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    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN how panamericana has picked games higher then -130 ?

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    Classof78
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 3:06 PM ET #1

    On 5/22 he won with WASH @ -145, on 5/17 he won with OAK @ -159 and on 5/8 he won with SD @ -150. HOW did he even see these games to make these picks, they never should have been available to choose, right ?
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    On 5/22 he won with WASH @ -145, on 5/17 he won with OAK @ -159 and on 5/8 he won with SD @ -150. HOW did he even see these games to make these picks, they never should have been available to choose, right ?
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 3:46 PM ET #2

    IS there anybody, out there ?

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    IS there anybody, out there ?

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #3

    7 of his 15 wins on his streak are in the -131 or greater range. Is this the 1st user in the history of the game to make a pick above -130 (let alone 7)? I'm sure he's violating the rules in the process.
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    7 of his 15 wins on his streak are in the -131 or greater range. Is this the 1st user in the history of the game to make a pick above -130 (let alone 7)? I'm sure he's violating the rules in the process.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 5:52 PM ET #4

    VERY very strange Quad17, I agree. How did they even appear, for him to pick.  Did he hack some how, so he was able to see games over -130 ?
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    VERY very strange Quad17, I agree. How did they even appear, for him to pick.  Did he hack some how, so he was able to see games over -130 ?
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 9:54 PM ET #5

    Go to the scores tab and look up the dates for his picks.  Check out  the lines from Pinnacle.  All of those games opened up below -130.  This guy is catching these games early when they first come out,  which is smart.  And obviously he knows his shit because of those line moves.  The contest odds are coming from pinnacle.  The guy seems patient,  looking for his spots and cashing in. 

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    Go to the scores tab and look up the dates for his picks.  Check out  the lines from Pinnacle.  All of those games opened up below -130.  This guy is catching these games early when they first come out,  which is smart.  And obviously he knows his shit because of those line moves.  The contest odds are coming from pinnacle.  The guy seems patient,  looking for his spots and cashing in. 

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 9:59 PM ET #6

    What I don't get is why they don't show the current line of the team he picks.............

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    What I don't get is why they don't show the current line of the team he picks.............

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2010 - 10:03 PM ET #7

    I don't know.  I can't find anyone else with lines showing over -130 as their picks.........   one hockey at -131.

     

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    I don't know.  I can't find anyone else with lines showing over -130 as their picks.........   one hockey at -131.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2010 - 1:11 PM ET #8

    IF he would have picked these games when they opened @ -130 or less, it would show that, IT doesn't crushalot22. It shows his picks, with 7 out of 15 of them, over -130. I'm still trying to figure out how he even saw these games, when they were over -130.
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    IF he would have picked these games when they opened @ -130 or less, it would show that, IT doesn't crushalot22. It shows his picks, with 7 out of 15 of them, over -130. I'm still trying to figure out how he even saw these games, when they were over -130.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2010 - 5:37 PM ET #9

    He picked them before they were over -130........thus some were over -130 at game time.
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    He picked them before they were over -130........thus some were over -130 at game time.
     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2010 - 10:19 PM ET #10

    Tuppy, that's BS, if he picked them before they went over -130, then it would say that, the lines don't change on your pick page after you pick them. If I pick a team @ -129 and then 10 minutes later it goes up to - 134, you don't see -134 on my pick page, you see -129. He has a -159, if he picked OAK like you say, when it was -130 or less, why would his pick for OAK be listed at -159.
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    Tuppy, that's BS, if he picked them before they went over -130, then it would say that, the lines don't change on your pick page after you pick them. If I pick a team @ -129 and then 10 minutes later it goes up to - 134, you don't see -134 on my pick page, you see -129. He has a -159, if he picked OAK like you say, when it was -130 or less, why would his pick for OAK be listed at -159.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 5:08 AM ET #11

    OK mate  i was just trying to think of alternative reasons.
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    OK mate  i was just trying to think of alternative reasons.
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 10:04 AM ET #12

    We're looking into all this guys.

    I'll get back to you when we find out more.


    -Rizz
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    We're looking into all this guys.

    I'll get back to you when we find out more.


    -Rizz
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 11:42 AM ET #13

    "Tuppy, that's BS, if he picked them before they went over -130, then it would say that, the lines don't change on your pick page after you pick them. If I pick a team @ -129 and then 10 minutes later it goes up to - 134, you don't see -134 on my pick page, you see -129"

    Gentlemen,
    The lines do change,both ways...
    An example:
    I`m still undecided about Chicago-Pittsburgh game today.I picked this game at -130 few hours ago but now when I`m about to play it the line moved to -131

    Monday, May 31
    Chi. Cubs vs. Pittsburgh

    Starters: R. Wells vs. R. Ohlendorf
    Away Line Home Line 1:35 PM Chi. Cubs -131   Pittsburgh +123  

    Hope it helps...
    Best regards

    panamericana









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    "Tuppy, that's BS, if he picked them before they went over -130, then it would say that, the lines don't change on your pick page after you pick them. If I pick a team @ -129 and then 10 minutes later it goes up to - 134, you don't see -134 on my pick page, you see -129"

    Gentlemen,
    The lines do change,both ways...
    An example:
    I`m still undecided about Chicago-Pittsburgh game today.I picked this game at -130 few hours ago but now when I`m about to play it the line moved to -131

    Monday, May 31
    Chi. Cubs vs. Pittsburgh

    Starters: R. Wells vs. R. Ohlendorf
    Away Line Home Line 1:35 PM Chi. Cubs -131   Pittsburgh +123  

    Hope it helps...
    Best regards

    panamericana









     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 12:47 PM ET #14

    Yeah, no kidding the lines change, I'm not saying they don't....but if you didn't pick the CUBS when they were at -130, you shouldn't see them anymore on the pick page once the line moved to -131 or higher. READ the rules, please !  Also, if you picked the Cubs, like you say, when they were at -130, why did you wait for the line to move to -131, before you played it ?                                   
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    Yeah, no kidding the lines change, I'm not saying they don't....but if you didn't pick the CUBS when they were at -130, you shouldn't see them anymore on the pick page once the line moved to -131 or higher. READ the rules, please !  Also, if you picked the Cubs, like you say, when they were at -130, why did you wait for the line to move to -131, before you played it ?                                   
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 1:50 PM ET #15

    "if you picked the Cubs, like you say, when they were at -130, why did you wait for the line to move to -131, before you played it ?  "

    I worry about picking the right game from what is available,nothing else...I STUDY THESE GAMES,not the lines.I don`t have a control where they end up.You can do the same...
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    "if you picked the Cubs, like you say, when they were at -130, why did you wait for the line to move to -131, before you played it ?  "

    I worry about picking the right game from what is available,nothing else...I STUDY THESE GAMES,not the lines.I don`t have a control where they end up.You can do the same...
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 5:08 PM ET #16

    THANKS Rizzo, I was going to call you today, like the guy who answered the phone yesterday suggested, but I guess I don't have to now, since you are looking into it. My question is, are there time stamps when someone makes a pick, if so, I'm sure you can determine if his picks were made when the lines were -130 or less, but like I said before, it would say that if he did so.               P.S. panamericana, ARE you retarted ? You have seven games on your survivor picks history page that no one else even saw, once the line moved above -130. YOU have Oak @ -159 and SD @ -150 when the rules state, you will not be able to pick a game, when the line goes over -130 !!!!! 
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    THANKS Rizzo, I was going to call you today, like the guy who answered the phone yesterday suggested, but I guess I don't have to now, since you are looking into it. My question is, are there time stamps when someone makes a pick, if so, I'm sure you can determine if his picks were made when the lines were -130 or less, but like I said before, it would say that if he did so.               P.S. panamericana, ARE you retarted ? You have seven games on your survivor picks history page that no one else even saw, once the line moved above -130. YOU have Oak @ -159 and SD @ -150 when the rules state, you will not be able to pick a game, when the line goes over -130 !!!!! 
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 6:34 PM ET #17

    etc...
    I picked these games early and after studying them for few hours  I played them(press-submit button),no magic here..I don` t pay attention to what happens to the line moves afterwards,it doesn`t help you with anything.You can do it too...
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    etc...
    I picked these games early and after studying them for few hours  I played them(press-submit button),no magic here..I don` t pay attention to what happens to the line moves afterwards,it doesn`t help you with anything.You can do it too...
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 6:38 PM ET #18

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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 6:42 PM ET #19

     I tried to copy and paste it,no idea why it doesn`t show.
    Anyway,you can go back to check the covers line moves

    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=295392&sport=mlb
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     I tried to copy and paste it,no idea why it doesn`t show.
    Anyway,you can go back to check the covers line moves

    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=295392&sport=mlb
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 7:14 PM ET #20

    I tried to explain that all these games started at below -130.  For whatever reason it is showing the closing line on your picks. 

    All I know is you are picking winners.  Maybe a little less bitching ladies and put some money on his selections. 

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    I tried to explain that all these games started at below -130.  For whatever reason it is showing the closing line on your picks. 

    All I know is you are picking winners.  Maybe a little less bitching ladies and put some money on his selections. 

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 7:48 PM ET #21

    I'm sure it goes like this.  Let's use the May 17 example.

    The guy opens a Survivor picks page on May 16 before 6:36 PM.
    Oakland was -130 or -129, so it was displayed on that picks page.

    He comes back next day -- with the picks page still open and not
    refreshed -- selects Oakland on that picks page and submits it
    between 2:36 PM and 7:26 PM.  When the pick is submitted, it
    gets processed with the current line from the web feed (which was
    -159).

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    I'm sure it goes like this.  Let's use the May 17 example.

    The guy opens a Survivor picks page on May 16 before 6:36 PM.
    Oakland was -130 or -129, so it was displayed on that picks page.

    He comes back next day -- with the picks page still open and not
    refreshed -- selects Oakland on that picks page and submits it
    between 2:36 PM and 7:26 PM.  When the pick is submitted, it
    gets processed with the current line from the web feed (which was
    -159).

     
    h3llbent
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    Posted: May. 31, 2010 - 8:19 PM ET #22

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    DannoDanger
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2010 - 7:01 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Loco-D:

    I'm sure it goes like this.  Let's use the May 17 example.

    The guy opens a Survivor picks page on May 16 before 6:36 PM.
    Oakland was -130 or -129, so it was displayed on that picks page.

    He comes back next day -- with the picks page still open and not
    refreshed -- selects Oakland on that picks page and submits it
    between 2:36 PM and 7:26 PM.  When the pick is submitted, it
    gets processed with the current line from the web feed (which was
    -159).

    I tried this last night as a test and it didn't work.  It's possible that I didn't do exactly what you were trying to explain, but here's what I did:

    Opened a picks page Monday night, and clicked on the Astros game at -120.  Didn't make a selection, but left the window open overnight.  On Tuesday morning, I selected the Astros on the previously open window.  Once I submitted my pick, it showed my selection as the Astros -125, NOT the -120 that they were in the window I selected them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loco-D:

    I'm sure it goes like this.  Let's use the May 17 example.

    The guy opens a Survivor picks page on May 16 before 6:36 PM.
    Oakland was -130 or -129, so it was displayed on that picks page.

    He comes back next day -- with the picks page still open and not
    refreshed -- selects Oakland on that picks page and submits it
    between 2:36 PM and 7:26 PM.  When the pick is submitted, it
    gets processed with the current line from the web feed (which was
    -159).

    I tried this last night as a test and it didn't work.  It's possible that I didn't do exactly what you were trying to explain, but here's what I did:

    Opened a picks page Monday night, and clicked on the Astros game at -120.  Didn't make a selection, but left the window open overnight.  On Tuesday morning, I selected the Astros on the previously open window.  Once I submitted my pick, it showed my selection as the Astros -125, NOT the -120 that they were in the window I selected them in.

     
    stikymess
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2010 - 12:27 PM ET #24

           Maybe what ever filter is used for Survivor isn't in place or working with his account. I'm guessing he isn't doing it on purpose, since Wagerline could say well right in the rules it states blah blah blah -130. So he would be F'n himself and the streak would be/could be void.

          I think going forward let him keep his streak, but sort out what is going on. Make it an even playing field for everyone.

         Nothing against Pan, i hope he goes on and wins it all.

     

     

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           Maybe what ever filter is used for Survivor isn't in place or working with his account. I'm guessing he isn't doing it on purpose, since Wagerline could say well right in the rules it states blah blah blah -130. So he would be F'n himself and the streak would be/could be void.

          I think going forward let him keep his streak, but sort out what is going on. Make it an even playing field for everyone.

         Nothing against Pan, i hope he goes on and wins it all.

     

     

     
     
    lightsout2184
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2010 - 1:15 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I tried this last night as a test and it didn't work.  It's possible that I didn't do exactly what you were trying to explain, but here's what I did:

    Opened a picks page Monday night, and clicked on the Astros game at -120.  Didn't make a selection, but left the window open overnight.  On Tuesday morning, I selected the Astros on the previously open window.  Once I submitted my pick, it showed my selection as the Astros -125, NOT the -120 that they were in the window I selected them in.



    thats exactly what he said dork lol. he is saying the guy left it open at -130 and when he clicked it the next day it showed at -159 not the -130 on what he clicked on just like u just stated. thats how he was getting those picks in
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I tried this last night as a test and it didn't work.  It's possible that I didn't do exactly what you were trying to explain, but here's what I did:

    Opened a picks page Monday night, and clicked on the Astros game at -120.  Didn't make a selection, but left the window open overnight.  On Tuesday morning, I selected the Astros on the previously open window.  Once I submitted my pick, it showed my selection as the Astros -125, NOT the -120 that they were in the window I selected them in.



    thats exactly what he said dork lol. he is saying the guy left it open at -130 and when he clicked it the next day it showed at -159 not the -130 on what he clicked on just like u just stated. thats how he was getting those picks in
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