[59-46] System Plays 1/31/2011

NBA
MIL/LAC Over 189 (14)

NCAAB
LOU/G'TWN Over 143 (17)


System Plays ~ 56.2%

Records Since Indexing Each Play
(14) 1 - 0
(17) 5 - 4

NCAAB
TEX/TEXAM Over 128.5 (17)

(17) 5 - 4

See only a matter of time before another tout on here. 

Would you like to know which play is the strongest of today’s picks?

(1) Pay the paypal account below

(2) E-mail the phrase, “Strongest Play” to the e-mail below

Paypal – tafter12 ($75 for today or $250 for the next 10 )

Newbys beware we get guys like these every month.  He had a couple good days and got up to 56% and now he wants your money.  There was a guy 2 months ago that was doing pretty good, then couldn't win a game for 2 weeks straight and lost it all. $75 for a daily pick?  Get real!!!!  At 56%?  You'll lose the pick and your $75 all in 1 swoop... LMAO!!!!

I'm not a tout.  All of my picks are free.  And I'm quite sure I'll be at 60% in no time.  All my tailors know.  My system has been 53/54% - then I've made improvements to it.  It sounds to me like you're just jealous that you can't pick winners the way I do. 

There's nothing wrong with posting whatever I want at my site.  I'm not going to be demanding any money from anyone.  I won't be gone in a couple months; in fact, most of the people at this will be hopping on board as many already have with my FREE teachings/services. 

If I'm a tout, then why would I be teaching / explaining every system play with such detail. 

If you really want to argue about this, why don't you just post your picks with mine each day, and we can see who actually know's what they're talking about.  Otherwise, go elsewhere boss.  Demeaning me is not helping anyone.  My intentions are honest, and if that's too much for you to handle, maybe you've got some trust issues you need to work out.  Either way, go away; you're only invitation around me is to join me on my team or post/compare your picks, and probably lose.   

After reading through a few of your posts here, I was interested in finding your first post for this topic,so I could better understand the parameters of your system.

Then I found a post with a link to your site.  The nice thing about your site is that it ties each of your previous posts together, (its own thread), and the videos show your work and demonstrate your commitment to the mission.  = Winning.

Your work is admirable, and I hope you don't turn tout.

I look forward to learning more about your systems.   Please continue to post.    

Prime1, Thanks for you comment, and no, I am not turning tout.  I just had some people that are tailing/following that don't want to play more than one game per day. 

The work I put into this is already consuming as it is, and I'm not complaining because I love doing it;  however, I'm not interested in weighing these system plays as I'm perfectly content with 60% + over a long haul grind. 

Some people only want to play one game at a time. The idea of offering my opinion of which play is the stronger than 60% was an idea proposed by some of my tailors.  This is extra work for me. 

I hope all understand this:  I will continue to offer my mathematical services / strategies to all for free - no tout.  I'm not even going to withhold the pick that's the strongest according to my extra calculations.  But if someone wanted me to do work for them, like determining the strongest one, then I'm offering them an additional service. 

All of the people that have contested my intentions thus far have been wrong by a long shot.  I do have a masters degree in mathematics; I was a math teacher at the HS and College level for 9 years.  I'm an aries - honest to a fault and I love helping others. 

Thanks again for you support, and I look forward to winning with all of you in the future.  The only thing I see happening that'd stop me from giving these picks is if I was hired as a line's maker; thus, no longer being allowed to give picks.  I don't speak from an egotistical standpoint, but an honest one. 

So what is your strongest pick of the day record?  Is it hitting at better then 56% I would  hope so.  You can't sell your best pick without a record behind it.  You went 1-2 yesterday, oh let me guess the play that won was your strongest pick.

Hectar,

If you put half as much attention to posting/playing your own plays as you do demeaning other posters who at least have shared their system or plays, you would be in business. 

Who gives a shit what he eventually wants to do.  He has given out his systems and given out his face for people to see.  It isn't rocket science to figure out Tafter's type of plays anymore on your own. 

This is a warning to the newby's like yourself allday.  There have been countless professors or mathmaticians on here over many years and yet they all lose and go away.  Vegas knows all the angles they have the best math guys in the world setting the spreads and totals.  To think this guy has the holy grail is wrong.  And now he thinks he will be hired as a lines maker?  C'mon the jokes just keep getting funnier around here.

So the strong play was NCAAB TEX/TEXAM over  which lost.

Any newbys that ran out and paid $75 lost that and the 5-10% of your bankroll he recommended to risk.  If only they had listened to me...lol

I do respect his site and teaching ability, but results in the sports world don't always reflect the math.  You can play the NBA 1/2 ats system and just bet game 1, 1st half and be hitting 70% for the season.  There and I didn't even charge you $75

Now lets see $75 for a daily pick aor $250 for 10.  No record, well 0-1 as far as I know.  Lets look here at covers, some will have a big bankroll and others will have a not so big bankroll.  Lets say the average would be $2000.  Tafter says you should bet between 5% and 10% on his play.  So between $100 and $200 on a $2000 bankroll.  Surely you would not just dish out the $250 for 10 picks with no track record.  So you decide to try the daily $75 pick.  On a 5% wager would you spend $75 to win $100 with a profit of $25 on a winning pick?  Not likely as you would lose $175 if the pick lost.  Now on a 10% wager would you spend $75 to win $200 with a profit of $125?  Some might but a loss would be $275 that is almost a 14% hit to the bankroll.  I have no problem if he wants to charge something, but his current price points are way off.  Also he should establish a proven record so people can see if it is worth it.  If he posted his strong plays for the month of February and they did well, above 60%, and then lowered his prices it could work out.

Hectar,

It sounds to me like you either had Duke on saturday and want to take out your frustrations on the "newest punk" that actually had STJs.  Or you got taken by a tout, and you're now spewing your hatred onto me. 

"There have been countless professors or mathmaticians on here over many years and yet they all lose and go away"

with all due respect, you've been a member here august of 2009.  Two and half years doesn't exactly constitute 'being here for years,' as you imply.

I have no hard feelings for you, but your story is nonsense.  You keep saying that I have no record.  I post it with every post, and I'm now posting the record of the actually play.  Calm down; take a breather.

Did you read what I had to say?  The strong play pick wasn't my idea; I have followers that don't want to play all the system plays b/c it's too many games.  I have no problem taking 55/60%, but many people just want 1 game. 

Hectar,

It sounds like you, yourself are a tout.  I'm not even playing all of Tafter's plays.  I only compare them with mine.  Anybody who pays $75 for a pick is crazy when you can learn enough from Covers, other people, or other sites for free.  It is just refreshing to actually see a guy making plays on Covers and backing it up with videos of himself and actually "teaching" something.  Now you want to tear him down because he might actually want to make extra money on the side.  I really don't get all the hate for touts.  It is a tough economony we live in these days so any extra income is nice.  On the flip end of that, anyone willing to pay for picks is crazy.  It is really no different than other businesses.  If a tout is good, he will have a winning business. If he sucks, he will wash out. 

Why don't you post those first half plays then to actually benefit everybody?  You would rather just tear posters apart though wouldn't you like poor old Thinker like bumping up every thread he has made?  Why don't you change your name to Newby-Police?  Look, if people can't figure out not to pay for picks, they are in a never ending losing battle.  They shouldn't need fellas like you trying to protect them. 

 (I've been on covers for 6 years with another alias (as I'm sure you have a different one than Hectar as well). 

Nope I never had Duke. There is no hate, I said I respected what you are doing with the exception of charging for the strongest daily pick.  Yes, you post your record, but you have no record specifically for your strongest daily pick, for which you are charging.  Until it is proven I would just stay away and not pay.  You should look around the internet not many if any charge $75 for a daily pick.  Besides once you do all your calculations for your picks for the day, the strongest play of the day should stand out infront of you with really not too much extra work to determine it. 

Been here alot longer then this profile says.  Seen the math geniuses come and go.  If I'm a tout then what am I touting?  lol I'm not tearing him down just telling the newbys to save the $75 Just where do you think Thinker is now?  He's not in Vegas selling his system like he said he was going to do, or any of the 20 versions he started after it failed.  The first half plays are in erbatiz's thread, you already posted there allday.  54 wins out of 78 plays thats 69%  Just play the 1st play and don't chase.

My system has been posted; how am I going to be able to sell it?  It's free. 

I have my credentials, and I'll remind you of them:

Masters' degree in mathematics
Reader of the authors' books: Dan Gordon, Harry Misner, Joe Tuttle, and John R. Smith. 

I lost money in the stock market few years ago.  Then I went on to read a multiple of books:  Timing The Market, The 4th MegaMarket, A Maniac Commodity's Trader's Guide, The Master Swing Trader, and about 10 others.  I went to make huge money investing/trading Ford, Sirius, and VXX. 

Do you see a pattern here?  I do.

Maybe I am an expert mathematician - maybe not.  I think so, but my question is this:  What makes you an expert skeptic? 

I think you're taking prior pains, and you now have blinders on clouded with your resentments / losses. 

I believe my system plays' record, which BTW, only counts SU winners in NHL and most of them are dogs, will be over 60% by the end of March.  

I was refering to a guy who used to post here Thinker, who had dreams of selling his system in Vegas before it went bottoms up.  His was mostly NHL dogs as well, and he got bitten badly.  Yes, Ford was the stock to own for the past couple years.

To the readers of this thread, and Travis knows this, my 55.6% record has some plays in there that were more coin flips as I made huge improvements to basketball over/unders as I now only use each teams average total rather than a league-wide rule.  League wide rules can only be used when the league has a small disparity, or in other words, a small standard deviation compared to its mean. 

NHL & NFL are the only two that I encompass a strategy/system for all.
 
My system's % would be higher than 60% right now, and I believe that's being conservative in the adjustment. 

To all the skeptics out there:  Just watch; I will prove all of you wrong.  Go ahead and doubt me the same way they all doubted Seabiscuit when he steamrolled War Admiral.  I am smarter than the average person, and saying that is even more conservative than my estimating my system's percentage. 

BTW, Travis, thanks for your loyalty / friendship.  This has been so much fun.  I'll have to hit you up when I'm out your way. 

Many people are smarter then the average person, they just don't post it everywhere they go!!!!