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    2nd version the new age handicapping of all sports games

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    Johnnythunders
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 11:30 AM ET #1

    OK this i read about years ago in a magazine and it's the one thing YOU or no lines maker can put a number on it virtually is totally consistent in every sport and you can toss the point spread out the window it will not factor into any game !

    What is It ? What is this common denominator i refer to ?

    THE Human Emotional Pstchological factor !

    I'm going to use recent NBA games where this happend the before and after games of when teams went flat and got killed !

    THE Kings results 3 games before and after 100%

    03/11/12 Atlanta L 99-106 Regular Season L -1.5 O 193.5
    03/09/12 Dallas W 110-97 Regular Season W 1.5 O 197
    03/07/12 New Orleans W 99-98 Regular Season L -5

    SEE that game before playing the champs no cover win against the lowly Hornets then step up wack out the champs as a small dog next game home vs Hawks CRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH & Burn !

    Blazers

    02/14/12 Washington L 109-124 Regular Season L -15

     long after this upset by wiz @ Wash

    03/10/12 @ Washington W 110-99 Regular Season W -5.5 O 200.5

     sure enough after avenging that loss

    03/13/12 @ Indiana L 75-92 Regular Season L 3.5

    THE Magic after Beating Rival Heat

    03/13/12 Miami W 104-98 (OT) Regular Season W 4 O 189

    03/14/12 @ San Antonio L 111-122 Regular Season L 7.5 O 192.5

    OF course on a b 2b got creamed at the spurs

    76ers very consistent year after year after beating hated rival in divison the Knicks and vice versa Knicks after losing to 76ers Kaboomie

    03/11/12 @ New York W 106-94 Regular Season W 2.5 O 194.5

     

    03/14/12 @ Indiana L 94-111 Regular Season L -1 O 185

    I don't know when they were favored -1 I had pacers - 1 game was over in 3rd quarter

    OK thats 4 teams in same situation all 100% results s/u and ATS

    just NBA and this is daily not weekly !

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    OK this i read about years ago in a magazine and it's the one thing YOU or no lines maker can put a number on it virtually is totally consistent in every sport and you can toss the point spread out the window it will not factor into any game !

    What is It ? What is this common denominator i refer to ?

    THE Human Emotional Pstchological factor !

    I'm going to use recent NBA games where this happend the before and after games of when teams went flat and got killed !

    THE Kings results 3 games before and after 100%

    03/11/12 Atlanta L 99-106 Regular Season L -1.5 O 193.5
    03/09/12 Dallas W 110-97 Regular Season W 1.5 O 197
    03/07/12 New Orleans W 99-98 Regular Season L -5

    SEE that game before playing the champs no cover win against the lowly Hornets then step up wack out the champs as a small dog next game home vs Hawks CRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH & Burn !

    Blazers

    02/14/12 Washington L 109-124 Regular Season L -15

     long after this upset by wiz @ Wash

    03/10/12 @ Washington W 110-99 Regular Season W -5.5 O 200.5

     sure enough after avenging that loss

    03/13/12 @ Indiana L 75-92 Regular Season L 3.5

    THE Magic after Beating Rival Heat

    03/13/12 Miami W 104-98 (OT) Regular Season W 4 O 189

    03/14/12 @ San Antonio L 111-122 Regular Season L 7.5 O 192.5

    OF course on a b 2b got creamed at the spurs

    76ers very consistent year after year after beating hated rival in divison the Knicks and vice versa Knicks after losing to 76ers Kaboomie

    03/11/12 @ New York W 106-94 Regular Season W 2.5 O 194.5

     

    03/14/12 @ Indiana L 94-111 Regular Season L -1 O 185

    I don't know when they were favored -1 I had pacers - 1 game was over in 3rd quarter

    OK thats 4 teams in same situation all 100% results s/u and ATS

    just NBA and this is daily not weekly !

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:04 PM ET #2

    I got Azarenka over Sharapova, parlayed with louisville and Fl. St.  Yesterday won with Sharapova and Xavier.  Maria already lost to Victoria in the Aussie Open.  I lost that final.
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    I got Azarenka over Sharapova, parlayed with louisville and Fl. St.  Yesterday won with Sharapova and Xavier.  Maria already lost to Victoria in the Aussie Open.  I lost that final.
     
    Johnnythunders
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:24 PM ET #3

    NFL last Year

    Ravens of course 1st time ever wacking out BIG Ben Steelers 35 - 7 

    Next Game Trap city - 6 at Titans S/U loss 13-26

    Some People say this game was fixed BUT NO the Ravens trend after a bye week win are just CHOKE City

    1st off look at 3 games before this

    @ rams win huge 37-7 vs jets win huge 39-17 vs houston after bye week win huge 29-14

    OMFG are you kidding me they scored 105 points in 3 games emptying the offensive gas tank nothing left to give !

    NOW you ask a team to go on the Road on MNF where they really suck under the lights -10 points @ Jaguars and try to cover or win vs a team with very stingy defense !

    and everybody Plus thier Grandma was on the ravens even the ESPN and NFL Network guys picked Ravens in blow out win !

    KABOOM a s/u loss 12-7

    Ravens next game Before steelers away vs a bad cardinals team favored by 12 1/2 ??? wait a min THEY just lost as a 10 point chalk now you make them a 12.5 point favorite at home !

    OMG they almost the game 30-27 win

    THEN next win 1st time ever a DOG win +3 1/2 at BIG BENS Steelers !23-20

    THEN the Trap game came up wow i couldnt wait to hammer The Seahawks +7 points at home vs this let down team.

    I LOOKED at thier schedule who was up Next ? The Red Hot Bengals thier div rival !

    Seahawks kicked that Ravens tail wire to wire 22-17 !

    NEXT team the biggest Emotional crash ever

    THE Buffalo Bills 9/25 vs Patriots after trailing 21-0 mount a huge comeback win and for 1st time in 16 matchups Beat thier DIV rival !

    whoooo boy on the Road favored by 3 points at Bengals

    licking my chops a s/u loss 20-23

    game was not that close thier was garbage time TD by bills

    THE Fucking Eagles i dont what it is with this team but any time they hammer thier old most hated Rival the Cowboys

    some reson they flat out get snoked next game 1

    Sure after thier bye week i took the birds - 3 1/2 vs dallas

    huge win 34-7 a joke !

    Next game at Home MNF vs the WINNING Bears and known fact Mike Vick was 0-3 vs The Bears his whole carreer!

    Eagles - 8 points KABOOM s/u loss  24 -30

    Now why in gods name on a short week were they so heavily favored vs The cardinals - 14 1/2 another s/u loss

    17-21

    THE Square bet sucker trap of all time game !

    People forget no team in NFL is as bad or as Good last week than this week ! THEY have short memories !

    THE BUCS after beating falcons 16-13 flkat out stunk it up at home -10 vs the Colts 24-17  losing the whole game 1

    Then before playing saints @ the 49ers GET thier teeth kicked in thier worst lost ever 48-3

    Back home the saints on 3rd st road game barely squeaked a no cover win at Panthers losing the whole game won by 3 points !

    I was in partner with friend from internet in The Hilton contest helping Him pick games HE loved the Saints -4 points I screamed at Him JEFF no way they are going to lose this game YOUR playing the square here wake UP He said no they always win at Tampa ! I said but it's thier 3rd st road game they beat two no body losing teams !

    NOPE he put it in; BUCS won the game as a 4 point dog 26-20

    Knew this was coming Tim tebow after mounting a come back win at Dolphins in front of his old school team mates and alma mater losing 15-0  win it in OT The TEBOW Kneel Down begins !

    Next game at home vs the Lions i said ok Lions - 3 1/2

    sure enough CRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    45-10 ass whipping

    UPset the Champs in NFL next game vs anyone BYE BYE !

    KC only team to pull it off

    OF course week before got smoked @ Jets 37-10 they suck vs AFC east teams anayway but i saw KC playing vanilla in that game knowing full well they had the Champs up next at home BINGO +14  dog wins the game 19-14

    Home next week vs rival raiders -2 points Raiders won s/u in OT 16-13

     

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    NFL last Year

    Ravens of course 1st time ever wacking out BIG Ben Steelers 35 - 7 

    Next Game Trap city - 6 at Titans S/U loss 13-26

    Some People say this game was fixed BUT NO the Ravens trend after a bye week win are just CHOKE City

    1st off look at 3 games before this

    @ rams win huge 37-7 vs jets win huge 39-17 vs houston after bye week win huge 29-14

    OMFG are you kidding me they scored 105 points in 3 games emptying the offensive gas tank nothing left to give !

    NOW you ask a team to go on the Road on MNF where they really suck under the lights -10 points @ Jaguars and try to cover or win vs a team with very stingy defense !

    and everybody Plus thier Grandma was on the ravens even the ESPN and NFL Network guys picked Ravens in blow out win !

    KABOOM a s/u loss 12-7

    Ravens next game Before steelers away vs a bad cardinals team favored by 12 1/2 ??? wait a min THEY just lost as a 10 point chalk now you make them a 12.5 point favorite at home !

    OMG they almost the game 30-27 win

    THEN next win 1st time ever a DOG win +3 1/2 at BIG BENS Steelers !23-20

    THEN the Trap game came up wow i couldnt wait to hammer The Seahawks +7 points at home vs this let down team.

    I LOOKED at thier schedule who was up Next ? The Red Hot Bengals thier div rival !

    Seahawks kicked that Ravens tail wire to wire 22-17 !

    NEXT team the biggest Emotional crash ever

    THE Buffalo Bills 9/25 vs Patriots after trailing 21-0 mount a huge comeback win and for 1st time in 16 matchups Beat thier DIV rival !

    whoooo boy on the Road favored by 3 points at Bengals

    licking my chops a s/u loss 20-23

    game was not that close thier was garbage time TD by bills

    THE Fucking Eagles i dont what it is with this team but any time they hammer thier old most hated Rival the Cowboys

    some reson they flat out get snoked next game 1

    Sure after thier bye week i took the birds - 3 1/2 vs dallas

    huge win 34-7 a joke !

    Next game at Home MNF vs the WINNING Bears and known fact Mike Vick was 0-3 vs The Bears his whole carreer!

    Eagles - 8 points KABOOM s/u loss  24 -30

    Now why in gods name on a short week were they so heavily favored vs The cardinals - 14 1/2 another s/u loss

    17-21

    THE Square bet sucker trap of all time game !

    People forget no team in NFL is as bad or as Good last week than this week ! THEY have short memories !

    THE BUCS after beating falcons 16-13 flkat out stunk it up at home -10 vs the Colts 24-17  losing the whole game 1

    Then before playing saints @ the 49ers GET thier teeth kicked in thier worst lost ever 48-3

    Back home the saints on 3rd st road game barely squeaked a no cover win at Panthers losing the whole game won by 3 points !

    I was in partner with friend from internet in The Hilton contest helping Him pick games HE loved the Saints -4 points I screamed at Him JEFF no way they are going to lose this game YOUR playing the square here wake UP He said no they always win at Tampa ! I said but it's thier 3rd st road game they beat two no body losing teams !

    NOPE he put it in; BUCS won the game as a 4 point dog 26-20

    Knew this was coming Tim tebow after mounting a come back win at Dolphins in front of his old school team mates and alma mater losing 15-0  win it in OT The TEBOW Kneel Down begins !

    Next game at home vs the Lions i said ok Lions - 3 1/2

    sure enough CRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    45-10 ass whipping

    UPset the Champs in NFL next game vs anyone BYE BYE !

    KC only team to pull it off

    OF course week before got smoked @ Jets 37-10 they suck vs AFC east teams anayway but i saw KC playing vanilla in that game knowing full well they had the Champs up next at home BINGO +14  dog wins the game 19-14

    Home next week vs rival raiders -2 points Raiders won s/u in OT 16-13

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:56 PM ET #4

    So you're suggesting the Mavs will pillage the Spurs today??
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:56 PM ET #5

    ShadowWarrior ok i know nothing of tennis but you picked up revenge game for that person !

    happens in College sports also some games are honest while the other 35% are truly fixed by outside sources or within the team players and coaches ! Been going on in all college sports since 1952 !

    FIXED game i almsot feel for way back in 2001 Miami Canes - 28-1/2 @ the PITSS Panthers

    how did i know game was fixed ?

    1st off only game on national TV thursday night #1 ranked team vs an unranked team ! Spread jumped 6 points 22 1/2 up to 28 1/2

    I knew nothing of College foots but friend of mines talked me into placing this bet with his local buddy !

    I said no thanks he screams it's a lock i said ok call him first but i want to hear what he says after you bet it !

    Sure enough the Old local trick fuck talk you into a loser !

    HE told him sure looks a winner to me i dont even know why i got this game up on the board !

    LMFAO I said TY ANTHony I called up my sports book asked what the line was said gimmie that puppie for $1000 to win $900

    Lady operator even told me i had winner OOO YOU want this DOG ?

    YES i Said the PUTS Panthers + 28 1/2 points she reapeats

    the wager i give my pin and confirm it ! 

    Home later watching the game while online LIVE on TV the bigest FIX ever i saw in my life  final 2:30 of game Panthers get ball at thier own 5 yard line !

    losing by 29 points no way can than win why are they even trying to score ?

    MY friend on the phone with me after 30 secs elapsed Said see i told u winner i said hold on Buddy it aint over yet watch the fuck you in the ass fix YOU just got !

    Sure enough PASS interference 2nd play panthers on the 40 yard line now !

    I'm humming on the phone clock is tickiing slower than mollasses in january 1:15 2nd pass interfernce call Panther now on the 30 yard line wait a min hold it ! Time out  Canes ! they were on heels !

    gasping ! fuck it game was over they goona let em score any way !

    NO they tried to stop it pas in end zone i'm watching defender jump up clean knock the ball out of WR hand from behind him !

    14 fucking flags come in PASS Interference call # 3

    LOL

     

    5 secs left on clock TOUCH DOwn Canes won by 21 !  43 - 21 PLFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I go to HIM on the Phone he say holy fuck your right the fix was in !

    Yeah i won $900 YOU lost $550 he he he he he !

    BUT sometimes it 's honest teams just hit let dwon spots vs a weak team after beating top ranked teams hevyily favored on short week thursday night game spread jumps up 5 points i say hm i'll take this home puppie !

    Couldnt get money line on a 25 1/2 point dog but boy they barked they won the game s/u !

    Emotional wins let downs happen every day in all sports !

    Get into the teams mind set how are they thinking put yourself  in thier shoes !

     

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    ShadowWarrior ok i know nothing of tennis but you picked up revenge game for that person !

    happens in College sports also some games are honest while the other 35% are truly fixed by outside sources or within the team players and coaches ! Been going on in all college sports since 1952 !

    FIXED game i almsot feel for way back in 2001 Miami Canes - 28-1/2 @ the PITSS Panthers

    how did i know game was fixed ?

    1st off only game on national TV thursday night #1 ranked team vs an unranked team ! Spread jumped 6 points 22 1/2 up to 28 1/2

    I knew nothing of College foots but friend of mines talked me into placing this bet with his local buddy !

    I said no thanks he screams it's a lock i said ok call him first but i want to hear what he says after you bet it !

    Sure enough the Old local trick fuck talk you into a loser !

    HE told him sure looks a winner to me i dont even know why i got this game up on the board !

    LMFAO I said TY ANTHony I called up my sports book asked what the line was said gimmie that puppie for $1000 to win $900

    Lady operator even told me i had winner OOO YOU want this DOG ?

    YES i Said the PUTS Panthers + 28 1/2 points she reapeats

    the wager i give my pin and confirm it ! 

    Home later watching the game while online LIVE on TV the bigest FIX ever i saw in my life  final 2:30 of game Panthers get ball at thier own 5 yard line !

    losing by 29 points no way can than win why are they even trying to score ?

    MY friend on the phone with me after 30 secs elapsed Said see i told u winner i said hold on Buddy it aint over yet watch the fuck you in the ass fix YOU just got !

    Sure enough PASS interference 2nd play panthers on the 40 yard line now !

    I'm humming on the phone clock is tickiing slower than mollasses in january 1:15 2nd pass interfernce call Panther now on the 30 yard line wait a min hold it ! Time out  Canes ! they were on heels !

    gasping ! fuck it game was over they goona let em score any way !

    NO they tried to stop it pas in end zone i'm watching defender jump up clean knock the ball out of WR hand from behind him !

    14 fucking flags come in PASS Interference call # 3

    LOL

     

    5 secs left on clock TOUCH DOwn Canes won by 21 !  43 - 21 PLFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I go to HIM on the Phone he say holy fuck your right the fix was in !

    Yeah i won $900 YOU lost $550 he he he he he !

    BUT sometimes it 's honest teams just hit let dwon spots vs a weak team after beating top ranked teams hevyily favored on short week thursday night game spread jumps up 5 points i say hm i'll take this home puppie !

    Couldnt get money line on a 25 1/2 point dog but boy they barked they won the game s/u !

    Emotional wins let downs happen every day in all sports !

    Get into the teams mind set how are they thinking put yourself  in thier shoes !

     

     
    Johnnythunders
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 12:58 PM ET #6

    The__Man maybe maybe not will have to see the game the line i haven't looked at it  yet !

    Not suggesting any thing These are result i show 100% winners when it's EMOTIONAL let downs !

     

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    The__Man maybe maybe not will have to see the game the line i haven't looked at it  yet !

    Not suggesting any thing These are result i show 100% winners when it's EMOTIONAL let downs !

     

     
    bettor2win
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 1:25 PM ET #7

    whats your next play today then?
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    whats your next play today then?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 1:58 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    whats your next play today then?

    like your talk b2w ..... straight to the point 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    whats your next play today then?

    like your talk b2w ..... straight to the point 
     
    Mr_Ranch
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 2:23 PM ET #9

    this dude talks way too much. Post winners or 
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    this dude talks way too much. Post winners or 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 5:41 PM ET #10

    Ur right! I think we ALL could talk smack like this. I see he isnt responding. Yet he said everyday there's plays like this. Show us the money! Put your money where your mouth is.
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    Ur right! I think we ALL could talk smack like this. I see he isnt responding. Yet he said everyday there's plays like this. Show us the money! Put your money where your mouth is.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2012 - 7:02 PM ET #11

    OK dummies this is the systems and strategies section am i right after reading rules about to post plays in the NBA forum or other forums !

    SO go the fuck over to NBA forum and see MY posted plays !

    BTW where am i talking Smack ?

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    OK dummies this is the systems and strategies section am i right after reading rules about to post plays in the NBA forum or other forums !

    SO go the fuck over to NBA forum and see MY posted plays !

    BTW where am i talking Smack ?

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnythunders:

    OK dummies this is the systems and strategies section am i right after reading rules about to post plays in the NBA forum or other forums !

    SO go the fuck over to NBA forum and see MY posted plays !

    BTW where am i talking Smack ?


    Hmm, I see you're still talking... 

    No one cares how long you've been doing this or past examples. 

    Let your plays do the talking for you. It's fine to post plays in here. No need to have 2 separate threads discussing the same shit. 

    As I said, post winners or  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnythunders:

    OK dummies this is the systems and strategies section am i right after reading rules about to post plays in the NBA forum or other forums !

    SO go the fuck over to NBA forum and see MY posted plays !

    BTW where am i talking Smack ?


    Hmm, I see you're still talking... 

    No one cares how long you've been doing this or past examples. 

    Let your plays do the talking for you. It's fine to post plays in here. No need to have 2 separate threads discussing the same shit. 

    As I said, post winners or  
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