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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:46 PM ET #976

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:49 PM ET #977

    Thanks all.  Too many to thank individually....

    There are some days that everything not only wins, but goes exactly according to plan - this was one of those lucky rare days when that happens.

    There will be a celebratory bottle of something in the vanzack house tonight.

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    Thanks all.  Too many to thank individually....

    There are some days that everything not only wins, but goes exactly according to plan - this was one of those lucky rare days when that happens.

    There will be a celebratory bottle of something in the vanzack house tonight.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:50 PM ET #978

    Alright - how many goals could Portugal have had today?  Nani missed so many - Ronaldo missed several - and Postiga missed some too.

    I realize the Dutch had some chances too - but Portugal really had so many....

    Crazy.

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    Alright - how many goals could Portugal have had today?  Nani missed so many - Ronaldo missed several - and Postiga missed some too.

    I realize the Dutch had some chances too - but Portugal really had so many....

    Crazy.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #979

    Portugal had too many chances. Ronaldo hit two post. but congrats on the calls!!!......had big $$ on a parlay
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    Portugal had too many chances. Ronaldo hit two post. but congrats on the calls!!!......had big $$ on a parlay
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:53 PM ET #980

    nice job van. 
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:54 PM ET #981

    Nice call . Never a good idea to fade you
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    Nice call . Never a good idea to fade you
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 4:54 PM ET #982

    Well done.
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 5:01 PM ET #983

    Good job
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    Good job
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 5:06 PM ET #984

    thanks van keep up the great work 
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    thanks van keep up the great work 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 5:12 PM ET #985

    Results:
    12 - 3.5 - 2 WLP
    +16.82 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN
    15. Ukr/Fra over 2 -120 3 units - PUSH
    16. Sweden +.5 -130 1 unit - LOSS
    17. Rus/Gre - No bet
    18. Pol/Cze - No bet
    19. Ger/Den over 2.5 -115 for 2 units - WIN
    20. Portugal PK +103 4 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    21. Spain / Croatia:   Croatia played a great second half against Italy.  They made some very subtle adjustments at HT that I only picked up when I watched the replay of the full game - but they effectively took Pirlo out of the midfield by just marking him all over the pitch.  Pirlo was the engine for the Italians in the first half - and the Croatians were able to equalize through his removal.

    But Spain is Spain - and just outclasses Croatia by miles.  As I have discussed here previously (see Spain vs Ireland preview) - I believe that Spain play best when they have BOTH width and depth - apparantly del Bosque agrees with half of me.  He has relented to playing Torres up top - but I do feel like it is still incomplete for them - that they need Navas or dedicated wingers on both sides to give them more width.  Torres did create the space up top which led to them thrashing Ireland - but Croatia is much better on defense than Ireland is - and I just am fearful of the 20 yard Spanish blob again that wants to pass it in the goal.

    But the Spanish will win this game, I started betting it down at -120 and up to -140, and it just ran up to as high as -150.  I still think its good up at those levels.  Im going to post officially at Spain -140 for 2 units.  Most likely result Spain 2-0.

    22.  Ireland / Italy:  This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick.  Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden.  They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games.  Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway.  Ireland will dig in.  Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team.  I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there.  I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit.  Most likely result Italy 1-0.

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    Results:
    12 - 3.5 - 2 WLP
    +16.82 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN
    15. Ukr/Fra over 2 -120 3 units - PUSH
    16. Sweden +.5 -130 1 unit - LOSS
    17. Rus/Gre - No bet
    18. Pol/Cze - No bet
    19. Ger/Den over 2.5 -115 for 2 units - WIN
    20. Portugal PK +103 4 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    21. Spain / Croatia:   Croatia played a great second half against Italy.  They made some very subtle adjustments at HT that I only picked up when I watched the replay of the full game - but they effectively took Pirlo out of the midfield by just marking him all over the pitch.  Pirlo was the engine for the Italians in the first half - and the Croatians were able to equalize through his removal.

    But Spain is Spain - and just outclasses Croatia by miles.  As I have discussed here previously (see Spain vs Ireland preview) - I believe that Spain play best when they have BOTH width and depth - apparantly del Bosque agrees with half of me.  He has relented to playing Torres up top - but I do feel like it is still incomplete for them - that they need Navas or dedicated wingers on both sides to give them more width.  Torres did create the space up top which led to them thrashing Ireland - but Croatia is much better on defense than Ireland is - and I just am fearful of the 20 yard Spanish blob again that wants to pass it in the goal.

    But the Spanish will win this game, I started betting it down at -120 and up to -140, and it just ran up to as high as -150.  I still think its good up at those levels.  Im going to post officially at Spain -140 for 2 units.  Most likely result Spain 2-0.

    22.  Ireland / Italy:  This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick.  Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden.  They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games.  Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway.  Ireland will dig in.  Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team.  I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there.  I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit.  Most likely result Italy 1-0.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 5:33 PM ET #986

    Really great handicapping! It's nice to see hard work pay off! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the games!
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    Really great handicapping! It's nice to see hard work pay off! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the games!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:03 PM ET #987

    Vanzack, why not just play under 2.5 goals in Ireland/Italy match?  I see it at plus money at some sites.  As always, thanks for all your insights.
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    Vanzack, why not just play under 2.5 goals in Ireland/Italy match?  I see it at plus money at some sites.  As always, thanks for all your insights.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:03 PM ET #988

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    22.  Ireland / Italy:  This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick.  Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden.  They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games.  Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway.  Ireland will dig in.  Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team.  I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there.  I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit.  Most likely result Italy 1-0.

    First off, great picks today, was an awesome day!

    About Ireland-Italy, I don't question the fact that the Irish will fight their asses off, they will play for their honour and to pay respect to their fans. But the thing is, it's not like they didn't win because of their lack of motivation, Ireland is a team that is always motivated, they will not come out flat. But they didn't win because they just lack the quality, energy can only do so much, they gave away some huge gaps in defence.

     Also I don't really think the Italy coach will play defensively if Italy manages to get ahead, he'll want a sure lead to avoid a last minute equaliser. Anyways just my 2 cents, BOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    22.  Ireland / Italy:  This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick.  Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden.  They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games.  Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway.  Ireland will dig in.  Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team.  I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there.  I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit.  Most likely result Italy 1-0.

    First off, great picks today, was an awesome day!

    About Ireland-Italy, I don't question the fact that the Irish will fight their asses off, they will play for their honour and to pay respect to their fans. But the thing is, it's not like they didn't win because of their lack of motivation, Ireland is a team that is always motivated, they will not come out flat. But they didn't win because they just lack the quality, energy can only do so much, they gave away some huge gaps in defence.

     Also I don't really think the Italy coach will play defensively if Italy manages to get ahead, he'll want a sure lead to avoid a last minute equaliser. Anyways just my 2 cents, BOL.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:09 PM ET #989

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    Surely you must've seen Welbeck's backheel.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    Surely you must've seen Welbeck's backheel.



     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:17 PM ET #990

    Van - any value in playing "italy to advance"?
    I see it around -140

    With your thoughts on Spain & Italy above, seems like this is a decent way to play it.


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    Van - any value in playing "italy to advance"?
    I see it around -140

    With your thoughts on Spain & Italy above, seems like this is a decent way to play it.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:39 PM ET #991

    Here is my Germany / Greece preview...

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 6:44 PM ET #992

    Great Match betting Van.....

    I hope your fading England futures don't bite you

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    Great Match betting Van.....

    I hope your fading England futures don't bite you

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #993

    I just wanted to be the 1000th post in this thread!

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #994

    1000

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:02 PM ET #995

    Results:
    12 - 3.5 - 2 WLP
    +16.82 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN
    15. Ukr/Fra over 2 -120 3 units - PUSH
    16. Sweden +.5 -130 1 unit - LOSS
    17. Rus/Gre - No bet
    18. Pol/Cze - No bet
    19. Ger/Den over 2.5 -115 for 2 units - WIN
    20. Portugal PK +103 4 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    21. Spain / Croatia: Croatia played a great second half against Italy. They made some very subtle adjustments at HT that I only picked up when I watched the replay of the full game - but they effectively took Pirlo out of the midfield by just marking him all over the pitch. Pirlo was the engine for the Italians in the first half - and the Croatians were able to equalize through his removal.

    But Spain is Spain - and just outclasses Croatia by miles. As I have discussed here previously (see Spain vs Ireland preview) - I believe that Spain play best when they have BOTH width and depth - apparantly del Bosque agrees with half of me. He has relented to playing Torres up top - but I do feel like it is still incomplete for them - that they need Navas or dedicated wingers on both sides to give them more width. Torres did create the space up top which led to them thrashing Ireland - but Croatia is much better on defense than Ireland is - and I just am fearful of the 20 yard Spanish blob again that wants to pass it in the goal.

    But the Spanish will win this game, I started betting it down at -120 and up to -140, and it just ran up to as high as -150. I still think its good up at those levels. Im going to post officially at Spain -140 for 2 units. Most likely result Spain 2-0.

    22. Ireland / Italy: This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick. Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden. They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games. Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway. Ireland will dig in. Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team. I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there. I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit. Most likely result Italy 1-0.

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    Results:
    12 - 3.5 - 2 WLP
    +16.82 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN
    15. Ukr/Fra over 2 -120 3 units - PUSH
    16. Sweden +.5 -130 1 unit - LOSS
    17. Rus/Gre - No bet
    18. Pol/Cze - No bet
    19. Ger/Den over 2.5 -115 for 2 units - WIN
    20. Portugal PK +103 4 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    21. Spain / Croatia: Croatia played a great second half against Italy. They made some very subtle adjustments at HT that I only picked up when I watched the replay of the full game - but they effectively took Pirlo out of the midfield by just marking him all over the pitch. Pirlo was the engine for the Italians in the first half - and the Croatians were able to equalize through his removal.

    But Spain is Spain - and just outclasses Croatia by miles. As I have discussed here previously (see Spain vs Ireland preview) - I believe that Spain play best when they have BOTH width and depth - apparantly del Bosque agrees with half of me. He has relented to playing Torres up top - but I do feel like it is still incomplete for them - that they need Navas or dedicated wingers on both sides to give them more width. Torres did create the space up top which led to them thrashing Ireland - but Croatia is much better on defense than Ireland is - and I just am fearful of the 20 yard Spanish blob again that wants to pass it in the goal.

    But the Spanish will win this game, I started betting it down at -120 and up to -140, and it just ran up to as high as -150. I still think its good up at those levels. Im going to post officially at Spain -140 for 2 units. Most likely result Spain 2-0.

    22. Ireland / Italy: This is not going to be a very technical writeup - as I dont have many technical reasons for this pick. Ireland is something unique - they are not the Dutch and they are not Sweden. They will play as hard - if not harder - than they did in their first two games. Make no mistake - if Ireland pull off a draw here - there will be a celebration.

    I love what Robbie Keane said the other day when asked about Irelands "disappointing" tournament so far - he basically said that sometimes you have to admit that other teams are more talented - but you fight on anyway. Ireland will dig in. Yes - we all know their players are not up to scratch - but they will not give up even down a goal.

    Italy is not a multi-goal winning type of team. I can just see if they get up by a goal - just parking the bus by moving the 2 "wing" fullbacks back to the back and playing a 5 man line back there. I do think Spain will be winning their game - which will allow Italy to protect their lead without getting too adventurous.

    So I am going to be on Ireland +1.5 -115 for 1 unit. Most likely result Italy 1-0.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #996

    Nice call on the games today Van. 



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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #997

    Spain / Croatia - hmm.. good tip over 2.5 @ 1.75
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #998

    I like Ireland to nick a draw tomorrow at +500


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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 7:22 PM ET #999

    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    1000

     

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 11:17 PM ET #1000

    great fucking portugal game today  
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