn (pk): Risking $130 to win $100

    Book #2: 2 team 7 point teaser.

    Arizona +14 & S. Florida +14: Risking $130 to win $100

    Then you sit around and watch the USC game.  3 Things could happen. #1 USC could win by more than 14 points, say 21-0!  In that case you know you lost the parlay at Book #2 so you are down $130, BUT...............  You're parlay at Book #1 is still alive, so you wager $30 on S. Florida at +7 (real line) right after USC wins 21-0.  Here's what can happen.  If U. Conn wins between 1 -6 points you win BOTH wagers (Book #1 parly & S. Florida +7).  If U.Conn wins by more than 7, then you lose your S. Florida wager, you'd be down $60 on the day.

    Back to the original USC game.  This time say they win within 7 points (21-17).  Now BOTH parlays are still alive, and you will win 1 of them, perhaps both, at worse you drop $30.

    Back to the original USC game.  This time say Arizona wins outright.  You've lost the Book #1 parlay, but you Book #2 parlay is still alive. So you wager $30 on U. Conn -7 (real line) right after Arizona upsets USC. Here's what can happen. If U.Conn wins between 8-13 points points you win BOTH parlays. (Book #2 parlay & U. Conn -7).  If U.Conn win by less than 7 points, you lost the U.Conn -7 ($30), but win the Parlay at Book #2.  Total loss of $60.

    A lot of times what happens is BOTH parlays remain alive.  You have a 14 point buffer to work with in game one, and that really helps.  Its not a bullet proof system my any means, but it is productive and does well.

     

     

     

     

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    This weekend in College Football is a good time to try this system.  It would look like this, money wagered can be varied.

    3:30pm EST:  USC -7 over Arizona

    8pm EST:  U. Conn -7 over S. Florida:

    Wagers would look like this.............

    Book #1:   2 Team 7 point Teaser.

    USC (pk) & U. Conn (pk): Risking $130 to win $100

    Book #2: 2 team 7 point teaser.

    Arizona +14 & S. Florida +14: Risking $130 to win $100

    Then you sit around and watch the USC game.  3 Things could happen. #1 USC could win by more than 14 points, say 21-0!  In that case you know you lost the parlay at Book #2 so you are down $130, BUT...............  You're parlay at Book #1 is still alive, so you wager $30 on S. Florida at +7 (real line) right after USC wins 21-0.  Here's what can happen.  If U. Conn wins between 1 -6 points you win BOTH wagers (Book #1 parly & S. Florida +7).  If U.Conn wins by more than 7, then you lose your S. Florida wager, you'd be down $60 on the day.

    Back to the original USC game.  This time say they win within 7 points (21-17).  Now BOTH parlays are still alive, and you will win 1 of them, perhaps both, at worse you drop $30.

    Back to the original USC game.  This time say Arizona wins outright.  You've lost the Book #1 parlay, but you Book #2 parlay is still alive. So you wager $30 on U. Conn -7 (real line) right after Arizona upsets USC. Here's what can happen. If U.Conn wins between 8-13 points points you win BOTH parlays. (Book #2 parlay & U. Conn -7).  If U.Conn win by less than 7 points, you lost the U.Conn -7 ($30), but win the Parlay at Book #2.  Total loss of $60.

    A lot of times what happens is BOTH parlays remain alive.  You have a 14 point buffer to work with in game one, and that really helps.  Its not a bullet proof system my any means, but it is productive and does well.

     

     

     

     

     
     
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    Dude, look at each wager 1 at a time. Do you understand the house had the edge on both bets. So just because you mix and match teasers with parlays doesnt give you any kind of edge. Anyone can sit back and say " look what happens if this and this happen" You system slowly grinds the juice out of you. You may have hit a few recently but thats coincidental. You will win some and lose some, juice gets you all the time. Thats just the reality of it all.
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    Dude, look at each wager 1 at a time. Do you understand the house had the edge on both bets. So just because you mix and match teasers with parlays doesnt give you any kind of edge. Anyone can sit back and say " look what happens if this and this happen" You system slowly grinds the juice out of you. You may have hit a few recently but thats coincidental. You will win some and lose some, juice gets you all the time. Thats just the reality of it all.
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