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    Best Handicappers Ever?!

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 3:29 PM ET #1

    I’m new to all of this sports betting stuff. I’m looking for the very best handicapper available. I’ve looked around and checked into a lot of web sights.  A lot of the handicappers on this sight are very well known and some respected. However I want the very best what ever the cost.  Procappers.com looks reputable but not independently verified and I can’t find any information about the major handicappers. I don’t want to get burned again from scamcappers like winsportsnow.com (bait & switch), sportsinvestorsnetwork.com (lied about record), nickdavispicks.com (pathetic) or any of those other boiler room, high presser sales losers out there. I joined this sight hoping all of you real people out there would help me get rich LOL. Thanks for all your replies and I’ll talk to you soon!

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    I’m new to all of this sports betting stuff. I’m looking for the very best handicapper available. I’ve looked around and checked into a lot of web sights.  A lot of the handicappers on this sight are very well known and some respected. However I want the very best what ever the cost.  Procappers.com looks reputable but not independently verified and I can’t find any information about the major handicappers. I don’t want to get burned again from scamcappers like winsportsnow.com (bait & switch), sportsinvestorsnetwork.com (lied about record), nickdavispicks.com (pathetic) or any of those other boiler room, high presser sales losers out there. I joined this sight hoping all of you real people out there would help me get rich LOL. Thanks for all your replies and I’ll talk to you soon!

     
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    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part
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    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 8:10 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by collectNOW:

    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part

    Who is Rush I did not see thta name anywhere in the paid handicapping section?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by collectNOW:

    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part

    Who is Rush I did not see thta name anywhere in the paid handicapping section?

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 8:12 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by collectNOW:

    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part

     

    Thanks for the heads up bro! I feel you with the money management system. I’ve gone 6-2 on a day and lost. Don’t laugh but when you say tailing do you mean that someone is reposting professional handicappers picks? I know, I know rookies. You don’t have to rub it in. Just don’t haze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collectNOW:

    Most of the good cappers run hot and cold,so as far as you getting rich...it's more about money management.I tail  others 90% of the time,and can guarantee that i have won 70% of the picks and i normally bet 100 bucks,but when i get the big dick and bet 250 or 500...i lose 90% of the time.Money management my friend.Look for guys who have been around for at least 3 years or are a veteran or above.See who they pick or are tailing,because if they weren't winning,they wouldn't be on here.Rush is a good example.No flair,never gets bashed or put in the box,never argues with anyone,and doesn't lie about his record or make a pick after the game has started,then if it wins, counts it on his record.He might only hit 55% of his plays,but he is steady and lists his picks in plenty of time,and also caps most every sport.Target is another one...sparky,estes,weeble....just look for drama free threads and guys who seem like stand up people.You will never win all the time,so forget about that part

     

    Thanks for the heads up bro! I feel you with the money management system. I’ve gone 6-2 on a day and lost. Don’t laugh but when you say tailing do you mean that someone is reposting professional handicappers picks? I know, I know rookies. You don’t have to rub it in. Just don’t haze me.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 8:49 PM ET #5

    Look up Rush on Google under GOP.

    You don't need to pay someone to Cap for you.  Stats show time and time again that even the greatest handicappers in the world, like the ones who post these forums (like me, like you) will always level out to around a 52/53% winning percentage, AT BEST.  University's have done studies on this time and again. I respect the fact the cappers on this website who people pay for. Big Al, Sean Murphy etc.... BUT the fact remains, and it has been shown time and time again, if YOU  LOOK AT THE STATS OF A PARTICULAR GAME, YOU WILL PICK JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS ANY EXPERT OUT THERE.  You, or anyone else out there doesn't have to believe me but the fact remains, nobody picks em very good. Hot streaks, YES. 

    Think about it. Does "anyone" really know for certain who will win the game? NO! If Seattle wins tonight against NYY, who in their right mind would say the Mariners would go into Yankee stadium and whip their ass and possibly sweep them.  NOT EVEN THE BEST CAPPERS WOULD SAY THAT!

    My advice, do your own research, follow forums and learn some systems.  BTW, Sean Murphy, an expert handicapper here on covers even wrote in an article a few months back "To win at betting, one needs a system."  He didn't say they needed a handicapper. 

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    Look up Rush on Google under GOP.

    You don't need to pay someone to Cap for you.  Stats show time and time again that even the greatest handicappers in the world, like the ones who post these forums (like me, like you) will always level out to around a 52/53% winning percentage, AT BEST.  University's have done studies on this time and again. I respect the fact the cappers on this website who people pay for. Big Al, Sean Murphy etc.... BUT the fact remains, and it has been shown time and time again, if YOU  LOOK AT THE STATS OF A PARTICULAR GAME, YOU WILL PICK JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS ANY EXPERT OUT THERE.  You, or anyone else out there doesn't have to believe me but the fact remains, nobody picks em very good. Hot streaks, YES. 

    Think about it. Does "anyone" really know for certain who will win the game? NO! If Seattle wins tonight against NYY, who in their right mind would say the Mariners would go into Yankee stadium and whip their ass and possibly sweep them.  NOT EVEN THE BEST CAPPERS WOULD SAY THAT!

    My advice, do your own research, follow forums and learn some systems.  BTW, Sean Murphy, an expert handicapper here on covers even wrote in an article a few months back "To win at betting, one needs a system."  He didn't say they needed a handicapper. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 8:55 PM ET #6

    Let me clarify.. All people who bet, including experts, will level out to around 52/53%.

    But you can win money with a system.  There is plenty of help on here.

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    Let me clarify.. All people who bet, including experts, will level out to around 52/53%.

    But you can win money with a system.  There is plenty of help on here.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 9:00 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Look up Rush on Google under GOP.

    You don't need to pay someone to Cap for you.  Stats show time and time again that even the greatest handicappers in the world, like the ones who post these forums (like me, like you) will always level out to around a 52/53% winning percentage, AT BEST.  University's have done studies on this time and again. I respect the fact the cappers on this website who people pay for. Big Al, Sean Murphy etc.... BUT the fact remains, and it has been shown time and time again, if YOU  LOOK AT THE STATS OF A PARTICULAR GAME, YOU WILL PICK JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS ANY EXPERT OUT THERE.  You, or anyone else out there doesn't have to believe me but the fact remains, nobody picks em very good. Hot streaks, YES. 

    Think about it. Does "anyone" really know for certain who will win the game? NO! If Seattle wins tonight against NYY, who in their right mind would say the Mariners would go into Yankee stadium and whip their ass and possibly sweep them.  NOT EVEN THE BEST CAPPERS WOULD SAY THAT!

    My advice, do your own research, follow forums and learn some systems.  BTW, Sean Murphy, an expert handicapper here on covers even wrote in an article a few months back "To win at betting, one needs a system."  He didn't say they needed a handicapper. 

    You sound like a wise man! That’s some good stuff. I will look into systems. It’s funny that you mention how all handicappers level out over time. I’ve looked at sports monitoring trackers from previous years and noticed some well know cappers below the Mendoza line. I especially noticed how a capper will do great for a couple of years and cost on their name/fame for the rest of their carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Look up Rush on Google under GOP.

    You don't need to pay someone to Cap for you.  Stats show time and time again that even the greatest handicappers in the world, like the ones who post these forums (like me, like you) will always level out to around a 52/53% winning percentage, AT BEST.  University's have done studies on this time and again. I respect the fact the cappers on this website who people pay for. Big Al, Sean Murphy etc.... BUT the fact remains, and it has been shown time and time again, if YOU  LOOK AT THE STATS OF A PARTICULAR GAME, YOU WILL PICK JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS ANY EXPERT OUT THERE.  You, or anyone else out there doesn't have to believe me but the fact remains, nobody picks em very good. Hot streaks, YES. 

    Think about it. Does "anyone" really know for certain who will win the game? NO! If Seattle wins tonight against NYY, who in their right mind would say the Mariners would go into Yankee stadium and whip their ass and possibly sweep them.  NOT EVEN THE BEST CAPPERS WOULD SAY THAT!

    My advice, do your own research, follow forums and learn some systems.  BTW, Sean Murphy, an expert handicapper here on covers even wrote in an article a few months back "To win at betting, one needs a system."  He didn't say they needed a handicapper. 

    You sound like a wise man! That’s some good stuff. I will look into systems. It’s funny that you mention how all handicappers level out over time. I’ve looked at sports monitoring trackers from previous years and noticed some well know cappers below the Mendoza line. I especially noticed how a capper will do great for a couple of years and cost on their name/fame for the rest of their carrier.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 9:34 PM ET #8

    wise? thanks. i just know betting is not a winner for 95% of people. in ANY given season of sports.

    take a look @ these people who post. they have some decent systems i learned from them: Leperachaun, smitler, neilsy (nice cfl strategy coming up), supereagle has the martingale. theres a couple more who you look at too. make an informed decision & go for it.
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    wise? thanks. i just know betting is not a winner for 95% of people. in ANY given season of sports.

    take a look @ these people who post. they have some decent systems i learned from them: Leperachaun, smitler, neilsy (nice cfl strategy coming up), supereagle has the martingale. theres a couple more who you look at too. make an informed decision & go for it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:23 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    wise? thanks. i just know betting is not a winner for 95% of people. in ANY given season of sports.

    take a look @ these people who post. they have some decent systems i learned from them: Leperachaun, smitler, neilsy (nice cfl strategy coming up), supereagle has the martingale. theres a couple more who you look at too. make an informed decision & go for it.

    Thanks man. I did look at Leperachaun system, that’s no joke. You got to love the passion. I have been looking around this sight all day LOL. I must say there are some very interesting concepts. I’ll keep looking and thanks for all the advice.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    wise? thanks. i just know betting is not a winner for 95% of people. in ANY given season of sports.

    take a look @ these people who post. they have some decent systems i learned from them: Leperachaun, smitler, neilsy (nice cfl strategy coming up), supereagle has the martingale. theres a couple more who you look at too. make an informed decision & go for it.

    Thanks man. I did look at Leperachaun system, that’s no joke. You got to love the passion. I have been looking around this sight all day LOL. I must say there are some very interesting concepts. I’ll keep looking and thanks for all the advice.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:26 PM ET #10

    kreatture too. call82 started a post i think is great.
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:28 PM ET #11

    BTW, this is wrong forum to be posting this in. 

    BOL.
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    BTW, this is wrong forum to be posting this in. 

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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    BTW, this is wrong forum to be posting this in. 

    BOL.

    Just a question most of the systems here are Martingale systems ...do they work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    BTW, this is wrong forum to be posting this in. 

    BOL.

    Just a question most of the systems here are Martingale systems ...do they work?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2010 - 1:57 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Just a question most of the systems here are Martingale systems ...do they work?



    They can... but statistically they are flawed and will lose unless you get lucky. There's a big discussion about this in supereagle's martingale chase thread... check the last 4 pages or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Just a question most of the systems here are Martingale systems ...do they work?



    They can... but statistically they are flawed and will lose unless you get lucky. There's a big discussion about this in supereagle's martingale chase thread... check the last 4 pages or so.
     
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    Basically, Martingale can work. BUT, if you are smart. Hence, a $10 initial bet will get you to some astronomical amount at bet 13 (assuming you have lost 12 in a row) that only rich people could afford to lose.  Also, most Books will not take a bet that large.  Supereagle martingale chase is succesful because he makes very good decisions.  I don't do it that long. Max for me is 3. 

    I do not recommend you play a system unless you trust what he/she is doing. 

    A martingale loss of three games can literally tear down your bankroll. I just lost my 3rd play today in a row, but my other bets came through last couple of days so I am only down $50 instead of $250. 

    So, yes they work. But when they don't you better have good money management in place before that.  . 

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    Basically, Martingale can work. BUT, if you are smart. Hence, a $10 initial bet will get you to some astronomical amount at bet 13 (assuming you have lost 12 in a row) that only rich people could afford to lose.  Also, most Books will not take a bet that large.  Supereagle martingale chase is succesful because he makes very good decisions.  I don't do it that long. Max for me is 3. 

    I do not recommend you play a system unless you trust what he/she is doing. 

    A martingale loss of three games can literally tear down your bankroll. I just lost my 3rd play today in a row, but my other bets came through last couple of days so I am only down $50 instead of $250. 

    So, yes they work. But when they don't you better have good money management in place before that.  . 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Basically, Martingale can work. BUT, if you are smart. Hence, a $10 initial bet will get you to some astronomical amount at bet 13 (assuming you have lost 12 in a row) that only rich people could afford to lose.  Also, most Books will not take a bet that large.  Supereagle martingale chase is succesful because he makes very good decisions.  I don't do it that long. Max for me is 3. 

    I do not recommend you play a system unless you trust what he/she is doing. 

    A martingale loss of three games can literally tear down your bankroll. I just lost my 3rd play today in a row, but my other bets came through last couple of days so I am only down $50 instead of $250. 

    So, yes they work. But when they don't you better have good money management in place before that.  . 

    i get what your doing. my ex boss did the same thing but with a computer based system trading stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Basically, Martingale can work. BUT, if you are smart. Hence, a $10 initial bet will get you to some astronomical amount at bet 13 (assuming you have lost 12 in a row) that only rich people could afford to lose.  Also, most Books will not take a bet that large.  Supereagle martingale chase is succesful because he makes very good decisions.  I don't do it that long. Max for me is 3. 

    I do not recommend you play a system unless you trust what he/she is doing. 

    A martingale loss of three games can literally tear down your bankroll. I just lost my 3rd play today in a row, but my other bets came through last couple of days so I am only down $50 instead of $250. 

    So, yes they work. But when they don't you better have good money management in place before that.  . 

    i get what your doing. my ex boss did the same thing but with a computer based system trading stock.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 12:42 AM ET #16

    the best sytem is on here too! coin flip system. 
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2010 - 8:18 AM ET #17

    check this site out. Tod does it for a living. He uses labaurche line

    https://platinumsportsinvestingblog.blogspot.com/

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    check this site out. Tod does it for a living. He uses labaurche line

    https://platinumsportsinvestingblog.blogspot.com/

     
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    Hi there read your opening piece. Take a look at this website sincitysharps.com I run the service I'm monitored I have several systems that I use, as well as handicap! Bettor2win is right, most cappers will hit 52% but that is winning! If anyone tells you they are hitting 65% or better run with your money in hand! I have paid these so called sportshandicappers in the past and have been burned! What they do is give out both sides, that way they never lose! I play my games that I give out. I live in Las Vegas hangout in the sportsbooks and try to give out the best play possible for that particuliar day. I don't charge exuberant amounts of money but if you win pay me a percentage! Check out my website sincitysharps.com
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    Hi there read your opening piece. Take a look at this website sincitysharps.com I run the service I'm monitored I have several systems that I use, as well as handicap! Bettor2win is right, most cappers will hit 52% but that is winning! If anyone tells you they are hitting 65% or better run with your money in hand! I have paid these so called sportshandicappers in the past and have been burned! What they do is give out both sides, that way they never lose! I play my games that I give out. I live in Las Vegas hangout in the sportsbooks and try to give out the best play possible for that particuliar day. I don't charge exuberant amounts of money but if you win pay me a percentage! Check out my website sincitysharps.com
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Let me clarify.. All people who bet, including experts, will level out to around 52/53%.

    But you can win money with a system.  There is plenty of help on here.


    I disagree. NOT saying people can do 80% winners over their career or anything like that, but higher than 53% for good systems, absolutely. BTW, most 53% systems are net losers adjusted for the line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Let me clarify.. All people who bet, including experts, will level out to around 52/53%.

    But you can win money with a system.  There is plenty of help on here.


    I disagree. NOT saying people can do 80% winners over their career or anything like that, but higher than 53% for good systems, absolutely. BTW, most 53% systems are net losers adjusted for the line...
     
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    I have used many forum cappers and services and to me the most consistent and best capper are the team from "bettingresource"  They are solid when it comes to picking winners or money management. Overall they hit somewhere between 54 and 55% but they play lot of games in +odds and they very rarely lay juice of worse than -110. They also have lot of very good resourceful articles that are must read for all bettors even if you don't follow their picks. They are more of sports investors rather than sports gamblers, you will realize this once you read their articles and look at their picks.

    But again, no matter how good the capper is, as a bettor you need to control yourself and stay disciplined in order tow in even by tailing.
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    I have used many forum cappers and services and to me the most consistent and best capper are the team from "bettingresource"  They are solid when it comes to picking winners or money management. Overall they hit somewhere between 54 and 55% but they play lot of games in +odds and they very rarely lay juice of worse than -110. They also have lot of very good resourceful articles that are must read for all bettors even if you don't follow their picks. They are more of sports investors rather than sports gamblers, you will realize this once you read their articles and look at their picks.

    But again, no matter how good the capper is, as a bettor you need to control yourself and stay disciplined in order tow in even by tailing.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #21

    Thanks for all the advice.

     

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    Thanks for all the advice.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2010 - 4:13 PM ET #22

    If your looking for some one that posts their picks here on covers. I think one of the best all/sports cappers is Target9. He seems to win on all the sports i have seen him post on.

     

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    If your looking for some one that posts their picks here on covers. I think one of the best all/sports cappers is Target9. He seems to win on all the sports i have seen him post on.

     

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