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Mamba_24

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2012 - 10:00 PM ET #901

If you are a fan of trends, Portugal has been the absolute worst matchup for Holland in history, they have only won 10 percent vs Portugal. If you look at recent history they've had their number on every single big occasion, quarters 2004 and 1/8th finals in 2006 if I remember correctly. They just have a style of play that troubles the Dutch, they aren't hesitant to make some dirty fouls, just fysically dominating Oranje. Hope to see that happen tomorrow.

Kangstaa420

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2012 - 10:18 PM ET #902

Any thoughts on the o/u for the Portugal game...

DaGmen

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2012 - 10:19 PM ET #903

I hope ronaldo shows up tomorrow

nepatriots_12

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2012 - 10:39 PM ET #904

Quote Originally Posted by Kangstaa420:

Any thoughts on the o/u for the Portugal game...

he has his projection at 2-1 and the total is 2.5/3...do the math

nice job so far Van, like the Portugal play tomorrow. Lean over in Germany also but think playing the Germans is the safer play.

bbkdta

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2012 - 10:48 PM ET #905

Van, if Barzagli back in Italy' lineup, they have chance to win it all (if Spain and Croatia didnt play out 2-2 draw)

chelseafan1

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 1:45 AM ET #906

smart choice staying out of Gre vs Rus and Czec vs Pol ..good luck tomorrow

whitesnake1983

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 9:01 AM ET #907

I don't really think that Portugal can beat holland..I didn't really thought that Denmark could beat Holland, but here we are...So anything can happen and I think I am going to go with the 2 overs tonight...Also will try a little combo on Holland to win & over 2.5 and Germany to win and over 2.5...As well as 1st goalscorer - Van Persie and Bastian Schweinsteiger...I have a feeling that there will be penalties tonight - just one penalty since the start of the Championship...That's way too low! But still think that Holland will go out as 2nd in that group and considering they will play the Czechs - the way is all open for them.

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 9:04 AM ET #908

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 10:56 AM ET #909

Happy Fathers Day to all dads out there.

Just remember to mention that you want a Portugal victory for fathers day.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 10:56 AM ET #910

Quote Originally Posted by eyemtlaw:

I know nothing about soccer and appreciate the insight and am learning little by little.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 10:57 AM ET #911

Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

VAN. I just want to commend you on creating, maintaining, and updating one of the very BEST, informative threads in my short history of 3 years here on COVERS

You offer picks, analysis and opinions why you would take a certain side

I don't think I ever remember seeing such an informative thread here

At last but not least, I was so happy that Czeck defender got back there and headed away that last Polish shot

Do you ever remember a SOCCER match that finished with that golden of a scoring opportunity

Thanks. Yes - that Czech ending was crazy. If that goes in Russia wins the group and Greece are out. Greece should make that Czech guy a citizen (not that anyone would really want Greek citizenship, but just sayin)

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #912

Quote Originally Posted by Mamba_24:

I agree with you that Italy gave up some costly interceptions against Spain, but I do believe the factor Torres had more to do with it. Before he came on they had a pretty solid lid on the defence, but when Torres came on he showed us the weakness of the Italy defense. They can't cope with pure pace and agility. And against Croatia I didn't see a lot of chances for Croatia of those turnovers. They scored when Chiellini was caught positionally moronic and had some long distance shots.

About the 3-5-2 formation, I actually thought they would only play it against Spain, because it makes a lot of sense to get an extra defender behind two central defenders to cope with the through balls and general centrefield play of the Spanish while also creating spaces where Spain is vulnerable, in the corners. I didn't see a lot of use for it against Croatia, where they would have been better off in my opinion playing 4-4-2 with De Rossi playing on Modric.

You do have a point that with this formation against good teams they can get caught out on the wingback positions, but Motta should do a better job cleaning those holes.

BTW I loooooove your analysis on the Holland game and am also heavily leaning Germany over. You bring a lot of very insightful stuff to the forum and back up your picks with solid analysis, great job man.

Now lets get that dough with Portugaaaaal

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #913

Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

he has his projection at 2-1 and the total is 2.5/3...do the math

nice job so far Van, like the Portugal play tomorrow. Lean over in Germany also but think playing the Germans is the safer play.

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ZonaCats

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 11:28 AM ET #914

Despite what Loew is spouting, Germany knows a draw wins the group (and avoids Spain's side of the bracket). Can't see them wanting to push for a win with 30min left in the game.

HoundsBlood

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 11:47 AM ET #915

Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

VAN. I just want to commend you on creating, maintaining, and updating one of the very BEST, informative threads in my short history of 3 years here on COVERS

You offer picks, analysis and opinions why you would take a certain side

I don't think I ever remember seeing such an informative thread here

At last but not least, I was so happy that Czeck defender got back there and headed away that last Polish shot

Do you ever remember a SOCCER match that finished with that golden of a scoring opportunity

same.... well said--

weeble5672

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 11:59 AM ET #916

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Happy Fathers Day to all dads out there.

Just remember to mention that you want a Portugal victory for fathers day.

What about those of us fathers who are Dutch and OUR fathers are Dutch?

PatrickBateman

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #917

Hey Vanzack, thanks for all that you do buddy, very informative stuff. Just one question, wouldn't Germany be playing just for the tie today? What are the scenarious in this group exactly? I ask because it seems like if this were the case, the under at +110 looks pretty good to me. Only play I have not agreed with you on so far, so I am just wondering if I am not understanding the situation correctly.

EddieGordo

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 1:18 PM ET #918

Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:

Bro go suck a dick your so unlucky it's stupid

Lol are you fucking kidding me?

Because I made a joking comment to Van about celebrating a Russia win (which was a total joke, it has nothing to do with actually celebrating a win, just me and Van have a lot of posting history between us so I was having some fun with him) and then they proceeded to lose I'm "So unlucky it's stupid".

Dude believe whatever you want, but you're the one in here tailing Vanzack like the rest of us. Guarantee you Van would laugh his ass off at your stupid "One guy's posts caused us to lose the games" brilliant theories.

Again I will repeat.....if you are so caught up in jinxes and shit like that, this is not the hobby for you. You actually blame someone elses posts for your gambling losses?

How fucking sad that you're so far removed from being a real man....

EddieGordo

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 1:28 PM ET #919

Van sorry to bring that BS into your thread.

Just find it kind of hilarious that me posting some dumb joke about celebrating a winning bet is to blame for that game not ending as we would have liked.

For that guy to call me out like that (granted he doesn't know our posting history and that we are cool and that you're Ok with me making some dumb silly posts in your thread) is the equivalent of someone posting "Congrats Miami Backers" after the Heat take a 18-9 lead in the first quarter. Just shows such a novice level of understanding.......Also the guy is displaying some quasi-wannnabe mod hall monitor tendencies, so sorry had to reply.

I'm on the Dutch personally today, I think back to the wall they figure out a way to get a W, but I'm prob off.

Good luck Van, I actually sprinkled a bit on Czech +6500 berfore the tourny to win it all, so that could be fun!

BOLIonthestreet

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 1:28 PM ET #920

nice postings, brah.

DaGmen

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #921

In Van I trust!

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:15 PM ET #922

Quote Originally Posted by EddieGordo:

Van sorry to bring that BS into your thread.

Just find it kind of hilarious that me posting some dumb joke about celebrating a winning bet is to blame for that game not ending as we would have liked.

For that guy to call me out like that (granted he doesn't know our posting history and that we are cool and that you're Ok with me making some dumb silly posts in your thread) is the equivalent of someone posting "Congrats Miami Backers" after the Heat take a 18-9 lead in the first quarter. Just shows such a novice level of understanding.......Also the guy is displaying some quasi-wannnabe mod hall monitor tendencies, so sorry had to reply.

I'm on the Dutch personally today, I think back to the wall they figure out a way to get a W, but I'm prob off.

Good luck Van, I actually sprinkled a bit on Czech +6500 berfore the tourny to win it all, so that could be fun!

No problems. Anyone who can control final scores from the comfort of their living room need to be on my payroll - so if you hear of one - let me know.

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dogcity

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:17 PM ET #923

What is everyone's opinion on Ronaldo to score any time. +163?

I think he will bag at least one day. The Dutch D is terrible. And him on the counter attack vs that Willems dude for Holland.. disaster.

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:17 PM ET #924

The draw line in the Netherlands Portugal game is insane. +285 when the win on either side is +155 and +175.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #925

Quote Originally Posted by dogcity:

What is everyone's opinion on Ronaldo to score any time. +163?

I think he will bag at least one day. The Dutch D is terrible. And him on the counter attack vs that Willems dude for Holland.. disaster.

I really see Ronaldo exploding today. He should have tons of chances today - and the type of chances he likes - one on one stepover blasts.

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