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I can't believe this price is so high.  If Villa or Scheijder don't score, Muller wins it.  Wow.  +600 for neither men to score.

I am on Villa +800 for the Boot and +200 for Top 4 Finish, but this +600 for Muller has to be taken.  Waaaaay toooo big a price.
 
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make sure you know what your books dead heat rule is
 
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if you bet 100 at +600 to win 600 most shops will divide your original bet by 4 (4 guys tied with 5 goals) so you would really be risking 100 to win 150 that BOTH sneijder and villa dont score
 
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golden boot winner is the winner...
i dont think dead heat rule will apple if, it says who's the golden boot winner... there is only one winner.
 
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most shops have the dead heat rule for these props where it divides HOW MUCH YOU WAGERED by HOW MANY GUYS TIED and the original odds
 
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Mueller has the advantage to win cause he has more asst as well.
 
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There is no dead heat rule as FIFA determines a single winner.

Doesn't matter if they are all tied on 5 goals.

Assists and then least minutes played are the two tie-breakers, all of which Muller wins.
 
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most shops have villa at -160 and sneijder at -450 not to score..... so basically you would be parlaying those two as the same as betting muller +600....those prices dont add up... so obviously they have a dead heat rule
 
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What I don't understand is why books are still offering Forlan as an option?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for him to win the Boot.

Do books even understand how this works?
 
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In a Dead Heat the stake money on a selection is divided by the number of runners involved in the dead heat. The full odds are then paid to the divided stake with the remainder of the wager amount being lost.
 
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probably it should say who's top goalscorer, then dead heat rules apply
 
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Not sure what fruit has to do with this discussion, but the Greek will split the payout among the top goal scorers. Tie breakers are not in play. They are paying high goal scorers, not the Golden Boot.

5D is the same.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

What I don't understand is why books are still offering Forlan as an option?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for him to win the Boot.

Do books even understand how this works?

I thought that's strange as well...my book has him at +700, though there is no chance of him winning since he has less assist that Mueller...unless they do have some sort of dead heat rule, which i never even heard of until now...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

What I don't understand is why books are still offering Forlan as an option?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for him to win the Boot.

Do books even understand how this works?


what shop are you using?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

Not sure what fruit has to do with this discussion, but the Greek will split the payout among the top goal scorers. Tie breakers are not in play. They are paying high goal scorers, not the Golden Boot.

5D is the same.

I have thegreek, and the way to word it is tricky "Top goalscorer to win the golden boot" 
 
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pinny has muller +112 as golden boot winner
dead heat rule dont apply here.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kevinkim:

golden boot winner is the winner...
i dont think dead heat rule will apple if, it says who's the golden boot winner... there is only one winner.

The book i have my bet with for this particular option clearly states dead-heat rules apply. That wouldn't be stated if they were using Fifa's rules to find the 1 clear winner.

You muist find out your individual book's rules, and not assume they're using fifa rules.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by jmitseff:

most shops have villa at -160 and sneijder at -450 not to score..... so basically you would be parlaying those two as the same as betting muller +600....those prices dont add up... so obviously they have a dead heat rule


you betting muller to win is the same as betting sneijder AND villa BOTH not to score -450 and -160 parlayed together roughly gets you 2.1 to 1 on your money NO WAY any sportsbook would give you +600 on something all shops have priced at 2 to 1....so obviously there is a dead heat rule which they would divide your original stake by 4 if all players are still tied after todays game which would  get you 1.5 to 1 on your original wager...it would be more valuable to parlay the 2 not to score at 2.1 to 1 on your money....do you understand?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

What I don't understand is why books are still offering Forlan as an option?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for him to win the Boot.

Do books even understand how this works?


if they still have forlan as an option they probably have the dead heat rule
 
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Bet365 offers


Soccer - Leading Goalscorer


David Villa (Spain)1.80  (-125)
Wesley Sneijder (Holland)3.25  (+225)
Thomas Mueller (Germany)8.50  (+750)
Diego Forlan (Uruguay)8.50  (+750)
Arjen Robben (Holland)151.00  (+15000)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

Not sure what fruit has to do with this discussion, but the Greek will split the payout among the top goal scorers. Tie breakers are not in play. They are paying high goal scorers, not the Golden Boot.

5D is the same.




 
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Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984:

The book i have my bet with for this particular option clearly states dead-heat rules apply. That wouldn't be stated if they were using Fifa's rules to find the 1 clear winner.

You muist find out your individual book's rules, and not assume they're using fifa rules.




 
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Ahh..my post got messed up.


I just want to know what happens if, let's say Villa and Sneijder don't score tonight and we have 4 players with 5 scored goals?

 
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For those on 5dimes... do you feel there is a "good bet" here? 
 
 
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