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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 7:24 AM ET #1

    after a natural player comes out place a bet on banker
    on avg. you will see 10 natural player per shoe
    you will hit 55% on banker after a natural player
    after the 5% commission on a winning banker bet
    you will win $72.50 if you placed $100 bet

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    after a natural player comes out place a bet on banker
    on avg. you will see 10 natural player per shoe
    you will hit 55% on banker after a natural player
    after the 5% commission on a winning banker bet
    you will win $72.50 if you placed $100 bet

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 7:41 AM ET #2

    you will win $72.50 if you placed $100 bet***

    what i meant to say if you been betting $100
    per hand you will win $72.50 in the long run
    you will not win every shoes this is on ave of
    1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes
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    you will win $72.50 if you placed $100 bet***

    what i meant to say if you been betting $100
    per hand you will win $72.50 in the long run
    you will not win every shoes this is on ave of
    1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 8:47 AM ET #3

    The Banker hand wins at a rate of .458653, or 46% of the time.  This rate is not affected by what happened in the previous hand, whether it was a Player natural, a Banker natural, a tie, or whatever.  The cards have no memory of what happened in the previous hand.  The house edge remains the same, and over the long run, your "system" will lose money.
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    The Banker hand wins at a rate of .458653, or 46% of the time.  This rate is not affected by what happened in the previous hand, whether it was a Player natural, a Banker natural, a tie, or whatever.  The cards have no memory of what happened in the previous hand.  The house edge remains the same, and over the long run, your "system" will lose money.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 11:46 AM ET #4

    banker win at that rate if you played every hand
    but if you only play banker after a natural player
    it will give u a different result
    over 1000 baccarat shoes was used for this systems

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    banker win at that rate if you played every hand
    but if you only play banker after a natural player
    it will give u a different result
    over 1000 baccarat shoes was used for this systems

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 1:34 PM ET #5

    So once a Player natural comes out, the cards left in the shoe are pre-arranged so that the Banker wins the next hand?  Please. Think about it.
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    So once a Player natural comes out, the cards left in the shoe are pre-arranged so that the Banker wins the next hand?  Please. Think about it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 9:18 PM ET #6

    prearrange is not the right word to use but
    if banker hits 55% after a natural player then
    you can use any word to describe it all you want
    heres a link you can play around with
    https://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/1000BaccaratShoes-8deck.txt
    have fun with it
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    prearrange is not the right word to use but
    if banker hits 55% after a natural player then
    you can use any word to describe it all you want
    heres a link you can play around with
    https://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/1000BaccaratShoes-8deck.txt
    have fun with it
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2011 - 6:29 AM ET #7

    Baccarat? We call this Chemmy
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    Baccarat? We call this Chemmy
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2011 - 7:22 AM ET #8

    chemin de fer

    best game in the casino
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    chemin de fer

    best game in the casino
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 11:58 PM ET #9

    LOL it dont work!!I
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    LOL it dont work!!I
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 4:07 PM ET #10

    I don't know anything about Baccarat, probably the only game I never learned.  However, I do know  the analysis posted in that link only proves that when you have 2 choices you have a 50-50 shot, then the chance to bet a tie gives the house an advantage over the player, so in the end no matter what you do the house wins.  

    I also know a couple other things 

    when the cards are shuffled  it is a random event, unless you know the order of the cards in the deck.   

    When the cards are dealt certain cards don't attach themselves to other cards so one event would happen after the other event!

    Is there a Leprechaun in the shoe that makes sure certain cards come after the other?  Because that would be cool! 

    If any random Joe can walk up to a game and beat it with a system, trust me the casino would not have that game on the floor.  
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    I don't know anything about Baccarat, probably the only game I never learned.  However, I do know  the analysis posted in that link only proves that when you have 2 choices you have a 50-50 shot, then the chance to bet a tie gives the house an advantage over the player, so in the end no matter what you do the house wins.  

    I also know a couple other things 

    when the cards are shuffled  it is a random event, unless you know the order of the cards in the deck.   

    When the cards are dealt certain cards don't attach themselves to other cards so one event would happen after the other event!

    Is there a Leprechaun in the shoe that makes sure certain cards come after the other?  Because that would be cool! 

    If any random Joe can walk up to a game and beat it with a system, trust me the casino would not have that game on the floor.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 5:08 PM ET #11

    LOL Leprechaun I just spit out my Diet Pepsi!!Well only counting cards can you narrow down the odds of the card coming next as card counters do in Black Jack!!
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    LOL Leprechaun I just spit out my Diet Pepsi!!Well only counting cards can you narrow down the odds of the card coming next as card counters do in Black Jack!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 6:57 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

    LOL Leprechaun I just spit out my Diet Pepsi!!Well only counting cards can you narrow down the odds of the card coming next as card counters do in Black Jack!!


    Actually, MJ, Baccarat is not a countable game as a practical matter.  Thw Wizard of Odds proves this on his website.  Even if you kept a perfect count(very difficult with this game) you would only be able to beat the house edge once in every 475 hands, and your expected return would be abysmal. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

    LOL Leprechaun I just spit out my Diet Pepsi!!Well only counting cards can you narrow down the odds of the card coming next as card counters do in Black Jack!!


    Actually, MJ, Baccarat is not a countable game as a practical matter.  Thw Wizard of Odds proves this on his website.  Even if you kept a perfect count(very difficult with this game) you would only be able to beat the house edge once in every 475 hands, and your expected return would be abysmal. 
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2011 - 12:01 AM ET #13

    its works the problem is that the pct over the house is so little its hard for a small bettor to sit there and grind it out. its like a large gold mining company that digs tons of rock and dirt just to recover less than an oz of gold. its not worth it for a single gold miner to do the same. the point is that you need a big bank to do this system it not worth it if youre planning to bet less than $50 a hand. you can make a good living with a flat bet of $100. another thing is that you need to have a game that takes less than 80 mins to finish a shoe (avg 80 hands). if youre on a take that have players taking forever to place a bet move on to another table.
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    its works the problem is that the pct over the house is so little its hard for a small bettor to sit there and grind it out. its like a large gold mining company that digs tons of rock and dirt just to recover less than an oz of gold. its not worth it for a single gold miner to do the same. the point is that you need a big bank to do this system it not worth it if youre planning to bet less than $50 a hand. you can make a good living with a flat bet of $100. another thing is that you need to have a game that takes less than 80 mins to finish a shoe (avg 80 hands). if youre on a take that have players taking forever to place a bet move on to another table.
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