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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:47 AM ET #726

Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

Your passion and love for soccer is infectious and your insights and conversations are greatly appreciated. I look forward to many future major soccer events,,, I've got the bug

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:49 AM ET #727

Quote Originally Posted by MWdePro:

My opinion on Fridays game, not like you asked or care,

France - Ukraine analysis spot on love it and im gonna take half the money I was put on England and put it on this game.

I think Englands strategy was to hold the fort and steal a quality point from the group favorites and I dont think any other team in the group will. Nasri and Benzema will be set loose, look out. England think they have the advantage getting the point from France and will look to attack Ukraine and Sweden. Sweden are dangerous but I think the French attack is better and they couldnt win. I think England will dominate the game and win with the speedy wingers feeding Welbeck and Lampard in the middle. 2-0 England. The draw with France settled the nerves and I look for England to push forward through the holes in the Swedish defense.

just my opinion, Vans the man no doubt in my mind. I usually hit the plays we agree on hard and take it easy on the ones we dont because Vans the man. I just dont see England coming out in that formation or mindset they had with France. Ukraine beat Sweden 3-1...If England cant beat Sweden they dont stand a chance beating the Ukraine which means they are out.

I respect Vans picks alot and since he belive it will end in a draw or Sweden, then I will cut my wager on England in half and thank him later I guess. Good luck to all. Feel free to point and laugh now or after the game plays out just like Van said.

GL MW. Lampard is injured BTW.

I am thinking about adding on to my Sweden bet - I hear that England will be starting Carroll in addition to Wellbeck and Young. That sounds like an offensive setup - so I will like Swedens chances.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:49 AM ET #728

Quote Originally Posted by SeaVike:

You can always watch the games on espn.com. They have a great app as well WatchEspn.

Van, been reading you for many years now. Great stuff as always my friend.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:50 AM ET #729

Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

Vanzack, can I get your early thoughts on Netherlands pk -110? See this as insane value based on a couple of uninspiring performances.

The more I think about it - the more I am thinking that the Netherlands are in trouble.... But will comment in full soon.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:51 AM ET #730

Quote Originally Posted by FadeMeSucka:

Let me thank you again for your advice----your sentence at the end--"At 1, you lose more. At 3, you win less."---simplifies things. I only will have made a good bet if the total is exactly 2 goals. This is a fascinating tournament!

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Up to date on Mad Men - wasnt thrilled with this season. But BB starts soon. Love the promo and the poster of Walt sitting around cash with "Hail the new King" - love it.

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:52 AM ET #731

Quote Originally Posted by GreekHotLover:

Not strange at all, only few books offer the exact score 2-2 for the game Spain-Croatia, and that at ridiculous odds. By 2-2 both teams advance to the next round.

I dont buy in to this stuff. History has shown that this is way too difficult to orchestrate.

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bbkdta

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 11:53 AM ET #732

Spain has too much pedigree to drew 2-2, if its really going to be a draw, mostly likely its 1-1

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:01 PM ET #733

@vanzack

agree

Spain will not risk its fame

Great job from you dude

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:02 PM ET #734

Fuck this rain. I dont mind some, but dont need a downpour.

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:03 PM ET #735

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I dont buy in to this stuff. History has shown that this is way too difficult to orchestrate.

Generally I agree with you but I remember the Euro 2004 in Portugal where Sweden and Denmark drew 2-2 and in this way went on from the group stage, kicking out the Italian in the process.

I remember it well, I was in the stadium... and let me tell you, that match smelled fishy as hell!!

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:03 PM ET #736

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Fuck this rain. I dont mind some, but dont need a downpour.

Agreed

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:05 PM ET #737

my god... it really is raining hu?

I hope they are handing out lifesavers soon...

EDIT: as I type, the ref stops play!!

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:06 PM ET #738

Suspend this shit. Lets play tomorrow. The noon slot is open tomorrow, just play then.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:08 PM ET #739

Quote Originally Posted by Bepster:

Generally I agree with you but I remember the Euro 2004 in Portugal where Sweden and Denmark drew 2-2 and in this way went on from the group stage, kicking out the Italian in the process.

I remember it well, I was in the stadium... and let me tell you, that match smelled fishy as hell!!

On the other hand - there have been dozens of similar situations before and after that game where the expected result did not happen. Last WC - there was a draw that benefitted both teams (I think it involved Uruguay) where the line got as low as +120 on the draw before the game. The result was no draw.

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MaineRoad

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:12 PM ET #740

I thought I jsut had a bad computer feed. Didn't realize I couldn't see through the rain.

Will this have any impact on the start of the Sweden game?

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:12 PM ET #741

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Suspend this shit. Lets play tomorrow. The noon slot is open tomorrow, just play then.

Will Pinny keep the bets oustanding until the game is played or refund and make you bet again? The line has moved a lot since the open so it would cost a lot more to bet over 2 if having to do it again...

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:20 PM ET #742

vanzack -

New to soccer betting but respect what you do... any historical points you can take from a pre-match huge storm in terms of o/u bets or pace of play? Can anything be suspected about the match if it were to be played after the lightning stops?

Thanks