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    Crusher13
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 3:06 PM ET #951

    Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:


    That's right.  You came in here all by yourself.  No one held a gun to your head and made you tail this guy.  You are choosing which bets to make with your own money.  Win or lose, you have no one to congratulate or blame but yourself.  Grow a pair and take responsibility for your own actions.



    VAN has been courteous to come onto Covers to offer his opinions and communicate his plays/leans on all these matches..take away your own decisions or his input but NEVER "blindly" TAIL   ANYBODY here on COVERS 


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    Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:


    That's right.  You came in here all by yourself.  No one held a gun to your head and made you tail this guy.  You are choosing which bets to make with your own money.  Win or lose, you have no one to congratulate or blame but yourself.  Grow a pair and take responsibility for your own actions.



    VAN has been courteous to come onto Covers to offer his opinions and communicate his plays/leans on all these matches..take away your own decisions or his input but NEVER "blindly" TAIL   ANYBODY here on COVERS 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 3:54 PM ET #952

    Why has the Belgium line gone from -147 to -111? Should I be concerned ?
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    Why has the Belgium line gone from -147 to -111? Should I be concerned ?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 3:57 PM ET #953

    Because they are playing with a few substitutes. You can consider them as worse now, but I see the value on this pick. I like Januzaj and I like Dembele aswell. I don't think it will be a miss playing without hazard or lukaku.
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    Because they are playing with a few substitutes. You can consider them as worse now, but I see the value on this pick. I like Januzaj and I like Dembele aswell. I don't think it will be a miss playing without hazard or lukaku.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 5:02 PM ET #954

    Mr. Vanzack is a class act & has been contributing for a long time. He is good at what he does. Period. I sincerely hope he doesn't feed too much into what the losers have to say because the people that appreciate his input truly value all the insight.
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    Mr. Vanzack is a class act & has been contributing for a long time. He is good at what he does. Period. I sincerely hope he doesn't feed too much into what the losers have to say because the people that appreciate his input truly value all the insight.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 5:19 PM ET #955

    I never said ONE NEGATIVE thing about VAN. I'm sure he's a swell guy and USUALLY does good. This world cup, he hasnt. I simply stated facts. If you dont like it, dont read it and dont respond. I didnt make up 1 false statement. The truth speaks for itself.........

    Remember, #'s dont lie.......
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    I never said ONE NEGATIVE thing about VAN. I'm sure he's a swell guy and USUALLY does good. This world cup, he hasnt. I simply stated facts. If you dont like it, dont read it and dont respond. I didnt make up 1 false statement. The truth speaks for itself.........

    Remember, #'s dont lie.......
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 5:56 PM ET #956

    Fuckin Akinfeev.

    That Russian GK cost me a lot of money this tournament.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Fuckin Akinfeev.

    That Russian GK cost me a lot of money this tournament.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 5:58 PM ET #957

    Looks like a HT/FT wager on Draw/Belgium is in order for the playoffs Rd1. The USA to fade away in the second half.
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    Looks like a HT/FT wager on Draw/Belgium is in order for the playoffs Rd1. The USA to fade away in the second half.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:00 PM ET #958

    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:

    I never said ONE NEGATIVE thing about VAN. I'm sure he's a swell guy and USUALLY does good. This world cup, he hasnt. I simply stated facts. If you dont like it, dont read it and dont respond. I didnt make up 1 false statement. The truth speaks for itself.........

    Remember, #'s dont lie.......

    You're a douchebag!  Just stating a fact!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:

    I never said ONE NEGATIVE thing about VAN. I'm sure he's a swell guy and USUALLY does good. This world cup, he hasnt. I simply stated facts. If you dont like it, dont read it and dont respond. I didnt make up 1 false statement. The truth speaks for itself.........

    Remember, #'s dont lie.......

    You're a douchebag!  Just stating a fact!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:05 PM ET #959

    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Well, I'm alerting people who like myself, came in here 'blindly', and followed and have lost 10+ units.

    Just telling would be followers, to heed caution. Nothing more, nothing less. Call me the police, whatever, i'm looking out for my fellow gambler.......

    You don't have to alert anyone. 

    I alert everyone every day.

    My record and picks couldn't be more clear.  Now....  I am tallying up my running record and futures.

    I really keep quiet about people like you - but you are exactly the type of cancer that keeps the overall quality at covers just under the moron level.  You add nothing, you only take - and when your taking doesn't go the way you want it to - you lash out at the ones who give.  I don't have a crystal ball. 

    Try making your own thread and posting every play you make for the WC.  I will be the first to compliment you.  And the fuckin tournament isn't even over yet - I have a future that could win 25 units - and there are 16 games left.

    So just buzz off and see how you do by yourself.  Predicting the future is difficult, but you wouldn't know that because you never try....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Well, I'm alerting people who like myself, came in here 'blindly', and followed and have lost 10+ units.

    Just telling would be followers, to heed caution. Nothing more, nothing less. Call me the police, whatever, i'm looking out for my fellow gambler.......

    You don't have to alert anyone. 

    I alert everyone every day.

    My record and picks couldn't be more clear.  Now....  I am tallying up my running record and futures.

    I really keep quiet about people like you - but you are exactly the type of cancer that keeps the overall quality at covers just under the moron level.  You add nothing, you only take - and when your taking doesn't go the way you want it to - you lash out at the ones who give.  I don't have a crystal ball. 

    Try making your own thread and posting every play you make for the WC.  I will be the first to compliment you.  And the fuckin tournament isn't even over yet - I have a future that could win 25 units - and there are 16 games left.

    So just buzz off and see how you do by yourself.  Predicting the future is difficult, but you wouldn't know that because you never try....

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:09 PM ET #960

    Amazing the Russian keeper. What a terrible play on the ball.

    Very pleased to get a result out of that Belgium match. Keep it up mang.
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    Amazing the Russian keeper. What a terrible play on the ball.

    Very pleased to get a result out of that Belgium match. Keep it up mang.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:11 PM ET #961

    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Well, I'm alerting people who like myself, came in here 'blindly', and followed and have lost 10+ units.

    Just telling would be followers, to heed caution. Nothing more, nothing less. Call me the police, whatever, i'm looking out for my fellow gambler.......

    Oh.... And one more thing while we are at it....

    Overall - in this WC so far - clearly anyone taking the games I bet got better lines than what I posted overall.  Most line moves made it cheaper to bet my plays - and I don't even post the lines I bet - I post what you can bet!!  I can usually bet these games at least 10 cents cheaper than people can bet at American books.

    Now - show me one other person at covers who does this.  Show me one person who gets -110 2 days ago but posts -140 now because that is what the line is at 5D.

    Also - it doesn't do many people any good to post 20 minutes before gametime what I pick.  So I put them up at least a day ahead of time - before line ups are out - late injury news - suspensions etc.  Try doing that.  But I do it because I don't use covers as my personal PR machine like most do here - "look at me look at me" - I post in the hopes that what I post is useful in making someone else money - period.

    But please - keep posting in my thread - and keep my record for me.  Irish Tim seems to have gone away - but I am glad you are here - as you say - TO BE THE POLICE AND KEEP ME HONEST.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



    Well, I'm alerting people who like myself, came in here 'blindly', and followed and have lost 10+ units.

    Just telling would be followers, to heed caution. Nothing more, nothing less. Call me the police, whatever, i'm looking out for my fellow gambler.......

    Oh.... And one more thing while we are at it....

    Overall - in this WC so far - clearly anyone taking the games I bet got better lines than what I posted overall.  Most line moves made it cheaper to bet my plays - and I don't even post the lines I bet - I post what you can bet!!  I can usually bet these games at least 10 cents cheaper than people can bet at American books.

    Now - show me one other person at covers who does this.  Show me one person who gets -110 2 days ago but posts -140 now because that is what the line is at 5D.

    Also - it doesn't do many people any good to post 20 minutes before gametime what I pick.  So I put them up at least a day ahead of time - before line ups are out - late injury news - suspensions etc.  Try doing that.  But I do it because I don't use covers as my personal PR machine like most do here - "look at me look at me" - I post in the hopes that what I post is useful in making someone else money - period.

    But please - keep posting in my thread - and keep my record for me.  Irish Tim seems to have gone away - but I am glad you are here - as you say - TO BE THE POLICE AND KEEP ME HONEST.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:15 PM ET #962

    Keep up the hard work vanzack been watching your picks for years on covers 
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    Keep up the hard work vanzack been watching your picks for years on covers 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:18 PM ET #963

    OK - so the final tally through group matches...  Not so great...

    Game Bets:

    17.5 - 20 

    31.94 units up, 36.24 units down

    Overall 4.30 units down

     

    Futures:

    6.5 units down

    Pending:

    France to win WC +2500 (1 unit)
    France to reach quarterfinals +100 (1 unit)

     

     

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    OK - so the final tally through group matches...  Not so great...

    Game Bets:

    17.5 - 20 

    31.94 units up, 36.24 units down

    Overall 4.30 units down

     

    Futures:

    6.5 units down

    Pending:

    France to win WC +2500 (1 unit)
    France to reach quarterfinals +100 (1 unit)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:20 PM ET #964

    Thanks for everyone who commented in this thread.

    I am going to let this thread die and start a new thread for the knockout stage.  And don't worry Daytrader - I will clearly post my record that I carry with me.

    This thread has just become cumbersome, and I am inspired to start fresh and write up the tournament phase.

    GL to everyone.  Hope the next 16 games are profitable.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Thanks for everyone who commented in this thread.

    I am going to let this thread die and start a new thread for the knockout stage.  And don't worry Daytrader - I will clearly post my record that I carry with me.

    This thread has just become cumbersome, and I am inspired to start fresh and write up the tournament phase.

    GL to everyone.  Hope the next 16 games are profitable.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:22 PM ET #965

    Hey Vanzack. I really appreciate the time and effort you spend trying to help us make some extra cash. I was wondering if you could let me know when the best time is to lock in a bet?  I played Ghana and U.S.A. last night since I wasnt going to be up in time for the start of the game. I know there is a golden rule as every game is different in  terms of line movement but, any advice you can offer would be appreciated.  Thanks,  and good luck with the rest out the W.C. 
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    Hey Vanzack. I really appreciate the time and effort you spend trying to help us make some extra cash. I was wondering if you could let me know when the best time is to lock in a bet?  I played Ghana and U.S.A. last night since I wasnt going to be up in time for the start of the game. I know there is a golden rule as every game is different in  terms of line movement but, any advice you can offer would be appreciated.  Thanks,  and good luck with the rest out the W.C. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:23 PM ET #966

    This is what happens when Daytrader tries to score on Vanzack.

    https://i.imgur.com/wl0WVSO.gif

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    This is what happens when Daytrader tries to score on Vanzack.

    https://i.imgur.com/wl0WVSO.gif

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:24 PM ET #967

    Should say, * I know there  ISN'T* a golden rule 
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    Should say, * I know there  ISN'T* a golden rule 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:25 PM ET #968

    Quote Originally Posted by timbaland99:

    Hey Vanzack. I really appreciate the time and effort you spend trying to help us make some extra cash. I was wondering if you could let me know when the best time is to lock in a bet?  I played Ghana and U.S.A. last night since I wasnt going to be up in time for the start of the game. I know there is a golden rule as every game is different in  terms of line movement but, any advice you can offer would be appreciated.  Thanks,  and good luck with the rest out the W.C. 

    If this were American Football, or Club Soccer - I could tell you...

    But I have to be honest - WC soccer is very hard to predict line movement.  But like I said above - line ups are often key to determining picks - so if you are doing your own handicapping it always pays to start looking at about an hour before gametime.

    But there is no magic formula unfortunately.  I have gotten it wrong just as much as I have gotten it right in this WC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbaland99:

    Hey Vanzack. I really appreciate the time and effort you spend trying to help us make some extra cash. I was wondering if you could let me know when the best time is to lock in a bet?  I played Ghana and U.S.A. last night since I wasnt going to be up in time for the start of the game. I know there is a golden rule as every game is different in  terms of line movement but, any advice you can offer would be appreciated.  Thanks,  and good luck with the rest out the W.C. 

    If this were American Football, or Club Soccer - I could tell you...

    But I have to be honest - WC soccer is very hard to predict line movement.  But like I said above - line ups are often key to determining picks - so if you are doing your own handicapping it always pays to start looking at about an hour before gametime.

    But there is no magic formula unfortunately.  I have gotten it wrong just as much as I have gotten it right in this WC...

     
    Tien2262
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:36 PM ET #969

    Thanks van
    Fuk the haters bro
    I love your writeups bro

    Yeah, a new thread would be amazing for round 16

    Thanks
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    Thanks van
    Fuk the haters bro
    I love your writeups bro

    Yeah, a new thread would be amazing for round 16

    Thanks
     
    dimndimn
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 6:42 PM ET #970

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    This is what happens when Daytrader tries to score on Vanzack.

    https://i.imgur.com/wl0WVSO.gif



    Thanks for providing analysis for this cup, it's always appreciated to hear your thoughts and views.  Hopefully in the next thread people will be a little less self-centered and just keep the focus on analysis and Q&A.  Good luck. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    This is what happens when Daytrader tries to score on Vanzack.

    https://i.imgur.com/wl0WVSO.gif



    Thanks for providing analysis for this cup, it's always appreciated to hear your thoughts and views.  Hopefully in the next thread people will be a little less self-centered and just keep the focus on analysis and Q&A.  Good luck. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 7:16 PM ET #971

    Very impressed with your soccer insight
    I first started watching it 2010 World Cup
    I find it fascinating,but I'm just not to the stage where I can watch consecutive games.There is a reason that it's the #1 sport on the planet.To me its really hard to determine who are the really great players are.Van, How do u see the U.S matching up vs their sweet 16 matchup?
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    Very impressed with your soccer insight
    I first started watching it 2010 World Cup
    I find it fascinating,but I'm just not to the stage where I can watch consecutive games.There is a reason that it's the #1 sport on the planet.To me its really hard to determine who are the really great players are.Van, How do u see the U.S matching up vs their sweet 16 matchup?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 7:34 PM ET #972

    Tough thing about soccer is that one side can outplay the other side, control the ball and get some great playmaking and shots on goal, but the other side can get a goal on their fewer opportunities. Or get awarded a penalty kick or get a man advantage for 30-40 minutes.

    I know this can happen in other sports but it seems it happens more often in soccer and is harder to overcome because it is so hard to put it all together and connect on the goal.

    Still, I've enjoyed playing it for years and I enjoy watching the great ball-handling skills and speed and passing patterns.

    I'm just saying it must be one of the hardest sports to predict and bet the outcome. 

    GL!
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    Tough thing about soccer is that one side can outplay the other side, control the ball and get some great playmaking and shots on goal, but the other side can get a goal on their fewer opportunities. Or get awarded a penalty kick or get a man advantage for 30-40 minutes.

    I know this can happen in other sports but it seems it happens more often in soccer and is harder to overcome because it is so hard to put it all together and connect on the goal.

    Still, I've enjoyed playing it for years and I enjoy watching the great ball-handling skills and speed and passing patterns.

    I'm just saying it must be one of the hardest sports to predict and bet the outcome. 

    GL!
     
    scrappyb
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 8:09 PM ET #973

    You're gonna kill it in the Knockouts V.  Can't wait to read your write-ups.  Let haters hate.  I think the bulk of us on covers appreciate your perspective overall here....
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    You're gonna kill it in the Knockouts V.  Can't wait to read your write-ups.  Let haters hate.  I think the bulk of us on covers appreciate your perspective overall here....
     
    daytradernation
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 9:03 PM ET #974

    1st off, I may not know a pimples worth on an elephants azzz in soccer compared to you, BUT, that means nada man....

    Its what have you done for me lately, not 2006 or 2010 or 1 day ago, ITS RIGHT NOW!!!! And right now, you have not did well in the WC. Yes, you do have a future bet that pays 2500+, I also have that same bet, so I really hope it wins.....I told ya in the beginning I tailed you blindly cased on the people here who said you were the next coming...........

    Now, I dont usually make my own threads, here and there. I DO count ALL MY LOSSES AND WINS, thats NEVER in doubt my friend.

    I will ask you to a 'friendly' wager, amongst friends!?

    Surely, you will gladly accept this:

    You against little ole me for the remainder of the world cup. 16 matches, one bracket each, mano e' mano, for 2k?

    2k is enough to pay your food bills or car payment for a week one would assume?

    We simply send the money in to a MOD, someone reputable we BOTH feel comfortable with. I will paypal or western union my money right now or as soon as I read this thread.

    I have nothing against you, I really dont. I just like to put my money where my BIG mouth is at times. You say you wager MORE than most and YOUR units are more than most, surely, this 2k wager is like a free lunch? Or at least a future bet for you?

    You're the best soccer capper covers has seen.

    Mods, if this is not allowed, please let me know and feel free to take it down. It's a simple challenge to the man on covers who owns soccer from a loud mouth who knows nada about soccer but I LOVE CHALLENGES! I love having money on the line and seeing people squirm. Maybe you dont squirm, but we shall see. I dont meet many that dont.

    People at the casinos think im crazy when I take 25 dollar green chips and throw them over my shoulder without looking from time to time to see the people run like ants on a friday night scambling for them! I been around and I have PLENTY of money to go with me...

    I will be waiting. Feel free to PM me.


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    1st off, I may not know a pimples worth on an elephants azzz in soccer compared to you, BUT, that means nada man....

    Its what have you done for me lately, not 2006 or 2010 or 1 day ago, ITS RIGHT NOW!!!! And right now, you have not did well in the WC. Yes, you do have a future bet that pays 2500+, I also have that same bet, so I really hope it wins.....I told ya in the beginning I tailed you blindly cased on the people here who said you were the next coming...........

    Now, I dont usually make my own threads, here and there. I DO count ALL MY LOSSES AND WINS, thats NEVER in doubt my friend.

    I will ask you to a 'friendly' wager, amongst friends!?

    Surely, you will gladly accept this:

    You against little ole me for the remainder of the world cup. 16 matches, one bracket each, mano e' mano, for 2k?

    2k is enough to pay your food bills or car payment for a week one would assume?

    We simply send the money in to a MOD, someone reputable we BOTH feel comfortable with. I will paypal or western union my money right now or as soon as I read this thread.

    I have nothing against you, I really dont. I just like to put my money where my BIG mouth is at times. You say you wager MORE than most and YOUR units are more than most, surely, this 2k wager is like a free lunch? Or at least a future bet for you?

    You're the best soccer capper covers has seen.

    Mods, if this is not allowed, please let me know and feel free to take it down. It's a simple challenge to the man on covers who owns soccer from a loud mouth who knows nada about soccer but I LOVE CHALLENGES! I love having money on the line and seeing people squirm. Maybe you dont squirm, but we shall see. I dont meet many that dont.

    People at the casinos think im crazy when I take 25 dollar green chips and throw them over my shoulder without looking from time to time to see the people run like ants on a friday night scambling for them! I been around and I have PLENTY of money to go with me...

    I will be waiting. Feel free to PM me.


     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2014 - 9:11 PM ET #975

    LOL.  This will not end well for you DTN. 
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    LOL.  This will not end well for you DTN. 
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