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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:42 PM ET #126

    nice work guy..  would love to hear how the the 3,6,13 plays with the ml plays have done for this season so far.  Like how many units you would be up?  I know you would be up close to 42 units for the ml plays but how about the ats plays this whole season.  Does someone already have that data?
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    nice work guy..  would love to hear how the the 3,6,13 plays with the ml plays have done for this season so far.  Like how many units you would be up?  I know you would be up close to 42 units for the ml plays but how about the ats plays this whole season.  Does someone already have that data?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:45 PM ET #127

    my research centers only on the NBA; cannot give any response to college hoops; however,,it has been brought to my attention by many handicappers, that the%is higher in the NCAAB, I could't answer that with out days of research, maybe some one has that answer......
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    my research centers only on the NBA; cannot give any response to college hoops; however,,it has been brought to my attention by many handicappers, that the%is higher in the NCAAB, I could't answer that with out days of research, maybe some one has that answer......
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:47 PM ET #128

    my question was related to NBA.  I know that someone did ats for the NBA for two months, i was just wondering if someond did it for the whole year?
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    my question was related to NBA.  I know that someone did ats for the NBA for two months, i was just wondering if someond did it for the whole year?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:51 PM ET #129

    NBA Entire 2007-08 season to date:
     
    Let me preface this by saying, I used CLOSING LINES, not opening lines.  I only factored in +3, 6, 13 and I broke it down road versus home and by month.  Enjoy the numbers.  Like everything, it has its swings, but in the long run, it looks like Road Dogs pay nicely this year.
     
    Road Dogs (39-29-2) 56.7%:
    +3 19-12-1
    +6 16-16-0
    +13 3-1-1
    Nov/Oct (13-5)
    Dec (9-12)
    Jan (9-9)
    Feb (7-3)
     
    Home Dogs (18-16-2) 52.9%
    +3 11-12-1
    +6 7-4-1
    +13 0-0-0
    Nov/Oct (5-8)
    Dec (7-4)
    Jan (1-2)
    Feb (5-2)...notice the falloff in games...not as many of these numbers in games...interesting.
     
    Total (56-45-4) 55.4%
     
    Bet $100 a game, assume juice of $10 and for the season you are up $650.
     
    If this theory is hitting at 70%+ then it has to be on opening lines and then maybe on opening lines that do not move off that number.
     
    Buck did some good analysis around the hook and a whole point.
     
    The original post said the sample covered 30 years and 3000+ games, so the 100 this season would mean it was only for road dogs and it would be for opening line, not closing.  More lines are likely to close at these numbers (particularly the 13...that is a lot of points).
     
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    NBA Entire 2007-08 season to date:
     
    Let me preface this by saying, I used CLOSING LINES, not opening lines.  I only factored in +3, 6, 13 and I broke it down road versus home and by month.  Enjoy the numbers.  Like everything, it has its swings, but in the long run, it looks like Road Dogs pay nicely this year.
     
    Road Dogs (39-29-2) 56.7%:
    +3 19-12-1
    +6 16-16-0
    +13 3-1-1
    Nov/Oct (13-5)
    Dec (9-12)
    Jan (9-9)
    Feb (7-3)
     
    Home Dogs (18-16-2) 52.9%
    +3 11-12-1
    +6 7-4-1
    +13 0-0-0
    Nov/Oct (5-8)
    Dec (7-4)
    Jan (1-2)
    Feb (5-2)...notice the falloff in games...not as many of these numbers in games...interesting.
     
    Total (56-45-4) 55.4%
     
    Bet $100 a game, assume juice of $10 and for the season you are up $650.
     
    If this theory is hitting at 70%+ then it has to be on opening lines and then maybe on opening lines that do not move off that number.
     
    Buck did some good analysis around the hook and a whole point.
     
    The original post said the sample covered 30 years and 3000+ games, so the 100 this season would mean it was only for road dogs and it would be for opening line, not closing.  More lines are likely to close at these numbers (particularly the 13...that is a lot of points).
     
    Good luck. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:52 PM ET #130

    Hey thanks sea! I'm done crunching numbers for the day... I have nothing to do tmr other then watch and gamble on games, so bet your ass I'll be back at it tmr. I'll open a thread to go more in depth about this sytem. Hope you'll join and contribute! So far today Washington +3 and we'll see if I have any 2/5/12 closing games  tonight.
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    Hey thanks sea! I'm done crunching numbers for the day... I have nothing to do tmr other then watch and gamble on games, so bet your ass I'll be back at it tmr. I'll open a thread to go more in depth about this sytem. Hope you'll join and contribute! So far today Washington +3 and we'll see if I have any 2/5/12 closing games  tonight.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #131

    thanks for the work jeboton.  I wonder how the system is hitting this year on oppening lines.
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    thanks for the work jeboton.  I wonder how the system is hitting this year on oppening lines.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:56 PM ET #132

    ATS for NBA for whole year is as follows:
     
    Total plays:  116
    Totals wins:   68
    Percentage    59%
     
    Individually
     
    +3 line
     
    GAmes   34
    Wins       22
    Percentage  65%
     
    +6 Line
     
    Games   77
    Wins      43
    Percentage  56%
     
    +13 Line
     
    Games 5
    Wins 3
    Percentage 60%
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    ATS for NBA for whole year is as follows:
     
    Total plays:  116
    Totals wins:   68
    Percentage    59%
     
    Individually
     
    +3 line
     
    GAmes   34
    Wins       22
    Percentage  65%
     
    +6 Line
     
    Games   77
    Wins      43
    Percentage  56%
     
    +13 Line
     
    Games 5
    Wins 3
    Percentage 60%
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 5:57 PM ET #133

    so is washington a play or not.  it opened at 2 now at 3.  i guess wintrop is the play also?
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    so is washington a play or not.  it opened at 2 now at 3.  i guess wintrop is the play also?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 6:03 PM ET #134

    thanks alot guys.  Might have to look into this more.
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    thanks alot guys.  Might have to look into this more.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 6:10 PM ET #135

    JLT9889 ,, that has to be your lean, it's your$ go with your strongest lean, if the Wiz+3 'feel's, if not, lay-off, there's other games;
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    JLT9889 ,, that has to be your lean, it's your$ go with your strongest lean, if the Wiz+3 'feel's, if not, lay-off, there's other games;
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 6:19 PM ET #136

    good work on number crunching fellas...I was already on the wiz, and I just took the hornets in nba for saturday (plus 6 roadies). 
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    good work on number crunching fellas...I was already on the wiz, and I just took the hornets in nba for saturday (plus 6 roadies). 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #137

    DEPAUL / SETON HALL TOMMORROW IN NCAA
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    DEPAUL / SETON HALL TOMMORROW IN NCAA
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 8:40 PM ET #138

    Can someone post a link to where this book can be found?
     
    IT'S NOT ON AMAZON.COM...
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    Can someone post a link to where this book can be found?
     
    IT'S NOT ON AMAZON.COM...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 8:46 PM ET #139

    and by the way... PRINCETON (NCAAB) was the only road dog that VI listed that opened at 3...none for 6 or 13.  So i tried it and so far Princeton is actually winning...i just took the spread.  I know this is MAINLY for NBA...
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    and by the way... PRINCETON (NCAAB) was the only road dog that VI listed that opened at 3...none for 6 or 13.  So i tried it and so far Princeton is actually winning...i just took the spread.  I know this is MAINLY for NBA...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 8:48 PM ET #140

    Overtime and Princeton, as usual, forgets how to score...will they cover?  (I ended up getting them at +4.5)  This is my first test of this theory so lets see what happens...
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    Overtime and Princeton, as usual, forgets how to score...will they cover?  (I ended up getting them at +4.5)  This is my first test of this theory so lets see what happens...
     
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    no cover
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    no cover
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2008 - 9:54 PM ET #142

    a couple of weeks back got on this...packersbackers had a thread on the topic...that day we took The Heat+6 vs Memphis sunday afternoon game ahhh we lost by 1...fast forward to this week Seattle v Memphis +6 ummm Memphis AGAIN hummm....once again a 1 pt loss using the system...Its 50/50 if you ask me...maybe buying the points here is actually a good thing...as for college let me see 1 day my clock got cleared with this method so I would lean with just NBA this method...BUT the promising thing is I think this kind of system has legs, but everything evolves somewhat (adapts) so with that said playing lately with similar style just switching the key numbers some and again actually buying a .5 pt here and there makes a difference long term! Good luck all
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    a couple of weeks back got on this...packersbackers had a thread on the topic...that day we took The Heat+6 vs Memphis sunday afternoon game ahhh we lost by 1...fast forward to this week Seattle v Memphis +6 ummm Memphis AGAIN hummm....once again a 1 pt loss using the system...Its 50/50 if you ask me...maybe buying the points here is actually a good thing...as for college let me see 1 day my clock got cleared with this method so I would lean with just NBA this method...BUT the promising thing is I think this kind of system has legs, but everything evolves somewhat (adapts) so with that said playing lately with similar style just switching the key numbers some and again actually buying a .5 pt here and there makes a difference long term! Good luck all
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 11:37 AM ET #143

    STASH...I have searched every bookstore including the VEGAS stores and there is no record of the 3/6/13 book...Is there anyplace you have actually seen the book, read the book or actually found the book availlable for sale...I would love to read it but it seems it is a mystery...
    ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
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    STASH...I have searched every bookstore including the VEGAS stores and there is no record of the 3/6/13 book...Is there anyplace you have actually seen the book, read the book or actually found the book availlable for sale...I would love to read it but it seems it is a mystery...
    ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
     
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    no response on where to find this resource...interesting...
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    no response on where to find this resource...interesting...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 1:26 PM ET #145

    This is the only reference I could find on Amazon.com for Andy Iskoe, the author of the book.  I'll keep checking.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/Revelations-Sports-Betting-Opus-5/dp/096365005X/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203791091&sr=1-8
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    This is the only reference I could find on Amazon.com for Andy Iskoe, the author of the book.  I'll keep checking.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/Revelations-Sports-Betting-Opus-5/dp/096365005X/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203791091&sr=1-8
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #146

    Moving this to the systems/strategies area fellas.


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    Moving this to the systems/strategies area fellas.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #147

    I researched the Library of Congress this morning and couldn't find it there.  They have a question submissions page there and I submitted Andy Iskoe's name for research.  It's my understanding that a copy of every book published in the US is stored there.  Their response time says five business days, so I should hear something by next Friday.  I'll let you know.
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    I researched the Library of Congress this morning and couldn't find it there.  They have a question submissions page there and I submitted Andy Iskoe's name for research.  It's my understanding that a copy of every book published in the US is stored there.  Their response time says five business days, so I should hear something by next Friday.  I'll let you know.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 8:12 PM ET #148

    The whole thing is where do you get your opening line from. I guess a consensus of sportsbooks.  I would be very leery of laying down cash on this "system". 
     
    I thought more info was going to be produced here but I haven't seen it yet
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    The whole thing is where do you get your opening line from. I guess a consensus of sportsbooks.  I would be very leery of laying down cash on this "system". 
     
    I thought more info was going to be produced here but I haven't seen it yet
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 7:17 AM ET #149

    RE; the 'report' is available exclusivley at Gamblers Book Store, East  Charelston, Las Vegas, NV 89125... This is a one of a kind type of book store, dedicated to gaming only, and the only place on the globe you can obtain certain publications, Understand, this is a report, not a book. YES, I have read it in great detail...i think the bookstore has an order site by the same address; they also have inserts in gamingtoday.com /click archives; this is not material available 'outside' of the industry; found in trade publications and re-printed
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    RE; the 'report' is available exclusivley at Gamblers Book Store, East  Charelston, Las Vegas, NV 89125... This is a one of a kind type of book store, dedicated to gaming only, and the only place on the globe you can obtain certain publications, Understand, this is a report, not a book. YES, I have read it in great detail...i think the bookstore has an order site by the same address; they also have inserts in gamingtoday.com /click archives; this is not material available 'outside' of the industry; found in trade publications and re-printed
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 7:28 AM ET #150

    seaotter, appreciate your effort,but i doubt seriously if you'll find this in the Library of Congress,
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    seaotter, appreciate your effort,but i doubt seriously if you'll find this in the Library of Congress,
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